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Economy => Scam Accusations => Topic started by: Chriskelani on June 02, 2020, 08:27:44 PM



Title: I HAVE JUST BEEN SCAMMED USING BITCOIN LAUNDRY MIXER
Post by: Chriskelani on June 02, 2020, 08:27:44 PM
I sent 2BTC to the deposit address provided for me to send BTC. After I sent 2BTC to this address the deposit address changed to another deposit address. After 6 confirmations it is still showing awaiting deposit. Before now I used this mixer to mix a small amount and it was paid to the receiver address I provided.

Nobody should use Bitcoin Laundry -https://bitcoin-laundry.com because it is a SCAM SITE.

Can anyone tell me the most reliable bitcoin mixer?

Thanks


Title: Re: I HAVE JUST BEEN SCAMMED USING BITCOIN LAUNDRY MIXER
Post by: Lauda on June 02, 2020, 08:30:05 PM
1) Sorry for your loss.
2) This is a scam accusation thread - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0.
3) Stop using shady mixers, and trust nobody unless already extensively proven by others to be trustable. Then trust little.
4) Use Wasabi for Coinjoin mixing - https://www.wasabiwallet.io/.
5) Use Chipmixer for traditional mixing - https://chipmixer.com/.


Title: Re: I HAVE JUST BEEN SCAMMED USING BITCOIN LAUNDRY MIXER
Post by: pixie85 on June 02, 2020, 08:36:03 PM
Next time just use a trusted service with real positive reviews like chipmixer.

IMO using a mixer isn't really worth it. I'd rather buy an anonymous altcoin and then convert back to BTC on a site that doen't require KYC but your money your choice ;)


Title: Re: I HAVE JUST BEEN SCAMMED USING BITCOIN LAUNDRY MIXER
Post by: Lauda on June 02, 2020, 08:39:29 PM
I'd rather buy an anonymous altcoin and then convert back to BTC on a site that doen't require KYC but your money your choice ;)
If you only knew what you were talking about. You are being sold promises of anonymity that can not be realized.


Title: Re: I HAVE JUST BEEN SCAMMED USING BITCOIN LAUNDRY MIXER
Post by: JeromeTash on June 02, 2020, 09:45:20 PM
They have a habit of mixing small amounts of bitcoins but when you trust them and send large amounts, you get scammed right away. It sad that you got scammed even after warnings by other scammed members had already been put across.

1.  This user lost 12 BTC
What happened: bitcoin-laundry.com will STEAL YOUR LARGE AMOUNT DEPOSIT!!!

After I sent coins to the provided address, I refreshed the page, and the deposit address surprisedly changed to another one 359cX3M8L8gb3X1SGPVdQH3EeJvQ5cCiuS, while the page still shows "Waiting for Bitcoin".

This is the transaction of my deposit: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/d1b4919df80249136388b0e17d106c5d51ae7f7075223f5f973e4dc5749d7be0 (https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/d1b4919df80249136388b0e17d106c5d51ae7f7075223f5f973e4dc5749d7be0)

2. Another one lost 6.2 BTC
Hello Everyone,
Bitcoin-Landry.com totally scam they accept to send you the small amount after that they block the big amount
After when you sent the big amount the session ID change automatically
So you will never see the exact session ID because it’s a scam website
Scam scam scam
last week we did 0.1 they acceptable to send it but they stole 6.2btc
The owner of website they speak as a Robot

3. Another Victim
DO NOT USE BITCOIN LAUNDRY!! I took a screenshot of before and after my transaction.
BITCOIN LAUNDRY IS A SCAM! THEY WILL TAKE YOUR MONEY!!
I watched the confirmations and as soon my transaction hit one confirmation, BAMN they changed the receiving address!!
I've messaged their support several times with no response whatsoever.

Before the transaction had one confirmation here's what the session looked like:
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/05/14/blob8a6a92dd5edb44aa.png

After the transaction got one confirmation, the address changed! Look here:
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/05/14/blobd4c1203508f1ce2b.png

Exact Same session ID and as soon as the transaction had one confirmation, they changed the deposit address.


Title: Re: I HAVE JUST BEEN SCAMMED USING BITCOIN LAUNDRY MIXER
Post by: tippytoes on June 02, 2020, 09:51:56 PM
Next time just use a trusted service with real positive reviews like chipmixer.

IMO using a mixer isn't really worth it. I'd rather buy an anonymous altcoin and then convert back to BTC on a site that doen't require KYC but your money your choice ;)

The OP should have checked this forum first before sending that amount. That's a lot already to most of us. At least if he encountered any issue, if he used like chipmixer, he can always post on their thread and I don't think they will ruin their image just by that amount. Anyway, lesson learned. Also, what you are suggesting is really a good option other than using mixer services. Just use a reputable exchange, anyway using that mixer services, you also have to pay a fee.


Title: Re: I HAVE JUST BEEN SCAMMED USING BITCOIN LAUNDRY MIXER
Post by: Harkorede on June 03, 2020, 06:44:49 AM
They have a habit of mixing small amounts of bitcoins but when you trust them and send large amounts, you get scammed right away. It sad that you got scammed even after warnings by other scammed members had already been put across.

Actually, most of these users only make research and inquiry about the legitimacy of a website only after they've sent their funds to it.

The best thing is whether at all the domain registerer or hosting are willing to take this websites down once they're proven scam, to prevent other people from falling victim.


Title: Re: I HAVE JUST BEEN SCAMMED USING BITCOIN LAUNDRY MIXER
Post by: btc_angela on June 03, 2020, 08:24:28 AM
Can anyone tell me the most reliable bitcoin mixer?

