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As what the title of this thread we may bet online on boxing if this ambitious plan of Bob Arum pushes through.


This may sound ambitious but knowing the connection of Arum in the boxing world, i hope he can pull this one and this is good for us bettors too  :).


What are your thoughts on this guys?

https://www.boxingscene.com/arum-well-four-fight-espn-cards-two-three-times-week-starting-early-june--148810

As expected this will be an empty arena for fans out there, they'll surely provide extreme security measures over this kind of event. Since Nevada state was one of the state that has less cases of the virus, my hunch tells me this will really gonna push through. Bettors? For sure they'll love it.

If Dana White was able to stage a fight and made money amidst COVID, why can't I? That must be what Arum is asking himself.

This does not sound ambitious anymore, not when the mayor of the city in which this event will be launched and the US president himself are fully supportive of such initiatives, and with a precedent in Jacksonville.

I cannot see a huge obstacle for this kind of event not to push through.

This is Bob Arum speaking, he makes everything and anything possible in boxing, he has the money and the connection to make everybody involved so I think it will be successful, boxing fans are very hungry in live boxing and they are going to make money from pay per view they can even break the record if they have a good name in their cards, let's see how they are going to push this in the midst of the pandemic.

And maybe it will be depending in which country the event will be conducted mate,because i remember few weeks ago there
 is a thread created here that boxing event happens in small one country that also accept fans to watch(but limited persons
 only to follow the social distancing)so if small organizer can do then what more for Bob Arum?but for me whatever they
 decided to do still i will be happy to have this event as i missed betting in boxing specially if my countrymen will go up
and fight in ring.

Definitely, Bob Arum can pull this one. He really knows that everyone is at home so this is a win-win situation. Pay-per-view $5 is a shoo-in for those boxing fans out there. And he can take it one step at a time, showcasing his Top Rank boxers, very clever Mofo!

And yes, I would say that this is not ambitious, and it is really doable with his experience and his business connections inside and outside of the ring.

I am also optimistic that this fight will take place. The reduction of activities is being put into practice while some sporting events are reopening and of course the strict measures to prevent the spread of the Coronavirus.
TV and internet will be our best means to enjoy these events.

Bob Arum doesn't enter in this kind of business situation without thinking of generating money. So indeed he is very clever boxing promoters.


He can pull all strings together, networks, the hotels, the venue of the fights, the fighters themselves and it will be on his own terms. Nothing ambitious but a brilliant idea to make income for everyone in this Covid-19  pandemic.

If this will be pushed(things that i believe can be done by Arum) then this is a cause for a celebration for all sports bettor specially Boxing fans.

i hope those in line event will be added in this like Casimero and Inoue fight because it is much awaited specially our countrymen.

As today still the pandemic outbreak coronavirus does not have a cure and the number of people getting infected are rapidly increasing and this is not a good sign for having the flattening the curve. Still, there is a chance that some of the places today will hold their country up to December because to avoid getting the virus spreading rapidly and increasing. If you want to become safe it is better to don't mind the gambling with the essence of the people because they don't want to have too.  While there are still an outbreak happening it is good to have a good body monitoring like exercise that is doing with the boxers. It is a good opportunity for them to make more practice even they are on their houses or training field because it has time an allotment on their training which is good so if the pandemic will now go they are fully prepared and give their audience a wonderful fight and win the title.

There is still a risk of getting the virus, why is it that people aren't following what the government asked them to. If they will make this private then it is possible, no gathering in a venue, no other people, then they can make this happen. Especially that they should prioritize the safety and health of other people before doing this so. Bob Arum should also prioritize the health of the staffs that will make this Boxing betting possible. But if I were you, I will wait for this pandemic to end so that it is not that hassle to create an event where people will risk their health to get the virus just to make money. There are a lot of sports betting in an online casinos or fantasy betting, you should mind you safety and prevent this physical contact while this pandemic is still active.

I think that up until June nothing will have changed significantly regarding the pandemic.If boxing happens and we all would welcome such move I am sure it will be in an empty arena without fans as even with fans sitting within 2 meter distance of each other there is still a big risk of a wave of contagions happening.

If he can make it happen why not, he is a top promoter he can do this thing, he see the other away around he see that he can make money out of it, because he knows there are millions of people in lock down that wants to see sports events and it's a right time to make huge in the pay per view, and the betting public, I hope it materialize.

Yes, there is still a risk of virus however we need to continue with our lives, quaranteene and lockdown can't last forever.
Of course, if some sport events continue that will happen with special safety and hygene measures, maybe even without fans. Still I'm not against boxing or any other sport event to start in June. I think we will need to learn to live with risk, at least until  vaccine or cure will be discovered.

life is already risky after all so we humans are already get used to this risky situation   .

we need to continue living because if not then we will be in great hunger  .  i think that is more worster than being potentialy exposed to corona virus  .   boxing can still be continued too of course but they should only limit the people that can go inside , just like what other sport events are doing recently    . i heard boxers on this event are legends so this one is too important to be cancelled  .

I really am not a fan of all this sport resuming with no fans. Fans and the atmosphere they produce is what makes sport. I guess it’s better than nothing though, I’m so bored, I can’t wait to see sport resume.

I dont see any merits in doing it they should just wait until a vaccine is officially created rather than popular and high skilled boxers gets infected by the disease. We surely dont want to see that happen because even medical professionals due to human error some of them got transmitted by the disease.

Even me Im really like to see again a boxing fight but they need to think what is better to do if they open boxing again this June or not.
But once they open it I think better to not have any audience so the virus will not spread to more people but without audience the sports activitiee or the fightd are boring to watch .

The fighters that he contacted would love to have the match asap. Businesses and livelihoods were postponed and that's why they will surely take the fight as Arum contacts them.

It seems that many sporting events will be on this new normal setup.

Fans make the sports, yeah, that's the case, we may experience it but this will just for a while, consider this as the new normal. What I am anticipating to see of sport event was basketball. There are other sports will surely to resume are those sports that has no direct physical contacts like: tennis, golf, etc.

There's nothing wrong and it's good that sports events are slowly resuming again. But of course, strict regulations would be implemented in this event since we are not sure how long this virus will take. Probably even in June, there's still no vaccine yet. So it's better to not allow fans to watch the boxing game live to prevent creating a crowd.

Before doing the event, I bet they have already made a plan to protect everyone and secure their safety. Just like us, they also need to make a living (although they already have so much money). Personally, I see nothing wrong about making this event, as long as they can implement restrictions. Hoping that they won't allow live fans, they could just make it available online or on TV. I believe it's not only them who wants to play again, even other athletes as well.

I think this would happen, he would not be too confident saying that if he cannot make it happen.
With all the necessary measures in place, a boxing event could be possible, if they did it with UFC, it could also be possible with boxing.

I will certainly look forward to this, I've been missing betting since NBA stopped or pause the season.

The UFC made a successful return where they tested everyone who is participating in the event and they will be continuing to put up fights this months and if the boxing promoters can learn from them on how to carry on with the event during a pandemic, then they can really learn from the UFC president and carry on putting up good events for the fans sitting at home.

The most important words "safe and secure way" from Arum. .I'm hoping it will happen, I know they can give a safe fight that will not result to any infection and it's still gonna be fun even if we are watching it in live TV.. what I really like is that I can again bet on sports.

great news bisdak.. I'm so positive this will take place.

