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This guy spray painted "Free stuff for everyone zone" on the side of the Autozone near the police station before breaking the windows. Akin to shouting fire in a crowded movie theater.
This act sparked riots across the US destroying businesses more than the government already had during their plandemic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAnXlUfB7VI
https://www.ajc.com/rf/image_large/Pub/p11/AJC/2020/05/29/Images/umbrella%20man1.jpg

Don't you think that it's important to know who he is? He's obviously not one of the peaceful protesters. Wouldn't you think the government would want to know who he is?

In the video it shows that he walks around the back of the Autozone and cuts out as he's going toward the corner.

But what is beyond that? What building was he so quick to get to? There are only 2 buildings in that direction...Target and the police station. The front of Target was far to his right from that corner...he could have easily crossed the parking lot which would have been safer for him instead of getting stuck between the cars on the route he was taking. The only other building nearby was the police station.

Many people believe it was a police officer. This should be something the police would want to know right? Are they searching for this man?

https://i.imgur.com/lP031sG.jpg

I believe it is important to know if this person is a police officer. The US public deserves an answer. We have the Internet now. Surely someone can find out who he is.

Also, I know that the police station where this guy likely works said "oh no, that guy was working that day...in that area...but that wasn't him. He was doing something else". At least they confirmed he was doing official police business in that area that day.

Edit:
This video shows that he does walk toward Target.

Strangely enough pink shirt guy is following him, laughing when umbrella man calls him a police officer.

https://twitter.com/Kenny28356852/status/1266439048094253057

I think it is more than likely a lot of these riots have been fueled by provocateurs, and there is a well documented history of this, including by police and other 3rd party groups (The "Black Bloc" in Seattle during the WTO protests comes to mind), but in this instance I don't think there is any evidence he is a cop. His face is obscured and the only thing linking him to a police identity is his ex-wife which is clearly suspicious on its face.

I think more than likely he is affiliated with some ANTIFA type organization, as these kind of provocateur operations are standard operating procedure for them. It would also make sense they would then try to blame it on police as it fits their MO. There is other clear evidence that there are organized groups fueling these riots. Here are some other examples:

https://imgur.com/gallery/Kh8ETIh

I find it highly suspicious that not only does this start happening immediately after people start realizing the COVID lock downs were an over reaction, and they start getting lifted, but also coincide with China starting to seriously lock down on Hong Kong. Chinese state mouthpieces are even directly and openly leveraging the situation as propaganda (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/chinas-foreign-ministry-tweets-i-cant-breath-us-rivals-troll-us-over-unrest). I expect these kind of events to escalate continuously for the foreseeable future, especially up to elections, and probably escalate seriously after.

At this point I would advise everyone to be suspicious of everything as I have seen TONS of misinformation floating around fueling rage bait. This is clearly hybrid warfare, psychological warfare combined with coordinated civil unrest. This is an attack on our nation, probably by multiple organizations, and probably some state actors. We need to find a way to deescalate this quickly because it is being used as a form of war against the people of the USA.

seems the op is one of them nutters who love conspiracies backed by no info but stupid buzzworded scripts.
you can spot it when they use words like 'plandemic'
it shows the stupid kind of websites they frequent when they see certain buzzwords. and kinda reveals how stupid they are to not even be original about it.
more reason to not trust these nutters as worthy of being any kind of project manager

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anyway
yes there are alot of troll idiot groups that want to provoke other idiots to do un-civil things to bait even more stupider people to risk their own health and criminal record to cause damage/harm on even more people
you will never find out if the originating organisers of this mob mentality are government based, troll based or nongovernment organisation based.
but sometimes you do realise who profits most from these silly riots and realise who had much to gain from it.
EG when media is talking about chinese russians, mexicans .. groups involved with the black community dont get much publicity to garner donations. so seek to find any oppertunity to regain some notoriety.
EG theories that cops on furlough earn less than in active work/overtime. so provoking incidents that require active working and overtime is a nice money earner

but with that said. people need to actually read things from multiple sources and think for themselves and stop just being a mindless sheep following someone elses scripts and copying someone else.
remember to ask yourself.
are you being subtly told to do things that actually risk your health more and have the risk of giving you a criminal record if you do it.
then ask has this thing you been told actually personally affected you in the first person. or have you been swayed by emotion of others of how they believe others have been harmed to cause you to want to do something they are highlighting

then double check yourself. are you raising a concern independantly and well researched or are you just copying a brand/tag line/script someone else has said

For completeness, note that in a vid I already posted, it appears that the cop and the pink-shirt pizza guy entered the scene as a team:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtMovuimg98 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtMovuimg98)

Lol.  That is true.  They tend to work better as staff engineers ;)

That's pretty hard for a sock puppet to do...

