Title: Mt.Gox "finds 200K BTC in old wallets" Post by: Tugbit on March 21, 2014, 11:29:40 AM https://www.mtgox.com/img/pdf/20140320-btc-announce.pdf
http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/942/Economie/article/detail/1825128/2014/03/21/Mt-Gox-vindt-voor-86-miljoen-euro-aan-bitcoins-in-oude-portemonnees.dhtml (Dutch) Title: Re: Mt.Gox "finds 200K BTC in old wallets" Post by: anu on March 21, 2014, 11:32:11 AM https://www.mtgox.com/img/pdf/20140320-btc-announce.pdf http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/942/Economie/article/detail/1825128/2014/03/21/Mt-Gox-vindt-voor-86-miljoen-euro-aan-bitcoins-in-oude-portemonnees.dhtml (Dutch) Don't post such things - any news of MtGox results in an instant flash crash ??? Title: Re: Mt.Gox "finds 200K BTC in old wallets" Post by: Tugbit on March 21, 2014, 11:39:11 AM Sorry, didn't know that the M-word was taboo :)
Title: Re: Mt.Gox "finds 200K BTC in old wallets" Post by: anu on March 21, 2014, 11:41:55 AM Sorry, didn't know that the M-word was taboo :) Absolutely. Just imagine what will happen should the Exchange Which Must Not Be Named returns all deposits?! The mother of all crashes. Title: Re: Mt.Gox "finds 200K BTC in old wallets" Post by: nick32768 on March 21, 2014, 11:47:09 AM The mother of all crashes. I'm waiting for it. In 3 days the Aurora Coins will go live and then we will see its real value... near zero ? Nick. Title: Re: Mt.Gox "finds 200K BTC in old wallets" Post by: UnDerDoG81 on March 21, 2014, 11:52:36 AM I was wondering that there is no thread about this topic here. Have read it in the german news 3 hrs ago. On golem.de or heise.de you can almost read weekly something new about Bitcoins. I count this as a good sign that Bitcoin will go mainstream soon.
Title: Re: Mt.Gox "finds 200K BTC in old wallets" Post by: 600watt on March 21, 2014, 12:16:53 PM I was wondering that there is no thread about this topic here. Have read it in the german news 3 hrs ago. On golem.de or heise.de you can almost read weekly something new about Bitcoins. I count this as a good sign that Bitcoin will go mainstream soon. you are right. mainstream media is writing about bitcoin everyday in germany. just google bitcoin in the news section. back to topic: it is a b s o l u t e l y impossible to understand how 200 000 coins can get "lost" unnoticed. maybe the authorities found some of the coins mk tried to steal and the "uups they were lost" story is a cover-up ??? Title: Re: Mt.Gox "finds 200K BTC in old wallets" Post by: sgbett on March 21, 2014, 12:18:59 PM Interesting, could mean a return of 0.11-0.23BTC on the goxcoin. Depending on how fat the lawyers cut is ;)
Title: Re: Mt.Gox "finds 200K BTC in old wallets" Post by: alexeft on March 21, 2014, 01:07:12 PM https://www.mtgox.com/img/pdf/20140320-btc-announce.pdf http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/942/Economie/article/detail/1825128/2014/03/21/Mt-Gox-vindt-voor-86-miljoen-euro-aan-bitcoins-in-oude-portemonnees.dhtml (Dutch) He "lost" them??????? :D Title: Re: Mt.Gox "finds 200K BTC in old wallets" Post by: Asrael999 on March 21, 2014, 01:11:42 PM I was wondering that there is no thread about this topic here. Have read it in the german news 3 hrs ago. On golem.de or heise.de you can almost read weekly something new about Bitcoins. I count this as a good sign that Bitcoin will go mainstream soon. you are right. mainstream media is writing about bitcoin everyday in germany. just google bitcoin in the news section. back to topic: it is a b s o l u t e l y impossible to understand how 200 000 coins can get "lost" unnoticed. maybe the authorities found some of the coins mk tried to steal and the "uups they were lost" story is a cover-up ??? articles in The Economist on bitcoin as well this week. Title: Re: Mt.Gox "finds 200K BTC in old wallets" Post by: piramida on March 21, 2014, 02:08:08 PM back to topic: it is a b s o l u t e l y impossible to understand how 200 000 coins can get "lost" unnoticed. maybe the authorities found some of the coins mk tried to steal and the "uups they were lost" story is a cover-up ??? Yep that looks like it. Either that, or he is a careless moron of cosmic proportions. I'd go with "tried to steal but got caught by the hand", though. To still have faith in humanity :) However that still makes him a moron, as he should have waited for several years. But that's on understandable scale of stupidity. Other way, someone who runs a largest exchange but does not know balance of their own address which has 10% of all bitcoins ever mined at that point in time, and never in 4 years recalls where that coins went to, that would be just a ridiculous assumption, which would explain alot of unexplainable things in the whole MtGox situation, but raise much more questions. Like, how he managed to not forget how to breathe for so long. Title: Re: Mt.Gox "finds 200K BTC in old wallets" Post by: masterluc on March 21, 2014, 02:17:30 PM This reminds me wall street head lines
Oil, natural gas prices fall as supply reports spur worries over demand Oil Futures Sag on Plentiful Supplies ...etc ;D Title: Re: Mt.Gox "finds 200K BTC in old wallets" Post by: bennybong on March 21, 2014, 02:57:26 PM It's too be expected but that new statement is just such bollocks!
