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Hello all Btctalkians....

I just started focusing to rank up in this forum by contributing with full afford.Recenty I focused that to rank up in Bitcointalk we should not go for Bounties.As many high ranked users are not so eager to send merits to the bounty hunters.And it's true that's why I am stopping from joining Bounties. And I am eagerly trying to be active in this forum to help others and to make a positive profile to other users.

I hope I am not wrong.

Bounties should be excluded from everything, with merit disabled and the count of the posts should not increase. You are not wrong. :)

Thanks Dear. Actually I am following high ranked users in this forum and they are often saying that they aren't eager to send merits who is active bounty hunter.Thats why I made this decision.They also saying to contribute in this forum without running for merits.That touched me much.

Depending on your skillset, you have many options. e.g. starting your own informative thread about something, contributing to a big thread such as this one (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1631151.msg16405643#msg16405643) (mine), or provide a service. Keep in mind that some members will require extensive contributions before rewarding any merit (e.g. my linked thread), while others may even reward you for witty jokes. Important point is not to attack them for not sending merit if they choose not to.

I would like to go for both options as I have to learn from others then I will share with others creating new topic.So both options are important to me.And one more thing a good contributor should be active widely.

Why don't you just do it, and do the best for us here, something joking.

How many times do you have to nag like this: Help Need About Getting merit how I can get merit easily (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5237082.msg54154650#msg54154650),  and say the same thing;

People who do things rarely talk, people who talk a lot, habits a lot of bullshit.
More words than his actions, if you want to do something useful for the community and the Bitcointalk Forum, instead of sympathy and grumbling, do something that benefits you.

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New, the first time I saw @Lauda called 'dear'.

Am I missing something! I see lots of high rank members on bounty and still getting merit for their post or thread, like the above thread shared by Lauda, I saw many members merited the thread because of the good work and effort put on bringing those information together,

what I see in earning merit is be contributive to the community in a positive way, even if you wear a signature doing so, those who find your contribution helpful and useful will merit you. And avoid spamming and put an effort in your post.

Merit has nothing to do with being in a bounty campaign or not; it's all about quality posting. Being a quality poster, and participating in a campaign is not incompatible; but as a general rule, ALTCOIN bounty hunters don't care about anything that is not realted to payday, and thus, don't create quality content.

You have to know your priorities; forum over payday, or payday over forum?

The first group will contribute to the forum even if they are not getting paid to do so; and because of that, they tend to be "good users", there are exceptions of course.
The second group will not contribute if they are not getting paid, or will contribute a lot less if they not getting paid. That leads to them being "bad users", with some few exceptions.

Of course the terms "good" and "bad" are very subjective.

Basically, the reasons to earn merits are about:
- Quality post
- Informative post
- Useful post
- Helpful post

Joining a bounty isn't prohibited. But as you are still in a lower rank, it is better to focus on learning everything. Well, I don't underestimate lower ranks (brand new, newbie, Jr), it is not a measure of someone's insight/knowledge. A lower rank may have better knowledge than a higher rank. However, we must know when we have to focus on a more important thing. If you prioritize earning money, then please follow bounties. But if you prioritize "rank up", you are better to focus on: (1.) improving your knowledge, (2.) make more quality posts, (3.) do more contributions such as report spams, scams, merit abuser, etc.

Note:
>Keep making posts like this one: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5246044.msg54367659#msg54367659
>Keep contribution like this one: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5246798.msg54385826#msg54385826

This is very common among speakers from the subcontinent, especially India. You will see people sending DMs to each other with this opening. "Hello Dear". I have heard it most commonly from older employees in Govt organizations using it for younger colleagues. This has become kindda colloquial and i personally (and hopefully others) find it pretty creepy.

Old uncles with their "Hello Dear" to young women on the internet is the typical image that comes to mind. I actively discourage this usage as it seems to have evolved from creepy conversations in yahoo chat rooms, at best. To the OP, I'd suggest to give up on the "Hello Dear". "Dear" as a salutation should be reserved for people you know personally like a "Dear Friend" or your "Near and Dear ones". Its typically for family and friends close to your heart.

Ranking up in the forum is pretty much a direct result of your actual effort and actual engagement. If you are actually doing something in getting technically more adept at bitcoin or if you try to get to understand the social and economic issues around privacy and non-inflationary money, it'll slowly reflect through your conversation and people will merit them.

It all depends on how good your posts are. There are a lot of quality posters yet join bounty programs. It's just a matter of both choice and hard-work depending upon what would you do to be a well-knowledgeable person and a kind contributor in the forum. Joining bounties and campaigns are just choices and wouldn't affect anything on how you would be a good contributor and a merit-worth user.

Paying your attention on ranking up will put you under a pressure. So you should not do this. Instead, simply improve yourself, and try to lift your goals (with your posts', thread's quality) up as much as possible day-by-day. Ranking up will be a consequence of your improvements. It is kinda achievement.
You can join bounties, because they are allowed on the forum. But you will waste your time and maybe you will fall into support for scam projects (at beginnings, you do it because of your lack of knowledge & experience, but over time you might change and turn to be a scammer). What you usually do everyday will define who you are. It's the point I want to say. Think twice before you decide to join bounties.

