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Title: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: Gorosden on June 01, 2020, 09:12:23 AM
Here are points that bounty hunters aren't responsible for major dumps happening to bounty projects

Point 1.
Many bounty hunters hold tokens and coins they earn from bounties, not all of them are dumpers,

Point 2.
and it's ridiculous if a project dumps because of bounties and airdrops promotions that's suppose to drive in many investors for them

Point 3.
Bounties allocations are not even up to 1% of the projects max allocations, the most projects I've seen only gives out 0.1% and some even gives out only 0.01%

Point 4.
New projects go around giving too good discounts for early investors, an ICO price of 0.01$ turn to 0.005$ for early investors, what are they thinking? The moment this hits exchange and price starts at 0.02$ they will surely dump 💯


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: slashz9 on June 01, 2020, 10:10:43 AM
I also think so they never give more than 5% prizes and the bounty hunters also do not sell them directly simultaneously, so if prices go down when listing maybe the project is not good or investors sell most of their coins.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: smyslov on June 01, 2020, 10:20:30 AM
Here are points that bounty hunters aren't responsible for major dumps happening to bounty projects

Point 1.
Many bounty hunters hold tokens and coins they earn from bounties, not all of them are dumpers,

Point 2.
and it's ridiculous if a project dumps because of bounties and airdrops promotions that's suppose to drive in many investors for them

Point 3.
Bounties allocations are not even up to 1% of the projects max allocations, the most projects I've seen only gives out 0.1% and some even gives out only 0.01%

Point 4.
New projects go around giving too good discounts for early investors, an ICO price of 0.01$ turn to 0.005$ for early investors, what are they thinking? The moment this hits exchange and price starts at 0.02$ they will surely dump 💯

This has been the issue for a long time now, when the fact is only 2 to 5% of the supply are allocated for bounty hunters, if a project crash because of dumping of the bounty hunters then this project failed to attract investors , a good project will always have a good price and volume this is the indicator that the project is good.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: LbtalkL on June 01, 2020, 10:31:39 AM
Bounty allocation is very low it is not the bounty hunters, Yes, there is a possibility that it will dump temporarily but if the projects have investors 2% is nothing. Projects are blaming some hunters but they are one to be blamed, maybe their marketing is a failure or their tokensale does not meet at least softcap but they are saying that they reach hardcap and the result a very is volume on trading or they are the one dumping it. Only top exchange tokensale is good.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: joshua123 on June 01, 2020, 10:36:20 AM
You are right they are not but the investors and the team think its the hunter's fault. We cant actually persuade them about their belief but being a hunter we should not think of it as negative from their feedback. What do they know? They just speaking their mind and they are upset that their investment is falling and thats how investment works there are times that they can gain and lose. There is safe investment, all of it are associated with risk.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: Davian144 on June 01, 2020, 10:41:32 AM
Here are points that bounty hunters aren't responsible for major dumps happening to bounty projects

Point 1.
Many bounty hunters hold tokens and coins they earn from bounties, not all of them are dumpers,

Point 2.
and it's ridiculous if a project dumps because of bounties and airdrops promotions that's suppose to drive in many investors for them

Point 3.
Bounties allocations are not even up to 1% of the projects max allocations, the most projects I've seen only gives out 0.1% and some even gives out only 0.01%

Point 4.
New projects go around giving too good discounts for early investors, an ICO price of 0.01$ turn to 0.005$ for early investors, what are they thinking? The moment this hits exchange and price starts at 0.02$ they will surely dump 💯
The points you wrote down are very true, and if anyone accuses the bounty participants of being irresponsible dumper, this is wrong and even that person uses his brain to think, because it is very clear that basically the bounty participants are working on promotion on the bounty project for the sake of easier spread of information to investors, both through this forum and through their social media accounts, so it would be very funny if bounty participants were accused of being dumpers in the market, because they work only to expect payment from bounties, which sometimes only get coins.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: tiang_tower on June 01, 2020, 10:54:44 AM
The allocated % to bounty hunters are very small where it couldn't affects the market price of a coin if ever all hunters sell their coins.
Yes, it is very true, and I personally have seen dumper on a token before the bounty payment is distributed to all bounty participants, this is clearly not the bounty participant who did it, but other parties who get more tokens.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: Desscount on June 01, 2020, 12:20:10 PM
The allocated % to bounty hunters are very small where it couldn't affects the market price of a coin if ever all hunters sell their coins.
Yes, it is very true, and I personally have seen dumper on a token before the bounty payment is distributed to all bounty participants, this is clearly not the bounty participant who did it, but other parties who get more tokens.
what makes the project token Dump is an investor, not a bounty hunter,
investors are always given a bonus of 20-50% for every purchase of their token, and this makes a dump happen


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: btcltcdigger on June 01, 2020, 12:43:45 PM
Altho i agree with you, they can indirectly cause a dump.
A certain amount of hunters will decide to sell immediately because they want the good old BTC/ETH.
And by doing so, they might cause a cascade effect. By this i mean this:

1) Some hunters sell and cause the price to go down a bit
2) Some other hunters see price falling and panic (weak hands) causing even more of a dip
3) Some see this and also panic
..
..
..
Price dumps

Now, don't forget early investors. Biggest dump factor IMHO are bonuses which are given on presale. Some projects were giving up to 50% more tokens. So naturally, some investors will sell this bonus.
And this sale of bonus might cause the cascade again...

It's a vicious circle


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: GreatArkansas on June 01, 2020, 12:49:10 PM
Point 3.
Bounties allocations are not even up to 1% of the projects max allocations, the most projects I've seen only gives out 0.1% and some even gives out only 0.01%
Point 3 makes sense for me. And for sure if the project owners or staffs connected to the project telling bounty hunters are the response for the dumps, then for sure it's already fishy and sounds scammy.
Most of the allocations on every project especially on the ICO are on Investors or project owners/staffs. And we still cannot assure those investors are not totally connected with the project owners or in the project.
So, I don't think why are some people blaming some small-time bounty hunters earning a very little amount on the campaign?


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on June 01, 2020, 12:53:38 PM
I am active here since 2017. From what I have seen, promoters are responsible for 99% of the dumps. It is illogical to say that the bounty hunters should be blamed for dumping of tokens. As the OP pointed out, in most cases bounty allocation is 1% of the total pool or even lower. How can anyone crash the token price with such a small amount of tokens?


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: maxreish on June 01, 2020, 01:10:05 PM
Obviously, that makes sense. Those bounty hunters just own small percentage from the total circulating supply. Unless most of the bounty hunters are also big investors of the project which I highly doubt and is not usually to happen. Probably, they are "not" the main reason for the dump or even for the pump of a certain projects. And good points, OP. This will clear up some misbeliefs of others.

I am just wondering, if aside from the supply and demand reason for a coin to affect the price, is the owner and the team possibly affect the price since I am thinking if they hold huge amount of that coin to easily dump or pump it whenever they want to?


