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Title: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: hushpupppy on June 02, 2020, 08:55:27 PM
The crypto space has experienced so many bullies, and it has been mostly attributed to bounty hunters. Whenever there is a dump; people raise fingers, and attack hunters as the cause of the dumps.

But when you consider most recently hybrix token; the investors got their dividends, and they boldly dumped the token from 3.5$ to 0.5$.
This reinforce claims that no matter how much bounty hunters earn; it is not enough to close down the trade market of crypto coins.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: tycsols on June 02, 2020, 09:12:39 PM
To be honest it is very usual process, even at other financial markets like stock exchanges i have seen the price of dividend paying shares crashing after the investors have received the dividend, these people apparently do not like to wait and take out there money and invest somewhere else and come back again when new dividend is ready.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: copoyes on June 02, 2020, 09:24:03 PM
as usual if there is a dump it must be the scapegoat of the bounty hunters even though if you think about it
the risk of a dump made by the bounty hunter can be seen a little from the distribution of the distribution of tokens to the bounty and rewards per person sometimes a little and in fact most of us sell at high prices hoping prices rise
and the distribution time is also a long time, there is also a lock, a month after the token is in excange

whereas the effect of many dump prices is not just the work of bounty hunters


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: Odebowa on June 02, 2020, 10:08:37 PM
Bounty Hunter reward is minting to the pool, will just say the reward given to bounty Hunters is insignificant to the pool or self they don't earn up to 10-15% of the pool, will just say they are trying to avoid blame or for them not to be blame they transfer the blame to them since most bounty Hunter sell as they received In most cases, but what they sold his insignificant to the pool talkless of affecting the whole project. 


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: Jating on June 02, 2020, 10:47:32 PM
The crypto space has experienced so many bullies, and it has been mostly attributed to bounty hunters. Whenever there is a dump; people raise fingers, and attack hunters as the cause of the dumps.

Bounty hunters is just one part of the equations. There could be manipulators from behind or even the project themselves that causes the big dump in the price.

But when you consider most recently hybrix token; the investors got their dividends, and they boldly dumped the token from 3.5$ to 0.5$.
This reinforce claims that no matter how much bounty hunters earn; it is not enough to close down the trade market of crypto coins.

I'm not familiar with this project, can you explain more why you think the the investors was the one who causes the dump? Or it is that the project hasn't distributed anything to the bounty hunters yet that's why you eliminated them as the reason?


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: Natalim on June 02, 2020, 10:57:23 PM
If you are a bounty hunter, you should get used to it, investors can say whatever they want, so as the bounty hunters as we are in the free world.
They are blaming the bounty hunters but in reality they just want to see the price to dump more so they could accumulate, and there is no room for sensitive people in the crypto space as we are dealing with risk here and we should have enough control with our emotion.

as a bounty hunter, you can do whatever you want,  let them blame you by whatever their words are but once your job is over, you deserve to get paid.

So DUMP and don't look back.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: dongosquad on June 02, 2020, 11:10:47 PM
Actually there are many factors that affect the price of the project. If the project is strong, the product is good, the development is promising, then investors and traders will try their best to get the tokens or coins. This support will strengthen the market, thereby maintaining demand continues to increase so that when there is a sell-off when the bounty hunter receives his reward, it will not have too bad an impact. For example Tachyon, when a bounty hunter gets a reward, there is no severe dump, but the price keeps on rising, I think this is because the product is very good. The importance of strategy and the right timing, as well as the readiness of the dev team, is very visible in situations like this.

So, seeing this fact, the bounty hunter is not the only cause of dump, if the dev team can prepare the right strategy.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: kawetsriyanto on June 02, 2020, 11:22:54 PM
As usual, this will always exist moreover in fact there are some bounty hunters that also do the same, selling the token in very low price in order to convert them to the exact coins. They will prefer to accept any amount as long as they can quickly enjoy the results. Most do not care about future prospects. especially when they have often been disappointed by a project. then they will act according to their wishes.

But when you consider most recently hybrix token; the investors got their dividends, and they boldly dumped the token from 3.5$ to 0.5$.
This reinforce claims that no matter how much bounty hunters earn; it is not enough to close down the trade market of crypto coins.
This condition really makes the bounty hunters don't have any idea to tell. There is sometimes where the investors try to dump the price in order to get more tokens in very low [price from the Bounty hunters.

What we should do is to show and do the wisest acts as bounty hunters, not following to dump the price and will sell them as what the best price exists on the market without dumping.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: Twinkledoe on June 02, 2020, 11:27:54 PM
The crypto space has experienced so many bullies, and it has been mostly attributed to bounty hunters. Whenever there is a dump; people raise fingers, and attack hunters as the cause of the dumps.

Bounty hunters is just one part of the equations. There could be manipulators from behind or even the project themselves that causes the big dump in the price.

But when you consider most recently hybrix token; the investors got their dividends, and they boldly dumped the token from 3.5$ to 0.5$.
This reinforce claims that no matter how much bounty hunters earn; it is not enough to close down the trade market of crypto coins.

I'm not familiar with this project, can you explain more why you think the the investors was the one who causes the dump? Or it is that the project hasn't distributed anything to the bounty hunters yet that's why you eliminated them as the reason?

I am wondering that as well. Is the number of tokens dumped big enough that investors or the team themselves are the only ones holding that amount of tokens? Lil bit familiar with this project as I've seen they have ongoing sig campaign right now. But not familiar with the ongoing trading of this token in the exchange.

