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Economy => Reputation => Topic started by: sujonali1819 on May 18, 2020, 01:56:30 PM



Title: bitcointalk account seller.
Post by: sujonali1819 on May 18, 2020, 01:56:30 PM
What happened: This user wants to sell bitcointalk account.
User profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2643643
Ann link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5241198.0
Ann archive: http://archive.fo/uR8Ww

https://i.postimg.cc/j2PbWb3M/Screenshot-5.jpg

Selling bitcointalk account is not trustworthy and the user should be tagged for this type of untrustworthy service.


Title: Re: bitcointalk account seller.
Post by: Jawhead999 on May 18, 2020, 02:44:56 PM
Well, when I check in webcache this guy create this thread using @Prexzm telegram

Quote
Cheap price, quick sale, no hassle.

Telegram: @Prexzm
Source : https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:ZZF_PzjATvcJ:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php%3Ftopic%3D5241198.0+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=id

After I dig more about this telegram, I found 3 user connected from @YOSHIE post in the past

3 Accounts Connected:

1. kabit9 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1016028)
2. Smokey23 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2454562)
3. TucoRamirez (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1081858)  (Archived) (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=TucoRamirez)

Proof:

#Authentication Post
Type of campaign: Signature
Bitcointalk Username: kabit9
ERC20 wallet address: 0xde7b89667dc3311c45179aa6223d9592053dc4c8

http://archive.is/8XkYP

Post by: Smokey23 (http://archive.is/CLjqX)
Quote
#Proof of authentication

Bitcointalk username: Smokey23
Bitcointalk Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2454562
Campaigns Joined :  Discord, Telegram, Signature
Telegram : @prexzm
ETH Address: 0xDe7B89667dc3311c45179AA6223D9592053dc4c8

http://archive.is/CLjqX


Telegram ID: @ttt786
ERC20 address: 0xDe7B89667dc3311c45179AA6223D9592053dc4c8

http://archive.is/VPWHN

But the above user is 2 Full member and 1 Junior Member rank, not Member and Junior. What do you think?


Title: Re: bitcointalk account seller.
Post by: ChuckBuck on May 18, 2020, 02:51:05 PM
But the above user is 2 Full member and 1 Junior Member rank, not Member and Junior. What do you think?
The above accounts have received negative feedback. So I believe he will not sell them because no one wants to buy these accounts. Moreover, these accounts have received feedback from last year, meaning that he skipped them and started with other accounts. Therefore, he is selling the accounts that he operated recently, Member and Jr member are reasonable.
I have tried checking the merit of the above accounts but did not detect a connection to the new account  ::)


Title: Re: bitcointalk account seller.
Post by: Jawhead999 on May 18, 2020, 02:59:59 PM
The above accounts have received negative feedback. So I believe he will not sell them because no one wants to buy these accounts. Moreover, these accounts have received feedback from last year, meaning that he skipped them and started with other accounts. Therefore, he is selling the accounts that he operated recently, Member and Jr member are reasonable.

I guess you include @legendster in your trust list, right?  If yes it's why it displayed as -1 (negative feedback) on your account. Since I view these account on default trust,  they're clean from negative feedback in their trusted feedback. Feedback from @legendster is displayed on untrusted feedback.


Title: Re: bitcointalk account seller.
Post by: ChuckBuck on May 18, 2020, 03:16:59 PM
I guess you include @legendster in your trust list, right?  If yes it's why it displayed as -1 (negative feedback) on your account. Since I view these account on default trust,  they're clean from negative feedback in their trusted feedback. Feedback from @legendster is displayed on untrusted feedback.
Well  :D I don't include @legendster in my trus list, I don't even know who he is  ::) I have just checked the default trusted for those accounts again, it looks clean. I do not know why it is displayed as trusted feedback to me. Anyway, ignore it. More importantly, we know who needs to sell their accounts, what do we do with them? I mean for the main account, not the newbie account.


Title: Re: bitcointalk account seller.
Post by: rhomelmabini on May 18, 2020, 03:35:42 PM
I view it as well on Default Trust and they are clean.

More importantly, we know who needs to sell their accounts, what do we do with them? I mean for the main account, not the newbie account.
The user Smokey23, kabit9, and one of the accounts listed there on YOSHIE's report is more likely handled by one person and the guy I think has more accounts, he just wants to get rid of the low-level ranks.

By the way, Smokey23 and kabit9 exchange merits here: https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?from=Smokey23&to=kabit9 more like a merit abuse to me.


Title: Re: bitcointalk account seller.
Post by: sujonali1819 on May 18, 2020, 03:37:51 PM
But the above user is 2 Full member and 1 Junior Member rank, not Member and Junior. What do you think?
Good research. I did not take it so deeply. and I don't know actually what accounts the user wanted to sell.

More importantly, we know who needs to sell their accounts, what do we do with them? I mean for the main account, not the newbie account.