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: Pirate46Mx on June 01, 2020, 01:18:00 PM
the allocation of funds given to prize hunters is indeed very small, so it has very little effect on the token dump if the prize hunter sells all the tokens given, all because of the large investors involved in the project selling all their tokens.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: bussybuddy on June 01, 2020, 01:23:28 PM
Here are points that bounty hunters aren't responsible for major dumps happening to bounty projects

Point 1.
Many bounty hunters hold tokens and coins they earn from bounties, not all of them are dumpers,

Point 2.
and it's ridiculous if a project dumps because of bounties and airdrops promotions that's suppose to drive in many investors for them

Point 3.
Bounties allocations are not even up to 1% of the projects max allocations, the most projects I've seen only gives out 0.1% and some even gives out only 0.01%

Point 4.
New projects go around giving too good discounts for early investors, an ICO price of 0.01$ turn to 0.005$ for early investors, what are they thinking? The moment this hits exchange and price starts at 0.02$ they will surely dump 💯
If the project offers a very low allocation, for example 0.01% then you should abandon it. It's a very low allocation and their bounty will be very stingy, I've seen a lot of stingy projects like that, and they ended up failing.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: Kong Hey Pakboy on June 01, 2020, 01:37:52 PM
Bounty hunters are really not responsible for dumps because the team members of the project didn't do anything to attract more investors and make their project well developed for continuous growth. Even bounty hunters sell off their coins from the rewards they received it is still not their fault because they only received a small percentage of their supply.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: meanwords on June 01, 2020, 02:08:32 PM
Here are points that bounty hunters aren't responsible for major dumps happening to bounty projects

Point 1.
Many bounty hunters hold tokens and coins they earn from bounties, not all of them are dumpers,

Point 2.
and it's ridiculous if a project dumps because of bounties and airdrops promotions that's suppose to drive in many investors for them

Point 3.
Bounties allocations are not even up to 1% of the projects max allocations, the most projects I've seen only gives out 0.1% and some even gives out only 0.01%

Point 4.
New projects go around giving too good discounts for early investors, an ICO price of 0.01$ turn to 0.005$ for early investors, what are they thinking? The moment this hits exchange and price starts at 0.02$ they will surely dump 💯

That's the misconception that people always says. Although it's not the investors fault but I disagree with point 1 because the majority of the hunters are dumpers. That's probably why people (investors) are blaming bounty hunters BUT it was really the investors that gets the majority of the token from a project. Even the investors themselves are the major dumper of the market.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: bluebit25 on June 01, 2020, 02:29:36 PM
But if they do not make good offers to investors early, then I believe the project will be very difficult to succeed. So most of the projects that completed the ICO or IEO thing collapsed and the price dropped many times afterwards


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: aakay on June 01, 2020, 04:18:10 PM
That is what most of these projects fail to understand. How can you conclude that a group of individuals who collectively do not posses up to 5% of your project token is the cause of dumping. Sounds funny though


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: Ifemini on June 01, 2020, 04:33:43 PM
The crypto currency world knows that Bounty hunters is not responsible for dumps on the market, the truth is just that Bounty hunters are easy blames, and it is rightly so because no one can defend Bounty hunters

And it is one reason why exchange like binance will demand hunters reward slashed into 3sections.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: serjent05 on June 01, 2020, 04:59:05 PM
Here are points that bounty hunters aren't responsible for major dumps happening to bounty projects

Point 1.
Many bounty hunters hold tokens and coins they earn from bounties, not all of them are dumpers,

Point 2.
and it's ridiculous if a project dumps because of bounties and airdrops promotions that's suppose to drive in many investors for them

Point 3.
Bounties allocations are not even up to 1% of the projects max allocations, the most projects I've seen only gives out 0.1% and some even gives out only 0.01%

Point 4.
New projects go around giving too good discounts for early investors, an ICO price of 0.01$ turn to 0.005$ for early investors, what are they thinking? The moment this hits exchange and price starts at 0.02$ they will surely dump 💯

Well said, these scum developers are just making excuses blaming bounty hunters for the dump.  The truth is they are the one dumping and/or those private investors (presale investors and angel investors) that are dumping hard.  They just use bounty hunters as a scapegoat, but if they pay them (bounty hunters) in BTC or ETH, for sure their token will still be dump because scum developers hold the majority of the token and they are really the one dumping the token.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: tbterryboy on June 01, 2020, 05:07:21 PM
I agree that no one should be responsible for dumps of a coin/token but only the devs. Yes, they must have use-case based project which will definitely have value regardless of how hard dumps do happen on them. Only the project which are not focusing on developing a real-world application related thing, will get dumped when their bounty hunters are reward. I guess it is not right to stop the bounty hunters from dumping. Because, it is their earning hence they have all the right to do whatever they want.

Moreover, bounty hunters will save the rewards if they believe into the development of that project. When the devs do fail in gaining confident among their own bounty program participants how they will convince other common people to invest with then or adopt their project.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: Phoenix_PROG on June 01, 2020, 05:24:44 PM
Discounts is the biggest enemy of ICO projects, if a project is very important and has better quality the project team don't have to use discounts to attract investors because it will eventually bring down the wall on them, it's not a good move


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: ecnalubma on June 01, 2020, 05:30:47 PM
Some investors claim that but they are wrong if they just look at the projects tokenomics they will realise that they are wrong. Dumps are only temporary its all about demand and supply, real potential projects could really bounced back unless its a garbage project and no chance to be survive.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: 103deltafox on June 01, 2020, 05:57:34 PM
Very well said, bounty hunters are never the reason for dump, the bounty reward is just a minute fraction of the total pool so while will that of bounty hunter affect the total pool,some time the dump could also be caused by the investor who were opportuned to buy at a bonus price or the dumping market generally could affect a token


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: Romeotom on June 01, 2020, 06:14:45 PM
There are some dumper and some holders. Here some bounty hunter want quickly sold and got money without seen those coins grap bad situation. Even unlucky some bounty hunter stay hold and do not want sales of the dumper timing.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: Sanugarid on June 01, 2020, 06:19:34 PM
What might be the truth about these scam projects is that they are lying to everyone. Promises are meant to be broken, they might be deliberately doing the dumps so every investors will be hesitated to sell. They will let the bounty hunters enjoy since these are only less than 2% of the total allocation, thus this will leave investors no choice but to stay but have you guys ever wonder why a certain project is plummeting even after a certain time period? Simply because the team is backing off without telling the investors. Soon they'll drop an apology message to everyone saying that the project has failed, terms and condition favors them coz they did not read them. With that they can just slip away without any legal problems. How is this theory?


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: MCDev on June 01, 2020, 06:36:42 PM
The reason a project collapses and becomes a simple landfill is that it is inefficient and cannot attract investors. Those who blame bounty hunters are only trying to hide their weakness.
The supply of bounty and aridrop programs rarely exceed 1% of the project, so bounty hunters are hard to influence the price of a project.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: serjent05 on June 01, 2020, 06:40:49 PM
There are some dumper and some holders. Here some bounty hunter want quickly sold and got money without seen those coins grap bad situation. Even unlucky some bounty hunter stay hold and do not want sales of the dumper timing.

