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Title: 🃏💵 Seeking Investors/Partners for new Bitcoin Blackjack Casino 💵🃏
Post by: bitgaming on May 21, 2020, 07:58:52 PM
I would like to start a casino blackjack website. I have developed the game and the Bitcoin functionality already. It is %100 ready and functioning. I have tested the Bitcoin parts with test and real bitcoins.

I am looking for people who would be interested in investing Bitcoin in my game in return for a share of the house.

The address to the game is: http://nan.sf.net/bj (http://nan.sf.net/bj) (I haven't registered a domain yet but if someone wants to partner-up with me and buy a domain I could make that work.)

I have already implemented the feature which allows people to invest in the game, which I call "buying a percentage of the house value". This could potentially make money for a person. Here is how it works:

Invest in the game

You may invest in the game (house value) by buying a percentage of the house value. You could make money if the house value goes up.

Example: The house value is currently $15000. You invest (buy) $5000, and the house value becomes $20000, and you own %25 of the house value (because $5000 is %25 of $20000.) The house value grows to $25000 over time from people playing the game, and your ownership grows from $5000 to $6250. You would be able to withdraw up to %25 or $6250 of the $25000.

You buy $5000 more of game share, the new house value becomes $30000. Your new ownership percentage will be recalculated with the following formula:

New ownership share = ( old ownership share * old house value + bought amount ) / new house value

Your new ownership will become %37.5 of the $30000 house value.

You will be able to sell up to %37.5 or $11250 of the house value. You decide to sell $5625. Your new ownership percentage will be recalculated with the following formula:

New ownership share = ( old ownership share * old house value - sold amount ) / old house value

Your new ownership will become %18.75 of the new $20875 house value.


Title: Re: 🃏💵 Seeking Investors/Partners for new Bitcoin Blackjack Casino 💵🃏
Post by: adzino on May 21, 2020, 09:45:34 PM
I would like to start a casino blackjack website. I have developed the game and the Bitcoin functionality already. It is %100 ready and functioning. I have tested the Bitcoin parts with test and real bitcoins.

I am looking for people who would be interested in investing Bitcoin in my game in return for a share of the house.

The address to the game is: http://nan.sf.net/bj (http://nan.sf.net/bj) (I haven't registered a domain yet but if someone wants to partner-up with me and buy a domain I could make that work.)

I have already implemented the feature which allows people to invest in the game, which I call "buying a percentage of the house value". This could potentially make money for a person. Here is how it works:

Invest in the game

You may invest in the game (house value) by buying a percentage of the house value. You could make money if the house value goes up.

Example: The house value is currently $15000. You invest (buy) $5000, and the house value becomes $20000, and you own %25 of the house value (because $5000 is %25 of $20000.) The house value grows to $25000 over time from people playing the game, and your ownership grows from $5000 to $6250. You would be able to withdraw up to %25 or $6250 of the $25000.

You buy $5000 more of game share, the new house value becomes $30000. Your new ownership percentage will be recalculated with the following formula:

New ownership share = ( old ownership share * old house value + bought amount ) / new house value

Your new ownership will become %37.5 of the $30000 house value.

You will be able to sell up to %37.5 or $11250 of the house value. You decide to sell $5625. Your new ownership percentage will be recalculated with the following formula:

New ownership share = ( old ownership share * old house value - sold amount ) / old house value

Your new ownership will become %18.75 of the new $20875 house value.
Build the whole casino first. The design looks awful, i mean no graphics, all text! You can't expect investors running after a half completed casino (now don't tell me that its complete and this is how it looks!). Run the casino with your own funds first. No one would be stupid enough to risk their money and start a partnership with a random person who he met on the internet for the first time. I mean you could just run away with all the money.. just saying  ::).


