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Economy => Trading Discussion => Topic started by: yarlungzangbo on May 25, 2020, 01:04:49 AM



Title: A research about Grayscale,Why are they buying so many bitcoins?
Post by: yarlungzangbo on May 25, 2020, 01:04:49 AM
Recently, many reports are about Grayscale(GBTC), many people says that GBTC bought large amount of bitcoins, it means the fund in wallstreet are interested in Bitcoin now.
As i know, there are some big agencies in wallstreet are really interested in Bitcoin, like a16z, Goldman Sachs, JP morgan ..etc
https://ftp.bmp.ovh/imgs/2020/05/ebfe9ade107d3626.jpg

But why GBTC are buying so many bitcoins? Seems the price of Bitcoin is too high for a new buyer.
https://ftp.bmp.ovh/imgs/2020/05/7c0fb1885e960bd3.jpg
This picture was posted on GBTC offical twitter, we can know that GBTC are HODLING about 360K+ Bitcoins now, that is a big number. But something you should know that not every customers are cash deposits.
According to the report GBTC own reports , in the second and third quarters of 2019, more than 70% of private placements were made by customers using their own BTC to replace GBTC shares, and less than 30% of them were cash deposits.
Seems some people are tring to do arbitrage transaction but not hold BTC.How did they do?

https://ftp.bmp.ovh/imgs/2020/05/14b6d7acf7dbe1e7.jpg
We know Genesis Capital have lots of cooperations with Grayscale, and Genesis is doing buisness for crypto lending. The picture shows that the loan amount in Genesis are growing well.

Let me imagine:
Compared with the advantages of holding real bitcoin and the needs of users, GBTC has maintained a large premium.If the agency borrows BTC to participate in the private placement of GBTC in the primary market and waiting for 6month then they sell bitcoin in the market, and then buy BTC to repay the loan, the premium of GBTC share over BTC is the profit part. As we know, compared with the premium of GBTC, the interest of BTC borrowed is much lower. Although there is a six-month waiting time for this operation, as long as is still have premium , that would be a nice return with 0 RISK.

Or, they can buy BTC from spot, get GBTC share from deposit, and open short hedging with futures. After GBTC was unlocked, they sell it to market the close the futures position , that would be a wonderful arbitraged trade.


So i think something are clearly, maybe agencies are more interested in Bitcoin than before, but it doesn't means they want to buy it now. Everyone want to buy at a low price.
We need to chill while lots of reports are rendering the story. Bitcoin will be the most strong assets, but there is a long long way to go

Good luck to every bitcoiner. :)


Title: Re: A research about Grayscale,Why are they buying so many bitcoins?
Post by: yarlungzangbo on May 27, 2020, 05:41:55 AM
WE need to discuss about this thread, because it may effect people's long term hodling . ;D


Title: Re: A research about Grayscale,Why are they buying so many bitcoins?
Post by: slaman29 on May 27, 2020, 07:04:27 AM
If I'm not mistaken, they were also in the news a month before that (or Galaxy Digital maybe) about them being the biggest buyer of Ethereums, also about more than half of the total supply mined since 2020. Big guys buying and hoarding not sure I'm comfortable about that.

Those names mentioned as interested in Bitcoin by the way already bought since 2017 and are buying more as this is the dip;)


Title: Re: A research about Grayscale,Why are they buying so many bitcoins?
Post by: yarlungzangbo on May 27, 2020, 03:09:48 PM
If I'm not mistaken, they were also in the news a month before that (or Galaxy Digital maybe) about them being the biggest buyer of Ethereums, also about more than half of the total supply mined since 2020. Big guys buying and hoarding not sure I'm comfortable about that.

Those names mentioned as interested in Bitcoin by the way already bought since 2017 and are buying more as this is the dip;)

Anyway they are very helpful for promoting bitcoin to people


Title: Re: A research about Grayscale,Why are they buying so many bitcoins?
Post by: LokBTC on May 31, 2020, 11:56:53 AM
You've got a point. The same opinion from me. The only thing that I need to do is Hoddle.