If you consider the amount of token allocated to bounty hunters, they are just minimal.  1% to 5% of the total supply, where devs hold 20% to 30%.  If the economy of the token is established this 1% to 5% dump won't hurt the market that much, it may go down for some time and will recover eventually.  But the problem is that the price of these token never recover and these incompetent devs blame it to the bounty hunter who promoted their project.  So they are saying that it is because of the bounty hunter when the price of their worthless token continue to go down.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: xZork on June 01, 2020, 06:41:23 PM
Here are points that bounty hunters aren't responsible for major dumps happening to bounty projects

Point 1.
Many bounty hunters hold tokens and coins they earn from bounties, not all of them are dumpers,

Point 2.
and it's ridiculous if a project dumps because of bounties and airdrops promotions that's suppose to drive in many investors for them

Point 3.
Bounties allocations are not even up to 1% of the projects max allocations, the most projects I've seen only gives out 0.1% and some even gives out only 0.01%

Point 4.
New projects go around giving too good discounts for early investors, an ICO price of 0.01$ turn to 0.005$ for early investors, what are they thinking? The moment this hits exchange and price starts at 0.02$ they will surely dump 💯
There are two reasons why a project becomes a landfill: the weakness of the project along with the development team sold out the coins they own.
In fact the second reason often occurs in the cryptocurrency market. As soon as they attract investors and can put their projects to trade, the development team will sell out everything they hold and leave a pile of rubbish.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: timmmers on June 01, 2020, 07:08:13 PM
But you have to realize that if team distributes for example 100 000USD to the bounty participants at a same day and the token doesn´t have enough liquidity, and all of these bounty participants decide to sell, it ia a big selling pressure and the price will fall until its find enough buyers.  ;)


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: arjuna BTC on June 01, 2020, 07:25:20 PM
But you have to realize that if team distributes for example 100 000USD to the bounty participants at a same day and the token doesn´t have enough liquidity, and all of these bounty participants decide to sell, it ia a big selling pressure and the price will fall until its find enough buyers.  ;)

Maybe you are right,,
But, in my opinion not all bounty hunters will sell their rewards after they received mate,,
And maybe if the crowsale from the project succed,, ot at least can reach the soft cap,
why the team do not buy back the token at exchange to keep the trust from crypto investors


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: pandanaran on June 01, 2020, 07:43:29 PM
Yes, as you said above, if we draw conclusions from the prize allocation, the prize hunter is not wrong. because prize hunters only get a few% of the total project prize. I think the dumper happened because the project team itself or the initial investor first received more tokens.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: bigcash2011 on June 01, 2020, 07:47:48 PM
Here are points that bounty hunters aren't responsible for major dumps happening to bounty projects

Point 1.
Many bounty hunters hold tokens and coins they earn from bounties, not all of them are dumpers,

Point 2.
and it's ridiculous if a project dumps because of bounties and airdrops promotions that's suppose to drive in many investors for them

Point 3.
Bounties allocations are not even up to 1% of the projects max allocations, the most projects I've seen only gives out 0.1% and some even gives out only 0.01%

Point 4.
New projects go around giving too good discounts for early investors, an ICO price of 0.01$ turn to 0.005$ for early investors, what are they thinking? The moment this hits exchange and price starts at 0.02$ they will surely dump 💯

Well i have another view, i think if the token dumps as soon as it lists on an exchange, it is the weakness of the team and just goes on to show that their token and project has not been received well by the market so they need to think and strategize to make things better for their projecr.
Another big reason for dumping is low liquidity and less buyers in the market so if someone is in need or in a hurry to withdraw he will fill whatever buy orders he gets causing severe dump in price.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: DeadCoin on June 01, 2020, 08:16:03 PM
Yes, I agree. Because that is the responsibility of the project owner, not the bounty hunters. Of course, hunters join bounty to gain profit, and most commonly of the bounty hunters are not holders like investors. They want quickly to earn once the reward is successfully distributed. The only solution I guess is if the company has a buy back the same amount to the bounty allocation.

But if that is a good project it will not dump in the market after listing.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: kingzpro on June 01, 2020, 08:25:45 PM
Here are points that bounty hunters aren't responsible for major dumps happening to bounty projects

Point 1.
Many bounty hunters hold tokens and coins they earn from bounties, not all of them are dumpers,

Point 2.
and it's ridiculous if a project dumps because of bounties and airdrops promotions that's suppose to drive in many investors for them

Point 3.
Bounties allocations are not even up to 1% of the projects max allocations, the most projects I've seen only gives out 0.1% and some even gives out only 0.01%

Point 4.
New projects go around giving too good discounts for early investors, an ICO price of 0.01$ turn to 0.005$ for early investors, what are they thinking? The moment this hits exchange and price starts at 0.02$ they will surely dump 💯
Although they blame bounty hunters for dumping all the time but i suspect the team itself for dumping because they usually sell their own inventory at exchanges to get more eth and btc and usually it is a red flag as it confirms that team is greedy and want to make the most out of their authority secondly the people who get the tokens for cheap during private and pre sales sell for small profit causing dumps because these are big investors so when they exit they cause serious crash.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: reallester on June 01, 2020, 08:48:34 PM
Here are points that bounty hunters aren't responsible for major dumps happening to bounty projects

Point 1.
Many bounty hunters hold tokens and coins they earn from bounties, not all of them are dumpers,

Point 2.
and it's ridiculous if a project dumps because of bounties and airdrops promotions that's suppose to drive in many investors for them

Point 3.
Bounties allocations are not even up to 1% of the projects max allocations, the most projects I've seen only gives out 0.1% and some even gives out only 0.01%

Point 4.
New projects go around giving too good discounts for early investors, an ICO price of 0.01$ turn to 0.005$ for early investors, what are they thinking? The moment this hits exchange and price starts at 0.02$ they will surely dump 💯

It's quite ridiculous to say a project dumped because of bounty hunters. A strong project will remain strong evennif hunters dumped their tokens. And to come to think of the fact that not all bounty hunters dump their tokens.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: Odebowa on June 01, 2020, 08:50:01 PM
yes ooo, or what is the effect of a cup of water in pool or ocean, if its not insider trading, fault of the team, owner and manager. The reward given to the hunter is of quantity to the extent it will affect the whole project some hunters always keep there reward with hope to rise in the nearest future, in other to earn more


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: RealMalatesta on June 01, 2020, 09:19:34 PM
Point 1; How could you know that most bounty hunters are holding their tokens? Depending from token to token, there could be plenty of bounty hunters who sell right away, or could be keeping, we wouldn't really know all that much, most of the time as soon as it hits exchanges the prices go down, we can't say it was bounty hunters, but we can't say it wasn't neither.

Rest of the points could be true, I am not saying any of them is wrong, they are still not proof, they are just thoughts and assumptions and this is a forum so you are free to share your mind about things, but also we have a right to disagree with what you think, yet I only wanted to inform that these are not proof, these are not evidence, these are just assumptions, people can and will probably do illogical things all the time.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: Twinkledoe on June 01, 2020, 09:26:45 PM

It's quite ridiculous to say a project dumped because of bounty hunters. A strong project will remain strong evennif hunters dumped their tokens. And to come to think of the fact that not all bounty hunters dump their tokens.

Aside from that, even if the bounty hunters will dump their tokens, it should not significantly affect the project as the allotment is very small to these bounty hunters. Also, you have to check the timeline of the dump, usually the hunters don't receive yet their share when the dump happens, so how could they blame it to hunters?


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: ZincUnrated on June 01, 2020, 09:32:05 PM
Anyone who still think hunters are responsible for token price dumps is simply naive or can't see what's happening. Most of the dumps are caused by token sale participants who got this tokens together with huge discount and bonuses. Since they don't care about the prices, they sell off their hugely discounted tokens to a point that it crashes the market prices and ruining it all for everyone involved. Some times, hunters don't get paid in time and yet the prices of these projects still dump. Hunters aren't really the ones dumping project prices... .


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: Barbut on June 01, 2020, 10:05:07 PM
Anyone who still think hunters are responsible for token price dumps is simply naive or can't see what's happening. Most of the dumps are caused by token sale participants who got this tokens together with huge discount and bonuses. Since they don't care about the prices, they sell off their hugely discounted tokens to a point that it crashes the market prices and ruining it all for everyone involved. Some times, hunters don't get paid in time and yet the prices of these projects still dump. Hunters aren't really the ones dumping project prices... .