Huh?

Actually a sock-puppeteer needs to be broadly familiar with a range of philosophies and points of view in order to maintain believable sock-puppets which serve a useful purpose.  At least if I get around to making serious use of the device my sock-puppets will at least have interesting and enlightening things to talk to 'argue' about.  Probably I'll never get around to doing such a thing until/unless it is made illegal.

Maybe you are right about the ignorance of people who use the likes of HBGary Federal (http://www.thepaepae.com/sock-puppet-army-thanks-hbgary-federal-and-aaron-barr/14470/)'s sock-puppet management software platform.

"More Bricks Appear In Advance Of Monday Demonstrations"

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/its-setup-mysteriously-staged-bricks-appear-throughout-major-protest-cities

this is 100% a democratic left wing extremists that wanted to help african americans by breaking windows and give them the stuff

Probably the government does know who he is, and who called him and who he called, and how the organized subversion of initially, naive protests actually occurred.

Of course, this means there was no random act sparking riots across the USA.

These people have now been called a "Terrorist Organization" and I hope they get what they deserve.

I mean, probably not.

I know that people are going to want to point to there being undercover actors, and the police infiltrating the protests to cause harm like this -- but do you really think they'd be able to pull this off to this caliber? Without any sort of scrutiny from AG's, internal watchdogs, a fellow cop, politicians, etc. No one wants this to turn violent, there's no reason for it.

If it was to come out, the people involved would go to jail AND lose their careers. Not worth imo.

80% of people could watch a cop briefing in the police department, watch the cops dress up like 'antifa' and stream out of the precinct, then watch the 'fights' which break out and STILL believe that such a thing is impossible.  Just like you 'squatz1'.

In fact a good number of the agent provocateurs are probably private military of the Blackwater variety.  Some are old-school 'communist-revolutionary/meth-head' types running on money from the likes of Soros/state-dept.

Lots of Sheriff's department and other 'law enforcement' personnel have trained on junkets to Israel, though I suspect that what they were actually doing in the 'Holy Land' was Epstein type stuff and Freemasonry rituals in order to ensure their continued compliance as we move into a 'new phase'.  They surely practiced up their Israeli-esque civilian killing tactical skills at home with all the new IED-proof toys they've been supplied with.

Anyway, now the chickens have come home to roost.  If more people had researched Sandy Hook then fewer people would fall for the George Floyd stagecraft.  Oh well.  Glad to be standing aside in a different venue observing how things are going down for the time being.

black supremacists want this to turn violent, to demonstrate their "power" and to mark businesses as being black owned so they won't be looted.

Conspiracy or not, is it not important to find out the identity of the white guy that sparked riots across the US?

There are a lot of people pissed off about what this one white guy did to ignite the spark.

It's pretty simple to take the picture of the guy's eyes and see that they are the same guy.

As someone did here:
https://twitter.com/Kenny28356852/status/1266439048094253057

Some guy at the police department who's salary is almost twice that of the average policeman's salary...who has been protected in the past by the police department for shooting an unarmed victim.

Perhaps it is just some random white guy...let's find out who it is. He triggered a huge hit to the US economy.

Your very twitter link, says "He had an alibi..."

I think that if we find out who exactly was under the mask of this weird guy with an umbrella and a hammer, nothing will change.

It's likely that the information that says this guy is a cop is being spread in order to further stir up a conflict between civilians and cops. 

It is important, and I don't deny it is possible it was a cop, but that is not evidence of anything, sorry that is fucking retarded.

Police force confirmed that he was working in the area at the time. Claims he was not sent out to break windows for them. That is even worse than if they had not provided the alibi. Because if it was him, that means it was under orders, not just him going rogue.