Maybe if this goes through a lot of adjusment will be made such as extreme precaution and testing for fighters and staff that would be present during the fights. This maybe allowed of no audience will be present and the fight will onle be avilable via telecast. This won't be bad at all.

If this is really true then it is a good news for those who were waiting for a long time to bet. There is still a month left in June and if the situation of coronavirus become more worse then this match can be postponed too. Nothing can be said with surety if these matches will be held as scheduled.

Maybe a fist promoter will evaluate about it when the pandemic will continue to run like the UFC, but all this must be reconsidered because in the middle of a pandemic there must be a level of vigilance where they fear being infected by the crowd.

But I'm sure boxing fighters will start again in the near future and those of their lovers will certainly be more happy to bet inside the house while watching it.

For the undercard boxers, it would sound very fair now that there will be no cheerers and shouting.

But you still can't see how they could make money without gate receipts. 3 fights a week is fair. This will be like UFC. Arum has many friends I'm sure he knew Dana White too which he probably asked regarding how to make this possible.

There are upcoming fight between Kubrat Pulev and Anthony Joshua. Even if they are just under card, they still have something on their sleeves. It makes me excited to watch their fight and their records makes me more excited because Kubrat Pulev or "Cobra" has a record of 29 matches 28 wins 1 lose and 14 knockouts while Anthony Joshua or "AJ" has a record of 24 matches 23 wins 1 lose and 21 knockouts. They are both using an orthodox style so the fight will be fair and not easy to predict who is going to win the fight.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Joshua_vs._Kubrat_Pulev

I don't imagine there will be any major fights on any of these cards.

I'm not somebody who watches lower tier fighters (e.g. undercard fighters). I typically only watch the main event and sometimes the 1 or 2 fights before that.

Realistically, I don't know too much about the boxers that fight earlier on most cards, so I wouldn't be inclined to bet on them either way.

That, plus the fights will likely be held in an empty arena—not exactly great for watching, considering the crowd and atmosphere is part of the show.

I'll probs stay away from boxing until the events are back in full force, unless we see some big name fights.

In Nevada, there are currently at least 6152 confirmed Covid-19 cases, or maybe I am mistaken about the amount of data, I just hope that everything will remain safe so that the sport or match played is completely safe. I personally do not really want to rush but if that is the choice and maybe to restore the economy etc., I don't think it will be a problem and hopefully this news will be a motivation for every player and many people to rise from this epidemic.

Actually it's not ambitious but really a must thing to do. Way better than they will wait first for the pandemic virus to slow down.

But if it will attract most of the gamblers, I can't say for now. Other gamblers might want to continue to take a break from their gambling activity as they need money. As for Pay Per View, I do hope they can get a good number of subscriptions as we all know, others might also take a break from doing subscription to any program.


Imagining what would be the setup for this.

Well they have resumed some of the sports so productions will find ways to also come out and play their part. They wouldn't just lay down and watch everything stand up while the industries are starting to resume. Business as usual. We all got to make money, Bob Arum has to make money god bless the Jews.

If they have to rely on the online payments alone, I guess this is the new setup I guess. no big stadium that costs. They can operate with just few people inside and camera at every corner.

They already know that don't worry. We are talking about big people here. No way they will just push it without concrete and strong plan. The plan is not the usual live coverage of boxing matches you see with jampacked audiences. It will surely be different.

This is not just about gambling. It will also open up a chance for average people to get back on work again. Surely, there are considerations for this.

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I wondered who are these fighters that Arum contacted.

Hopefully, there are big names. :)

Empty arenas would be the way to go forward if they really want to pursue opening sports for their viewers. Besides, they may get lots of viewership in PPV since everyone at home is craving some action while being under quarantine. I'm pretty sure lots of other sports associations would follow suit to this sort of setup in the meantime while the pandemic is still ravaging the communities and countries. We crave for entertainment and people need something to kill time and reintroducing boxing to the world stage amid the pandemic might be something to actually ease the minds of people inside their homes who love the sport.

There would be no other way but to deal with that kind of set-up where arenas are empty and the only ones are there is the boxers itself and staffs.They would really need to follow strict protocols
for their the safety of anybody specially into its boxers.This had already been done on other sports and for sure this would push through since Arum does have lots of connection and the power
to do so.People are indeed craving already and this is where the association would get revenues from PPV and it expect it would be priced higher than before.

Boxing is a dirty sport.
There are a lot of money on the background and I have heard that so many games are fake and are done just for promotion purposes.
I don't think that bookers would ever think or adding Boxing events available for gambling because this is not going to be profitable to them.

You made my day!

How about to consider the money around in Soccer,Baseketball and others? Faking games? I dont think so but there would always that we do called fixed ones but actually we can easily point it out as a viewer
since we do actually seen on what happened and when decisions is too far away on majorities jurisdiction then that would fire up an issue.Promotion is part because we know that this is one
of generating some income. Whats wrong with that?

Bookers dont add boxing? Seems like you arent familiar with this field. Try to check for some time and lastly when it comes to fake then WWE would be the best candidate for that.(not sport related but it fits out in the word "fake")

It is hard to expect to conduct any sporting event with a crowd, you cannot expect anyone as audience will be permitted for any sporting events for the next 6 months.

The boxing promoters rarely put fights that are packed with entertainment and good fights, majority of the lower tier card fights are filled  to pack the card with lower caliber boxers or someone upcoming fighter fighting a nobody to pad his win column.

I have no idea what you are talking about  ::). The biggest combat events are in boxing and you have no idea what you are talking about.

For some users here they may not be big names for them but i have read that they doing their best to fly in Inoue to American soil since Casimero is already in Las Vegas, so that their fight pushes through.

Jerwin Ancajas is also being eyed to be swoop in from the Philippines to fight Jonathan Rodriguez for the International Boxing Federation (IBF) super flyweight crown.

Maybe Bob Arum will test the water on these low tier fighters first before pitting big names into the new normal of boxing.

Lower weight class. Might not be a big name to others but a big name for their represented country.  If that will be in June, Inoue might come as maybe the situation might be better that month. Japan is currently implementing a travel restriction plus the fact that the US is number 1 in confirmed cases, Inoue's team might have a hard time to decide if they will push.

Anyway details about the Inoue vs Casimero should be on the other thread so I will not post more.

Back to topic, maybe those fights that got canceled in March and April will also be part of the match. Boxers involved here are also big names in the world of boxing but I'm sure others here are not familiar with them.

^^ That would be great if Arum will get Inoue so that we can finally see the fight that we all have been waiting for this year. Yes, this will be just a trial basis for Top Rank, I'm sure that they are boxers on the lower tier willing to accept just to earn in this new boxing norm. Boxing authorities (state athletic commissions, boxing organisers and bodies) should come up with a clear guidelines and regulations before allowing this to happen.

Though this bout is not only promoted by Top Rank but Arum has a lot of influence in the US so it's really good for Manny to team up with Arum in promoting the fight. His statement seems very convincing, then for sure we can expect this to happen.

Inoue vs Casimero,this is a good fight, and a big fight since Inoue the beast is a high rank pound for pound boxer.

of different ranking - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxing_pound_for_pound_rankings

he always get into the top 5. :)

He is in good ranking but remember that its his first fight in the US, while his opponent has been fighting in different part of the world.

I would say, this is a big challenge of Inoue to prove that he is a real deal.

But also a chance for Casimero to prove that He can revenge His countrymen Nonito Donaire.

Though Inuoe is the favorite here yet the Filipino Boxer is one of the best in His division and he is very hungry if professional fights like this.