If you see that the numbers are big as compared to their bounty allotment, then start doubting the project itself. And if possible, stay away from that token.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: JeffBrad12 on June 02, 2020, 11:33:55 PM
To be honest it is very usual process, even at other financial markets like stock exchanges i have seen the price of dividend paying shares crashing after the investors have received the dividend, these people apparently do not like to wait and take out there money and invest somewhere else and come back again when new dividend is ready.
That will be happening if there was no enough liquidity in the market that can prevent the dump to happen. We can take a look at tezos and it's always distributing the annual yield for the stakers and i think the stakers were actually dumping it but nothing happen caused by the liquidity is enough to prevent it to happen. The hunters must not always be blamed to cause the dump of the price.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: imoet on June 03, 2020, 12:13:13 AM
The crypto space has experienced so many bullies, and it has been mostly attributed to bounty hunters. Whenever there is a dump; people raise fingers, and attack hunters as the cause of the dumps.

But when you consider most recently hybrix token; the investors got their dividends, and they boldly dumped the token from 3.5$ to 0.5$.
This reinforce claims that no matter how much bounty hunters earn; it is not enough to close down the trade market of crypto coins.

Nowadays people react as their wish. They do that only because they want to fulfill their need too.  If we consider it is as bad thing.  Just do not support them by following what they want. As bounty hunters,  we must be wise in facing market situation. 


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: patz22 on June 03, 2020, 02:04:24 AM
We are not on that same market last 2017-2018 wherein bounty hunters can be blamed when there is a dump because they are releasing it early on the same date of listing wherein hunters do not really value the token/coin, not saying all but most of them, to tell you honestly back then, whenever I receive my bounty, I am releasing it right away but nowadays, bounty is not even affecting the market, sometimes it even help the growth of volume in the market


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: bgaf on June 03, 2020, 04:44:17 AM
The crypto space has experienced so many bullies, and it has been mostly attributed to bounty hunters. Whenever there is a dump; people raise fingers, and attack hunters as the cause of the dumps.
Thats the sad fact soing bounty. Some investors are attacking the hunters for dumping the price but the truth is they are the one doing the dumping and just putting all the blame on the hunters.

This is not new and will always be the problematic issue on campaigns. Maybe you just need to ignore thosw guys raising fingers cause its obvious that they cant accept the fact that they are losing penny for the crash.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: judeafante on June 03, 2020, 05:15:27 AM
The crypto space has experienced so many bullies, and it has been mostly attributed to bounty hunters. Whenever there is a dump; people raise fingers, and attack hunters as the cause of the dumps.

But when you consider most recently hybrix token; the investors got their dividends, and they boldly dumped the token from 3.5$ to 0.5$.
This reinforce claims that no matter how much bounty hunters earn; it is not enough to close down the trade market of crypto coins.
The one to blame is the project, even investors are going to dump the coin if they did not see any development and improvement on the project, bounty hunters are like investors if they see that coin has potential it is on a big exchange, they will be a fool if they dumped it, no bounty hunters will dump all his share.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: rodskee on June 03, 2020, 05:23:40 AM
The crypto space has experienced so many bullies, and it has been mostly attributed to bounty hunters. Whenever there is a dump; people raise fingers, and attack hunters as the cause of the dumps.

But when you consider most recently hybrix token; the investors got their dividends, and they boldly dumped the token from 3.5$ to 0.5$.
This reinforce claims that no matter how much bounty hunters earn; it is not enough to close down the trade market of crypto coins.

Come on men,this same story has been on the forum for years now and that is about Blaming Bounty hunters as
 the token/coins suddenly drop because the truth
behind this is the ICO world has change since 2017 because the years before that Bounty hunters has been the
 first to receive thats why the trend of blaming
them is there as the firstb who sell their before the investors.

but these days?it is the Investors who has the first hand so if you wanna blame someone?then those are the
 investors and not Bounty Hunters.

We are not on that same market last 2017-2018 wherein bounty hunters can be blamed when there is a dump because they are releasing it early on the same date of listing wherein hunters do not really value the token/coin, not saying all but most of them, to tell you honestly back then, whenever I receive my bounty, I am releasing it right away but nowadays, bounty is not even affecting the market, sometimes it even help the growth of volume in the market

same thoughts here mate because i have seen those days and the trend has already change now and we won't
have that same in our years now.

Ps: Please stop this kind of thread because it's been already exposed and not new from all of us.



Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: TanakabZX on June 03, 2020, 05:23:48 AM
The crypto space has experienced so many bullies, and it has been mostly attributed to bounty hunters. Whenever there is a dump; people raise fingers, and attack hunters as the cause of the dumps.

But when you consider most recently hybrix token; the investors got their dividends, and they boldly dumped the token from 3.5$ to 0.5$.
This reinforce claims that no matter how much bounty hunters earn; it is not enough to close down the trade market of crypto coins.
I never joined hybrix bounty campaign but I did heard on a telegram channel yesterday about the dump, since bounty hunters haven't been paid yet then who do the dumps if not the investors? The real truth is investors don't want to hold coins anymore, they are now after quick gains


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: Zazzu on June 03, 2020, 05:34:24 AM
If the project has no liquidity, it will surely be dumped by a large number of tokens from bounty. It is not the fault of bounty hunter, projects need to improve their volume to avoid dump when distributing bounty or airdrop.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: Blue_oxen on June 03, 2020, 05:46:55 AM
If the project has no liquidity, it will surely be dumped by a large number of tokens from bounty. It is not the fault of bounty hunter, projects need to improve their volume to avoid dump when distributing bounty or airdrop.
True! Stop blaming us - bounty hunters. A project token will have a better price if that project has a great plan and the project team does the great work! It all depends on the ability of the team. Bounty hunters just jump in-and-out in a project to make a profit. They're not the ones who follows along with a project like long-term investors or holders! Therefore, stop blaming us!!!