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There are some stories for you:

• Inspirational stories from self-made promoted users (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5100307.0)
• Promotion with merit system and new rank requirements. It's possible. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5121906.0) (me)
• I am on the way to Legendary rank, after 2 years (only lack of activities) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5169623.0) (me)

In [2] I wrote that section months ago. There are also some great tutorials for newbies inside that thread.

You don't need to tell me, tell it to the op because that's his opinion, maybe you should scroll up and read his beginning post to understand why I have to reply with my post.

Basically, because my finger slipped when clicking the quote button

If by Bounties you mean the Bounty Campaigns from the Altcoin Section then you are right. A user participating in any of them is 99.9% a shitposter who doesn't even know what to write and what is a good thread to post in, but they just post anything nonsensical in any useless megathread only to increase their post count and get paid by the bounty campaign manager.
Otherwise, the campaigns that pay in Bitcoin are not always that bad. Even the most reputed members of the forum join signature campaigns that pay in Bitcoin and there is no harm in that as long as you are regularly posting in a constructive manner.

Note: You won't get a slot in a signature campaign anyway, if you are not a good poster.

OP, You don't have to create a thread claiming that you are going to stop bounty hunting and planning to contribute to the forum. All you have to do is learn something from the forum and share your thoughts. I don't know why but when I read your post all I could feel was that you are looking for a way to improve your bounty rewards. Anyways good luck

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Bro, I don't know from where you heard such a thing, but I am a TN State Govt employee and I have never seen any of my old superiors/seniors calling any of their subordinates as "Dear". Apart from that point what you said is true.

You really encouraged me a lot and thanks for your inspiration.Actually I should follow your tips and should go ahead by helping others.
Thanks again for your compliments.

I was looking forward to see someone saying this, when I first came into Bitcointalk back in 2017. My first question was how to join in BOUNTY and make money out and what the higher ranked members say to me is to contribute to the forum and meet up the Jr. member rank there i can join BOUNTY so doing BOUNTY and as well contributing to the growth of Bitcointalk and the community is definitely not wrong.

Thank you for writing that, because I've gotten the same feeling every time someone uses that term "dear" in a casual context.

As far as this topic goes, it might very well be true that there's some discrimination against bounty participants when it comes to merit-giving.  Personally, it makes absolutely zero difference to me whether someone's in a bounty or not when I'm judging a post.  I've got my settings set such that avatars and signatures aren't displayed, so unless there's a personal message text with advertising in it, I wouldn't necessarily know who's doing what.  Nor do I care.  If a bounty hunter makes a post that I find to be interesting, funny, or looks to have some thought and effort put into it, I'll give it some merit.

That's just me, though.  I still have high standards as far as how good a post has to be before I merit it, but whether a member is in a bounty or sig campaign doesn't factor into the equation.

Don't worry, man
The best signatures are for the gang only
Even if you labor for years, this will be the result

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5247453.0

Being on a bounty by itself can not prevent members from meriting your posts if they are quality contents. But having to meet up with a bounty post requirements, especially when it is a very tasking one can reduce the quality of your posts and reduce your merit earned. Especially when you are a newbie and contribute to discussions you know little about just to meet up the weekly quota.

There are so many guidelines that are being dished out to newbies.
Just treat the forum like a normal discussion platform and have an interest in learning about Bitcoin. Do not see it as a job or a task to accomplish, i.e reaching a certain rank to earn.
Post naturally and read often.

Well, if most of your posts will be bounty reports, it's not likely that you will get merit. First, because forum users don't read posts in bounty board and not looking for posts to merit there. Second, there is no reason to give merit to users who came here just for bounties. They just don't give any value to this forum and they didn't made any merit worthy posts.
But I don't agree that bounty hunter can't get merits and rank up. You can participate in bounties and at the same make good posts, contribute to forum. People don't check posting history before giving merit. If you will make merit worthy post, I doubt that someone will check your post history and say "Oh shit, he is bounty hunter, I shouldn't give him merit".

It seems that most of the bounty hunters have alts that they are using to earn more coins because of their greed, there are 2 kinds of people who join and posting in this forum. The first is the people who often creates good quality posts because it makes them happy and they are focusing to contribute information in the forum, the other is the people who are just a bounty hunter who do shit posting for some money and satoshi. For me getting merit is privilege, that is why we should only give it to those people who are creating good quality posts and to those worthy of having a merit.

I have been wearing bounties since my newbie days (yes, there was a bounty which accepted newbie, however I didn't get payout because it was a failure). As when merit system was implemented I was already a full member I got airdrop of 100 merits and 78 that you see are earned afterwards. I don't think wearing bounty signatures has to do anything with merit sending.

I don't think people should discriminate against bounty hunters either. We have enough racism on the planet.

I think ranking up just for the sole purpose of ranking up should be discouraged in general. A lot of bad posting comes from that. You can focus on being a more productive member of the forum community which is something that people should strive to do. And even if you take up bounties, I can't believe that having a certain posting quota to meet should immediately make one a bad poster. If someone chooses to give a little more thought and time to their posts, they can find something nice to write.

You are not wrong and not right either. It's your own perspective so I respect it :D. In my opinion, bounties or signature campaigns got nothing to do with your rank development. Actually there are so many living proofs out here that ranked up (few got overflowing merits and just wait for the right amount of activity) despite of joining campaigns. Therefore, it is not the main cause if you noticed that you remain stucked on where you are because everything depends on how good you are. Quality of your post is the only basis, nothing more and nothing less.