Had there not been a video of George Floyd being murdered by a cop posts in this thread about him dying while under police custody would be all like "he had an underlying condition", "you have no proof that the police had anything to do with it", "he hung himself with his shirt". As the police force all gets behind whatever alibi the police officer that murdered him made up.

and if elwar intended to use a brain cell he will see that the 4 squares of the photo has the bottom right photo is a crappy photoshop attempt at putting the cops face on the window breakers face.

but nah. elwar again prefers to make stuff up and refer to stuff that he has not bothered researching

so two debunks in one topic
1. the guy didnt walk to the police station. confirmed debunk of elwar thinking he went to police station
2. the photofit of a random cop looks nothing like the window breaker. confirmed debunk that its that cop

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but ofcourse i will expect more nonsense from elwar about how his now perfect teeth have spent so much time in braces that it allowed him time to actually use his brain... but i still see him lacking researching. so he has just been wasting his time

I thought you were in the UK. Are you a spy, that you were over in the USA viewing all that stuff?

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... Do you really beleive that Sandy Hook was faked? That's the craziest statement I've heard in while. Children died that day, parents lost their children and that's what happened. You can go talk to the principal, teachers, parents, and so on and so forth from the school and you'd see that IT DID HAPPEN. IT HAPPENED.

I've seen some of the pictures of their being police officers at the protest, undercover and acting like protestors to ensure that things don't get TOO out of hand. But I couldn't see an entire department setting something like this up -- that all of you are alleging -- and being able to get away with it without getting fired, losing their jobs, and so on and so forth.

Why risk the career and pension and all that?

Got proof for Sandy Hook, one way or the other?

No career risk. The union will protect them.

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Fakest thing ever, at least up to that point.  At this point they don't even try to act any more since they know that most of you sheep will believe anything presented on Fox, CNN, PBS, etc.  And I do mean anything!

I really thought they jumped the shark on Sandy Hook and a plurality of people would have been awakened.  I was so wrong.  Oh well.  It's happened before and I'm sure it will happen again.  Almost every time I bet on the goyim to be, on balance, anything more than stupid animals it seems that I get burnt.  Pisses me off because I hate to agree with evil Kabbahlistic Zionistic scum.  But what can a guy do?

didnt you get the memo? alex jones promoted that it was fake to get people to buy his gun related stuff.. and later admitted sandy hook was real

i guess you are stuck in the old myth of 2012 alex jones promo adverts

i do find it funny how so many idiots only take 10 minutes to read a title/ watch a video from their favourite conspiracy bookmarked sites. and then make a post on this forum.

yet they then spend hours/days weeks/months trying to defend their irrational initial reaction. rather than actually researching the facts and checking if they were really right or wrong

so ill say it again
alex jones sparked the myth and he himself later debunked his own myth. all so he can advertise lots of gun loving paraphernalia

Strange. You are the second person I have seen that looked at a picture of someone showing either the mask photoshopped over the picture on the left, or the eyes copied over to the picture on the right who has said "That's photoshop!".

Umm...that's the point.

Honestly, how can you be certain of any photo posted online anymore when AI websites like this exist now?

https://www.thispersondoesnotexist.com/

What's stopping the MSM to use headshots generated from such sites when they post deaths from mass shootings, riots, terrorist attacks, or even criminal suspects of such? This tech is perfect for false flag events. The public would never be the wiser.

Certainly not proof. The source would need to verify this is truly from his "friend in Minny".

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZJVC6JU0AIFACV?format=jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZJVC6KVcAAtqMS?format=jpg&name=large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZJVC6JU4AAlyO1?format=jpg&name=medium

Here's a video by the "pizza guy" claiming he's not a cop.

Comment below mentions the guy is a local actor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=86&v=qWK5fSbp7MM&feature=emb_title

Dont know who the autozone guy is, but this fellow been found out
https://www.mgtow.tv/watch/proof-george-floyd-murder-was-a-false-flag-mossad-operation_npxav5yexzXkk5Y.html?lang=english
https://i.ibb.co/D1YH5pD/Untitled.jpg (https://ibb.co/51kgBFW)

And for some reason Umbrella Man comes back to the Autozone later.

https://twitter.com/Dymanh/status/1265818108339650560

Of course, the George Floyd murder is one of many police murders. Simply check the number of hits when you Google "police brutality." People are starting to get fed up with these jokers who are there to protect them, but are messing with their freedom instead.

Then the police do the stuff in the second article below. And the governors call in the Reserves making it all the worse.