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: Mighty_crypt on June 03, 2020, 05:55:46 AM
Bounty Hunter reward is minting to the pool, will just say the reward given to bounty Hunters is insignificant to the pool or self they don't earn up to 10-15% of the pool, will just say they are trying to avoid blame or for them not to be blame they transfer the blame to them since most bounty Hunter sell as they received In most cases, but what they sold his insignificant to the pool talkless of affecting the whole project. 
Yup you are right dude, bounty pool allocations are not always up to 5% of the total supply of the coin, but coins sold to investors can be up to 50% of max supply and again at a ridiculous high discount, this is definitely what drags the value down not the share of bounty hunters


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: pilosopotasyo on June 03, 2020, 06:35:56 AM
The crypto space has experienced so many bullies, and it has been mostly attributed to bounty hunters. Whenever there is a dump; people raise fingers, and attack hunters as the cause of the dumps.

But when you consider most recently hybrix token; the investors got their dividends, and they boldly dumped the token from 3.5$ to 0.5$.
This reinforce claims that no matter how much bounty hunters earn; it is not enough to close down the trade market of crypto coins.

No, it has not proven the developer should look ahead on the bounty allocation that they are going to give, that is why he is allocating a small percentage because he knows that making the rewards bigger will have an impact if there is going to have a dump, that is why we don't see 20 to 30% of the supply for rewards, it's a disaster if they are going to do that.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: Retainly_Collie on June 03, 2020, 06:40:44 AM
The crypto space has experienced so many bullies, and it has been mostly attributed to bounty hunters. Whenever there is a dump; people raise fingers, and attack hunters as the cause of the dumps.

But when you consider most recently hybrix token; the investors got their dividends, and they boldly dumped the token from 3.5$ to 0.5$.
This reinforce claims that no matter how much bounty hunters earn; it is not enough to close down the trade market of crypto coins.

No, it has not proven the developer should look ahead on the bounty allocation that they are going to give, that is why he is allocating a small percentage because he knows that making the rewards bigger will have an impact if there is going to have a dump, that is why we don't see 20 to 30% of the supply for rewards, it's a disaster if they are going to do that.
If a project offers 20-30% of the total supply for bounty, it's really a bullshit and scam project. Only 1-2% for bounty has caused the project to collapse, and if they set a higher budget then their project will surely fail and no one will invest and buy them.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: Malam90 on June 03, 2020, 08:01:01 AM
The crypto space has experienced so many bullies, and it has been mostly attributed to bounty hunters. Whenever there is a dump; people raise fingers, and attack hunters as the cause of the dumps.

But when you consider most recently hybrix token; the investors got their dividends, and they boldly dumped the token from 3.5$ to 0.5$.
This reinforce claims that no matter how much bounty hunters earn; it is not enough to close down the trade market of crypto coins.

Right, many people raise hands against bounty hunters when they see dump price but yesterday i have witnessed a huge dump ($3.5 to $0.3) by the investors after they get tokens from the team. It proves that bounty hunters hold only 1% or less tokens of total supply and it is not fully responsible for the price dump. Rather investors hold huge % of supply. If they try to sell randomly, it will affect on the price.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: leea-1334 on June 03, 2020, 02:07:08 PM
The crypto space has experienced so many bullies, and it has been mostly attributed to bounty hunters. Whenever there is a dump; people raise fingers, and attack hunters as the cause of the dumps.

But when you consider most recently hybrix token; the investors got their dividends, and they boldly dumped the token from 3.5$ to 0.5$.
This reinforce claims that no matter how much bounty hunters earn; it is not enough to close down the trade market of crypto coins.

Investors got their dividends like you said and they thought this made it worthwhile to dump. And who would not when they guarantee profit? They probably thought they could always buy back even cheaper after the dump, which they did.

I have to say hunters are part of dumpers so they also deserve to get the blame, why not?

They all played the game and would have dumped if they could, so why all the crying?


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: hushpupppy on June 03, 2020, 02:26:50 PM
The crypto space has experienced so many bullies, and it has been mostly attributed to bounty hunters. Whenever there is a dump; people raise fingers, and attack hunters as the cause of the dumps.

But when you consider most recently hybrix token; the investors got their dividends, and they boldly dumped the token from 3.5$ to 0.5$.
This reinforce claims that no matter how much bounty hunters earn; it is not enough to close down the trade market of crypto coins.

No, it has not proven the developer should look ahead on the bounty allocation that they are going to give, that is why he is allocating a small percentage because he knows that making the rewards bigger will have an impact if there is going to have a dump, that is why we don't see 20 to 30% of the supply for rewards, it's a disaster if they are going to do that.
If a project offers 20-30% of the total supply for bounty, it's really a bullshit and scam project. Only 1-2% for bounty has caused the project to collapse, and if they set a higher budget then their project will surely fail and no one will invest and buy them.

This is not right, in my 1 year of participating in bounty campaigns, i have never seen a bounty cap of 20% -30% of the project total supply.
Also, the highest % token allocation has always been between 1% to 5% of the total supply.

And out of that 1-5% token for bounty, the team will slash reward by 3, in 85% of the cases, while, 10% of the cases, there will be no payment at all.

Only 5% of bounties have been a success. So what are you preaching ?


