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Title: Bitcoin is Up by 16% Post Halving
Post by: Nevril on May 20, 2020, 10:46:07 PM
The third bitcoin halving happened on May 11 during the coronavirus chaos. But the king of crypto seems unstoppable. Despite the biggest financial trials of our time, bitcoin was able to climb by 16% since the halving took place. BTCUSD was trading at $8,436 last Monday and started an upturn, briefly touching the $10,000 mark ­– a bullish surge erasing its weekend crash. It is going up past $9,700 as of writing.

https://bitcoinist.com/bitcoin-is-up-by-16-post-halving/


Title: Re: Bitcoin is Up by 16% Post Halving
Post by: DarkDays on May 20, 2020, 10:52:46 PM
Bitcoin is actually trading at $9,500—not $9,700.

In any case, we can't say that this growth can be attributed to the halving, since Bitcoin has already been on a dramatic uptrend since at least mid-March (after getting half of its value slashed as a result of the COVID19 pandemic).

Correlation doesn't equal causation, any logical trader will realize that the halving is simply incidental at this point, it will take some time until the reduced mintage has a knock-on effect on the price action of Bitcoin. (If ever).


Title: Re: Bitcoin is Up by 16% Post Halving
Post by: GreatArkansas on May 20, 2020, 11:46:35 PM
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Correlation doesn't equal causation, any logical trader will realize that the halving is simply incidental at this point, it will take some time until the reduced mintage has a knock-on effect on the price action of Bitcoin. (If ever).
Because people think that the block halving on Bitcoin could trigger the price of Bitcoin for parabolic move.

Why? Because they are used to on previous block halvings on Bitcoin, they able to experience a huge price action for every block halving.
But what other is waiting, the pump after the block halving, like months after, not before or during the block halving.
Some people expecting it to happen around year 2021.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is Up by 16% Post Halving
Post by: Yamifoud on May 20, 2020, 11:50:20 PM
It is good to see that amid the crisis Bitcoin resistance is still rallying strong. From almost $10k a week before halving, then it drops at $8,700 during halving, and bounce back to $9,500 at this time. Felt that was a normal scheme at this time.

10%, 20% increase isn't impressive but if we could see it at 50%, people will absolutely think about Bullrun and that is what they wanted to see.
To see the impact of the pandemic in crypto, I have to say that Covid-19 is a big factor that helps the economic growth of Bitcoin during halving.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is Up by 16% Post Halving
Post by: Jawhead999 on May 21, 2020, 12:15:36 AM
IMO Bitcoin price isn't affected by halving, pump and dump is normal in cryptocurrency. Bitcoin is high volatility, the price can change around 30%/day. Many people are always expecting bitcoin will bullish after halving. I won't surprise while Bitcoin is in bullish, many journalists will create a good news by correlating the price with halving. It's not always from halving FOMO, but supply and demand in markets.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is Up by 16% Post Halving
Post by: Yaunfitda on May 21, 2020, 02:45:35 AM
We have seen some minor correction in the last 24 hours, might be attributed to the 50 BTC that has been moved. Anyhow, the point is that post-halving, we have this kind of momentum that's why we didn't see a dump right after. So it's very different scenario as compare to 2016 halving. And maybe some miners opted out because of profitability and cost. But I'm sure we can continue to grow in the next coming months and hit $10k and continue this mini bull run after halving.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is Up by 16% Post Halving
Post by: meanwords on May 21, 2020, 04:14:19 AM
IMO Bitcoin price isn't affected by halving, pump and dump is normal in cryptocurrency. Bitcoin is high volatility, the price can change around 30%/day. Many people are always expecting bitcoin will bullish after halving. I won't surprise while Bitcoin is in bullish, many journalists will create a good news by correlating the price with halving. It's not always from halving FOMO, but supply and demand in markets.