When you read the founding fathers reasons for including in the Constitution the ability to have a military, they seemed to say that the military should be small in times of peace, but strong enough to defend from foreign countries. The excellent article at https://original.antiwar.com/srichman/2016/02/26/the-constitution-and-the-standing-army/ shows us that the people were supposed to be the ones to defend against criminality within the country.

But government seems to have focused the military within, and this military is taking lives of the people unnecessarily, and often with impudence. In addition, the courts are not allowing the people free action to get rid of the criminality by this internal, hired military.


Movement to defund police gains 'unprecedented' support across US (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/284125-2020-06-04-movement-to-defund-police-gains-unprecedented-support-across-us.htm)

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The twisted psychology of militarized police uniforms (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/284113-2020-06-04-the-twisted-psychology-of-militarized-police-uniforms.htm)




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elwar posts more stupid stuff.. and even the tries to post another pic showing that the pic is not evidence even though he is posting a topic that it is evidence. even when that pic is trying to tell him to not be a sheep. he is still a conspiracy faux media sheep.
so then he doubles down with a fake text message pic.
so in response ill do the same just to show how easy it is to fool an idiot
https://i.imgur.com/dN7WlJJ.png

Come on.. the guy was smart enough to cover so much of his face that you can't recognize him. If many of us have twins "from another mother" (lookalikes) that share an >80% identical facial features, imagine how easy it is to find lookalikes from a picture of only some eyes and almost invisible eyebrows. You could be recorded in a constant face expression different to your natural one (say frowning) and you'd get very different results.

It's quite useless imo to try recognizing the Autozone guy by matching his eyes with someone else's unless there is a VERY close match and you have at least one detail like if the guy really is a disguised cop as many say. A very close match of a police officer could be helpful then, but with the information we currently have.. I'd think it's a waste of time.

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AI + DeepFakes in combination with some other effects and technologies could produce some astonishingly realistic stuff any eye could easily believe. Scares me when I think about the way we could be literally deceived into a world war at any point through a 100% AI-generated video. See what happens after Floyd's case turned worldwide? Imagine how much violence and unrest an AI-produced footage could generate.

To be honest, I often wonder if part of the news I see are even real anymore. I mean, let's not forget the Tom Hanks Saturday Night (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kol7RE3wCNA) video where you'd need only 5 minutes of photo/video manipulation experience to notice the unrealistic head and .. the surprising baby hands this old man has in the video :D

The UK Coronavirus strategy paper (https://in.news.yahoo.com/uk-coronavirus-government-comply-social-distancing-101209668.html) clearly says that "The perceived level of personal threat needs to be increased among those who are complacent, using hard-hitting emotional messaging" and that a "substantial number of people still do not feel sufficiently personally threatened", these two quotes providing a lot of strength to your reply. Nothing's stopping them anymore - they have too many supporters for it to even matter whether they ever mislead the public or not.

Moreover, the MSM has been caught so many times in the past few months with misleadingly using emotional images and videos to induce fear or panic that trusting them 100% and saying "Not the MSM, not a credible source!" is plain stupid. The Onion is more believable nowadays than most "credible sources" are. Sadly.

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I mean... ears, nose, eyes, mouth, chin, forehead, hairline... none of them look like the officer's.

rumours are this guy done it
https://nationalpostcom.files.wordpress.com/2019/04/chadnadia2.jpg

heres the real funny

the mgtow idiot in the video is on tiptoe and angling knee upwards.
but shouts 'look at this guys look at this this is exact position'
yet the photo. even in Tash's post shows the cops foot was sideways with nearly the ankle touching ground and knee at different angle than the idiot mgtow video guy

no wonder the mgtow guy is a failed actor that only got parts as an extra.
guess he wasnt good at learning lines or following direction. cant even get the details right when there is both picture and video available

i bet the guy lives in his car, but thinks he is a good actor worthy of IMDB credit. and when in shows, his director would tell him to have foot sideways to have ankle near ground to really get close. and the guy would just keep screaming at his director, 'look at this look at this' im in the exact position.
.. while remaining on tiptoe (facepalm)

as for the pic of another actor.. well its not him. but tash loves to clutch at straws
seems certain idiots just copy and paste stuff without actually thinking about it.
its like they are on auto sheep pilot just copying stuff they seen in a video without a moments thought

I mean... ears, nose, eyes, mouth, chin, forehead, hairline... none of them look like the officer's.
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Yes the mustache line, the shape and scare on eyebrow, the particulars of the nose, chin.....on photo is head on at the other one looking up..
Link with bigger pic https://ibb.co/QP9YQv4
https://i.ibb.co/zXsPxVz/Untitled.jpg (https://ibb.co/QP9YQv4)
Where is the left eyebrow shape/scare of the accused?
https://i.ibb.co/mRtQ5Pm/Untitled.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

In my opinion, both cases: George Floyd's strangulation and the story about the guy hitting the window with a hammer are staged by Trump's opponents in order to sow mistrust to the police in the USA and, against this background, to stage a mass riot in order to show Trump as a bad president.