Title: Re: 🃏💵 Seeking Investors/Partners for new Bitcoin Blackjack Casino 💵🃏
Post by: btcltcdigger on May 21, 2020, 09:49:07 PM
I'm always looking for investment opportunities, but franky what you're offering doesn't seem like something i'd consider.
Even if the design was good, you'd need to go a long way to get someone to put some money in


Title: Re: 🃏💵 Seeking Investors/Partners for new Bitcoin Blackjack Casino 💵🃏
Post by: ChuckBuck on May 22, 2020, 04:56:06 AM
https://i.imgur.com/d0ZdMRi.png
Looking at it  ::) Your website looks awful, it's a basic website that any apprentice programmer can design. I don't see any basis for me or someone to trust and invest thousands of dollars in your website. You should do better if you want anyone invest, think about how bad it is  ::) I could even design such a site within a day even though I'm not a designer  ::)


Title: Re: 🃏💵 Seeking Investors/Partners for new Bitcoin Blackjack Casino 💵🃏
Post by: rhomelmabini on May 22, 2020, 05:25:04 AM
Try to move this thread on Project Development board I think you'll get ample ideas and even investors/partners there. I know this is gambling related but IMO this do belong on that thread.


Title: Re: 🃏💵 Seeking Investors/Partners for new Bitcoin Blackjack Casino 💵🃏
Post by: acroman08 on May 22, 2020, 05:38:46 AM
are you gonna update the UI on your website or is that the final design? if you want to attract investor you should make your website, ideas, plan etc.. more interesting. otherwise, no investor will be interested in it.


https://i.imgur.com/d0ZdMRi.png
Looking at it  ::) Your website looks awful, it's a basic website that any apprentice programmer can design. I don't see any basis for me or someone to trust and invest thousands of dollars in your website. You should do better if you want anyone invest, think about how bad it is  ::) I could even design such a site within a day even though I'm not a designer  ::)

I remember creating an HTML website in high school for a TLE(Technology and Livelihood Education) project and it looks better than that and that was 10 years ago


Title: Re: 🃏💵 Seeking Investors/Partners for new Bitcoin Blackjack Casino 💵🃏
Post by: nakamura12 on May 22, 2020, 08:19:52 AM
It would be hard to attract investors if your platform is not attractive. Like ths previous post stated that you should complete your site before attracting investors and gamblers in your site to start with. Many casino owners have done that and even if some have done it they still have some delays looking for investors for their platform.


Title: Re: 🃏💵 Seeking Investors/Partners for new Bitcoin Blackjack Casino 💵🃏
Post by: ChuckBuck on May 22, 2020, 06:03:29 PM
I remember creating an HTML website in high school for a TLE(Technology and Livelihood Education) project and it looks better than that and that was 10 years ago
It is why I said that I could complete such a site within 1 day. It is basic HTML. Even non-programmers or designers can create an interface in a short time thanks to common knowledge. And this guy brought those bad things here to call for investment  ::) It seems that he is quite confident about what he has done  :D LoL


Title: Re: 🃏💵 Seeking Investors/Partners for new Bitcoin Blackjack Casino 💵🃏
Post by: blockman on May 22, 2020, 06:07:49 PM
I'm hesitant to click that link of yours and thanks to those guys that posted what op site looks like. @OP you need to have the initiative of buying the domain and making the actual casino first before asking for investors. That's not how you propose a project mostly if it's a casino. Don't be like those ICO that doesn't have the actual product and then asks for investors. I guess that's all you need to do first so that the investors can see that you have the casino working and that can attract gamblers than investors.


Title: Re: 🃏💵 Seeking Investors/Partners for new Bitcoin Blackjack Casino 💵🃏
Post by: harizen on May 22, 2020, 07:03:32 PM
I would like to start a casino blackjack website. I have developed the game and the Bitcoin functionality already. It is %100 ready and functioning. I have tested the Bitcoin parts with test and real bitcoins.

If you are looking for investors, you must give them reasons why they should partner with you.

The crypto-gambling world is so vast and the competition is tough that even for a new site with stunning design, large bankroll, good customer support, awesome bonuses, and promotions or anything that gamblers want, are struggling to cope up with the big ones.

Not judging your book by its cover but no investors will likely risk some money for that kind of layout that you want to goes live.