Tiy forget to mention team members! Many team members are paid high with project coin, and they dump before others, because they know exactly which exchange will list them first and they know the exact time, they can prepare better than all others! Usually, it's what happens, destroying of the project comes from inside, not outside! The team is the most responsible for their project, and they have premined coins, or they got it with contract!


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: tunapa on June 01, 2020, 10:26:28 PM
Most times these projects are playing hide and seek when they say hunters are dumping the price. Some investors have more than all the total token allocated to bounty and when they list, they don't usually have good volume. So if such investor decide to sell off they will link it to hunters. It's not the truth.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: dongosquad on June 01, 2020, 11:56:22 PM
Most times these projects are playing hide and seek when they say hunters are dumping the price. Some investors have more than all the total token allocated to bounty and when they list, they don't usually have good volume. So if such investor decide to sell off they will link it to hunters. It's not the truth.
This is just an excuse to cover up the dev team's unpreparedness. How could they blame the bounty hunter for selling together? even though it is they who determine the allocation for the bounty campaign, if they already know this risk, they should make an allocation that they can handle. Or determine other strategies such as buybacks, or give rewards with other coins such as BTC or ETH. In essence, the irresponsible dev team always blames the bounty hunter.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: BChydro on June 01, 2020, 11:59:53 PM
This is just an excuse to cover up the dev team's unpreparedness. How could they blame the bounty hunter for selling together? even though it is they who determine the allocation for the bounty campaign, if they already know this risk, they should make an allocation that they can handle. Or determine other strategies such as buybacks, or give rewards with other coins such as BTC or ETH. In essence, the irresponsible dev team always blames the bounty hunter.
I guess so the irresponsible teams usually blame the bounty hunters. When a team release a project if they have an idea about the worth of their project, then they will put a decent bounty so that the project they are planning will reach a good mileage. I bet these projects will cash out money after raising funds and then blame it on the bounty hunters  :D.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: asriloni on June 02, 2020, 01:39:58 AM
Most times these projects are playing hide and seek when they say hunters are dumping the price. Some investors have more than all the total token allocated to bounty and when they list, they don't usually have good volume. So if such investor decide to sell off they will link it to hunters. It's not the truth.
It's the same like blockburn project but the developer was not even saying if they were dumping the token and they blame the hunters.

I think those who are still saying hunters caused this problem must try to visit the market to know the reality. There are so many people were blaming hunters caused by this.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: Henrobakkara on June 02, 2020, 02:36:49 AM

Point 1.
Many bounty hunters hold tokens and coins they earn from bounties, not all of them are dumpers,
yes you are right I also still hold some tokens that I got from the bounty (so not all hunters will sell their tokens)


Point 2.
and it's ridiculous if a project dumps because of bounties and airdrops promotions that's suppose to drive in many investors for them
this is what sometimes makes me laugh to myself when the hunter is blamed for dump, they don't realize if their products are not much in demand, so there is little demand in the market, this is their only reason to cover up products that fail


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: Ridwan Fauzi on June 02, 2020, 02:42:49 AM
I think this is about a culture, I have seen several times that when a project is successfully launched and being traded by some exchange the price of the project will dump quickly. I can't blame the investor or bounty hunter either but it is about how project is, I mean if the project has a good function and real case for human being in the future we won't see a huge dump for the project. The investor and bounty hunter will try to keep the token project in their wallet because they will get a huge profit in the future.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: Nalbo on June 02, 2020, 02:49:28 AM
Bounty participants are just escape goats for most project. The team fails to create a value and blame it all on bounty participants. If the project is sure enough about their success and don't want the bounty tokens to be dumped, they should pay bounty participants on other popular currency rather than their own token. But they don't. Most of the scam ICO are not sold and the team itself dumps most of it's unsold tokens on cheap price on listing which causes the price crash.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: dragon695 on June 02, 2020, 03:33:27 AM
Bounty participants are just escape goats for most project. The team fails to create a value and blame it all on bounty participants. If the project is sure enough about their success and don't want the bounty tokens to be dumped, they should pay bounty participants on other popular currency rather than their own token. But they don't. Most of the scam ICO are not sold and the team itself dumps most of it's unsold tokens on cheap price on listing which causes the price crash.
True! Bounty hunters are not responsible for the dump of any projects' token. I think they choose bounty hunters as a "food for powder". I'm sure that they already knew bounty hunters just go in and out in a project to earn profit rather than stay along with the project all the way. Furthermore, the raising and dumping of a token price is mostly depended on their projects' plan. You can't blame customers for not consuming your low-quality product!


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: bgaf on June 02, 2020, 03:34:04 AM
Most of the scam ICO are not sold and the team itself dumps most of it's unsold tokens on cheap price on listing which causes the price crash.
I agree with this. The only thing about centralized exchange can be manipulated by the project. We cant see if the team already dumping unless we watch and observed all details regarding to their token metrics such as supply or allocated for the team, their vested period and token address. We all knew these details can track using etherscan so we can know if they are dumping their owned tokens or not. The thing here is the anonymity on the cex which is hard to noticed compared to dex.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: Zazzu on June 02, 2020, 06:14:46 AM
Bounty participants are just escape goats for most project. The team fails to create a value and blame it all on bounty participants. If the project is sure enough about their success and don't want the bounty tokens to be dumped, they should pay bounty participants on other popular currency rather than their own token. But they don't. Most of the scam ICO are not sold and the team itself dumps most of it's unsold tokens on cheap price on listing which causes the price crash.
They should use the money to develop the project instead of using it to pay bounty hunters. And I think that if they don't want the price to fall when distributing bounty, then they need to distribute it in different batches. Delaying distribution will not solve the problem, until in the end the price will still fall


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: Free1bitco.in on June 02, 2020, 06:24:41 AM
Bounty hunters can be one of the causes of dumps, it is a natural thing to think about it, given that many hunters sell their assets simultaneously. however, that is not entirely the fault of the bounty hunter.
in fact, the development team should have considered that tokens given to bounty hunters cannot make large changes in the price of tokens, because the tokens given are not so large from the total allocation. in addition, other causes are also very large investor bonuses, and also the team's strategy that does not consider this risk


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: joseyphil82 on June 02, 2020, 06:27:22 AM
If new projects team think bounty hunters makes their coins or tokens lose that much value they should find another means to pay bounty hunters or don't bother to introduce any bounty campaign, I have seen projects that pay in BTC to keep value of their token


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: studio1one on June 02, 2020, 06:34:04 AM
I always like to hold my rewards from bounty because sometimes holding pays off.

but TBT bounty hunters do pay a bit of a role in the dumping of price but not that much because early investors do have to pay some $$ for the tokens but BHs don't (yes I know we work for it).


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: Midy on June 02, 2020, 06:34:18 AM
bounty hunters are part of providing information to investors to be invited to invest in a project, although not many tokens are distributed, which causes the price of token dumps to be caused by investors themselves because they sell their tokens when they make a small profit.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: crwth on June 02, 2020, 06:47:08 AM
I have a few concerns about your title and the claim of your topic. I'm quite confused with your last point as well. You are definitely contradicting your claims.

Here are points that bounty hunters aren't responsible for major dumps happening to bounty projects
With your title and this sentence, the "major" word before dumps makes it seems that bounty hunters are still dumping, which they are. You know that bounty hunters make tokens because of the work they do? E.g. sharing articles, like and subscribe, etc. It's basically their time is exchanged with tokens and whatever amount they will be selling doesn't matter because they got it technically for free.