Yes, it is affected by halving because this event creates hype for the investors to talk about which will result into pump and later dump in a later date. You said it yourself, this journalist will try to hype this event as much as possible to start FOMO all over the place. I doubt it will continue though, we might see some dump later and an increase in price surpassing $12,000 in 5-6 months.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is Up by 16% Post Halving
Post by: Sanitough on May 21, 2020, 04:28:48 AM
I wasn't expecting it will be bullish after the halving TBH, but the price did really well, bitcoin was trading at $9500 now which I think is good considering price should have dump after the hype as like what we usually see in the past.

Some says the effect of the halving will be by next year, so I if that is what is going to happen, then we cannot expect a new ATH this year.


But then, it's just a prediction, anyone can make and analyze on their own but we cannot deny the fact that bitcoin will always remain unpredictable and just when people expect a dump, sometimes an opposite will happen.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is Up by 16% Post Halving
Post by: mahilchii on May 21, 2020, 04:54:40 AM
Definitely this is a great sign for the king of crypto currency, I was really disappointed after the Halving as the price of BTC didn't went up as per my prediction. However it's performing after the Halving is unbelievable, I am expecting few more pump from now and I believe BTC will keep going for few more weeks.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is Up by 16% Post Halving
Post by: carlisle1 on May 21, 2020, 05:41:45 AM
The third bitcoin halving happened on May 11 during the coronavirus chaos. But the king of crypto seems unstoppable. Despite the biggest financial trials of our time, bitcoin was able to climb by 16% since the halving took place. BTCUSD was trading at $8,436 last Monday and started an upturn, briefly touching the $10,000 mark ­– a bullish surge erasing its weekend crash. It is going up past $9,700 as of writing.

https://bitcoinist.com/bitcoin-is-up-by-16-post-halving/
Don't put all your good thoughts in this position mate because remember that there are some issues of manipulations in this market so
there may some dealings with the whales to let people feel the effect of halving and let them invest and after that they will dump the
 price so easy bagging of money again and this is happening for several times this year and last year so
 be aware and don't just put eggs in the bag.
Definitely this is a great sign for the king of crypto currency, I was really disappointed after the Halving as the price of BTC didn't went up as per my prediction. However it's performing after the Halving is unbelievable, I am expecting few more pump from now and I believe BTC will keep going for few more weeks.
Last halving of 2016 this almost same scenario that after halving the movement of prices is just moving to slow but when 2017 comes?
the market starts greening and finally Hit the highest Market capitalization ever and also the highest bitcoin price recorded.though
 bad things are also there to ruin the reputation of crypto so by all means invest with the amount
 you can afford fo lose thats the safest you can have.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is Up by 16% Post Halving
Post by: slackovic on May 21, 2020, 06:27:34 AM
The biggest difference with this third halving is that now there are BTC futures where traders can make ton of money even if the price is going down. Futures were introduced after the 2017.-2018. bull run so first two halving weren't affected by them. I'm saying this because after futures were introduced, for a futures trader it's not important where the price is going (up or down). It's important that the price is volatile. That's why it could happen that we don't see a bull run at all...


Title: Re: Bitcoin is Up by 16% Post Halving
Post by: slaman29 on May 21, 2020, 06:38:07 AM
In any case, we can't say that this growth can be attributed to the halving, since Bitcoin has already been on a dramatic uptrend since at least mid-March (after getting half of its value slashed as a result of the COVID19 pandemic).

Correlation doesn't equal causation, any logical trader will realize that the halving is simply incidental at this point, it will take some time until the reduced mintage has a knock-on effect on the price action of Bitcoin. (If ever).

I think the value slash was just a knock on effect from the traditional markets panic, which yes, was triggered by the COVID announcement from WHO, but the wounds were there for a long time already. WHO just ripped off the bandages and exposed how bad it was.