But I see that you have knowledge related about building a gambling site and some concepts of it so like mentioned above, try to look for partners at the Project Development (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=12.0) section of the forum. And before going live, change the layout. You can't attract users with that kind of layout.


Title: Re: 🃏💵 Seeking Investors/Partners for new Bitcoin Blackjack Casino 💵🃏
Post by: nakamura12 on May 22, 2020, 07:05:13 PM
I'm hesitant to click that link of yours and thanks to those guys that posted what op site looks like. @OP you need to have the initiative of buying the domain and making the actual casino first before asking for investors. That's not how you propose a project mostly if it's a casino. Don't be like those ICO that doesn't have the actual product and then asks for investors. I guess that's all you need to do first so that the investors can see that you have the casino working and that can attract gamblers than investors.
Let's wait for op to reply and see if op agree to do what many people have suggested. Many investors won't find it good to invest on a site where when you look at the site it will make you think that it is not the best idea to invest in such platform and would only find another platform that they can invest.


Title: Re: 🃏💵 Seeking Investors/Partners for new Bitcoin Blackjack Casino 💵🃏
Post by: stomachgrowls on May 22, 2020, 07:51:49 PM

I remember creating an HTML website in high school for a TLE(Technology and Livelihood Education) project and it looks better than that and that was 10 years ago

This was just like my first attempt activity on our Computer subject class on where the topic starts with HTML.  ;D I cant even see any CSS or styling in this one. @OP you should go back and try to reconstruct everything
and you should at least put up some time or efforts on building your website first before asking for investors or partners.

No one would be that dumb to shell out some funds into this garbage.Sorry for the harsh words but this is just based on what i have seen.

Its not bad to try but you should at least be serious because people arent kids that can easily be attracted on a basic website.


Title: Re: 🃏💵 Seeking Investors/Partners for new Bitcoin Blackjack Casino 💵🃏
Post by: bitgaming on May 22, 2020, 10:00:55 PM
Hi everybody thank you for the responses.

In regards to the simple design: I have seen some websites on this form with great designs but their functionality is incomplete. The people who test those websites complain that some things aren't working, the bitcoins are not transacting, and other functional problems. my website is the opposite. I'm a very experienced programmer and I've tested my website a lot. I'm more concerned about having it work correctly then the design. The design can come later after I found a partner who would be interested in maybe investing some money to get a professional web designer.

What does my site offer that others don't offer?

My site has a interface that runs fast on all mobile devices. it also allows people to play in multiplayer mode with other people on the site. I've tried some other blackjack websites online and they take forever to load. A lot of the sites I tried I got tired of the site to load and I canceled it. Some of the sites I couldn't even use because they take up to a minute to load all the graphics. My sight was build with a speed in mind, so that it loads quickly. That was one of the main goals of the site is to load quickly and work on all devices. That's one of the reasons to design is so simple.

I know some casinos offer this, but they take forever to load. One of the main attractions of my site is that guests can play instantly with other guests without having it love forever. It also allows free multiplayer gaming. I haven't seen a blackjack site that does fast loading, multiplayer, and free at the same time.

adzino - I understand the design is amateur. I have improved it a little bit. In regards to me running away with the money - I have over a decade of experience working at corporations. I'm a very corporate-minded individual. My plan is to make my site a business which could or could not generate profits. if I run away with the money than my reputation is ruined and I wouldn't have any luck in the future with creating a business. I have never ran away with anyone's money before. That's my word.

btcltcdigger - thanks for the response. My offer is to create a business which other people can invest in as if it was a publicly traded company on the stock market.

ChuckBuck - thanks for the screenshot. I forgot to set a maximum wides on paragraphs in CSS. My monitor isn't that wide so I didn't even see that problem when developing. I fixed this design flaw.

rhomelmabini - thanks for the suggestion. I will try to move this thread to the project development forum.

acroman08 - I will improve the design even more once I get more interest in this project, or more people start playing it. it's not a bitcoin-only casino, you can also play for free. So if I get more free players then I will update the design a little bit more.