Point 2.
and it's ridiculous if a project dumps because of bounties and airdrops promotions that's suppose to drive in many investors for them
It depends on the project but if it's a scam, the project handlers would dump as well. That's the major contributor to the dumps.

New projects go around giving too good discounts for early investors, an ICO price of 0.01$ turn to 0.005$ for early investors, what are they thinking? The moment this hits exchange and price starts at 0.02$ they will surely dump 💯
You are contradicting yourself with that. They will still dump, especially with that 100% possible gain. Lol.

You can't deny that bounty hunters will dump no matter what. Unless they really support that but I think it's highly unlikely.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: poodle63 on June 02, 2020, 06:51:24 AM
Anyone who still think hunters are responsible for token price dumps is simply naive or can't see what's happening. Most of the dumps are caused by token sale participants who got this tokens together with huge discount and bonuses. Since they don't care about the prices, they sell off their hugely discounted tokens to a point that it crashes the market prices and ruining it all for everyone involved. Some times, hunters don't get paid in time and yet the prices of these projects still dump. Hunters aren't really the ones dumping project prices... .

Tiy forget to mention team members! Many team members are paid high with project coin, and they dump before others, because they know exactly which exchange will list them first and they know the exact time, they can prepare better than all others! Usually, it's what happens, destroying of the project comes from inside, not outside! The team is the most responsible for their project, and they have premined coins, or they got it with contract!
That's the same as what already done by some team of icons. They were dumping it to the buyers before the reward that deserved by the hunters will be distributed. The team has access to the fund and this is the problem.



Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: VDraci on June 02, 2020, 07:03:58 AM
The team should know that bounty hunters will dump their coins for $$$, they are ready to pay that's why they introduce bounty promotions right ?? Then why blaming bounty hunters? It mean the projects are not good enough, look at many projects that paid this year, they still have good value, tokens that bounty hunters sold have no impact on the price, HEX bounty, Velas and Cartesi, they still maintain good value, bad projects will bring bad result


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: bakasabo on June 02, 2020, 07:08:49 AM
The team should know that bounty hunters will dump their coins for $$$, they are ready to pay that's why they introduce bounty promotions right ?? Then why blaming bounty hunters? It mean the projects are not good enough, look at many projects that paid this year, they still have good value, tokens that bounty hunters sold have no impact on the price, HEX bounty, Velas and Cartesi, they still maintain good value, bad projects will bring bad result

Everything depends on the team. There was such bounty as Moozicore. Their bounty pull was bigger than the amount of tokens they sold during numerous rounds of IEO. With early listing they tried to save investors from bankrupt, but when they opened an option to transfer funds from dashboard to hunters wallets - bounty hunters immediately dumped the price.

So the team on first place, and bounty pull on second are the ones who are responsible for dumps.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: pankaj1234 on June 02, 2020, 07:14:25 AM
No I am not agree with the word that bounty hunters dump the price of the coin because bounty allocation is very low in every bounty. If the the project is strong and their ico or ieo has sold out means their has reached their hard cap there will be no problems with bounty hunters coin sell. if you look an example ctsi team has distributed their 1/3 coin to bounty Hunters but the price is still at same level. Project should be a great content based then nothing will happen to their price. In last this is market so everybody has the right to buy or sell whenever they want.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: serjent05 on June 02, 2020, 07:18:35 AM
But you have to realize that if team distributes for example 100 000USD to the bounty participants at a same day and the token doesn´t have enough liquidity, and all of these bounty participants decide to sell, it ia a big selling pressure and the price will fall until its find enough buyers.  ;)

Maybe you are right,,
But, in my opinion not all bounty hunters will sell their rewards after they received mate,,
And maybe if the crowsale from the project succed,, ot at least can reach the soft cap,
why the team do not buy back the token at exchange to keep the trust from crypto investors

Indeed, I am one of those who still hold the token reward from bounties.  Since I believed the project team, I tend to hold my bounty rewards until the project succeeds, alas, lots of these project are already dead and I am left bag holding their worthless tokens.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: Byakuga on June 02, 2020, 07:24:52 AM
Bounty hunters do dump their token shares but for how much? 30k to 100k that's all, bounty allocations aren't even always much and you will see some projects having million trading volume for just 24hrs, how will dumping 30k worth of tokens affect a million dollar trading volume? Oh yes, except if the project is crap, like those projects that used to have 5k trading volume of crap exchanges


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: OasisDre on June 02, 2020, 07:56:12 AM
Saying bounty hunters are responsible for dump is like telling bounty hunters not to sell their tokens for money, that's impossible, teams need bounty hunters to work for them and they do, next time they could use USDT or USDC to pay bounty hunters instead, a matter of fact dumps don't happen because of bounty hunters, people that are paid with just 0.5% of the whole max supply of the project? That's ridiculous accusation


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: Google+ on June 02, 2020, 08:41:30 AM
Saying bounty hunters are responsible for dump is like telling bounty hunters not to sell their tokens for money, that's impossible, teams need bounty hunters to work for them and they do, next time they could use USDT or USDC to pay bounty hunters instead, a matter of fact dumps don't happen because of bounty hunters, people that are paid with just 0.5% of the whole max supply of the project? That's ridiculous accusation
Participants of the bounty campaign should not be able to become a benchmark to bring down the price of cryptocurrency at the exchange place because of the factors that caused the collapse of the cryptocurrency price not only from the bounty campaign but also from the lack of support from the developer to stabilize the price at the exchange.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: Kasabus on June 02, 2020, 08:52:10 AM
But you have to realize that if team distributes for example 100 000USD to the bounty participants at a same day and the token doesn´t have enough liquidity, and all of these bounty participants decide to sell, it ia a big selling pressure and the price will fall until its find enough buyers.  ;)

Maybe you are right,,
But, in my opinion not all bounty hunters will sell their rewards after they received mate,,
And maybe if the crowsale from the project succed,, ot at least can reach the soft cap,
why the team do not buy back the token at exchange to keep the trust from crypto investors

Indeed, I am one of those who still hold the token reward from bounties.  Since I believed the project team, I tend to hold my bounty rewards until the project succeeds, alas, lots of these project are already dead and I am left bag holding their worthless tokens.
That was also my belief way back then. Until i realized that holding my tokens for a period of time won't cause any good but leaving all my tokens worthless. Bounty hunters promote the bounty project to attract investors, and in return, we are paid with tokens which are intended to sell for us to make profits too. It might dump the price of the tokens but it was never our intention so we should not be blame for it.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: Winscosinally on June 02, 2020, 08:57:30 AM
Holding tokens earned from bounties will end in disaster, I always think like this in the past until I learned my lesson, every single tokens I hold are now useless and worthless in my wallet, bounty hunters works for new project to get paid, they have every right to sell off if they feel like, only bad project team complains about bounty rewards


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: qomariah95 on June 02, 2020, 09:49:34 AM
But until now I still see that when the critics project has finished conducting a bounty campaign and the rewards have been distributed. And a dump happens, so the bounty hunter is always the cause of this happening. I always thought that there were not many allocations for bounty hunters, but people always assumed and blamed bounty hunters. whereas in fact, investors also have a larger amount and get a bonus when investing. certainly the effect of the dump is greater.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: Furious 7 on June 02, 2020, 10:32:49 AM
Bounty hunters do dump their token shares but for how much? 30k to 100k that's all, bounty allocations aren't even always much and you will see some projects having million trading volume for just 24hrs, how will dumping 30k worth of tokens affect a million dollar trading volume? Oh yes, except if the project is crap, like those projects that used to have 5k trading volume of crap exchanges
Disposal of tokens will continue to occur because they want to find value even though it is only small. I think almost all distributed tokens will be discarded, but if exchanged have millions of dollars in volume, then this will not affect because they will be strong in any disposal.