Quote MtGox Co., Ltd. had certain oldformat wallets which were used in the past and which, MtGox thought, no longer held any bitcoins. We're talking 200,000BTC here.... No way you can just forget about them/lose them/assume they're not there. Mark is just realsing that he cannot keep this bullshit up, there's no fooling the btc community.... the media maybe, but not us.... so he's forfeitng some of his booty to keep the authorities happy. Now he just has to 'find' the rest. These btc /should/ legally belong to us customers... Will we ever see any them again? That's the BTC750,000 question. Title: Re: Mt.Gox "finds 200K BTC in old wallets" Post by: piramida on March 21, 2014, 03:04:55 PM Mark is just realsing that he cannot keep this bullshit up, there's no fooling the btc community.... the media maybe, but not us.... so he's forfeitng some of his booty to keep the authorities happy. Now he just has to 'find' the rest. I sometimes wish we were still in medieval times. Such problems were easily solved in minutes back then with some fire and metal sticks. Refreshes memory better than any amount of lawsuits. Title: Re: Mt.Gox "finds 200K BTC in old wallets" Post by: bennybong on March 21, 2014, 03:24:38 PM Mark is just realsing that he cannot keep this bullshit up, there's no fooling the btc community.... the media maybe, but not us.... so he's forfeitng some of his booty to keep the authorities happy. Now he just has to 'find' the rest. I sometimes wish we were still in medieval times. Such problems were easily solved in minutes back then with some fire and metal sticks. Refreshes memory better than any amount of lawsuits. Send him to the Tower of London! I'm 5 minutes away from there and would be happy to 'extract' my bitcoins from him! ;) Title: Re: Mt.Gox "finds 200K BTC in old wallets" Post by: Roccker on March 21, 2014, 03:36:44 PM 850 000 bc lost
Now 200 000 bc found again So every costumer gets about 1/4th of his bitcoins back? Title: Re: Mt.Gox "finds 200K BTC in old wallets" Post by: DubFX on March 21, 2014, 03:41:20 PM The mother of all crashes. I'm waiting for it. In 3 days the Aurora Coins will go live and then we will see its real value... near zero ? Nick. Also abut this gox...just rofl i'm glad i never invested into them. Title: Re: Mt.Gox "finds 200K BTC in old wallets" Post by: Predatorian on March 21, 2014, 04:01:07 PM 850 000 bc lost Now 200 000 bc found again So every costumer gets about 1/4th of his bitcoins back? Would be really nice if that gonna be happen, but who knows which part of stolen btc they ''found''. Good luck for all people who lost Bitcoin in gox. Title: Re: Mt.Gox "finds 200K BTC in old wallets" Post by: DubFX on March 21, 2014, 04:07:52 PM 850 000 bc lost Now 200 000 bc found again So every costumer gets about 1/4th of his bitcoins back? Would be really nice if that gonna be happen, but who knows which part of stolen btc they ''found''. Good luck for all people who lost Bitcoin in gox. Title: Re: Mt.Gox "finds 200K BTC in old wallets" Post by: esse83 on March 21, 2014, 04:42:54 PM So I was rereading the crisis draft and then suddenly:
"We will need to inject fresh coins inside the system in order to establish a basis to eventually clear the books by running the exchange (perhaps 200,000 coins). " <-- Bam! Well well well, look at that. Title: Re: Mt.Gox "finds 200K BTC in old wallets" Post by: Bonam on March 21, 2014, 06:11:52 PM It is completely not credible that they could simply have forgotten about 200k BTC in an "old wallet". Seriously, they should have come up with a better lie. How could they think anyone would buy that?
Title: Re: Mt.Gox "finds 200K BTC in old wallets" Post by: Wilhelm on March 21, 2014, 08:21:31 PM Maybe Mark Kapeles's mom was cleaning and found it behind the cupboard.
200KBTC == $116600000 == $116M YOU DON'T "JUST" LOSE THAT!!!!! Title: Re: Mt.Gox "finds 200K BTC in old wallets" Post by: DustyRah on March 21, 2014, 10:05:11 PM No one will trust Bitcoins any more in terms of business transactions because there is no way to track it. If I had a business, I would simply declare it hacked and walk away with all the Bitcoins in an unknown and untraceable wallet.
???? Title: Re: Mt.Gox "finds 200K BTC in old wallets" Post by: Mad Scientist on March 21, 2014, 10:16:18 PM It is completely not credible that they could simply have forgotten about 200k BTC in an "old wallet". Seriously, they should have come up with a better lie. How could they think anyone would buy that? ^This^Title: Re: Mt.Gox "finds 200K BTC in old wallets" Post by: chessnut on March 21, 2014, 10:28:23 PM He just forgot that he sent some funds to his android phone for starbucks coffee. last week he remembered the password that he'd forgotten for ages. it was magicaltux.