So maybe i can say that this is a Perfect match and will surely brings Joy to the fans and their own country.

For me it's not necessary to revenge Donaire because we know Donaire is going to retire soon, the fight between the young and the old, most of the time, the younger boxer wins as he is stronger and he showed that in their fight, and you know after the fight, Inoue still has so much respect on Donaire.

Let's just say that this is a fresh fight, no one should get revenge of, it's the fight to prove who is the best between the two.

He can do that he has the money, the connection, Bob Arum is one promoter, you cannot stop doing what he loves doing, and of course the boxers and fans would love to have action even if we have a pandemic, because it can be handled with extreme precautions and guidelines, I hope this will become successful.

As long as they are responsible for what may happen, there's no problem with that. But I guess, there will be strict safety precautions among attendees. Though it will be selected few, but they still need to be careful with their decision. Boxing betting world will be live again.

Obviously, security is what matters more here, the further events might be affected if they will not be able to make the first event a successful one.
In terms of attendees, well, there's no fans, probably those who are in the arena or near the ring are those people with relevant function for the success of the event.


Hopefully, I'd really love to see boxing again, this is going to be the first attempt.

Most of the sports events today are canceled or close because they don't want to have this pandemic virus coronavirus19 also one if the good thing they want to avoid having a gathering of the people in just a single place because this is the most essential thing to spread the virus rapidly. If the person is infected in the arena and he can spread the virus immediately into a hundred person which is too many people and by that it causes multiply in so on and so forth.

Also this time it is a good opportunity for the players to make more practice at their homes and gyms because they have a lotted time to make sure they are already. Also, it is better they are on the condition to make sure they will give a good fight to the audience.

I understand people really want to see some action regarding on the sports they love to see but if you look on situation everyday the case getting more worse and I'm sure we can't afford to contribute for another wave of covid right? And to ease  this things up let's just think of this  if there's no cure created we will never get back in our normal lives, No gathering,No travel and no live sports or anything can lure crowds in public places.

Well, I am positive that these boxing events will push through besides there are a lot of people waiting for someone who will have the initiative to try making their life go back as it was before. And with the support of many including the president definitely it will be allowed with extreme precautionary measures for the safety and health of everyone in every game, but it's for the good of the people in each event. Bettors will support definitely support Bob Arum as well for it is also one way for them to earn a profit though it may not guarantee,-- it will still lessen the anxiety in the midst of the pandemic. Indeed, I will be glad and excited to watch again a live stream of a sports event because it will help lessen my boredom during this lockdown.

I'm not just talking about boxing promoters, What I mean is that all bodies, (WBC/WBC/IBO/IBF) and athletics, (Nevada State Athletics/Los Angeles State Athletics and others) should come up with a clear guidelines on how they are going to stage not just small fights but name fighters who are fighting for a belt.

Yes, Bob Arum's sphere of influence is big and maybe he is the right person to bring everyone in the table and everyone agreeing. So that we can see the likes of Canelo or our very own Filipino boxers in the ring again.

The first fights fit for the big names to make a grand opening Inoue is a big name. He is undefeated so far but it may not be enough to catch the attention of the world. It has to be big names like Tyson Fury, Jose Ramirez, Juan Manuel Marquez, or Crawford. Names that will ring a bell for Arum's production to be one of a kind.

But can we expect quality fights over time if they are going to be doing this weekly?

What if Arum does have some sort of medicine that he will let the involved boxers to take which will make them lesser potential with covid19? I'm thinking something like this because of his connections and he's pursuant to get his business back again.
As a sports fan, it's a bonus if we get to see another fight amidst of the situation that the world is facing. I'm sure that they are aware with the possible bashing that they will get.

That's another what if, to much conspiracy creates fantasy so maybe let's stick to reality where we can tackle the correct score on what's really happening since I'm sure as of now professionals are struggling to find a working cure for this pandemic and I as a sports fan would cannot afford to see a risky fight since this will not really help us and it will contribute for prolonging our suffering from this disease so maybe best for this kind of industry to stay put for a while and help the government to minimize the casualty by staying at home we can see those fight all month long if the pandemic ends.

It's crazy how dull-minded idiots can't even entertain themselves for a few months, and are just itching to be entertained by others.

You know who you are.

How about we take a god damn break from sports or any other event that can worsen the pandemic for just a little while, and work on ourselves instead?

It's god damn infuriating to see.

We can still continue the boxing event but it should b no audience in the arena, it would still follow the rules of our government as of this pandemic virus is still existing around the world. The can have steam online so we can still each the event and put our bets, In this case, the even would be better because even though they proceed on the boxing they still not do something to make other people into danger by attending the arena and can cause of spreading the virus for every people.

But for me this should not happen, we can still wait until the quarantine has gone. It is still better when we watch in live or in the place that the boxing events happen.

This event is interesting let's see how it played out if this becomes successful many more similar events will continue and Arum's proffit and those who rely on boxing will continue to make a living, I think it's going to be successful, it's Bob Arum's promotion he has the connection the money and the trust of the boxing industry.

If the government does not need to balance the economy, we can just all stay at our home and just rely from the support of the government, however, that seems to be unrealistic if we expect that to happen, there is no assurance when this pandemic will stop and therefore these businesses that was affected will get bankrupt if they will not operate again, for me, there is nothing wrong to operate again as long as they do the right measures to prevent the spread of the virus.

If this boxing can starting this June. Of course this good news for boxing fans, and we can play boxing betting again. What's more
there is a statement from a trusted person like Bob Arum, of course information can be trusted. And I am sure this plan can be
implemented well, I as a fan of boxing certainly not patiently waiting for June.

Right, as long as there's safety measures and everything will be followed strictly under the government jurisdiction, this plan fight may proceed, there are fans and gamblers who are waiting for this and for sure Bob Arum knew the potentials of getting huge amounts of money coming from those gamblers who are waiting for this to take place.

It's not a conspiracy but it can happen also in real life. I know that I'm just guessing but the connection thing is for real in the entertainment industry, especially if you are a well-known personality and have a lot of money. And for such personality like Bob Arum, it's possible for him that he can have it and just don't want it to be exposed in the media so that his connection would remain low-key. You can't afford to watch that fight but if it happens then you have to afford because it's about to happen.

Even if we follow some preventive measures to avoid spreading of the virus which is COVID-19, it's impossible. That's why it's better to cancel those events and forget about the profit, think about the lives especially those who sacrifice themselves just to maintain the health care system. It's kinda unfair for those who're in the medical field, some of them died already because of this virus, so be mindful and forget about the business and profits from gambling. The sports athlete is also a human who can be affected by the virus if the sports competition continues, this is only my opinion.

It is not impossible, in fact we already have a successful boxing event help in Nicaragua, so I guess it's also possible with other venue.
I know US is a country that was affected with covid heavily, but they can also choose a location where they can secure the boxers and those who televised the fight, please remember that business will not die just because of covid, if we will wait, we have to wait until vaccine is release.

Yesterday, president Trump announced that vaccine will be available by the end of December this year. So there are two options either resume the boxing events next year or have them played in closed stadiums. Both solutions have some advantages and disadvantages and it all depends upon the authority how they go about it.

That seems to be a good news, so its safe to assume that they already found the cure for this virus, and I guess even if there's no vaccine yet, people will already be confident knowing that the vaccine will be out soon, I think it will take a year or so, but I would not complain if it will be release by December this year.