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: minairia3 on June 03, 2020, 03:00:31 PM
If a project offers 20-30% of the total supply for bounty, it's really a bullshit and scam project. Only 1-2% for bounty has caused the project to collapse, and if they set a higher budget then their project will surely fail and no one will invest and buy them.
Its rare to see a project offering this big. Maybe none in my entire life of doing bounty. Not sure about the higher the budget it will collapse the market. There is a thing called improvised, even the rewards are big they can do a montly distribution and divide those reward fairly so it would not absurdly drop the market. I seen this being done on some project and it actually helps. The latest one is cartesi project which divided into three parts even though their budget is not that big but good strategy to avoid massive dump.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: Dart18 on June 03, 2020, 03:06:32 PM
What's 2 percent of the total token amount?
How come they would blame bounty hunters for that amount?  ;D
They are just looking for someone to blame it to.
The real problem was, they are lazy marketing the project and just want to have rest after they claim all the offering that was made.
It's the truth.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: Deeshawn on June 03, 2020, 03:19:28 PM
Is clear bounty hunters don't have what it takes to bring down the price of any coin on exchange, only investors does that or the project core team due to the huge amount of token they are holding. No project can offer more than 20% of the total supply to bounty hunters while one investor can decides to buy upto 20% of the total supply and crash the price anytime he/she feels like selling.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: 103deltafox on June 03, 2020, 03:39:57 PM
So many reasons not to put blame of dump on bounty hunter, imagine the crash of Hy, I saw it also at $3+ was surprised also to see it was below $1, and I think that was as a result of investors receiving their dividend.
Why would anyone see hunters as price crashers,because if you consider the bounty pool, it's so much insignificant,so I think the blame should be reduced.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: TheICE007 on June 03, 2020, 03:59:27 PM
It's obvious now that bounty hunters are not to blame for project dump, over time it has been seen that even without hunters get their reward, some project dumps,right now I know of a project that dumped before it even distributed the first round of bounty tokens, and still down yet hunters haven't received reward completely, so I think there are so much reasons to stop putting blame on bounty hunters.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: Pirate46Mx on June 03, 2020, 04:19:08 PM
the dump effect is not only from bounty hunters but is caused by investors who have sold their tokens in large quantities because the allocation given to bounty hunters is around 1-5% only.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: MuhNofa on June 03, 2020, 04:22:28 PM
The crypto space has experienced so many bullies, and it has been mostly attributed to bounty hunters. Whenever there is a dump; people raise fingers, and attack hunters as the cause of the dumps.

But when you consider most recently hybrix token; the investors got their dividends, and they boldly dumped the token from 3.5$ to 0.5$.
This reinforce claims that no matter how much bounty hunters earn; it is not enough to close down the trade market of crypto coins.

if for the time being most things like this are related to boounty hunters and almost everything that always becomes the scapegoat is a bounty hunter which if you think like that I think it could be an option where bounty hunter is not a problem if there is a dump price of a token.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: sana54210 on June 03, 2020, 05:40:00 PM
The crypto space has experienced so many bullies, and it has been mostly attributed to bounty hunters. Whenever there is a dump; people raise fingers, and attack hunters as the cause of the dumps.

But when you consider most recently hybrix token; the investors got their dividends, and they boldly dumped the token from 3.5$ to 0.5$.
This reinforce claims that no matter how much bounty hunters earn; it is not enough to close down the trade market of crypto coins.
No lies about this. Investors are the ones that should be blamed and not bounty hunters.
Those that created the token has already set out the money to pay bounty hunters because they know from the start that's what they are meant to do.

Bounty are doing their own part of the job helping to create awareness for the token, and the tokens they receive at the end is their payment and there is nothing wrong with them selling it, that's their main purpose of doing that job at first. Investors are the ones we should blame, because they will invest and once the project is a little high they will start dumping it. Impatience!


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: acdc on June 03, 2020, 05:44:39 PM
The main reason why a project becomes a landfill is that the project is not attractive to investors, they feel the project has no future and withdraw from it.
Besides, the rewards of the bonus program account for very little of the total coins sold, so it cannot be concluded that the bounty hunter affects the price of the project.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: xZork on June 03, 2020, 05:49:57 PM
There are many factors that affect the price and success of a project, investors will base on their judgment to make their decision. A normal project will spend about 1 ~ 2% on the bonus program so the bounty hunter cannot make the price of a project lower than 2%.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: Natalim on June 03, 2020, 09:55:37 PM
The main reason why a project becomes a landfill is that the project is not attractive to investors, they feel the project has no future and withdraw from it.
Besides, the rewards of the bonus program account for very little of the total coins sold, so it cannot be concluded that the bounty hunter affects the price of the project.
Exactly, it's the team members responsibility to attract investors and ensure that the coin will not dump because of the bounty hunters.
They are the one who set the bounty reward so they have a better picture on what will possibly happen in the future.

What I noticed is that, legit bounty project offers very little reward while bad projects offers big bounty rewards, it looks like the opposite is happening.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: qazgroup on June 03, 2020, 10:18:37 PM
The crypto space has experienced so many bullies, and it has been mostly attributed to bounty hunters. Whenever there is a dump; people raise fingers, and attack hunters as the cause of the dumps.