I think this whole situation has turned into some kind of hysteria https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=So_PC3rHrXA, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaMG4nVVmpw. Don't you think so?

Yes, the cop did well to try to hide himself. He likely didn't think someone would get as close to him as they did. And when they did he said "do you want to get arrested?". And when someone screams "Are you a cop?" he responds "does it matter?".

Certainly there is not any "proof" at this point, all speculation. We know that the police will not be investigating this guy. If they were trying to find who it is then that would lend some credibility to the fact that this guy is likely not a cop. But they aren't.

The two points here that would provide the proof would be the guy on twitter who received the girl's text messages getting proof of whom it was and having her verify that it was her and that she knows it was him.

A freedom of information act release of the body camera for Pederson at the time of the window breaking would provide the proof that he was not involved as the police department stated.

There were two quick investigations into this.

The first one being the guy releasing the video, someone took a still of the video to show the guy close up, someone else sees it and sends a text to the girl asking if it was "Jake" (not Jacob as a lazy scammer trying to set someone up would do), this person getting confirmation then posting the text on twitter as a follow up to the picture posted.
Occam's razor puts this as the simplest explanation for those chain of events.
The scam version would be. Guy puts the video up, someone puts up a still picture. Someone else searches to find someone in the St Paul police department that could possibly look like the guy in the close up knowing that if they get a better image their little scam will be destroyed, they come up with some fake text messages coming up with a new story about how those are her gloves, her mask, throws in the nickname of "Jake" on the assumption that this guy goes by the name "Jake" with friends, which would also destroy his scam if people close to the guy verify that nobody calls him that. They then send it to the twitter guy who has many followers and would be able to easily verify the identity of the person sending the text messages.

The second investigation was from the police department. They see some posts about one of their own being outted as the window smasher. They spend about 30 minutes figuring out what to say. They post an announcement that the guy was not Jacob Pederson. End of investigation.

Alex Jones initially presented Sandy Hook as real.  The first thing out of his pie-hole was 'not everything is a fake staged event.'  I happened to be watching like a hawk at the time because I've had a running fascination with Jones' game for a long long time.

Next a ton of people poked a ton of holes in the whole silly charade, and anyone with a pulse could see a the hoax a mile away.  Only at that point did Jones jump on the band-wagon as sort of a damage-control thing.

Years later when TPTB decided to use Sandy Hook (instead of Boston of one of the zillion of other fake 'school' or 'theater' shootings) as the event to bring the hammer down on truthers did Jone's tiny balls totally retreat into his abdomen for good.  By that time I was paying nearly no attention to his bullshit.

Nowhere in Jones' defense that he 'never said Sandy Hook was fake' did I see him present the very solid evidence that he was pumping the fraud and doing apologetic for the perps on the first day or two.  But again, by that time I had pretty much stopped paying attention to his sorry fat zionist ass all together.

Now circle the ears and tell me where exactly do they look the same. Wouldn't have denied this if it was obvious the cab movie guy looked identical, but he does not.

+ it would've been kinda.. stupid to choose a movie actor that clearly has his face on a movie poster as a false flag actor. By the same supposition you could also agree that the Keanu Reeves (https://i.redd.it/wmwvxuvrrai01.jpg) is immortal meme is legit as he shares the same facial features as some guy from 1530.

It's not like they need to stage a cop killing a black guy for any sort of false flag. That stuff happens so often you may as well stage a false flag of a liquor store getting robbed.

The key is to prepare the hype. Just like Corona virus...take something that is common, hype it up to make it seem like something huge, make sure people are scared...more government.

Yep, just like you said, police situations like this one happen nearly every week somewhere in America, or somewhere in the world.