You should not believe such statements from the President. Sometimes they issue such statements so that the panic in the society is calm down. Even if this statement is true, don't you think they are taking way too long to develop the vaccine. If this virus continues till december, there will be lot of more deaths because of this and i don't see any future of sports and boxing.  :(

There is no reason not to believe the president, he is the father of the nation and whatever comes into his mouth will be taken seriously.
I am sure people are already happy now with the announcement, but I would like to see some link about the news though.


That's even fast because experts said it will take a year for the vaccine to be produced, going to December, it's less than a year.

I might get swayed a little bit in here but Trump is notoriously known to be a bluffer when it comes to whatever he says. He always talks first before acting and most of the time, what he spits out of his mouth is nonsense , like the tweet he made re: hydroxichloroquine and remdesivir as amazing drugs against COVID-19 while there isn't enough study to support it.

I guess the matches will still be decided by the state on whether to give them the permit or not. Then again, since everyone is already complaining about the economy and not much money going around these days, they might permit the match to proceed on the condition that no live audience would be around. It would kinda seem freaky at first to watch boxing matches with no spectator on the ringside and on the benches, though.

He's just pampering the Americans to not get panic on their situation, also to make America still great even if they had hurt so badly by the virus but I don't heard any news from the vaccine he introduce so far maybe those things didn't get a positive result but lets still wait for further information regarding on this.

And I'm sure that there will no fight gonna happen since the case still worse and no vaccine that can cure the infected has been created successfully so far we might gonna see the real answer for this maybe next year.

Sorry bro but I have to disagree with you on this one. It has been done in other countries like South Korea and Nicaragua, no doubt they can do it in the US. A few states are willing to open for this kind of sport. People in general, I think will support this idea since it's one way of bringing their economy back on its feet.

The UFC recently conducted three events in the past week and the Florida authorities were supporting to resume everything and if boxing needs to resume they need to follow the steps what Dana White and UFC did successfully. Not every state is open to conduct these sporting events but Florida was open and if the boxing promoters can come up with a good fight card then it will be successful.

It will eventually happen in the USA, specially that there were a lot of people who actually don't want to believe in the pandemic. Imo, the pandemic causes more threat to the economic state of every country than with the health care system. Indeed resuming of sporting events is one of the steps to bring back the economy. Thus, it will keep people from not going out during the lockdown.

If the new normal would be set out ex. remote type sports then it can possibly operate once again which wont really risk that much since theres no crowd involved.
Its really hard to think that if this would last for more months then i cant imagine on what would be the impact to it to the economy thats why its just understandable
that government would really make up this kind of decision because it would really be that hard on generating revenues if these industry had been on hold.




It will depend on the government if they would recognize to re-open these events just for the sake of economic aspect.
if they would impose strict health compliance then i dont see anything wrong about this resume.
We dont have any choice but to resume operation.

^ Definitely the sports event will push through since Arum already mentioned that they will do it in a safe and secure way and that means extreme security measures will be implemented not only on the boxers but also to everyone who works for this game. Probably there are no live audiences as one of the safety measures that they will be implementing however sports bettors may still continue betting because I am positive that this will be on a live stream. Nevertheless, this boxing event can be a way to show how is a "new normal" will be in sports after the lockdown.

Agree, man. As authorities being open for this kind of event, it will be up for the fighters to accept the offer and step up on the ring. But I guess they would, there's nothing to be afraid of if they would show no positive results from the virus beforehand... oh such match would've to be cancelled if result went positive. So there's nothing really have to deal here except to those opposing citizens.

Count me in.

One way or another it's still a match between two virus free fighters having a fight in a ring with no crowds, and no staffs that showing symptoms in a highly disinfected stadium, and got many preventive measures before proceeding. So, I clearly see no mistake here. If anything that needs to be deal with here, again, it was about what was I mentioned above.

There is this talkshow that I watched yesterday and they were talking about the 2nd waves of covid19. The reason why there will be a second wave and this is base on what they are hypothetically been discussing. People are used to going to events like boxing matches and when we all go out of our homes, there will be spikes of covid19 victims and this will be worse because there will be more than the previous.

We are confident to go out because the rate of death so far is just too small but if an elderly is infected it means death.  Arum is a risk-taker, they better provide a secure measure for so I hope it will not trigger more victims.

Authorities will not allow this kind of activities if they see that their people's live is at risk and I also believe that with the technology and knowledge that we have on the virus we could somehow avoid contamination. I listened to a doctor being interviewed and she said that we have to learned to deal with this virus as we can't hide forever from it.

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Some update on the Top Rank's plan this June.

Magdaleno, Pedraza Fights in Works For Top Rank Cards in June
 (https://www.boxingscene.com/magdaleno-pedraza-fights-works-top-rank-cards-june--148954)

A lot of fights to wait next month, this is good for boxing and Arum as a promoter really started it, I was wondering if he is the most popular and the most influenced promoter in the world of boxing?

I guess so, because he is the oldest popular active promoter in boxing right now, and with his willingness to make boxing live again, this would help the entire boxing industry, what needs to happen is just for this upcoming events to be successful, then slowly boxing events will be back to its normal schedule but with a new normal since there will be no crowd.

I would say yes, he has been in the business for many years now, and even Don King in the 80's for the top spot. And we all know that he is capable of staging big scale fights, super fights. But I wouldn't say that he is the most popular, we all know the controversies behind Oscar Dela Hoya and Floyd Mayweather and so a certain extent Manny Pacquaio. He ties to many people, even a close friend to billionaire and casino magnate Sheldon Anderson of Las Vegas Sands Corporation. So if there is someone that can get things done in this pandemic, it will be Arum.

I guess the new normal is pushing the emergence of the dominance of the computers and internet in the general aspect. In sports, it would be highly discouraged to invite crowds to the events place, thus the most convenient way to watch it live is through the internet or any cable service provider.
While on the other hand, this pandemic is also pushing the urgent possibility of implementing the cashless society.

Does anyone know what would be the full setup for these upcoming fights? Or is it released now?

Starting from:

a) venue
b) audience
c) team members
d) and others....

Right, if there is really a person today in the boxing world it will be Bob Arum.

Don King is gone, specially at how he handles Mike Tyson's career, it was really his downfall.
UFC recently had feature fights so I'm sure boxing can follow that lead. This is the new norm today is sports. If they get things right in the first fight, then absolutely, more sanctions fight are going to be next in line.

Definitely, the promoter has to ensure everything will work based on the guidelines the government has impose, otherwise, our dream of seeing a boxing event again in live TV will be gone again. I will support this one, though some of the players I am not familiar with, but I will try to excite myself with them by making some research since as of the moment, this is better than nothing at all.

you can refer to the article posted by OP. https://www.boxingscene.com/arum-well-four-fight-espn-cards-two-three-times-week-starting-early-june--148810

here's some of  the important notes from the article.



One thing is sure, there will be no audience as he was planning to get it televised, so probably through PPV only so they can still make money.

We can't insist because we know the situation that we are facing right now, lots of boxing event that was suspended now but this is one biggest chance to see if they will resume soon, so let's hope for the success of the event.

Casimero vs Inoue, and Wilder vs Fury, these are the fights that I have been anticipating to take place soon.

It will take place as this is a big fight, as a fan of Casimero, I am looking forward that he can give a good fight on Inoue and hopefully he can win that fight, that would be a great stepping stone for him going to the top at the expense of the champion with a good pound for pound ranking.

I'm excited also to witness this fight as we will be in June 2020 less than a week from now.