But when you consider most recently hybrix token; the investors got their dividends, and they boldly dumped the token from 3.5$ to 0.5$.
This reinforce claims that no matter how much bounty hunters earn; it is not enough to close down the trade market of crypto coins.
I think it depends from campaign to campaign and project to project sometimes dump is brought about by the selling of bounty rewards especially when the bounty rewards are big enough because many hunters rush to sell irrespective of market condition, project phase and price.
In your campaign definitely hunters are not involved as i have studied the campaign and reward was very small and also that was not distributed to hunters so clearly the market dump was brought about by investors and traders.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: ZincUnrated on June 03, 2020, 10:49:46 PM
It baffles me why most people still believe bounty hunters are responsible for price crashes or dumps in exchanges. Truth is, bounty hunters only hold a fraction of the total allocation which often times isn't up to 5% of the total supply of tokens and they are always the first to be blamed once prices start crashing. They forget totally that these investors often get discounted token prices and as such, they are okay with dumping them for the slightest profits.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: retnoanjani on June 03, 2020, 11:03:53 PM
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Bounty are doing their own part of the job helping to create awareness for the token, and the tokens they receive at the end is their payment and there is nothing wrong with them selling it, that's their main purpose of doing that job at first. Investors are the ones we should blame, because they will invest and once the project is a little high they will start dumping it. Impatience!
I also wonder why bounty hunters are blamed for selling the rewards they get after working hard? this is really unfair.
Actually the role of investors, dev, bounty hunter, and all aspects of this support influence each other. Just because a bounty hunter is considered to be a coin or token "for free" when in fact it is not because bounty hunters must do "work according to the rules" to get rewards.
So please don't blame each other.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: Kasabus on June 03, 2020, 11:21:19 PM
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Bounty are doing their own part of the job helping to create awareness for the token, and the tokens they receive at the end is their payment and there is nothing wrong with them selling it, that's their main purpose of doing that job at first. Investors are the ones we should blame, because they will invest and once the project is a little high they will start dumping it. Impatience!
I also wonder why bounty hunters are blamed for selling the rewards they get after working hard? this is really unfair.
Actually the role of investors, dev, bounty hunter, and all aspects of this support influence each other. Just because a bounty hunter is considered to be a coin or token "for free" when in fact it is not because bounty hunters must do "work according to the rules" to get rewards.
So please don't blame each other.
Yes. Bounty hunters should not be blamed for the dumping of tokens because selling their rewards is the only way where they can make profits particularly if they have sell them at a good price. Investors actually might be even responsible for this and not those small earners bounty hunters who make lots of effort in promoting the project.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: ampere on June 03, 2020, 11:42:37 PM
The blame game is not restricted only to the blockchain, but in the social lifes of every human and it is only evident in most cases when as humans we refuse to take responsibility.

When a token does not do well in price or volume on the crypto currency market; there are several factors involved, but when the dev team refuses to be transparent; they shift the blame to certain investors who dumped and took profits from the token; investors who feels aggrieved at not selling or selling, and does not want to take responsibility for crashing the trade market, would also shift the blame to bounty hunters who have earned freebies.

The blame will continue, unless and until, project development team stop giving excessive bonus token to private investors and ieo investors. It leaves investors at an advantage of dumping any time, and still be in profit.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: Zemomtum on June 03, 2020, 11:58:47 PM
Bounties hunters are always the ones to blame when project dumps on the exchange. They don't think about 50%+ bonus they are giving during IEO and ICO. What is even the total budget in terms of percent that is normally allocated for bounty? most often it is less than 1%, the project owners and the team should be responsible for any dump


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: acdc on June 04, 2020, 11:47:48 AM
The main reason why a project becomes a landfill is that the project is not attractive to investors, they feel the project has no future and withdraw from it.
Besides, the rewards of the bonus program account for very little of the total coins sold, so it cannot be concluded that the bounty hunter affects the price of the project.


What I noticed is that, legit bounty project offers very little reward while bad projects offers big bounty rewards, it looks like the opposite is happening.
Yes, most good bonus programs often offer little rewards because they can appreciate the value of their project. Bad projects often offer huge rewards with promises but most bounty hunters receive only a heap of rubbish.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: SyndicateLabs on June 04, 2020, 11:55:11 AM
The main reason why a project becomes a landfill is that the project is not attractive to investors, they feel the project has no future and withdraw from it.
Besides, the rewards of the bonus program account for very little of the total coins sold, so it cannot be concluded that the bounty hunter affects the price of the project.


What I noticed is that, legit bounty project offers very little reward while bad projects offers big bounty rewards, it looks like the opposite is happening.
Yes, most good bonus programs often offer little rewards because they can appreciate the value of their project. Bad projects often offer huge rewards with promises but most bounty hunters receive only a heap of rubbish.
Obviously, bullshit projects often offer large budgets to attract participants and promote their projects. The price of the token will then drop several times or even they will never distribute it


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: yazher on June 04, 2020, 12:04:54 PM
Obviously, bullshit projects often offer large budgets to attract participants and promote their projects. The price of the token will then drop several times or even they will never distribute it

They won't even bother to recover the price back to normal when it dumped by their holders. some legit coins like the top coins in the market are making non-stop development to make their investors stay with their project and to attract some investors to invest in them because they saw the activeness and the updates of that project. especially if they collaborated with some big companies and advertisements on some known sites.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: Nellayar on June 04, 2020, 12:17:13 PM
Obviously, bullshit projects often offer large budgets to attract participants and promote their projects. The price of the token will then drop several times or even they will never distribute it

They won't even bother to recover the price back to normal when it dumped by their holders. some legit coins like the top coins in the market are making non-stop development to make their investors stay with their project and to attract some investors to invest in them because they saw the activeness and the updates of that project. especially if they collaborated with some big companies and advertisements on some known sites.
This is the main factor that we must consider in investing ICO or IEO. If the project that we will lend our money is deserving or not. A lot of projects are blaming bounty hunters for greediness in selling their coins in market. But if their project works and develops, does bounty hunters will sell at a lower price?
A lot of project exist becomes shit. And this is the reason why I left bounty campaigns.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: Sterbens on June 04, 2020, 01:01:58 PM
Obviously, bullshit projects often offer large budgets to attract participants and promote their projects. The price of the token will then drop several times or even they will never distribute it

They won't even bother to recover the price back to normal when it dumped by their holders. some legit coins like the top coins in the market are making non-stop development to make their investors stay with their project and to attract some investors to invest in them because they saw the activeness and the updates of that project. especially if they collaborated with some big companies and advertisements on some known sites.

