Title: Possible Alt account or Merit trading, let's discuss Post by: cheater detector on May 30, 2020, 12:05:18 PM So, I found suspicious user apply in [OPEN] WOLF.BET Signature Campaign - Hero/Legendary - Up to 0.008 BTC/week! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5244041.0).
User: qory (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=412318) First, Zwei announce new slots for his campaign on Today at 10:22:04 AM https://i.ibb.co/P4t313X/suspiciouswolf-2.png (https://ibb.co/5v2tstp) Then, around 30 minutes this guy received 3 merit from randegibran (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=975765) and also 3 merit from muratsink (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=897308) https://i.ibb.co/b7rmzDv/suspiciouswolf.png (https://ibb.co/zNSxGD2) After he got enough merit, he applied on Today at 11:04:40 AM https://i.ibb.co/5spGYJ0/suspiciouswolf-3.png (https://ibb.co/wpGBJ2k) http://archive.vn/PyU8E Another proof/suspicious thing: This three user have same local board (Bahasa Indonesia) qory (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5189194.msg52656543#msg52656543), randegibran (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5201310.msg53090101#msg53090101), muratsink (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5212608.msg53494270#msg53494270) Both of merit sender to qory has got negative trust from DT and not active posting again Both of merit sender to qory is going offline after he send merit to qory https://i.ibb.co/3vdc6vB/suspiciouswolf-5.png (https://imgbb.com/) http://archive.vn/0MEAg https://i.ibb.co/Bsr8xCn/suspiciouswolf-4.png (https://imgbb.com/) http://archive.vn/cyEMf Note: I don't have 100% proof if these user is connected. I create this thread to see your thought about this suspicious thing. Title: Re: Possible Alt account or Merit trading, let's discuss Post by: Bitcoinsummoner on May 30, 2020, 12:30:45 PM Another fact.
User muratsink (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=897308) last post on: May 03, 2020, 04:27:37 AM And User randegibran (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=975765) last post on: November 26, 2019, 04:00:56 AM So these two user came online today after long gap only to give merit. Also, they both are already negatively trusted. Title: Re: Possible Alt account or Merit trading, let's discuss Post by: btc_angela on May 30, 2020, 12:39:14 PM Yeah, good catch, but I highly doubt that @Zwei will likely accept the receiver of the merit here, - qory, because of post quality.
But I agree that chances are, those two are alts and trying to push the main account to get accepted on a high paying btc paying signature campaign, but you busted them. Title: Re: Possible Alt account or Merit trading, let's discuss Post by: blue Snow on May 30, 2020, 12:40:28 PM what relationship between qory and Bitcoinist?, you archived
http://archive.vn/PyU8E#msg54528978 Title: Re: Possible Alt account or Merit trading, let's discuss Post by: Bitcoinsummoner on May 30, 2020, 12:46:06 PM what relationship between qory and Bitcoinist? They might be alter. But I think qory has copied the post of Bitcoinist and forgot to edit the username. Just noticed post has been edited:https://image.prntscr.com/image/yWzLMNy2SriwNJML9Qj6BA.png Title: Re: Possible Alt account or Merit trading, let's discuss Post by: cheater detector on May 30, 2020, 01:03:07 PM It is off topic.
I didn't say if qory and Bitcoinist are same owner. It just for my reference if I can caught them have connected things (example: address, telegram, twitter etc). And like Bitcoinsummoner said, maybe qory only copied the application from Bitcoinist. If you have the proof between qory and Bitcoinist is from same owner, you can post it Title: Re: Possible Alt account or Merit trading, let's discuss Post by: mitchr4 on May 30, 2020, 01:10:02 PM To me it does look suspicious and potentially these accounts are connected to each other. Moreover, he needed merit to join the campaign and he also got it in just minutes
Title: Re: Possible Alt account or Merit trading, let's discuss Post by: Pffrt on May 30, 2020, 01:18:24 PM Merit exchange isn't anymore a valid sign of accusing alt unless the exchange or abuse is very blatant although this one you are talking about is explicit that they are alt. You can try to further investigate their previous post history and if they are alt, they will leave some foot prints obviously.