For now there is nothing definite yet on the set-up but one thing is for sure that it would be crowdless, there are no fans that would be watching the fight live on the ringside. People will watch on television and gamblers will bet on the online bookies. Hope that the pilot fights would turn out positive so they can follow it up with more fights and hopefully with some fans around.

All eyes on the pilot fight, if that will be a success, then I have no doubt that we will be able to see more fights after that.
June probably one of the busiest boxing month since it's the month where boxing will start to resume, that if we will really see this fight taking place.

I haven't open my sportsbook account for awhile now, maybe that's the time I'll resume too.

Some relevant update on the plan of Bob Arum to stage boxing fights this June and it would be next week.


Though not big names but still it's good to see fights being stage on this time of a pandemic. Hope all would turn out fine so we can see boxing and other sports slowly going back.

https://www.boxingscene.com/nevada-commission-approves-top-rank-dates-june-9-june-11-las-vegas--149135

Good, at least we can see boxing moving to this 'new norm'. And it looks like Bob Arum really put a long of work here and as much as I hate him, let give him props in this one. Yes, no big names yet but if this turns out to be successful in this pandemic, for sure they will slowly introduce high tier fighters to be showcase next. And then Canelo vs GGG or the much anticipated Inoue vs Casimero. So let's hope that the first staging will turn out to be good.

I think the card is good in my opinion.

Stevenson vs Caraballo is a good non-title fight. There's a lot of hype around Stevenson as he is an Olympian. And the we have Jessie Magdaleno in the main card vs Yenifel Vicente. Magdaleno beat our own Nonito Donaire by UD in 2016. It was a good fight but Magdaleno is too much for Nonito back then.

Now this is official already, so I would say it's a good news for the boxing fans, after this even, we will certainly witness a lot of fights to follow.
I am not familiar with the boxers too, but I'll definitely watch this fight since it's going to be the first in vegas, I'm sure there's no free viewing for this.

Anyway, if you have information about Inoue vs Casimero fight, please update in this thread, I hope that fight will be scheduled this next month too.

more sports events will follow especially those matches that only need 2 persons inside the ring or court. if nothing extraordinary happens after that fight, for sure they will set up more events. but they should avoid large crowds or audience. better be safe than sorry!

I am hoping and confident at the same time that this will be a successful event.
This is not the first fight, in other countries, they manage to host a successful boxing fight with crowd, this fight does not have a crowd.

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Hoping for this too, as a Filipino, I would love to see Casimero fight an undefeated boxer, he is coming from an impressive win, so I guess he'll be able to give a good fight to Inoue..I am not sure he will win against Inoue as the monster is also fast and he has the power, in fact he is the favorite but I trust my man.

I guess that depends on the decision on each country and the situation with pandemic they currently have.
Yes, there are many boxing foghts and other matches waiting to be held and let's hope things wil be get back to normal. For boxing matches I don't think that is ho hard to ensure all necessary health protection measures and funs can't hardly wait.

Would there be a high chance of match fixing due to no crowd? Just a thought.

Match fixing chances does get increased or decreased due to crowd. Even if people do not watch the match live in person, but they can watch it live on TV or later recordings on you tube, so there is not much difference.

Forget about the match fixing, it's unlikely to happen as no team would want to lose especially if we are talking of a major games here.
Though there are few people in the arena, but they will make sure the game is played live and stream live, and match fixing IMO is just a theory from bettors.

I think you haven't made your research. Nevada already has 7,696 confirmed cases and already 392 deaths.
https://i.imgur.com/uXiCaEk.png

And i don't think it is a good idea to force nor make an event with that current cases. Would you take the risk just to earn money and enjoy watching boxing matches? Also, even there would be security nor they maximizes preventive measures, the virus is an unseen enemy, there's no doubt that some of attendees would be asymptotic.


What makes a boxing event earn money is because of the tickets of the crowd and as well as their in-game bets. Only minimal events supports online betting nor has an online betting platform, some are just dependent on the games yet has no connection with boxing events per se.

No, match fixing is only based on the individual boxer, if boxer A and boxer B agrees to follow the script then that is a complete match fixing, also it's possible that boxer B will intentionally give the fight to boxer A as he is betting on himself to lose, that is possible every scenario.

Boxing in general is viewed as a corrupt sports for some people, so fix matching is happening, and some would not know though they are involved in the fight, sometimes its the judges who not truly score and favor a certain boxer, so that is still match fixing.

Anyway if you are a gambler,  just make sure you bet on the right side.

Anything if this sort of things happens in any sport let it be will get reported irrespective of the crowd presence or not. Nowadays we have camera and will be telecasted on various platforms so anyone will get caught of wrongdoing if so tried to do it. And not many would like to take that risk and spoil their reputation for the rest of their life.

They have to adjust now, they need to earn in PPV subscription since crowd is not possible due to the pandemic.
About betting, I think that is separate from gambling, the organizers does not make money from that, otherwise they will be accuse of fixing games.

I did and at that time the case hasn't blown up like that and by this time it even gets more to 8.5k cases and 400+ deaths they are more of a neutral unlike to other states. It isn't a forced event it will still on players and committee decision and if you haven't read the OP try to read it again and Arum stated there that they'll launch it in a secure and safer way. I think they know such risks and if they will risk the players as well as some fans (if they allow it) that will for sure not nice to them hosting such an event. It's "asymptomatic" at least research for that one too, if they don't allow fans as my reply saying "this will be an empty arena for fans out there" then I think that minimizes the risks.

Match fixing does exists and the matches which are of high profile , there are more chances of bigger match fixing. I am not saying that match fixing occurs in all high profile matches but it does happen in few of them.

I agree, there were rumours before, but it was long time ago and I doubt that there are prevalent today, specially high profile fights. It's really hard to fix it as there are huge money involved and I doubt that everyone involved are to be willing participants because sooner or later it will come up in public and it will affect them negatively as boxers.

And boxing promoters are eager to see the boxing go to make money here, so it doesn't make sense to think about fixing the match with or without the crowd.

This could happen in june. The other games is going to happen to or going to resume the game unless the country still fighting the pandemic. I have check on a site that some country still have pandemic problems and the infected people still rising. It's not a good idea if they resume a game if still having problem with the crisis.

They have evaluated the situation already, and they are aware that the cases is still high in the area, but then the fight was approved.
It was posted 1 page back, as you can read :

Nevada Commission Approves Top Rank Dates For June 9 & June 11 In Las Vegas  (https://www.boxingscene.com/nevada-commission-approves-top-rank-dates-june-9-june-11-las-vegas--149135)

so let's hope that it's going to be a success, the cases will continue to rise but if they will not do this, they won't be able to contribute on the recovery of the economy of United States.

Yes, for sure I will update this thread if I found some information about the Inoue vs Casimero, so far though there's nothing that I can report. Probably both are busy on their training in preparation of their big fight. And once we see boxing this June, it will probably a signal that they could be next in the following months.

Of course, any fight that resumes from now on is good. Because there is a good sign that we can live with the coronavirus and the economy can gradually generate some profit for the various sectors.
Boxing has shown courage and strength in this crisis, at first I saw it a bit challenging but now I see that it was a correct decision.

I also think that it's a good card too because of Jessie Magadaleno, the one who beat our own Nonita Donaire  :). Some of us here are expecting championship fights but i don't think that those could happen very soon. Championship fights are dependent on the outcome of this pilot episode.