What do you mean by ''main account, not the newbie account''? which is the main account? If you are thinking about those 3 accounts then they should be tagged first for the cheating campaign with alt accounts.



Title: Re: bitcointalk account seller.
Post by: ChuckBuck on May 18, 2020, 03:41:52 PM
By the way, Smokey23 and kabit9 exchange merits here: https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?from=Smokey23&to=kabit9 more like a merit abuse to me.
Yes, I have seen it, but only 1- 2 merit, so I do not call it as abuse, even though it is true of abuse  :D
What do you mean by ''main account, not the newbie account''? which is the main account? If you are thinking about those 3 accounts then they should be tagged first for the cheating campaign with alt accounts.
I mean, a feedback on those accounts about selling accounts. I'm not sure, the connection is clear. Did they cheat in the same bounty campaign?


Title: Re: bitcointalk account seller.
Post by: rhomelmabini on May 18, 2020, 03:42:56 PM
What do you mean by ''main account, not the newbie account''? which is the main account? If you are thinking about those 3 accounts then they should be tagged first for the cheating campaign with alt accounts.
He means not the KarmicDemon account instead those accounts been reported by YOSHIE because they aren't tagged. Though the report (made by YOSHIE) just stated they are just connected and not like joined on the same campaign for multiple accounts or farming but on my post above the user Smokey23 and kabit9 are abusing merit, I think that worth to tag them as well as the alts.

Yes, I have seen it, but only 1- 2 merit, so I do not call it as abuse, even though it is true of abuse  :D
It's still abuse. Your alts shouldn't be merited by yourself.


Title: Re: bitcointalk account seller.
Post by: sujonali1819 on May 18, 2020, 03:56:42 PM
I mean, a feedback on those accounts about selling accounts. I'm not sure, the connection is clear. Did they cheat in the same bounty campaign?

It seems those 3 accounts also have tagged by two DT members bob123 and DireWolfM14. why you don't think it is not clear? Did not take it seriously yet or other reason?

Btw yea maybe they did not cheat in the same bounty(not sure). It was my fault and I have edited my post. Thank you.


Title: Re: bitcointalk account seller.
Post by: akhjob on May 21, 2020, 06:02:36 PM
I think feedbacks are not necessary in this case. From the LoyceV's archive (http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5423/54239773.html), it's clear that @prexzm is the telegram account used by KarmicDemon and from Yoshie's post 2 Full Member and Jr.Member accounts are connected.

So, if one of the account, TucoRamirez (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1081858) is banned, the rest of the accounts should also be banned for ban evasion.


@logfiles thanks. I stand corrected.


Title: Re: bitcointalk account seller.
Post by: logfiles on May 21, 2020, 06:15:36 PM
I think feedbacks are not necessary in this case. From the LoyceV's archive (http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5423/54239773.html), it's clear that @prexzm is the telegram account used by KarmicDemon and from Yoshie's post 2 Full Member and Jr.Member accounts are connected.

So, if one of the account, TucoRamirez (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1081858) is banned, the rest of the accounts should also be banned for ban evasion.
Sometimes mods take long to ban such accounts, or they don't eve get banned at all so negative feedback acts as a temporary solution or a remainder to other members that the account was involved in breaking a number of forum rules and so should not be trusted.

Imagine if the account owner gets to know that his account has been discovered to be evading ban, well he has nothing to lose because he knows that the account might get banned any time. What will stop him from scamming members through selling fake products or acquiring and defaulting loans?

In this case Feedbacks are more than necessary.


Title: Re: bitcointalk account seller.
Post by: bonesjonesreturns on May 22, 2020, 04:02:53 PM
What happened: This user wants to sell bitcointalk account.
User profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2643643
Ann link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5241198.0
Ann archive: http://archive.fo/uR8Ww

https://i.postimg.cc/j2PbWb3M/Screenshot-5.jpg

Selling bitcointalk account is not trustworthy and the user should be tagged for this type of untrustworthy service.

What about nutidah should he be punished for " trying " to sell his?

No DT says only successful proven sales get red tags ....if you are a DT pal anyway

He should just write " changed my mind not selling now, was an under cover agents sting pretend account sale " then tag you.
That's what these DT would do.


Title: Re: bitcointalk account seller.
Post by: legendster on July 07, 2020, 06:20:19 AM
The above accounts have received negative feedback. So I believe he will not sell them because no one wants to buy these accounts. Moreover, these accounts have received feedback from last year, meaning that he skipped them and started with other accounts. Therefore, he is selling the accounts that he operated recently, Member and Jr member are reasonable.

I guess you include @legendster in your trust list, right?  If yes it's why it displayed as -1 (negative feedback) on your account. Since I view these account on default trust,  they're clean from negative feedback in their trusted feedback. Feedback from @legendster is displayed on untrusted feedback.

Not many people include me in their trust list primarily because I am not consistently active on BTT. Although whether you trust me or not should not render the fact obsolete that this Kabit guy has over 600 accounts connected and ready for sale.

Details have been published long ago over here : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5181165.0