Title: Re: Possible Alt account or Merit trading, let's discuss Post by: Bitcoinsummoner on May 30, 2020, 01:50:55 PM User: muratsink erc 20 wallet id: 0xe18e2fe9Df99E89edbCf8C345776Ed351d0a444A archive: http://archive.is/0QUlZ#selection-779.9-819.33
0.003 Ether received from 0x4397Dc426bc734dc500F90c9C7A1d72B2B7fd0B1 (https://etherscan.io/tx/0x75f297c75de02df3dff1ab7da352cb8b19433ca2ed376fc267ef3f3ad60843e8) User: randegibran erc 20 wallet id: 0xba2cbcf2ef87e02097ecf656ba88513cc3d9067a archive: http://archive.is/heLsJ#selection-1691.9-1725.65 0.003 Ether received from 0x4397Dc426bc734dc500F90c9C7A1d72B2B7fd0B1 (https://etherscan.io/tx/0x1b84f4fadb314673ec62447d389b0cc0dcea28c673fde313b8ebd5b78db38b8f) So these two accounts are 100% alter. Note: qory, muratsink and randegibran all are/were active users on Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian). Title: Re: Possible Alt account or Merit trading, let's discuss Post by: iamsheikhadil on May 31, 2020, 04:32:33 AM Good catch! You have an eagles eyes! It's frustrating to see those merits going to alts instead of posts of beginners which need more encouragement and deserve merits. It's funny they do it so openly without thinking no one can catch them lmao. But since merit trading isn't a bannable offense, they are unlikely to face consequences. But surely will end up in the ignore lists of many merit sources :D
Title: Re: Possible Alt account or Merit trading, let's discuss Post by: YOSHIE on May 31, 2020, 07:09:17 AM If I observe the eth address used by: muratsink (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=897308), (0xe18e2fe9Df99E89edbCf8C345776Ed351d0a444A), then he is connected again with the @tetyulfania account.
And vice versa if you see the Twitter that is used though @tetyulfania, he actually also has dozens of Alt accounts in this forum. Accounts Connected: Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2544574.msg51177717#msg51177717. by post: @rhomelmabini. Accounts Connected: 1. tetyulfania (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1315947) 2. ningsihdiah (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1346000) 3. tikaapriliani10 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1319932) Proof: Post by: tetyulfania (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5177945.msg52487184#msg52487184) Quote Bitcointalk username: tetyulfania Bitcointalk profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1315947 Telegram: @tetylianae Ethereum: 0xe18e2fe9Df99E89edbCf8C345776Ed351d0a444A http://archive.is/wip/8h9VA Telegram username: @muratsink ETH (ERC20) Address: 0xe18e2fe9Df99E89edbCf8C345776Ed351d0a444A http://archive.is/wip/8ASZW Proof: 12 Accounts Connected: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1158030 cahkalut https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1319932 tikaapriliani10 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1314188 ammadromadhon https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1273460 perijahat https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1320033 aditasetia123 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1363123 anng3lheart1 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1363183 boybounty21 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1513982 Contentryon https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1308283 noerainidessy https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1363157 bestcloe78 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1307726 LiaCarol1 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1303991 devinurtin112 Proof: Post by: tikaapriliani10 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2869121.msg29518457#msg29518457) Quote Twitter Link: https://twitter.com/TUlfania http://archive.is/wip/1gurZ Post by: tetyulfania (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2256879.msg24657003#msg24657003) Quote Twitter Profile Link: https://twitter.com/TUlfania username tele: @tetyulfania http://archive.is/wip/aErye Post by: ningsihdiah (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3204071.msg33361673#msg33361673) Quote Username twitter: @Tulfania Link to profile twitter: https://twitter.com/TUlfania http://archive.is/wip/SjKdJ Related Addresses: Code: Ethereum: 0xe18e2fe9Df99E89edbCf8C345776Ed351d0a444A I missed something. And more here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5205197.msg53200502#msg53200502 What's worse @muratsink was involved in the sale of accounts: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=897308 Title: Re: Possible Alt account or Merit trading, let's discuss Post by: cheater detector on May 31, 2020, 08:02:42 AM I just do quick search, these user is cheating