If a legitimate project does not need to be doubted anymore because they will continue to be active in its development, even their own products are still running, of course this will also affect the value of tokens in the market.
But their bullshit project will continue to offer great rewards and even be half-hearted in that, which makes the hunters even more fascinated to join the path that is not true.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: skeleto88 on June 04, 2020, 02:27:42 PM
Why they hunters are always to blame? Simply because they see hunters don't care about the project, once the job done and have rewards they can sell off their rewards like no one cares. They don't think of investors, whales or anyone manipulating the flow of the market of the tokens. They are just for someone to blame and that's always the hunters.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: coiner-88 on June 04, 2020, 04:13:48 PM
Bounty hunters have been arrested for killing the fugitive or apprehending the wrong individuals, mistaking innocent people for fugitives. Unlike police officers, they have no legal protections against injuries to non-fugitives and few legal protections against injuries to their targets. Bounty hunters are the subject of a new BBC Three documentary, presented by Stacey Dooley. In many US states, people with no police powers, and sometimes no training.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: Smitty Werben Man Jensen on June 04, 2020, 05:21:05 PM
Why they hunters are always to blame? Simply because they see hunters don't care about the project, once the job done and have rewards they can sell off their rewards like no one cares. They don't think of investors, whales or anyone manipulating the flow of the market of the tokens. They are just for someone to blame and that's always the hunters.
Bounty hunter only gets a few prizes from the project, no more than $ 1000, getting $ 5 - $ 10 alone is very happy, already a risk to be ridiculed by others,
just a note, what makes the price of a dump project is investors  :) not hunters!


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: Guryon_master on June 04, 2020, 06:05:42 PM
The crypto space has experienced so many bullies, and it has been mostly attributed to bounty hunters. Whenever there is a dump; people raise fingers, and attack hunters as the cause of the dumps.

But when you consider most recently hybrix token; the investors got their dividends, and they boldly dumped the token from 3.5$ to 0.5$.
This reinforce claims that no matter how much bounty hunters earn; it is not enough to close down the trade market of crypto coins.
Well,  that's part of the game. What can bounty hunters can do to stop them? And besides bounty hunters are the easiest group to blame when everything went bad which means the very reasonable response we can give is to move on and let their fingers point them in the end.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: agf on June 04, 2020, 07:01:47 PM
If you are a bounty hunter, you should get used to it, investors can say whatever they want, so as the bounty hunters as we are in the free world.
They are blaming the bounty hunters but in reality they just want to see the price to dump more so they could accumulate, and there is no room for sensitive people in the crypto space as we are dealing with risk here and we should have enough control with our emotion.

as a bounty hunter, you can do whatever you want,  let them blame you by whatever their words are but once your job is over, you deserve to get paid.

So DUMP and don't look back.

This is pretty much exactly how I feel about it, you may as well do whatever because they've already decided how they feel about us and will say whatever they want regardless of how we act.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: pandanaran on June 04, 2020, 08:00:04 PM
as we know that being a bounty hunter or project promoter certainly has a risk to each other, especially about the collapse of the price of the token after being listed on the stock exchange or the risk of not being able to sell when the token price is high. this is the risk of being a bounty hunter, it is important for you to stay focused on your work.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: Metall303 on June 04, 2020, 08:43:57 PM
I have seen so many times how very strong coin price dumps took place before bounty hunters got their rewards. I myself received coins so many times when my reward for months of work costs about 5-10 dollars. so I’m sure  100 % that the problem is not in bounty hunters but in scam projects teams


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: luckyflop on June 05, 2020, 08:41:40 AM
I have seen so many times how very strong coin price dumps took place before bounty hunters got their rewards. I myself received coins so many times when my reward for months of work costs about 5-10 dollars. so I’m sure  100 % that the problem is not in bounty hunters but in scam projects teams
Obviously bounty hunter does not cause the price to collapse. Since 2018, I've seen a lot of projects crash before the bounty hunters get their tokens. And as you said, if the project collapses it is their fault. Their project is not good enough and there is not enough liquidity to maintain a stable price


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: winterlemon912 on June 05, 2020, 08:49:03 AM
The crypto space has experienced so many bullies, and it has been mostly attributed to bounty hunters. Whenever there is a dump; people raise fingers, and attack hunters as the cause of the dumps.

But when you consider most recently hybrix token; the investors got their dividends, and they boldly dumped the token from 3.5$ to 0.5$.
This reinforce claims that no matter how much bounty hunters earn; it is not enough to close down the trade market of crypto coins.
Yes I think that we should stop bounty hunters because just like us they are just trying to earn also and that is great because people are finding ways how to earn here in cryptocurrencies which I think is great and I hope that they can hunt bounties easily without getting that much attention from other people. They should just not de ide on what other people will do and let them do things for themselves as long as they want to earn using that method and they are not messing with other people because they are just doing what they want be sus ethey are enjoying from that


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: Winscosinally on June 05, 2020, 08:57:27 AM
The crypto space has experienced so many bullies, and it has been mostly attributed to bounty hunters. Whenever there is a dump; people raise fingers, and attack hunters as the cause of the dumps.