Did someone knows what sportsbook have already odds for these fights? No odds yet on my favorite online bookies. 

It's not yet about on my sportsbook too, but I search the odds for the main event.

https://imgbbb.com/images/2020/06/01/main.png
source : https://www.boxingscene.com/nevada-commission-approves-top-rank-dates-june-9-june-11-las-vegas--149135


As we can see, he is heavily favored, so probably this is going to be an easy fight for Magdalono, I'm not gonna bet on him with the 1/20 odds.

This month of June would be an exciting one for Filipino fight fans as Mike Plania will slug it out with Joshua Greer Jr. in a 10 round fight, 120 pounds catchweight on June 17, 2020 MGM Grand, Las Vegas. Joshua Greer's name floated last month as a substitute for Inoue to fight Casimero but i guess it's scrap since Bob Arum expecting the fight between Casimero and Inoue would push through this July.

https://i.imgur.com/9o3MYJc.png

Nice to see it was included on the table.

Seeing the list of upcoming matches in the first-ever no audience match, some names involved are highly familiar in the world of boxing. That's a good start for a comeback and not just that, boxing matches will be regular. For upper weight class, did they already announced some boxers that will compete here aside from those got delayed?

"You've got to make sure all the procedures are safe and so forth. Hopefully, what we're doing will serve as a template for other promoters to put on shows."

Nice encouragement by Arum to other promoters.

Arum is going to make history. If he still insists this boxing match push thru, there could be more deaths to come. Unlike other countries, its the US that isn't panicking about the numbers. 300K lives wasted while the death in Asian countries didn't rocket that high the fact that it started here. The riots might make it worse.

There were certain cases that the symptoms of Covid cases don't show to people with good lungs and if these people attend this gathering, they will spread the virus.

That's too much of a statement, I don't think this boxing event will be approve if the government sees it will risk the lives of the people.
The boxing match that Arum is promoting is a no crowd boxing, but even if there is a crowd the social distancing and strict measures will certainly be strictly implemented,  businessman would really want to make money,  but in the end it's still the government who will decide if they will approve it or not, therefore the blame is on the government if the outcome of the event would result to the increase of infections to people.

I agree. The event is surely strictly well-organized and health measures are on top of the concern. Top Rank Promotions is a big company and they are not just pushing into something risky without a proper plan. They spend tons of money on this and they will just do a plan without considering all the risks? That's impossible. Their plans are approved by the health department. I will not include US Government here as Trump, even during the peak of pandemic virus on their country, is always open for any business to come back lol.

Let's just hope that their protocols will be follow properly and finger-cross, will not result into another case of Covid-19 infection. I do believe that this event will be successfully done.

If this new normal will strictly be implemented even Bob Arum can't take that away. Though they can have the event but to expect that a few people would come as they care about their health as well. Maybe Bob will think that he is also risking the lives of others and not just only money matters.
Well, I don't know if people are hungry for gambling because they are already exposed to online gambling these days.

This is one thing I could say, even Boxing betting is open live, but I'd rather not to visit not unless we are guaranteed safe from the virus. Better preferred to watch online and put bets on there.

Everything is closed due to the virus If the situation is not normal boxing may not start this June Because now everyone is protecting themselves from the virus The virus has crippled the economy and created a crisis. In that case, I also think that if we participate in gambling without watching the game in vain at this time we will be able to earn at least a little Many will find a source of income Gambling is becoming more effective than boxing the demand for gambling has increased a lot in the lockdown.

Well as the article points out that the big sports channels have no live content from the major leagues and sports organizations that Bob Arum's plans of weekly boxing would be a potential money maker for all parties involved. The biggest concern of course if there would be people watching. They would say yes because of the quarantine and all but still I think it would be a big gamble if the payoff is less than anticipated.

I can't really understand what you mean but i think you are wrong since proposed boxing fights in Las Vegas were already approved by the Nevada Commission. Please see below for the link of the article.

Nevada Commission Approves Top Rank Dates For June 9 & June 11 In Las Vegas (https://www.boxingscene.com/nevada-commission-approves-top-rank-dates-june-9-june-11-las-vegas--149135)

They are doing this to bring back the sport on it's feet slowly and maybe this could be the new normal, watching fights at the comfort of our home since live audience is prohibited. We can't hide from the virus forever, we have to deal with it accordingly and these fights have it's own safety protocol.

Yes, we can't hide from the virus forever, the deaths are just 300K nothing but a tiny percentage of the US citizen. Arum is persistent and of course, we know because its him that really gets to profit the most here and we in our house just there clicking bets.

One situation the might occur here is that fans are going to rally outside this venue because they wanna watch live. And if they can't go inside, riots will happen.
Men are dying like flies and a covid victim will not care but join the crowd. This is why Trump enforces Curfew today.

Is it true? As we know, it is related to the pandemic. But I also heard that some sports bets are going to open. however, they will always still follow the health protocol.
besides, sports bet boxing betting that is going to be in June should be missed by many people. But the next question is about will be there any fans to watch directly? some sports bets are doing the same and they may not include the fans at the stadium. It may be a dilemma if they will open boxing betting in this month.
By the way, the other sports bets are also coming. some will be also opened in LA. Moreover, the casino, the gamblers said that they have missed so much being on the offline casinos and playing directly.

WWE wrestling is pushing through so why not boxing as long as the health protocol and guidelines are followed and of course they should insured their athletes in case they become infected because of the events they are holding, I hope they become successful it's boring without those boxing events.

There are indeed lots of scenarios that might happen and cant really be stopped which would really make the situation even more worst specially on spreading up the virus.

So its just normal to impose up strict rules in regards to this.People should accept that it isnt really possible to go into event venues because of the threat of infection.

If they do tend to resume out boxing events then we can still bet in the convenience of our own homes.

I'm pretty sure that people are looking to gamble in this "new normal", not just boxing per se, but fans are looking for sports to go and continue. For sure, those promoters wanted to make more money, and so is the boxers, but I'm sure it will be strictly implemented specially that this is the first fight in this scenario.


Of course, online will be the best options for us, it might be PPV or some live stream channels.

Can you share the link of  WWE matches which are played live in this situation ? Was there crowd in the matches ?
I do not think WWE matches or the boxing matches will be interesting to watch if public crowds are not allowed to enter the stadium / arena.

And here are the cards:

June 9

Shakur Stevenson (13-0, 7 KOs), Newark, New Jersey, vs. Felix Caraballo (13-1-2, 9 KOs), Mayaguez, Puerto Rico, 10 rounds, junior lightweights.

Mikaela Mayer (12-0, 5 KOs), Colorado Springs, Colorado, vs. Helen Joseph (17-4-2, 10 KOs), Hamden, Connecticut, 10 rounds, junior lightweights.

Jared Anderson (3-0, 3 KOs), Toledo, Ohio, vs. Johnnie Langston (8-2, 3 KOs), Sarasota, Florida, 6 rounds, heavyweights.

Guido Vianello (6-0, 6 KOs), Roma, Italy, vs. Don Haynesworth (16-3-1, 14 KOs), New Rochelle, New York, 6 rounds, heavyweights.

Robeisy Ramirez (2-1, 2 KOs), Gulfport, Florida, vs. Yeuri Andujar (5-3, 3 KOs), San Cristobal, Dominican Republic, 6 rounds, featherweights.

Calvin Metcalf (10-3-1, 3 KOs), Kansas City, Missouri, vs. Quatavious Cash (11-2, 7 KOs), Atlanta, 6 rounds, middleweights.