Title: Re: 🃏💵 Seeking Investors/Partners for new Bitcoin Blackjack Casino 💵🃏
Post by: acroman08 on May 23, 2020, 03:21:35 AM
acroman08 - I will improve the design even more once I get more interest in this project, or more people start playing it. it's not a bitcoin-only casino, you can also play for free. So if I get more free players then I will update the design a little bit more.

why wait for people to start playing or get when you get more interest in the project. just by saying those two, it implies that you are not that dedicated and just half-assing the project. although I agree that the functionality(that includes security, provably fair etc..) should be prioritized but you have to make it attractive for investors which what the design does. anyway, good luck with your project.


Title: Re: 🃏💵 Seeking Investors/Partners for new Bitcoin Blackjack Casino 💵🃏
Post by: Bitinity on May 23, 2020, 04:39:24 AM
acroman08 - I will improve the design even more once I get more interest in this project, or more people start playing it. it's not a bitcoin-only casino, you can also play for free. So if I get more free players then I will update the design a little bit more.

why wait for people to start playing or get when you get more interest in the project. just by saying those two, it implies that you are not that dedicated and just half-assing the project. although I agree that the functionality(that includes security, provably fair etc..) should be prioritized but you have to make it attractive for investors which what the design does. anyway, good luck with your project.

Good point. Design is like the main first thing to attract players to come for the first time. If the design is bad or looks amateur, players and investors will not be attracted to play/invest even to register. I'm confused with the logic of OP, how can he expect to get more players while most players wont be interested on the project due to its amateur design? There is a saying "dont judge a book by its cover", frankly speaking I do not really agree with that saying since many people still looking at its cover first before they decide to read the book or not. Same case with this project, the design is the cover that should be attractive enough to make people come and play.


Title: Re: 🃏💵 Seeking Investors/Partners for new Bitcoin Blackjack Casino 💵🃏
Post by: hd49728 on May 23, 2020, 05:05:20 AM
Two components to start off a successful casino:
- Good graphic design: help your casino more attractive to visitors/ guests.
- Provably fair: experienced and skillful gamblers will not participate in and play on the casino that is not provably fair.

Building up two things first, and operate your business to build up its reputation, then you can ask for investment from community.

Good luck.


Title: Re: 🃏💵 Seeking Investors/Partners for new Bitcoin Blackjack Casino 💵🃏
Post by: stomachgrowls on May 23, 2020, 05:28:09 AM

What does my site offer that others don't offer?

My site has a interface that runs fast on all mobile devices. it also allows people to play in multiplayer mode with other people on the site. I've tried some other blackjack websites online and they take forever to load. A lot of the sites I tried I got tired of the site to load and I canceled it. Some of the sites I couldn't even use because they take up to a minute to load all the graphics. My sight was build with a speed in mind, so that it loads quickly. That was one of the main goals of the site is to load quickly and work on all devices. That's one of the reasons to design is so simple.


Seems like you've missed out my comment. ;D

Can you please mention on what are those blackjack sites that you have tried to use and doesnt load or have slow response and even do failed up with some transactions? Yeah being simple isnt bad but not as generic as this.You will surely get no users if you do just have this design and only concerns about functionality.

I'll tell you a recent blackjack site that had been launched and doesnt load slow and having a decent design. Check it out https://blackjack.fun/

You should at least consider to compete with this one.Good luck!


Title: Re: 🃏💵 Seeking Investors/Partners for new Bitcoin Blackjack Casino 💵🃏
Post by: jademaxsuy on May 23, 2020, 08:00:08 PM

What does my site offer that others don't offer?

My site has a interface that runs fast on all mobile devices. it also allows people to play in multiplayer mode with other people on the site. I've tried some other blackjack websites online and they take forever to load. A lot of the sites I tried I got tired of the site to load and I canceled it. Some of the sites I couldn't even use because they take up to a minute to load all the graphics. My sight was build with a speed in mind, so that it loads quickly. That was one of the main goals of the site is to load quickly and work on all devices. That's one of the reasons to design is so simple.