Title: Re: Mt.Gox "finds 200K BTC in old wallets" Post by: akujin on March 21, 2014, 10:57:18 PM What if he one day announce that he found all the missing bitcoins? Will he still go to jail? ;D
Title: Re: Mt.Gox "finds 200K BTC in old wallets" Post by: traderCJ on March 21, 2014, 11:15:38 PM Scenario 1: Coins get liquidated by Gox to cover corporate fiat obligations.
Scenario 2: Coins eventually make their way back to Gox customers, who immediately dump them. Outcome in both scenarios, price drop. The whales see this, and this is why the price has been dropping in advance of the coins actually being sold by either Gox or their customers. In fact, Gox "losing" the coins saved us from a much, much harder fall. Now they're "finding" coins, which simply means more uncertainty. Title: Re: Mt.Gox "finds 200K BTC in old wallets" Post by: yogi on March 21, 2014, 11:17:14 PM Scenario 2: Coins eventually make their way back to Gox customers, who immediately dump them. Why would they dump them? Title: Re: Mt.Gox "finds 200K BTC in old wallets" Post by: traderCJ on March 21, 2014, 11:20:28 PM Scenario 2: Coins eventually make their way back to Gox customers, who immediately dump them. Why would they dump them? Herd mentality. They expect everyone else to do the same and will try to beat them to the punch. Will everyone sell? No, but enough will. We saw the same hysteria as Gox imploded. Title: Re: Mt.Gox "finds 200K BTC in old wallets" Post by: yogi on March 21, 2014, 11:28:18 PM Title: Re: Mt.Gox "finds 200K BTC in old wallets" Post by: traderCJ on March 21, 2014, 11:38:58 PM I hope you follow your own advice, I really do.
Title: Re: Mt.Gox "finds 200K BTC in old wallets" Post by: yogi on March 21, 2014, 11:42:55 PM I hope you follow your own advice, I really do. I haven't given any advice. I'm a gox creditor and I have no intention of dumping any coins I may get back. Title: Re: Mt.Gox "finds 200K BTC in old wallets" Post by: sgbett on March 22, 2014, 12:26:49 AM ...and I make two.
This whole "everyone will dump coins" hypothesis doesn't seem too solid Title: Re: Mt.Gox "finds 200K BTC in old wallets" Post by: chessnut on March 22, 2014, 01:30:23 AM why bollocks? we are talking about a bunch of speculators here, and some coins that are only worth what the next guy will pay. why will bitcoin reach $10,000? herd mentality. why? because it will still be speculator driven by $10,000. Title: Re: Mt.Gox "finds 200K BTC in old wallets" Post by: fran2k on March 22, 2014, 04:41:45 AM Oh, wait!
I just remembered I had 2 tons of gold under the bed, yikes! Title: Re: Mt.Gox "finds 200K BTC in old wallets" Post by: FastBluff on March 22, 2014, 05:48:58 AM Oh, wait! I just remembered I had 2 tons of gold under the bed, yikes! Kinda hard to misplace that.. Blind? lol Title: Re: Mt.Gox "finds 200K BTC in old wallets" Post by: syber on March 22, 2014, 12:11:37 PM Oh, wait! I just remembered I had 2 tons of gold under the bed, yikes! Must be a comfortable nights sleep. Honestly don't know why this guy is still even alive. Isn't that what the silk road is for? ;D Title: Re: Mt.Gox "finds 200K BTC in old wallets" Post by: piramida on March 23, 2014, 12:49:38 PM ...and I make two. This whole "everyone will dump coins" hypothesis doesn't seem too solid make that three. right now, my coins at gox changed from a short-term speculative coins to a very long-term (possibly infinitely long ;) ) investment. definitely not going to sell anything when (if) something gets paid back, these are considered lost now and will go to long-term cold storage if retrieved. Title: Re: Mt.Gox "finds 200K BTC in old wallets" Post by: sgravina on March 23, 2014, 01:19:55 PM I haven't seen my wife and kids in years. This morning I finally found them. Turns out they have been living with me the whole time.
Title: Re: Mt.Gox "finds 200K BTC in old wallets" Post by: sgbett on March 23, 2014, 09:13:29 PM I haven't seen my wife and kids in years. This morning I finally found them. Turns out they have been living with me the whole time. bitcointalk can do that to ya' aye Title: Re: Mt.Gox "finds 200K BTC in old wallets" Post by: 600watt on March 24, 2014, 01:50:33 PM I haven't seen my wife and kids in years. This morning I finally found them. Turns out they have been living with me the whole time. bitcointalk can do that to ya' aye i told my wife i stopped smoking, alcohol and carbonated soft drinks. she looked at me kind of amazed, but encouraging. when i added that i will also stop checking bitcoin charts and stop using bitcointalk she raised her brows and shook her head silently. |