But projects are now difficult for such volumes and on average to be listed on a low exchange so their token volume will be small in the market.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: memed97 on June 02, 2020, 10:50:10 AM
Bounty hunters do dump their token shares but for how much? 30k to 100k that's all, bounty allocations aren't even always much and you will see some projects having million trading volume for just 24hrs, how will dumping 30k worth of tokens affect a million dollar trading volume? Oh yes, except if the project is crap, like those projects that used to have 5k trading volume of crap exchanges
Yes, it is very true, because it makes no sense that bounty hunters can dump dump tokens at the market price, because they (Bounty hunters) are only paid in pennies, and even if there is one, so it is very insane for the dump to be priced the one being blamed is the bounty hunter. ;D


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: TheICE007 on June 02, 2020, 11:55:30 AM
I support the motion,going by the happenings,there are several projects that have successfully conducted a bounty campaign without distributing the token, yet the token keeps dipping what could be responsible for that? Would anyone say it's the bounty hunters dumping? So I think it's wrong to attribute dump of a project to bounty hunters.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: litepool.ru on June 02, 2020, 11:58:02 AM
Bounty hunters do dump their token shares but for how much? 30k to 100k that's all, bounty allocations aren't even always much and you will see some projects having million trading volume for just 24hrs, how will dumping 30k worth of tokens affect a million dollar trading volume? Oh yes, except if the project is crap, like those projects that used to have 5k trading volume of crap exchanges
Yes, it is very true, because it makes no sense that bounty hunters can dump dump tokens at the market price, because they (Bounty hunters) are only paid in pennies, and even if there is one, so it is very insane for the dump to be priced the one being blamed is the bounty hunter. ;D
The project only collapses when it has no liquidity. If they distribute 50k $ for bounty but their volume is only about 5-10k $ then it will collapse seriously. And it's the project's fault, not the bounty hunter's fault, those projects are not good enough to have good volume every day.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: Festac on June 02, 2020, 11:58:05 AM
Bounty hunters will eventually dump their tokens, that's what they worked for, why requires their services if you are going to end up blaming them for dumps? This is not cool, other options are available to pay bounty hunters, stable coins for example?


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: Btc_1856 on June 02, 2020, 12:45:35 PM
Bounty hunters will eventually dump their tokens, that's what they worked for, why requires their services if you are going to end up blaming them for dumps? This is not cool, other options are available to pay bounty hunters, stable coins for example?

Actually the companies want to raise money on the basis of bounty advertising and they will not allocate higher percentages to the bounty promotions. Really the dump is caused by the bounty better the company should give the payment in other forms like stable coins, ETH.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: ElmedoRator on June 02, 2020, 12:48:13 PM
Bounty hunters will eventually dump their tokens, that's what they worked for, why requires their services if you are going to end up blaming them for dumps? This is not cool, other options are available to pay bounty hunters, stable coins for example?

Actually the companies want to raise money on the basis of bounty advertising and they will not allocate higher percentages to the bounty promotions. Really the dump is caused by the bounty better the company should give the payment in other forms like stable coins, ETH.
If they make payments using ETH or other altcoins, I think their budget will be very low. I recently saw a campaign to make payments in ETH, but their budget is only 24 ETH. It was really too low for a bounty hunter


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: copoyes on June 02, 2020, 12:59:24 PM
because bounty distribution usually takes a long time even though tokens or coins are open after Ieo / ico so it can't be said that bounty hunters are dumpers of prices, instead we expect token prices to be more than ieo / ico prices and not all tokens / coins from bounties make prices even a little dump is sold because the reward is not too much


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on June 02, 2020, 03:21:21 PM
Bounty hunters will eventually dump their tokens, that's what they worked for, why requires their services if you are going to end up blaming them for dumps? This is not cool, other options are available to pay bounty hunters, stable coins for example?

Can't put it any better than this. Bounty hunters spend a lot of time and effort in popularizing projects, and all they get in the end is blame and abuse. As Festac has posted, if the promoters don't want the hunters to dump their tokens, then the payment can be done in either USDT or Ethereum? But will the greedy promoters be ready for that?


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: mersal on June 02, 2020, 03:36:12 PM
Project team need a reason to mention about their dump so their view always turns into the side of bounty hunters.Bounty pool is too small for the dump but even if that amount don't want to effect the project token's value after listing on exchange why they are not ready pay the hunters in bitcoin?


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: JaoBadjap on June 02, 2020, 03:58:46 PM
yes couldn't agree more.
for example
a coin was sold for a dollar in ICO,
then promo or events for a short period of time, selling 10coins for a dollar.
investors would buy that. and when release comes,
they could dump the token far from its original and supposedly value basing on ICO.
and actually gaining money from it.

sometimes the team and the investors should be blame when dumping strikes and devastated the value of the token



Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: yazher on June 02, 2020, 04:00:25 PM
The reasons why bounty hunters are the reason why the price of some tokens is dump after its lunch from some exchange is they flocked to sold all of their tokens in a single day. just like what I have seen in my ESH token a few days ago. it reaches its all-time high and after a few days, the price went down to -8.994578292 ESH $ 0.91(-93.74%). the problem with the bounty hunter is, they don't have the same mindset and most of them follow the others when they sold their tokens because they fear that the token I mentioned will probably happen to them. can you imagine the highest token you hold will fall down to -93.74% in a single day?


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: tvplus006 on June 02, 2020, 04:32:54 PM
yes couldn't agree more.
for example
a coin was sold for a dollar in ICO,
then promo or events for a short period of time, selling 10coins for a dollar.
investors would buy that. and when release comes,
they could dump the token far from its original and supposedly value basing on ICO.
and actually gaining money from it.

sometimes the team and the investors should be blame when dumping strikes and devastated the value of the token

As a rule, the bounty pool is 1-3% of the total number of coins issued. Therefore, even if all the bounty hunters decide to sell their coins, this will not affect the price in any way. Moreover, the payment for the bounty is carried out much later than the coin begins to be traded on the exchange. And as a rule, by that time the price of the coin is already trading cheaper than the ICO price by several times.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: davinchi on June 02, 2020, 06:28:15 PM
Lower bounty is still better compared to giving your coin that you created and get it dumped. Project managers do not realize that you are creating a currency that could worth hundreds of thousands of dollars easily, also you could reach to millions of dollars if you want to as well.