The difference is that the MSM has the power to *choose* whether or not to keep media coverage of those events repressed/invisible, or bubble them up to the surface (front page) at just the right moment. They also have the power to then hype it into the stratosphere.

Would the MSM highlighting this police situation have worked as well if done last year, or the year before that, or the year before that? Would it have made the same impact on the public?

Nope. Because everyone had a job then, unemployment was at an all time low, people were being told the world economies were recovering, and the stock market was flying to new ATHs. The powers that be know not to piss on that parade while positive sentiment is ripping higher and higher. Best to wait until after the crash to fan the flames of racism, social injustice and inequality, which are always there under the surface, waiting to come roaring out again.

The people are constantly being played like a fiddle, and it seems to work every single time. We've seen FUD work to crash the Bitcoin market, and to increase the ongoing bear market. Why then people can't see the same forces at work in the larger world, I can't understand.

To paraphrase Satoshi, "If people can't see it for themselves, I don't have time to explain it to them".

"Yuri Bezmenov - Psychological Warfare Subversion & Control of Western Society"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXN0aJD2BO4

there are multiple enterpretations of this,

the cop could be an antifa leftists trying to help black people loot

or he could be a rightwinger, try to scale up the damage of black protesters

Or he could be a power freak high on power, as he was shown to be in past events of his career. Floyd seems to have been high on some kind of meth at the time.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ofp1tcVg1e8

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/01/us/derek-chauvin-what-we-know-trnd/index.html

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https://thecourierdaily.com/george-floyd-criminal-past-record-arrest/20177/

It's reasonable to point out that the victim was, in fact, a bad guy.

But this remains an incident where the bad guy, being arrested, should have been treated with respect.

Yes, but it is also very relevant to mention...

-He was on dangerous stimulants and CNS depressant drugs (meth +fentanyl)
-He did in fact resist arrest
-He was a violent convicted felon
-He had drugs on him

The media conveniently leaves all of these facts out. There are plenty of completely innocent people killed by cops, this is not the case here. That doesn't make it ok, but this is a form of gaslighting and psychological warfare designed to sow division. They always blow the cases of criminals getting hurt doing dumb shit out of proportion and act like they are innocent while totally ignoring actually totally innocent people getting killed. This is specifically designed to destroy the nation by creating division, hatred, unrest, and more violence. IMO the media doing this is far more dangerous than the police ever could be.

To add some context to this, even though George Floyd was handcuffed, handcuffed suspects can still pose a threat.

Example - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUmMMA9LtJs

Anyone that's arrested should of course be treated well but maintaining control of the suspect was still necessary, especially if he resisted and was acting erratic. The issue of negligence could be made when Chauvin placed his knee on the back of Floyd's neck for too long, but he's being charged with 2nd degree murder so a prosecution is going to have to prove intent. Because handcuffed suspects can still pose a threat, the prosecution has an uphill battle to go through considering the fact Floyd died of essentially a heart attack, not strangulation.

Yes the deceased had a previous heart condition, yes he was under the influence of drugs.
Would he have died that day, just walking on the pavement, going by his day if the police didnt restrain and suffocate him ? That is the question to answer.

The cop is charged with 2nd-degree murder but also to 3rd-degree manslaughter (easier to prove).


I'll  copy this here :



Also, on an almost funny note :
(FYI the autopsy deteced that Floyd, had Covid19, but it didn't kill him)


source : https://globalnews.ca/news/7029209/george-floyd-autopsy-experts/

Floyd tested positive for CV ? ? ?

It will be called a Covid death. Covid did it. They will let the cops go free.

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Obviously no, but Floyd was detained with reasonable suspicion of committing a crime so this argument does not hold up. If police arrest a guy while he's high on methamphetamine and has a heart attack during his arrest, do the police get charged for murder? If the individual was arrested for no reason, then potentially they'll get charged for something. But the police cannot be held liable for someone dying when they resisted if they used legal submission tactics, and the Minneapolis Police Department allows neck holds to gain control of suspects. The reason for Floyd's arrest was legitimate, and by released CCTV footage, it shows that the submission tactics was also legitimate because Floyd was resisting.

The autopsy report showed underlying conditions to contribute to Floyd's death, and he was on drugs during his arrest. This isn't a slam dunk case for the prosecution.