What isn't incidental from halving is miners dropping off, which we all expected, and difficult dropping, also expected. Now we wait to see if miners really going to sit and hoard.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is Up by 16% Post Halving
Post by: Wexnident on May 21, 2020, 06:56:23 AM
Yea no need to relate it to halving too much. One is that it's too early to actually see anything quite noteworthy, and two, there are quite a lot of factors out there that could affect the market price, not just the halving. There was a recent movement of 50BTC out there and there's actually a thread talking about that here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5249898.0). Besides, you can also attribute it to the natural movement of the market especially with the crash that happened a few months back. It suddenly returned to $9k and above which of course retraced itself back to around $8k. Now after a few days, you could say that it naturally moved up, making it for quite a natural movement of bullish momentum.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is Up by 16% Post Halving
Post by: bitbunnny on May 21, 2020, 07:08:55 AM
So, basicly there is no.significant growth caused by halving.
This percentage isn't much and I'm not so sure that this 16% rise is actually the direct consequence of halving because even before that the price was slightly rising.
We'll see what happens next but I don't expect some big post halving impact and price will probably stay in current range.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is Up by 16% Post Halving
Post by: salamat700 on May 21, 2020, 07:23:24 AM
The third bitcoin halving happened on May 11 during the coronavirus chaos. But the king of crypto seems unstoppable. Despite the biggest financial trials of our time, bitcoin was able to climb by 16% since the halving took place. BTCUSD was trading at $8,436 last Monday and started an upturn, briefly touching the $10,000 mark ­– a bullish surge erasing its weekend crash. It is going up past $9,700 as of writing.

Notwithstanding the fact that Bitcoin remains a far cry from its ATH, considering the many things that transpired and still happening right now with the global economy, I would say that this is still a big good news post-halving scenario. I am sure that many of us are expecting that Bitcoin will be surging slowly beyond the $10,000 level soon. Compared to other assets, Bitcoin is doing good and I am hoping that the same direction can be true when we are heading into the end of 2020 and the coming of 2021.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is Up by 16% Post Halving
Post by: Cnut237 on May 21, 2020, 07:30:20 AM
It's difficult to attribute the rise to halving. COVID-19 casts a huge shadow over the markets at the moment. We had that huge initial drop, and we've been on a slow but steady recovery since that first market shock. I'm not convinced that we can argue that recent price rises are due to halving. It's not the most important price driver at the moment.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is Up by 16% Post Halving
Post by: kryptqnick on May 21, 2020, 03:19:25 PM
It's difficult to attribute the rise to halving. COVID-19 casts a huge shadow over the markets at the moment. We had that huge initial drop, and we've been on a slow but steady recovery since that first market shock. I'm not convinced that we can argue that recent price rises are due to halving. It's not the most important price driver at the moment.
I think you're right. When the price want down, it seemed obvious that the main reason was the WHO declaring the pandemic. That was a sudden huge change of the price. What's happening these days looks more like fluctuations, nothing out of the ordinary. If we're talking about determining whether something was the primary cause behind the change, we can try answering the question: was this likely to happen without the cause we are assessing? Were these price fluctuations likely to happen without halving? I think they were because they are not that significant.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is Up by 16% Post Halving
Post by: ranochigo on May 21, 2020, 03:28:47 PM
The price doesn't seem to have a huge impact on the price (other than the drop hours after halving). Remember, Bitcoin was already trading at ~$10000 before the covid19 pandemic. If anything, the gradual increase in prices in the recent weeks is just an indication of Bitcoin making the recovery to it's pre-pandemic prices. In addition, the price was already at an upward trajectory prior to the halving, halving doesn't seem to have too much of an impact on the price, at least as of yet.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is Up by 16% Post Halving
Post by: gantez on May 21, 2020, 03:46:37 PM
The halving would push price up eventually. It is gradually trying to break out as the future looks bright for this. Economic recovery and more dollar influx in the market will be a plus to bitcoin increase. I'm looking at chart and this seem a good outlook from what I'm seeing.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is Up by 16% Post Halving
Post by: The Cryptovator on May 21, 2020, 04:18:41 PM
To be honest, Halving didn't effect much on bitcoin price and we had encountered little dump exactly before Halving. Most probably its happen due to current pandemic. But we have seen bump after Halving, but these price isn't countable since bitcoin always showing same volatility. Its seems bitcoin failed to break $10K zone multiple times which is most important zone to consider another bull run. Currently price trend isn't seems to bull and we have seen sudden dump right now. I am not expecting any bulls before overcome covid-19.