But when you consider most recently hybrix token; the investors got their dividends, and they boldly dumped the token from 3.5$ to 0.5$.
This reinforce claims that no matter how much bounty hunters earn; it is not enough to close down the trade market of crypto coins.
There will always be bullies on bounty hunters, it's best to ignore and get busy with more serious bounty campaigns, weak projects will always find someone to take the blames, this is normal


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: pankaj1234 on June 05, 2020, 08:57:36 AM
 I don't think we should blame bounty hunters for price falling
Or any price correction in coin beause Bounty hunters funds in any problems might be not over 5% and investors has almost 50% and above. A project price can dump when their ico or ieo has failed and hunters sell their coins very fast. Any project has to be very demanding for society otherwise you can not go away in this market hunters can destroy you very deep.
There is nothing mistake in bounty Hunters we can't blame them.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: BTCbengi on June 05, 2020, 10:51:35 AM
They were just right and undeniable in part because of the bounty hunter's fault. There are many factors that make a project fail. Such as ideas, money delivery traffic, prices, markets, and platforms. If the bounty hunters immediately sell the tokens they receive, the price of the coins goes down immediately. Therefore, bounty hunters are not the leading cause for people to blame.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: stadus on June 05, 2020, 11:39:05 AM
They were just right and undeniable in part because of the bounty hunter's fault. There are many factors that make a project fail. Such as ideas, money delivery traffic, prices, markets, and platforms. If the bounty hunters immediately sell the tokens they receive, the price of the coins goes down immediately. Therefore, bounty hunters are not the leading cause for people to blame.
Economically, the decline in the price of goods or tokens in the market is due to the lack of buying interest and the number of sellers, and indirectly if all bounty hunters directly sell the tokens they get, then the effect of the price reduction is clearly there, but not much, but if only some bounty hunters who sell tokens, I don't think it will influence the price reduction, even if there is a decline, then what makes it is another party, not the bounty hunter.
Indeed, if a project offers reward for the bounty hunter to promote them in crowdsale, they don't need to give a big amount that would result to a dump of the project, the problem is if it dumps, sometimes it will not recover anymore, I've seen a lot of project with that kind of scenario and developers are just living the project while bounty hunters can't sell their reward at the expected value.

Bounty dump, we call it that way as this would also result to a dump of price, in most cases, main reason is the lack of buying interest, you are right with that, and some are the buyers allows the bounty hunters to dump so they can accumulate a cheap tokens.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: poodle63 on June 05, 2020, 12:27:55 PM
The main reason why a project becomes a landfill is that the project is not attractive to investors, they feel the project has no future and withdraw from it.
Besides, the rewards of the bonus program account for very little of the total coins sold, so it cannot be concluded that the bounty hunter affects the price of the project.


What I noticed is that, legit bounty project offers very little reward while bad projects offers big bounty rewards, it looks like the opposite is happening.
Yes, most good bonus programs often offer little rewards because they can appreciate the value of their project. Bad projects often offer huge rewards with promises but most bounty hunters receive only a heap of rubbish.
Obviously, bullshit projects often offer large budgets to attract participants and promote their projects. The price of the token will then drop several times or even they will never distribute it
It can be considered as the main thing to determine the crap project. It's not always working but so many crap projects have already offered a huge allocation to be used for bounties to attract the buyers.



Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: raidarksword on June 05, 2020, 12:45:54 PM
This always been issues pointing fingers to bounty hunters if price dumped on such project, little they know investors can also dump whenever they want and it's always unfair to us hunters always get to blame who just helped a project to succeed in the crypto market. Even all the hard work hunters put into for marketing campaign, people always be little to us hunters that we will also part of the project's success no matter what. Sometimes hunters are treated unequal and getting neglected just like DigitalBits team did to all participants that never got paid for what they deserved for their marketing works.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: homhay on June 05, 2020, 12:54:39 PM
dumps on newly launched coins certainly exist, but the effect of dumping coins by bounty hunters is very small because the allocation of coins given is very small, a big influence when dump coins are only investors where they sell their assets in large quantities.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: Balili on June 05, 2020, 01:08:02 PM
Bounty hunters aren't investors and should not be blamed for any dump. Hunters hunt to cash out and at the end of their work they are being rewarded with little amounts which can't affect the volume of the project when they sell off.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: adibi12 on June 05, 2020, 01:13:16 PM
Such blames have actually occurred from the beginning of 2019, there are even some projects that try to make innovations or new tricks to anticipate the dump of their token prices by making payments in stages or not in total distribution, but many projects fail with that method , I think for now the best method to anticipate this is by buying back, and it has been proven successful, but it returned to the natural team to manage money from investors.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: jcpone on June 05, 2020, 01:13:25 PM
I don't believe that bounty hunters is the main cost of price dumping that is totally wrong and not right.
In my own personal opinion, I think the main cause of dump price of the coins is the developer of the coin
because He's the one who handle the total supply of the coin. Just a thought.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on June 05, 2020, 01:14:24 PM
Bounty hunters aren't investors and should not be blamed for any dump. Hunters hunt to cash out and at the end of their work they are being rewarded with little amounts which can't affect the volume of the project when they sell off.

As I have posted earlier, bounty hunters make up convenient scapegoats. In most cases, a project fails because the developers can't deliver what they promised. Rather than returning the money back to the investors, these people search for excuses. And the most common excuse is obviously the "bounty hunter dumping theory". The situation has remained the same after all these years.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: Davian144 on June 05, 2020, 01:47:27 PM
Very little percentage were allocated to the bounty program,so even if 100% hunters dumps the coin itwould not affects the coin market price
Yes, if we look at the allocation to the bounty hunters obviously very little, and if the bounty hunters throw tokens together into a market, of course the effect will be there is just not so great effect on the price of the tokens, so it is very unnatural if the problem of dump prices tokens in the market that the hunters blame.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: bitgolden on June 05, 2020, 05:38:03 PM
Do not go over people who blame bounty hunters too much. I do agree that bounty hunters are not the only guilty part and in some cases they do not even have any guilt at all because of what happened to a project. However, I also understand the look of investors towards bounty hunters as well, think about it you spent 100 dollars and bought 1 million tokens from a project and expect it to go up and your 100 dollars will be 500 dollars one day when the project x5's but you see people who get tens of millions of dollars combined (not each person but total) by just working and they didn't spent a single dime on that, you get pissed off because you spent real money whereas they just retweeted or whatever and you get mad at it.