It means if you do actually end up spending your money on bounty but give back bitcoin, ethereum, usdt or whatever you are going to keep most of your own coin to yourself while getting investments and nobody will be dumping, since they don't dump your coin will worth more. Which one would you pick, giving out millions of your token for bounty but then later they dump it so quickly that your market cap drops by 200k? Or would you like to spend 100 ethereum or 200 ethereum (whatever you want) but then your coins will worth more and more, over 500 ethereum worths more just because they couldn't dump it.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: gabbie2010 on June 02, 2020, 07:02:36 PM
because bounty distribution usually takes a long time even though tokens or coins are open after Ieo / ico so it can't be said that bounty hunters are dumpers of prices, instead we expect token prices to be more than ieo / ico prices and not all tokens / coins from bounties make prices even a little dump is sold because the reward is not too much
Quite unfortunate some of these blames are on bounty hunters despite all their efforts in ensuring a successful promotion of those tokens while waiting endlessly before distribution, a lot of bounty hunters knew that dumping when listed is not the best idea of earning money rather I would blame investors who bought at ICO price with bountiful bonuses while seling off when the coin is listed thus making some small profits.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: Shallow on June 02, 2020, 07:02:54 PM
Projects that goes about blaming bounty hunters are either looking for a way to shift blames or are looking for a reason not to pay, that's the way I see it and it has been looking as such. Take a look at a project delaying rewards for months and then when it gets to distribution date they will look for an excuse. Good projects hardly bothers nor have time to blame bounty hunters or give excuses, they try their best to work on their products such that the platform will always retain a good and valuable look. Also, some projects team are ready to dish out bonuses to attract investors but when the dump comes, they fall back to blame hunters for selling thus exposing how weak they  are.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: WannaCry on June 02, 2020, 08:33:18 PM
i agree with this as my self, a bounty hunter as well.. not all bounty hunters are the one responsible for the dump.. some yes but not at all


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: X-ray on June 03, 2020, 06:07:14 AM
i agree with this as my self, a bounty hunter as well.. not all bounty hunters are the one responsible for the dump.. some yes but not at all
Only some people were selling their coins to the market but we have learned a lot of experience if the majority of hunters are still keep their coin whether it's on wallet or exchange site, The hunters must not be blamed again and never again.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: Zazzu on June 03, 2020, 06:10:47 AM
because bounty distribution usually takes a long time even though tokens or coins are open after Ieo / ico so it can't be said that bounty hunters are dumpers of prices, instead we expect token prices to be more than ieo / ico prices and not all tokens / coins from bounties make prices even a little dump is sold because the reward is not too much
It's hard for you to see the price of a token when trading is higher than the price of an ICO or an IEO. Most projects collapsed when listed because no one was interested in new projects, and caused it to have no liquidity.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: anhhung409 on June 03, 2020, 04:48:48 PM
Only projects that do not focus on developing a real-world application, are canceled when their bounty hunter is rewarded. I guess it's not true that stopping bounty hunters from dumping. Because, that's their income so they have the right to do whatever they want.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: Emilyearl on June 03, 2020, 07:33:14 PM
Bounty hunters are not responsible for token dump on exchanges. Hunters are paid months after the campaign, some projects are long listed on exchange with little or no liquidity. The tokens allocated to hunters are not enough to crash token price on exchange the earlier projects accepts this the better. Hunters


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: retnoanjani on June 03, 2020, 11:22:09 PM
The reasons why bounty hunters are the reason why the price of some tokens is dump after its lunch from some exchange is they flocked to sold all of their tokens in a single day. just like what I have seen in my ESH token a few days ago. it reaches its all-time high and after a few days, the price went down to -8.994578292 ESH $ 0.91(-93.74%). the problem with the bounty hunter is, they don't have the same mindset and most of them follow the others when they sold their tokens because they fear that the token I mentioned will probably happen to them. can you imagine the highest token you hold will fall down to -93.74% in a single day?
Well, is it wrong when I sell rewards in return for my hard work because there are good opportunities?
I think investors have also played a role in the decline, since 2018 it has been very much awaited by the holders of ESH.
So, don't blame anyone, bounty hunters and investors deserve the best opportunity. If there is no buy back, it means that many traders or investors choose to take it off, maybe wait until there is a good development from the team.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: Baoanhbmt on June 05, 2020, 03:21:55 PM
bounty hunters are never the reason for dump, the allocation of funds given to prize hunters is indeed very small, so it has very little effect on the token dump. Those who blame bounty hunters are only trying to hide their weakness. Most of the dumps are caused by token sale participants who got this tokens together with huge discount and bonuses. Since they don't care about the prices, they sell off their hugely discounted tokens to a point that it crashes the market prices and ruining it all for everyone involved.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: pealr12 on June 05, 2020, 03:28:50 PM
Yes thats right im a bounty hunterr and i do not agree to what they say that we bounty hunters are the responsible for dumps, what they dont know is that investors should be blame for dumos becuase of thier greedy to immediately sell for quick profit or maybe the bounty project isnt that good that why they dump the coins.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: BitcoinTurk on June 05, 2020, 03:42:22 PM
Although bounty hunters are known as "Dumper", it is not really right to evaluate these people as such.  Of course, it is possible that the price will decrease to a certain level with the sales transactions of these people, but these people are not responsible for many serious price decreases.  In addition, if we think that the budget allocated by the projects for these campaigns is in the range of 5-8% compared to the circulating supply, we can understand that it is not possible to create the mentioned price drops with such a low amount.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: Dr.Osh on June 05, 2020, 04:04:19 PM
Although bounty hunters are known as "Dumper", it is not really right to evaluate these people as such.  Of course, it is possible that the price will decrease to a certain level with the sales transactions of these people, but these people are not responsible for many serious price decreases.  In addition, if we think that the budget allocated by the projects for these campaigns is in the range of 5-8% compared to the circulating supply, we can understand that it is not possible to create the mentioned price drops with such a low amount.
even 8% is too much, sometimes the allocation is only up to 2% or even thereabouts. however, the first mistake will be the bounty hunter. Well, maybe because the moment is always right that the price reduction occurs when the bounty allocation has been distributed. this has always existed.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: ningrum on June 05, 2020, 05:33:10 PM
yes I strongly agree, indeed the bounty hunter is not a dump! Coins from projects that are not clear will experience dumps that are common,
look at the Cartesi case, even though tokens are distributed the price of CTSI is still good at binance


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: forexandcryptoauditor on June 05, 2020, 09:33:46 PM
I should say even if all bounty hunters sell their tokens, it would not affect the price as the token pool is 5, 3, or even less percentage of total token supply. Its the early, private investors or team who are responsible for price dump.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: AnhEmXe on June 05, 2020, 09:41:27 PM
I don't think that was caused by a bounty hunter. I think it happens because someone, an investor, a project team, or those who have a large number of project tokens and then sell them.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: tanjiran on June 05, 2020, 11:52:42 PM
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New projects go around giving too good discounts for early investors, an ICO price of 0.01$ turn to 0.005$ for early investors, what are they thinking? The moment this hits exchange and price starts at 0.02$ they will surely dump 💯
This is not a problem if there are no more discounts for sales in the next phase. Early investors should get a good appreciation because they want to trust the project, even though the progress is not yet visible.

The problem is that discounts are continually given regardless of the long-term effects. If there is a dump, the bounty hunter is often blamed. Though investors also have the same opportunity. Isn't everyone entitled to benefit from the hard work and effort that has been done?


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: sandos on June 06, 2020, 12:21:50 AM
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New projects go around giving too good discounts for early investors, an ICO price of 0.01$ turn to 0.005$ for early investors, what are they thinking? The moment this hits exchange and price starts at 0.02$ they will surely dump 💯
This is not a problem if there are no more discounts for sales in the next phase. Early investors should get a good appreciation because they want to trust the project, even though the progress is not yet visible.