Seems like you've missed out my comment. ;D

Can you please mention on what are those blackjack sites that you have tried to use and doesnt load or have slow response and even do failed up with some transactions? Yeah being simple isnt bad but not as generic as this.You will surely get no users if you do just have this design and only concerns about functionality.

I'll tell you a recent blackjack site that had been launched and doesnt load slow and having a decent design. Check it out https://blackjack.fun/

You should at least consider to compete with this one.Good luck!
If i'm an investor I would trust this one and decide not to invest. There far more important things that your platform must have for example, the security of your platform if the investor's investment is safe. There are some sites that even if their site is much better than yours they even got hacked.


Title: Re: 🃏💵 Seeking Investors/Partners for new Bitcoin Blackjack Casino 💵🃏
Post by: yannik.biz on May 23, 2020, 08:12:23 PM
do some css deisgn on your website and you will find investors XD


Title: Re: 🃏💵 Seeking Investors/Partners for new Bitcoin Blackjack Casino 💵🃏
Post by: Chikito on May 24, 2020, 10:56:21 AM
A lot of the sites I tried I got tired of the site to load and I canceled it. Some of the sites I couldn't even use because they take up to a minute to load all the graphics. My sight was build with a speed in mind, so that it loads quickly. That was one of the main goals of the site is to load quickly and work on all devices. That's one of the reasons to design is so simple.
That's all about the server, it's not about design or simple site you made. if you have a good server, your site might be going smoothly whatever your design. and yes, I know it will spend a lot of money to rent it, but this your purpose of making this thread, right?


Title: Re: 🃏💵 Seeking Investors/Partners for new Bitcoin Blackjack Casino 💵🃏
Post by: blockman on May 24, 2020, 02:51:51 PM
I'm hesitant to click that link of yours and thanks to those guys that posted what op site looks like. @OP you need to have the initiative of buying the domain and making the actual casino first before asking for investors. That's not how you propose a project mostly if it's a casino. Don't be like those ICO that doesn't have the actual product and then asks for investors. I guess that's all you need to do first so that the investors can see that you have the casino working and that can attract gamblers than investors.
Let's wait for op to reply and see if op agree to do what many people have suggested. Many investors won't find it good to invest on a site where when you look at the site it will make you think that it is not the best idea to invest in such platform and would only find another platform that they can invest.
OP already replied and said his thoughts about the suggestions. I guess he knows what he does but as usual, to approach investors you really have to make it happen and saw something that they will be interested with. He's pointing to how slow most of the black jack sites are but I don't think that's the thing that he should focus with. There's a lot of things a new black jack casino should do and that's just the second priority but if that's what he thinks, we'll see where it goes.


Title: Re: 🃏💵 Seeking Investors/Partners for new Bitcoin Blackjack Casino 💵🃏
Post by: kryptqnick on May 24, 2020, 03:45:44 PM
are you gonna update the UI on your website or is that the final design? if you want to attract investor you should make your website, ideas, plan etc.. more interesting. otherwise, no investor will be interested in it.


https://i.imgur.com/d0ZdMRi.png
Looking at it  ::) Your website looks awful, it's a basic website that any apprentice programmer can design. I don't see any basis for me or someone to trust and invest thousands of dollars in your website. You should do better if you want anyone invest, think about how bad it is  ::) I could even design such a site within a day even though I'm not a designer  ::)

I remember creating an HTML website in high school for a TLE(Technology and Livelihood Education) project and it looks better than that and that was 10 years ago
Yes, it reminds me of my web-design school classes, but even there what we did looked better. I don't anyone would seriously consider investing in something like this.
But op, there's another important point to consider. Namely, even if your website looked great and worked smoothly, there are so many casinos appearing and disappearing every day that there's an extremely low chance of your casino not becoming one of those. I don't know the whole list of stuff required for a casino to succeed nowadays, but lots of money put into it is definitely one of those things.  Good luck, op!