They upgraded the charges to 2nd degree murder. I'm not sure of the double jeopardy laws but from my understanding, I don't think they'd be able to charge him for 3rd degree murder if they fail to get a conviction for 2nd degree, maybe wrong though. Another distinction, you can have a homicide but still not have a murder. A homicide is simply when one human being is killed by another. If police kill an active shooter who murdered 13 people prior to raising a gun to police, the shooter's death would be classified a homicide. Homicide does not indicate intent/fault for murder.

No one is rationalizing anything but you. So many innocent people killed by police every year, but the media never covers them, and instead picks the violent felons dying doing dumb shit like doing meth and fentanyl and resisting arrest to support because TV and Twatter said so. You are fucking brainless automatons. Furthermore black on black violence kills many multiple times more than police do, but lets all pretend that doesn't exist cause MUH RAYSHISM and BOOTLICKERZ!


"Media's 'Racial Injustice' Blind Spot: Over 30 Shot In Another Deadly Chicago Weekend"

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/medias-racial-injustice-blind-spot-over-30-shot-another-deadly-chicago-weekend

Really they don't. They do however cover lots of people engaged in criminal activity that get themselves killed by being stupid and act as if they are totally innocent. No, death is not a fit punishment, however in most of these cases if they weren't engaged in criminal activity or resisting arrest, none of it would have happened to begin with.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ofp1tcVg1e8

Just because people refuse to join your social justice cult doesn't make them all literally Hitler. You have fun with your LAARPing imagining yourself to be a freedom fighter hero fighting injustice though.

Pointing out the battles of the prosecution isn't supporting the idea that someone should be murdered for using a fake 20. Not sure why you think I'm on the side of Derek Chauvin acting appropriately here because I don't think he did.


I posted a link earlier on about how handcuffed suspects can still be a threat but nonetheless that doesn't justify a 9 minute duration of a knee to the neck. Chauvin is negligent and he was rightfully fired. My point was strictly made to address a legal perspective which  was can you prove intent to murder when Floyd died from a heart attack after resisting? Manslaughter sounds appropriate, but hey, I'm not a lawyer so what do I know. But you absolutely do have instances where people get overcharged with crimes which end up in an acquittal.

Something is screwed in the quotes above. Here's what I had to say about the entire fiasco.

It's reasonable to point out that the victim was, in fact, a bad guy.

But this remains an incident where the bad guy, being arrested, should have been treated with respect.

Tell me, what do you think your trendy hive mind leftard "bootlicker" mantra that gets used against anyone who disagrees with you stems from? This is where you lie and pretend it is not a Nazi reference. Calling everyone a Nazi got so played out and turned you into jokes, so you had to find a new creative allegory to call people Nazis without being so obvious.

You want to stop government overreach? Use examples of some one other than violent drug addict felons committing crimes as your poster boys. Its so weird how everyone is not behind pretending victimizers are victims isn't it? Also I noticed you totally avoided responding to the MUCH more serious issue of black on black violence, but that is par for the course for leftards like you.

There is no rage bait packed in that issue, no REEECISM to shout about, no one to call boot licker and target with your pre-programmed cognitive dissonance, so why bother? What is important is you get personal satisfaction from LAARPing as a hero, not that it is a bigger problem that needs a solution. Also if people addressed that issue, they might also have to address the fact that there are larger issues within the black community and culture that have nothing to do with racism.




Nobody here is a lawyer, so it is not our place to argue, but of course your argument is valid.




It is a fact he was a convicted violent felon. No one is saying he "got what he deserved". They are however saying he is by far not simply an innocent victim of racist circumstance as the media, and retards like you present him to be. He made choices that lead himself down that path. He put HIMSELF into that situation. This is all being portrayed as an innocent man minding his own business being victimized by circumstances beyond his control. This is totally a lie. You don't give a fuck about justice, if you did you would be bringing ACTUAL INNOCENTS harmed by police to the forefront. Instead we find you here regurgitating what the media and hive mind command of you like a social justice parrot bot.

or just someone who wants to destroy something no one knows

I will give it to you that the media is using this case to highlight police brutality and police abuse. There are way better case to highlt their points, and Floyd wouldn't have been my preferred choice.

But, the true question is the following: if Floyd was an abiding citizen that died to the hand of the police, would you have supported the current movement aiming to end police brutality? (I am not reffering to the looting, violence and destruction... just the peaceful action of saying enough is enough).