Telegram : @AngelsInspiring EMail : azisabdul756@gmail.com EtherScan: https://etherscan.io/token/0xc3761eb917cd790b30dad99f6cc5b4ff93c4f9ea#comment-4669148904 Belance : azisabdul756 Twitter : @ningsihdiah931 ETH Wallet : 0x3FAA2662B744eC33BBa107BdC2Fa6863f2EA672D Telegram - @arwani112 EMail - sitikhotimatun3@gmail.com EtherScan https://etherscan.io/token/0xc3761eb917cd790b30dad99f6cc5b4ff93c4f9ea#comment-4669182749 Belance - sitikhotimatun3 Twitter - @ghiez_pvj ETH Wallet - 0xc62ccE292485E3F70F9836e8Efc540FCea7992e6 So, all of his alt account from murat sink should be painted as well Since ammadromadhon is connected to muratsink and if qory is connected to muratsink, qory should be painted too since he is attempting to cheat on [BOUNTY][NO KYC] Geoma DAO | Cares for the Future | Bounty pool w/ESCROW (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5223521.0) Quote from: ammadromadhon #Proof of Authentication archived (http://archive.vn/cHEyF)Telegram Username: @AngelsInspiring Bitcointalk Username: ammadromadhon Joined Newsletter? YES Quote from: qory #Proof of Authentication archived (https://archive.vn/O9EaH)Telegram Username: qory Bitcointalk Username: @lerriniars Joined Newsletter YES Title: Re: Possible Alt account or Merit trading, let's discuss Post by: Little Mouse on May 31, 2020, 08:48:50 AM User: muratsink erc 20 wallet id: 0xe18e2fe9Df99E89edbCf8C345776Ed351d0a444A archive: http://archive.is/0QUlZ#selection-779.9-819.33 Sending ETH to other doesn't always mean they are alt. They can also be friend, or from same community or even they can exchange gas fee. It's better to accuse someone as alt only once you get they used same ETH address, or same social media etc.0.003 Ether received from 0x4397Dc426bc734dc500F90c9C7A1d72B2B7fd0B1 (https://etherscan.io/tx/0x75f297c75de02df3dff1ab7da352cb8b19433ca2ed376fc267ef3f3ad60843e8) User: randegibran erc 20 wallet id: 0xba2cbcf2ef87e02097ecf656ba88513cc3d9067a archive: http://archive.is/heLsJ#selection-1691.9-1725.65 0.003 Ether received from 0x4397Dc426bc734dc500F90c9C7A1d72B2B7fd0B1 (https://etherscan.io/tx/0x1b84f4fadb314673ec62447d389b0cc0dcea28c673fde313b8ebd5b78db38b8f) So these two accounts are 100% alter. Note: qory, muratsink and randegibran all are/were active users on Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian). Title: Re: Possible Alt account or Merit trading, let's discuss Post by: pilosopotasyo on May 31, 2020, 10:35:48 AM Sending ETH to other doesn't always mean they are alt. They can also be friend, or from same community or even they can exchange gas fee. It's better to accuse someone as alt only once you get they used same ETH address, or same social media etc. I agree I have a friend who is very active in bounty and I trade my eth to his fiat since we are of the same country. does that make me his alt, I don't think so we have so many people doing this and it should not be based on this, it's unfair. Title: Re: Possible Alt account or Merit trading, let's discuss Post by: Bitcoinsummoner on May 31, 2020, 05:49:47 PM I agree I have a friend who is very active in bounty and I trade my eth to his fiat since we are of the same country. does that make me his alt, I don't think so we have so many people doing this and it should not be based on this, it's unfair. Probably you have not other posts. I have not told alter base on only a single argument. Please read above comments too. There is no chance that they are not alter. They are obviously alter and they abuser merit system by trading merit or sending to another alt account.Title: Re: Possible Alt account or Merit trading, let's discuss Post by: khaled0111 on May 31, 2020, 06:09:15 PM Sending ETH to other doesn't always mean they are alt. They can also be friend, or from same community or even they can exchange gas fee. It's better to accuse someone as alt only once you get they used same ETH address, or same social media etc. there is nothing wrong with that and no one will be accused of cheating just because he sent coins to another member. There is nothing wrong even in having multiple accounts as long as you don't use them to cheat or to deceive others.Also, it's not a solid proof to connect accounts but when combined with other evidences then there it may raise suspicions. In this case, it's unlikely that they are just friends helping each other with gas fee : "too many coincidences to be just luck". |