The problem is that discounts are continually given regardless of the long-term effects. If there is a dump, the bounty hunter is often blamed. Though investors also have the same opportunity. Isn't everyone entitled to benefit from the hard work and effort that has been done?
Sometimes, I get annoyed because everyone blames bounty hunters, but without them, the project would surely be difficult to succeed. I think they worked hard for their work and they deserve it. I feel people in this market are very afraid of the bounty hunter because they always think that bounty hunters can cause the coin value to collapse anytime they feel like it.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: Lagduf on June 06, 2020, 12:29:48 AM
I don't think that was caused by a bounty hunter. I think it happens because someone, an investor, a project team, or those who have a large number of project tokens and then sell them.
There was a lot of factors that can cause the dump for the price of the token. Low liquidity, big bonus, low interest, the bad result of development progress and the hunters can't always be the reason to be blamed when the price is going down. So many scam projects have become scam projects too.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: Flickkk on June 06, 2020, 02:44:56 AM
Here are points that bounty hunters aren't responsible for major dumps happening to bounty projects

Point 1.
Many bounty hunters hold tokens and coins they earn from bounties, not all of them are dumpers,

Point 2.
and it's ridiculous if a project dumps because of bounties and airdrops promotions that's suppose to drive in many investors for them

Point 3.
Bounties allocations are not even up to 1% of the projects max allocations, the most projects I've seen only gives out 0.1% and some even gives out only 0.01%

Point 4.
New projects go around giving too good discounts for early investors, an ICO price of 0.01$ turn to 0.005$ for early investors, what are they thinking? The moment this hits exchange and price starts at 0.02$ they will surely dump 💯

Yes bounty hunters only have the small portion of the coin that are circulating on the market.
Sometimes the creator of the project are involve in a dump where they can manipulate the price and earn from it. But its not about being dump . Because the mindset of bpunty hunters now is to sell their coin asap before it turn into a shit coin


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: Indrawan77 on June 06, 2020, 03:07:23 AM
The one that caused dumping is usually the early investor that got bonuses, most of the bounty hunters also sell their coins when the coin being listed,but the portion is too small to cause dumping, but the funny thing is most of the people believe that bounty hunters that caused the price to fall down


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: Mighty_crypt on June 06, 2020, 08:24:17 AM
Bounty hunters do dump there tokens after bounty ends but the bounty allocations is not enough to drag down the value of the token unless

1. The token is listed on bad exchange
2. The exchange has very low volume
3. The token itself is not good enough and people aren't buying


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: rajakulam on June 06, 2020, 09:16:27 AM
bounty hunters are people who promote projects to attract investors, so if some people consider prize hunters to be dumper, that is not true, especially considering that the allocation given is only 1-5%.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: hushpupppy on June 06, 2020, 10:04:20 AM
I should say even if all bounty hunters sell their tokens, it would not affect the price as the token pool is 5, 3, or even less percentage of total token supply. Its the early, private investors or team who are responsible for price dump.

I think everyone knows this already, and even developers just chose not to refute the claims, Bounty hunters were never responsible for dumps in any instances. It is media pushed narratives to cause bad influences to bounty hunters.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: CryptoTech_ on June 06, 2020, 10:08:17 AM
Bounty hunters do dump there tokens after bounty ends but the bounty allocations is not enough to drag down the value of the token unless

1. The token is listed on bad exchange
2. The exchange has very low volume
3. The token itself is not good enough and people aren't buying
That's right, if the token is listed on a good exchange and has a high volume, of course the bounty will have no effect at all.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: LogitechMouse on June 06, 2020, 10:11:06 AM
Point 1.
Many bounty hunters hold tokens and coins they earn from bounties, not all of them are dumpers,
Not all of them are dumpers I agree but most of them are joining the bounty campaign for the sake of profit so they are playing a big role too in dumping the token aside from the investors and the team itself who are dumping most of the tokens.

Point 2.
and it's ridiculous if a project dumps because of bounties and airdrops promotions that's suppose to drive in many investors for them
These kind of promotions will surely help the project but the dumping of the bounty hunters is inevitable. They aren't the "ONLY" responsible for the dumps but also the investors and the team too.

Point 3.
Bounties allocations are not even up to 1% of the projects max allocations, the most projects I've seen only gives out 0.1% and some even gives out only 0.01%
Yep I agree with this but they also play a role in dumping alongside with the investors and the team :D.

Overall, bounty hunters aren't the "ONLY" one who is responsible for the dumping of the token but also the team and the investors. Lets face it that most of them are just investing or joining just because of the profit and not because of the technology behind the project itself. Yes there are some who choose to hold the token they got but it is a huge risk to them because I don't see any project that didn't dump as they are getting listed on an exchange.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: jcpone on June 06, 2020, 10:24:57 AM
Bounty hunters are not right one to be blame in the price of dumping in the market.
I don't believe on this a piece of shit. Please excuse me for the terms I had bestowed but I am just
stating the fact only. Before bounty hunters can sell their coin rewards the price of the coins
they have is usually already dumped if they can able to trade their coins in the exchange that's the
common thing happened actually.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: pragna on June 06, 2020, 10:38:55 AM
I also think so they never give more than 5% prizes and the bounty hunters also do not sell them directly simultaneously, so if prices go down when listing maybe the project is not good or investors sell most of their coins.

Yes, i can add here about HY token that is given to bounty hunter in every week but i never seen it goes below to 3$ before ICO payments. When june-2 ICO token given its price come to below 1$ even 0.5$ also though its ICO price 2$. So how we can say bounty hunters are dumpers? i think its fully depends on ICO investors.

thanks.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: posporo on June 06, 2020, 12:54:56 PM
Yes, I agree that the allocation that is given to bounty hunters is very low but still even though there's a 1 bounty hunter who dumps a token, it is still had to do with the project. The team and investor ofcourse must also be a fault of it because they have a big amount of token and also they didn't manage the platform right for the sake of the token. There are lots of people who attracts by the price to earn in the project than the good content of the project so still no use for the greed of people.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: Lance203sin on June 06, 2020, 01:00:17 PM
Whales are responsible for dumps as usual. If bounty hunter so rich that we can name him responsible


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: Stanlo on June 06, 2020, 01:05:11 PM
I also think so they never give more than 5% prizes and the bounty hunters also do not sell them directly simultaneously, so if prices go down when listing maybe the project is not good or investors sell most of their coins.
It's even hard to see bounty campaigns that gives up to 5% of their max supply nowadays, Cartesi project only gives 0.10% and so many other bounties too, honestly I haven't joined about with 1% max supply this year so far, its a Stupid claim if teams are insisting that bounty hunters are responsible for value drop.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: Convery on June 06, 2020, 01:43:36 PM
You can solve this problem pretty easy by locking tokens for a defined period of time. For example every month 10% of earned tokens become unlocked and it reduces the selling pressure done by bounty hunters.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: Republikcoin.com on June 06, 2020, 04:16:30 PM
You can solve this problem pretty easy by locking tokens for a defined period of time. For example every month 10% of earned tokens become unlocked and it reduces the selling pressure done by bounty hunters.
it doesn't solve the problem if the project isn't really developed. honestly, I've seen a lot of projects that are really broken because of something like this. it even creates a dump price for each token distribution. however, the best way to avoid this is to attract lots of users, and that is the job of the developer. however, the bounty hunter is not entirely wrong in this matter, because I feel this is a common thing, so developers must think of strategies to avoid dumps caused by bounty hunter sales.


Title: Re: Bounty hunters aren't responsible for dumps
Post by: alisonwonder on June 06, 2020, 04:51:36 PM
You can solve this problem pretty easy by locking tokens for a defined period of time. For example every month 10% of earned tokens become unlocked and it reduces the selling pressure done by bounty hunters.
if you apply this method it will only give a loss because the assets in the form of cryptocurrency that you have if stored in an exchange or stored anywhere will never be able to provide a guaranteed profit because the cryptocurrency price movements will never be known to go up or down even bitcoin too like that.