The halving would push price up eventually.
Seems to me unrealistic expectations, how you expect that since Halving already done? And look at on price trend, this is just normal behaviour of bitcoin, nothing else.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is Up by 16% Post Halving
Post by: Sanugarid on May 21, 2020, 04:46:13 PM
So, basicly there is no.significant growth caused by halving.
This percentage isn't much and I'm not so sure that this 16% rise is actually the direct consequence of halving because even before that the price was slightly rising.
We cannot conclude anything, but for the price to reach $10K last week I guess there is quite an impact made by the halving event, it is just that things happened is not on what we expected to be, speculations are high before the halving, some says that it will fall, some says that it will rise but then the price stays at a very short range. We should have put consideration to the halving that the price of bitcoin was not as it was 8 or 4 years ago coz people based their assumptions historically which gives nothing at all.

We'll see what happens next but I don't expect some big post halving impact and price will probably stay in current range.
The price of bitcoin just feel down from $9800 to $9000, I noticed it when happens that there is a high liquidation on several exchanges especially with Bitmex futures trading. And as we all know there has been some movements early blocks that most of us that Satoshi is alive. But it does not conclude anything tho.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is Up by 16% Post Halving
Post by: hahay on May 21, 2020, 05:33:45 PM
But the increase is still inconsistent because of the negative sentiments that occur making prices continue to decline day by day. Movement in this market is still very unpredictable despite three halving events, but anyway, this market will not return to zero just because there is a pandemic event that is very bad because the recovery will definitely happen and we just need to be patient and not need to panic with the crashes that occur.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is Up by 16% Post Halving
Post by: snipie on May 21, 2020, 05:49:34 PM
But the increase is still inconsistent because of the negative sentiments that occur making prices continue to decline day by day. Movement in this market is still very unpredictable despite three halving events, but anyway, this market will not return to zero just because there is a pandemic event that is very bad because the recovery will definitely happen and we just need to be patient and not need to panic with the crashes that occur.
Indeed. I don't feel that the current bitcoin price level is solid enough. Maintaining +9k is still difficult with people pushing to sell and making profits. ~$9,050 for the moment which is approximately $500-700 drop from what used to be, well volatility sure but I have a bad feeling, hope i am wrong!


Title: Re: Bitcoin is Up by 16% Post Halving
Post by: rexxarofmoknathal on May 21, 2020, 06:08:18 PM
Might want to check it again, Bitcoin is now trading at around $9000 after collapsing by $400 earlier today.

I think there's a lot of room still left for further losses, but I don't imagine we'll continue spiralling for more than a couple months or so.

It's playing out exactly the same as the last halving. Brief pump before, flatline, then dump (today).... The only next step is another huge pump, similar to that seen in 2017, but that might take a couple years.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is Up by 16% Post Halving
Post by: Haunebu on May 21, 2020, 06:12:30 PM
but anyway, this market will not return to zero just because there is a pandemic event that is very bad because the recovery will definitely happen and we just need to be patient and not need to panic with the crashes that occur.
Zero? I feel that is an impossible scenario. The only way this can actually happen is if all traders convert their cryptocurrencies into FIAT or if the whole world loses access to the internet permanently.

It's playing out exactly the same as the last halving. Brief pump before, flatline, then dump (today).... The only next step is another huge pump, similar to that seen in 2017, but that might take a couple years.
Couple years? Doubt it. I think that the huge pump that you are talking about will probably happen sometime next year itself when this entire COVID situation is neutralized. The price will probably soar to a new ATH.