It is unfortunate, that Floyd is being martyrized as a hero, a figure to refer to for the young generation.
Yes he was a felon, yes he was a bad person, but, no, he didn't deserve to die that day.
There are pedophiles, mass murders, serial killers that are better treated than him, waiting for 5 - 10 years for sentencing on the death penalty.
Floyd, got killed for handing over a fake bill (we will never know if it was intentional or not!).


I also believe that better previous policy manslaughter/brutality/murder would have been a better case for exposing the bad cops.
But hey, the internet has decided that this case was the last straw that breaks the camel's back


I'll repost here, that what I wrote somewhere else :

They aren't just highlighting police brutality, they are amplifying horrible examples of criminals doing dumb shit to intentionally create division over an issue most people agree about. Furthermore they have repeatedly pushed false narratives and hoaxes in order to create racial division and anger over the past 10 years or so, and have done more than the police themselves to create this situation.

Additionally these kind of events also happen to white people all the time, but the media never covers those incidents because it doesn't fuel their rage bait and political narratives, creating the false impression that this is only a problem for black people, again creating more racial division. The people creating this uprising don't give a GOOD GOD DAMN about justice for anyone, they are simply creating and using rage for their own monetary and political gains. This is exactly why I don't support any of this current situation, because it is enabling and benefiting the people doing the MOST to create these issues.

I think I already answered your question with my previous replies regarding my covering of police brutality in the past. One measure I do support for example is the removal of qualified immunity for police which protects them from being sued. I am sure however that bill will also be loaded up with all kinds of other bullshit I don't support, because that is how these people work. It is never about justice, it is about achieving a means to an end, and fuck the principle of the matter. These people are just tools to be used to obtain their political and financial goals.

True, there is definitely a political agenda behind. The US election are too close to be a coincidence.


Tue, as a matter of fact, I wrote that 50% of policy brutality / murders are committed on white people.
And if you put in relation % of people in jail per color, I'm pretty sure that the % of white being killed is greater than the balcks in relation to incarcerated population (lack of tiem to find proper source).
Using a black victim allow to rally the afro americans, the latino amercians that are also victims, all the minorities and the "leftist" white and also some of the republican that have more than 2 brain cells and understand the police brutality issue.
Someone is being played, but we don't know who yet.
Regardless of that, if the police are pruning their staff of the bad apples, and start to being held accountable this would be somewhat a victory for all the future "victims".

There is definitely and agenda, but it doesnt mean that the police brutality against citizen of all colour and sex is an issue.



Someone is being played, but we don't know who yet.
One of the request of the #blacklivematter and the antifa and all the people that rallied behind the floyd movement is  to stop the police immunity.
Someone is being played, but we don't know who yet.

Chauvin had 17 complaints against him, most of them dismissed.
Is the USA a democracy where the police should be held accountable or is a martial law contry where the ones with the guns and the badge do what they want ?

Hello nutildah.... you gave me a negative feedback few months ago because i "harrassed" someone who disrespected me and who is the same person below that start disrespecting you because of your opinion (he his called "TECSHARE") ... Be serious and honest, maybe you could think about removing your negative feedback on my profil and i'll remove mine. This is just my vision of the common sense i'm not here to offense you and i totally agree with your comment here. I don't disrespect people if they don't do it with me, so i think you are wrong by giving me this feedback but i totally understand why you thought you were right.

Thank you.

Thank you  :)

Have a good day.

Oh, that's soooo sweet!  I just love to see people cumming together to communicate, work out their differences, and live in peace and harmony together forever.

For my part, I don't actually mind having de-merits on my social credit score from people who are notable dumb-fucks of the type who would get off on such things (e.g., lauda).  If either of you wish to damage my social credit score, go for it.

Kudos to Thermos for trying, but I would call his fiefdom-wide social credit score attempts a failure.  And a reasonably predictable one.  Blame it on the frailties of human nature I suppose.

Well shit, I didn't realize all one had to do was declare they won the argument and it magically makes it so. Let me try. I win! Give up Nutilduhh! That's fun. I especially like the part where you pretend you aren't making Nazi references. Also the off topic mutual exchange of removing negative ratings from a publicly documented extortionist and trust system abuser (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5233969.0) because you are so easily manipulated by your emotions was also a nice touch.

"should have been treated with respect" and "He didn't deserve it at all" are in my dim, non-WOKE brain, pretty darn similar.

Now you can go back to popping bubbles.