June 11

Jessie Magdaleno (27-1, 18 KOs), Las Vegas, vs. Yenifel Vicente (36-4-2, 28 KOs, 1 NC), Miami, 10 rounds, junior lightweights.

Adam Lopez (13-2, 6 KOs), Glendale, California vs. Luis Coria (12-2, 7 KOs), Moreno Valley, California, 10 rounds for the vacant NABF featherweight title.

Bryan Lua (5-0, 2 KOs), Madera, California, vs. Dan Murray (5-3, 0 KOs), Lanoka Harbor, New Jersey, 6 rounds, lightweights.

Gabriel Muratalla (2-0, 2 KOs), Fontana, California, vs. Fernando Robles (2-2, 0 KOs), Pearland, Texas, 4 rounds, bantamweights.

Eric Mondragon (3-0, 2 KOs), Maywood, California, vs. Mike Sanchez (6-0, 2 KOs), Colton, California, 6 rounds, lightweights.

https://www.boxingscene.com/stevenson-caraballo-magdaleno-vicente-full-cards-announced--149235

And as per Bob Arum, Arum On ESPN, Top Rank Return: If We F--k It Up, It’s Gonna Be Bad For Boxing (https://www.boxingscene.com/arum-on-espn-top-rank-return-if-we-f-k-it-up-its-gonna-bad-boxing--149257). But I do agree, of course we wanted to see high profile fights, but in this situation, we need to see some test fight first, like scoring, network, boxing promoters, etc. So if organisations or fans look at this first fight during the pandemic and there are problems, then it's back to square one again. So Bob really need to do it right.

yeah it will look so weird if we only see wrestlers and boxers on the ring  but i think i have seen some before on ufc where there are less to no people at all in the background  .   this does not look bad at all because they are just zooming the camera in the center   .  so im now thinking that what if they do it on boxing as well  ? because there are now boxers fan that cant wait to watch , there are also sports bettors and sports betting site that are pending on the corner also waiting for thier comeback

Here is one of the link to one of their matches,there are still a lot coming up in the future,
https://www.nydailynews.com/coronavirus/ny-coronavirus-wwe-florida-wrestling-20200414-xf3hpnf2x5dkfk4alyl4fybz4y-story.html the article also says that
If things will not go wrong many more sporting events with contacts will continue.

I agree! I think that the production of the videos will have more quality so that the events exceed a high audience. We've always enjoyed good production, but now there's a special reason to bring the best of events to the public.

Truly these events will be a lot of fun and every visitor is waiting to see But in the event of an economic crisis caused by the virus many are choosing to bet on the game to solve their financial problems. But controlling everything will actually increase both its audience and listeners The events will become popular again.

We are very happy to see that boxing is moving in this new norm.

But it seems that there are a lot of pressures on Bob's Arum shoulder to really make this inaugural event in this pandemic.

So yes, he really needs to do everything down to the very detail so that boxing will continue. Otherwise it will be a big drawback, and then reset probably in another month or two and correct the mistakes. So we will see, we do hope though that it will be a big success so that we can watch boxing again.

Arum couldn't stay this long in the game if he didn't know how to handle pressure in boxing. Boxers have a lot of ego to begin with and taking about money? He surely does a good job handling famous boxers in the past.

I'm under the impression though that Arum is already hyping the fight, going on around media and his trying to portray as if this is going to fail or something. We really know how Arum is, and it's really hard to read his every statement. But yeah, hope for the best in this first fight.

It could happen as long as there is no audience on the event, this will prevent the risk of spreading the virus because once the event happens and there will be an audience on the arena, the social distancing will be set aside, they will not mind the social distancing because of the excitement. It can be if they limit the audience to the arena and they will organize well the situation. The most important thing in sports is the audience, how could you imagine a game without an audience, there would be no noise, no one will cheer you or something.
That's true, the feeling of watching live is really different from watching on the screen or TV. The excitement is really different on both things. The best thing that they can do is online streaming so the sports betting would be available as well. :)

Arum knew things before its started, he can play both sides as the important thing is to earn cash, He will do everything to achieved and from his past experienced everything is under control.
It's a good thing for every boxing lovers as matches can be settle again if everything will run smoothly.

For those who miss reading the past post, here's the possible fight this month according to Bob Arum.

https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/top-rank-boxing-schedule-bob-arum-sets-main-events-dates-for-six-fight-cards-in-june/

https://imgbbb.com/images/2020/06/05/breakdown.png

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Hopefully there will be no trouble and this fight will take place per schedule.

Bob Arum is really brave he has good insight and he really loves this sport, a lot of people who depends on this industry owe him for initiating this, as long as they can follow the guidelines and the protocols, the industry can move even though slowly until such time that we are out of this pandemic.

Bob love the sport and love the money it will generate under his promotion, lol...
Anyway, if we look at other sports like basketball, football and others which involves a lot of players to play the game, they are close to resuming already, so I guess there would be no problem with boxing as there are only two person that will have close contact with each other, and this industry does not sell fight on a daily basis.

Finallly, odds are in place for the Stevenson vs Caraballo and Magdaleno vs Yenifel matches in one of my favorite online bookies.

https://i.imgur.com/ihAbZP9.png

Just to put up some links for those who arent aware on what bookie it is. https://sportsbet.io/sports/boxing/matches/future  ;)

This one ease some stress out to myself that we can already make up some bets on our favorite sports.

We can even see inplay games atm. https://sportsbet.io/sports/inplay

So the first fight is going to take place at June 9 which is just 2 days from now. It will be interesting to see the boxing match after such a break due to pandemic. Lets hope all the matches are conducted safely.  :)

It's only business to Bob, LOL. Every sports are already resuming and I'm sure everyone is aware that this could be the new normal for us. Our lives should move even with the current threat of the virus. And probably those boxers that are going to be in the ring could have been tested for the virus itself.

Thanks for the odds, I'm not sure to bet though, it seems that the favorites are going to win in my opinion. I'm not seeing any upsets in the first fight in this pandemic.

Testing is necessary, that's part of the process to ensure those who are in the venue are negative from covid-19, the success of the sports mostly depends on how the boxers, the people involve especially the promoter will comply with the specific guidelines to be given by the government, so since they are into money, they will surely protect their interest by following the requirement.

You'll bet for the winner, you will win, but the odds are about are 1.01 and 1.10.. I not gonna take that, if there's a handicap, maybe that would attract me.

we are in early June now but there seems to be nothing following good about boxing that he promised.aside from that there will be a Manny Pacquiao's fight coming but not happening this June?

well at least there is a shine about Boxing or sports betting soon to happen.


Oh i miss this part,when will this be happening?are these fight are up for June mate?

Everything will be cleared on June 9, when we have the first live Jr lightweights boxing match between Shakur Stevenson vs Felix Caraballo

We will see how the match goes without the crowd.  :)

I have no background for most of these boxers but what do you say guys? What match fight you're keeping an eye for these?
And if it's possible, who's your choice for those match ups? I'm ok for only just 1 fight and if you can give some ideas and prospects for the said match regarding both parties.
I'd be happy to read your thoughts.

I did bet on Jessie Magdaleno winning the fight, not that huge amount though. Just enough to get the fire inside of me to bet on boxing again in this new norm and see how the process will go after. Yes, we need this test fights in order to ensure success in the future as Arum needs to see area for improvement here. So definitely, this is very interesting outcome for boxing fans.