Thanks

You can refer to this thread: 2020 List Bitcoin Mixers Bitcoin Tumblers Websites (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2827109.0) by @LeGaulois (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=507856).


Title: Re: I HAVE JUST BEEN SCAMMED USING BITCOIN LAUNDRY MIXER
Post by: FireBallex on June 04, 2020, 09:53:27 AM
I sent 2BTC to the deposit address provided for me to send BTC. After I sent 2BTC to this address the deposit address changed to another deposit address. After 6 confirmations it is still showing awaiting deposit. Before now I used this mixer to mix a small amount and it was paid to the receiver address I provided.

Nobody should use Bitcoin Laundry -https://bitcoin-laundry.com because it is a SCAM SITE.

Can anyone tell me the most reliable bitcoin mixer?

Thanks
Chipmixer is the only legit Bitcoin mixer I know, you should have do research on review before sending your Bitcoin, damn this makes crypto a very unsafe haven, you can lose your money at any time if care is not taken  :( . Sorry for your loss, hope you recover soon


Title: Re: I HAVE JUST BEEN SCAMMED USING BITCOIN LAUNDRY MIXER
Post by: Vod on June 04, 2020, 09:50:24 PM
The best thing is whether at all the domain registerer or hosting are willing to take this websites down once they're proven scam, to prevent other people from falling victim.

That would
1) increase prices as this requires staff
2) widen the attack surface for an enemy
3) lead to censorship, bias, etc. 

Once an AI can detect a scam with 100% certainty and 0% bias, then I would support your suggestion.


Title: Re: I HAVE JUST BEEN SCAMMED USING BITCOIN LAUNDRY MIXER
Post by: Renampun on June 04, 2020, 11:23:10 PM
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First of all, I'm sorry for your loss...
if you ask which Bitcoin mixer is reliable, then I recommend Chipmixer. although I have never used chipmixer, but I see that the review is good and the signature campaign user is a quality member.


Title: Re: I HAVE JUST BEEN SCAMMED USING BITCOIN LAUNDRY MIXER
Post by: Little Mouse on June 05, 2020, 02:07:13 AM
They have a habit of mixing small amounts of bitcoins but when you trust them and send large amounts, you get scammed right away. It sad that you got scammed even after warnings by other scammed members had already been put across.
True, they are selectively scamming for a long time. But still people use it. Although a lot of people have warned about it, the problem is almost all the victim is new in this forum and they had not done enough research before  sending coins. If they were member of this forum, they would use Chipmixer.


Title: Re: I HAVE JUST BEEN SCAMMED USING BITCOIN LAUNDRY MIXER
Post by: Krislaw on June 05, 2020, 09:58:43 PM
This is like the pattern mixer scammers use in all the scamming stories i have been reading. They gain your trust and later scam you.

Always ask questions on forums like this one before taking steps not when you get scammed, no one is going to help, you raised only awareness so others won't get scammed.
Sorry for the loss


Title: Re: I HAVE JUST BEEN SCAMMED USING BITCOIN LAUNDRY MIXER
Post by: jackg on June 05, 2020, 10:12:55 PM
That would
1) increase prices as this requires staff
2) widen the attack surface for an enemy
3) lead to censorship, bias, etc. 
Yep and some companies do that but mst just want their bottom line and the mostp rofitible is the one who lasts the longest especially when even humans make mistakes.

Once an AI can detect a scam with 100% certainty and 0% bias, then I would support your suggestion.

Interesting topic, I've seen computer scientists/linguistics experts suggest that if this happened with copyright law, the entire internet would be pageless (just an interesting thought - but this relies on human brains in the same culture following similar patterns).

IMO using a mixer isn't really worth it. I'd rather buy an anonymous altcoin and then convert back to BTC on a site that doen't require KYC but your money your choice ;)

If you're serious about this:
funds to anonymise → exchange to buy anonymity coin → store offline and wait → different exchange to sell → mixer → either loop back to stages 2 to 4 or stop here.

You could also go to cold storage immediately after a mixer or send it to a different service (such as a TRUSTED mining website to buy a little hosting without kyc or an exchange to buy a common altcoin whos value shouldn't drop so much).

Sending to a classic non kyc'd exchange and exchanging it for altcoins can do well at hiding your tracks as well as sending it to a gambling site and trying to pull out a little more or a little less than what you put in is also not an awful choice (preferably more)...



I also wouldn't do the whole amount at once, even with anonymity coins if they have a change putting 100 DASH into an address and immediately pulling it out is just revealing your tracks to an extent and completely nullifies that task.


Title: Re: I HAVE JUST BEEN SCAMMED USING BITCOIN LAUNDRY MIXER
Post by: TalkStar on June 06, 2020, 10:37:47 AM
This is like the pattern mixer scammers use in all the scamming stories i have been reading. They gain your trust and later scam you.
Most mixer scammers start to steal their users money after increasing their trust level. Investment related scam projects try to attract investors by showing unrealistic profit plans and their success rate is quite lower because modern investors are well notified about fake team, plagiarism, project background and team. Unfortunately awareness about scam mixers haven’t spread like ICO, IEO, Ponzi or Hyip related scams. That's why this kinda mixers are stealing big amount of money just in a single scam.

                       
Always ask questions on forums like this one before taking steps not when you get scammed, no one is going to help, you raised only awareness so others won't get scammed.
Sorry for the loss
Yeah, OP made his mistake here and it was his responsibility to research a little bit about that mixer. Although i don't think still there is any way to get his fund back but this topic may work as a warning for other mixer users. Maybe there is lot of victims like "OP" who lost their money too but we don't know their story.