I'm interested to witness the success of the first fight, we can update in this thread once that fight happened.
This is just the beginning of the big comeback, more fight for sure will take place this year if everything will work according to plan and expectation.

Few hours from now we could already see some fights held in Las Vega and just hope that no untoward incidents happen like fighters tested positive for COVID-19 and pull out that particular fight.

https://i.imgur.com/DpW4L7b.png

Betting for Caraballo here for obvious reason, you get 15X of your bet and looking at the later's record he has higher KO percentage than that of Stevenson, who knows something might happen here as it would we crowd less so it's like they are fighting in a neutral ground.

Good luck  :)

So you took the 1.10 odds? Good luck, it looks like an easy money though but as I said, it's not my type of odds as I like to bet on bigger odds like what bisdak40 has done here.



I hope everything will went well.

The event will not be successful if there are people tested positive, and we don't know yet if people will really come, some of them are careful now and they prefer to just watch the fight at home.

Shakur Stevenson was too much for Felix Caraballo as the former stops him in the 6th round of their 10-round non title fight in Las Vegas.

https://www.boxingscene.com/shakur-stevenson-beats-down-stops-felix-caraballo-results--149406

Interesting to note on this card that Robeisy Ramirez also won against Yeuri Andujar via first round stoppage. Ramirez was the one who beat Stevenson on their showdown in the finals of the 2016 Olympic Games. These two fighters might cross path in pro boxing in the near future.

IMO, the first act of Bob Arum was successful, kudos to him for making boxing up on it's feet on this time of pandemic.

Next card will be on June 11, 2020 and it will feature Jessie Magdaleno and Vicente Yenifel on the main event.

It is to be expected that Stevenson should win this fight against Caraballo.

I'm not sold on the Ramirez vs Stevenson though, yes Ramirez won the gold in 2016 Olympics, but his debut on pro rank was a lost. So there's no more hype on Ramirez, unless he build a good resume before he can face Stevenson because Shakur is the most hype boxer between the two and even compared to Floyd Mayweather.

But I do agree that we should give props to Arum, for staging this one. I'm sure they see some area that needs to be improved. I'm excited to see Magdaleno next, - June 11 or 12, depending on your location.

Expected but not guaranteed otherwise there will be no more betting on that fight  :).


For me, there is always hype on that one considering that Stevenson is the top dog on the featherweight now and Ramirez being the one who have beaten him that means the later has his numbers. In boxing "style makes fight" so maybe the style of Ramirez would give Stevenson some problems. Before their match-up could happen, Ramirez should also do his part, win convincingly every time he fights so when the time comes for him to face Stevenson, marketing him would not be a problem anymore.

Yes, too accurate, that body shot is beautiful.  :)


I also wanted to see this fight in pro. I'm sure Stevenson wanted to show who really deserves the gold medal in 2016 games if they rematch as a pro boxer now.


I was looking for inputs from boxing analyst regarding this fight. So far I haven't seen any negative press, so for now we can call this a successful event.

We have a few fights this Saturday but the odds are shitty as hell and that is the biggest difference between MMA and Boxing as you will get to fight lesser talented fighters against upcoming talents and until you raise good number of victories under their bag against easier opponents and then they will think about fighting tougher opponents and once that is the situation you cannot expect good odds nor interesting fights. 

The odds might not good for the heavy favorite, but a good sportbook would always put a handicap betting so we can choose a good odds for the value of our money, taking 1.50 up is good for me, but 1.10 to 1.30 seems not, even if I believe a certain boxer will win.

Just the odds though, it seems that bookies really 'expected' that Stevenson will have an easy fight and that is what we saw.

I said that I'm not sold on Ramirez because of the strength and loss of his first fight. Anyhow, still early to say, even Vasyl Lomachenko lost his second fight against a very tough Orlando Salido. But look at Vasyl now, p4p so let's see if Ramirez has a bright future.

@7788bitcoin - yes, the next schedule fight has a shit odds, its obviously the Bob Arum just wanted to see what will be the result of boxing in this pandemic.

Anyone knows what bookies offer odds for this fight?

Interesting to see what the is the odds for this fight, Greer i think would be the favorite here but i'm betting for my countryman here as Filipino fighters are tough and unpredictable  :).

I haven't seen any crypto sportsbooks that has this game.

But there's this AU based that has the odds on it --> https://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/boxing/boxing-matches/joshua-greer-jr-v-mike-plania-5231372

They don't accept bitcoin and exclusively for Australia residents only.

I haven't gambled in this site, but maybe you can try.  :)

https://www.betfair.com/sport/boxing/boxing-matches/joshua-greer-jr-v-mike-plania/29830573

according to : https://www.americagambles.com/sports-betting/articles/betfair-bitcoin/ , they also accept bitcoin.

So here are the numbers:

Magdaleno vs Yenifel Vicente - the telecast peaked at 392,000 viewers, average 311,000 viewers
Stevenson vs Caraballo - the telecast peaked at 609,000 viewers, average at 397,000 viewer

https://www.boxingscene.com/magdaleno-vicente-espn-telecast-peaked-392k-viewers-averaged-311k--149472

I would say not bad after-all, this is just the first fight telecast live in this pandemic, just imagine if these are top tier fighters, I'm sure it can go as high as 1 million viewers on average.

I already make bets in boxing but that games are the games of the people champ Manny Pacquiao. I am really not a fan boxing. I do not watch every Filipino that fights boxing but I was inspired how good he is on that profession so I do watch and ofcourse bet on his games. Unlike in basketball, my bet is pure money.

When did you put your bet on Manny Pacquiao, he has no active fight yet, the one with the GGG fight was just an speculation, it wasn't scheduled yet.


Basketball is not back yet, both local and NBA, but they will be back soon, I can feel it, so get ready with that bets as it's gonna be more exciting when they resume as it's gonna be a different basketball.

Yeah, not bad at all. Just curious if Top Rank did profit on those fights or it's just a gimme by Bob Arum to the followers of the sweet science.

For top tier fighters, IMO they will wait until audience could watch to generate more revenue from the gate.

Probably he did profit, but not as expected. Worst case scenario is that he could just be break-even in this fight for all we all.


If this pandemic continues, I doubt that there will be boxing fans allowed to watch the fight. Yes, they are missing a lot of money from live gates attendance, but this is better as compare to no money generated and you are losing revenue because of no fight.

That was an alternative initiative just to let sports events to continue even at this state of pandemic. Bob Arum was really an influential personality in the world of boxing so there could really be a possibility that this idea of him to have boxing event might push through as long as there will be strict Health protocols that will be implemented.

This news is good specially for sports bettors because they can now have a chance to bet on sports events even they are staying at home. I think this will also be implemented into other sports events on which only players will be at the venue with less audience capacity or no audience at all just a live stream of the game. If that would happen then it will be a great thing because sports betting events will now take into place enabling sports bettors to play even at this pandemic.

Betting doesn't choose if you are a fan or not.

As long as you understand the sports that you are betting just like you have mentioned with boxing. You can bet.

But this time, there's no match for Pacquiao so are you willing to bet for other fighters?

Arum is good at hiding his numbers  :), he may say publicly that he didn't profit in those fights, but if you are not aware of, Arum is a practicing tax lawyer. Before becoming a boxing promoter, he served at the Justice Department under Kennedy's administration, and he is the one who prosecuted the allegedly tax evasion case of Roy Cohn, a boxing promoter, who made tons of money from the Sonny Liston and Floyd Patterson. And that open his eyes about boxing promotions.