I understand it, not that it is right but I get it, because normally those people who work for bounties help that coin get known more, so what they are doing is free but valuable.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: cassavachips on June 05, 2020, 05:46:54 PM
I am glad someone raised this problem. Most people always blame the bounty hunter when the price of the project in exchange experiences a great dump. Whereas the allocation for bounty hunters is very small when compared to the others.

For the Hybrix project, I followed it because it was a good project for me. I had predicted it would experience a big dump when the admin announced it would distribute tokens to investors and that was true. Until now the dump is still ongoing.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: forexandcryptoauditor on June 05, 2020, 08:46:43 PM
It is true that bounty hunters can not be blamed for price dump. As they hold very small portion of token allocation, it should not impact much to the token price.
there is a solution, if projects feel bounty hunters as dumper, they should reward in ETH or BTC so that their toke value can not be lowered due to selling of these.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: dentolas on June 05, 2020, 09:21:06 PM
I think that usually there are a lot of investors dumping to get their quick profit and blaming the hunters... most of times there is not enough coin on the bounty budget to cause such severe dumps....
And on the other hand, a lot of the hunters would surely hold if the project treat them respectfully and gave out some solid clues that they are serious... most of us have already seen to much vanishing projects...


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: kawetsriyanto on June 05, 2020, 09:28:20 PM
if projects feel bounty hunters as dumper, they should reward in ETH or BTC so that their toke value can not be lowered due to selling of these.
Good idea, but it rarely happened. If they pay bounty hunters in ETH or BTC, they must need more funds. Only a few projects supported by established companies that are likely to do this way. or projects which have already had enough funds potentially choose this option. While projects which still have not enough funds, seem not to choose this way.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: 80jutaa on June 05, 2020, 09:31:09 PM
As far as I know, coins or tokens have drastically reduced prices caused by disposal. I mean someone who holds a large amount of coins and then sells them. Prize hunters are scapegoated after the coin price drops.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: Dondeon on June 05, 2020, 09:37:59 PM
I think the allocation of bounty hunters is always small compared to the total supply or circulation supply. I feel that, if the allocation given to bounty hunters can dump the price of a project hard, it means the project itself is not solid or has not arrived yet.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: Innocant on June 05, 2020, 09:54:21 PM
Bounty hunters are only promoting the bounty campaign participated not to dump the price of altcoins in any exchange site. Actually most of the bounty rewards receive from a bounty campaign are still hold because of these the prices of altcoins are always dump, Ill think we blame of it is those people want to earn a small amount of altcoins.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: 10BTCaDay on June 05, 2020, 11:18:40 PM
Bounty hunters are only promoting the bounty campaign participated not to dump the price of altcoins in any exchange site. Actually most of the bounty rewards receive from a bounty campaign are still hold because of these the prices of altcoins are always dump, Ill think we blame of it is those people want to earn a small amount of altcoins.
it is really true. many bounty hunters get paid when the price is already very low and therefore they do not sell their coins immediately   but they leave them for the long term holding


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: Utoy101 on June 05, 2020, 11:39:05 PM
The crypto space has experienced so many bullies, and it has been mostly attributed to bounty hunters. Whenever there is a dump; people raise fingers, and attack hunters as the cause of the dumps.

But when you consider most recently hybrix token; the investors got their dividends, and they boldly dumped the token from 3.5$ to 0.5$.
This reinforce claims that no matter how much bounty hunters earn; it is not enough to close down the trade market of crypto coins.

I can't agree more, what happened to hybrix token due to the massive dump by investors really proof the fact that hunters only do have a little of the tokens that can barely influence a massive dump. Most dumps are usually from team members and investors


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: alisonwonder on June 05, 2020, 11:42:37 PM
Bounty hunters are only promoting the bounty campaign participated not to dump the price of altcoins in any exchange site. Actually most of the bounty rewards receive from a bounty campaign are still hold because of these the prices of altcoins are always dump, Ill think we blame of it is those people want to earn a small amount of altcoins.
it is really true. many bounty hunters get paid when the price is already very low and therefore they do not sell their coins immediately   but they leave them for the long term holding
I think there are some like that and of course when prices fall it is not the fault of the bounty campaign participants but it is purely the fault of the developers who do not provide support for the coin so the price cannot be good, imagine if there is full support from the developers then the price will be stable and potentially rise.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: gundala on June 05, 2020, 11:43:41 PM
However, I also understand the look of investors towards bounty hunters as well, think about it you spent 100 dollars and bought 1 million tokens from a project and expect it to go up and your 100 dollars will be 500 dollars one day when the project x5's but you see people who get tens of millions of dollars combined (not each person but total) by just working and they didn't spent a single dime on that, you get pissed off because you spent real money whereas they just retweeted or whatever and you get mad at it.
I understand your point.
Indeed there are most people who underestimate bounty hunters. They consider bounty hunters to get tokens or coins for free. Even though the bounty hunter must "work" first to get the reward, somehow they still think it's free? If they find the task of the bounty hunter easy, why don't they try it? ::)
I understand, only people who are strong and a patient can become bounty hunters.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: acdc on June 06, 2020, 04:16:19 PM
The main reason why a project becomes a landfill is that the project is not attractive to investors, they feel the project has no future and withdraw from it.
Besides, the rewards of the bonus program account for very little of the total coins sold, so it cannot be concluded that the bounty hunter affects the price of the project.


What I noticed is that, legit bounty project offers very little reward while bad projects offers big bounty rewards, it looks like the opposite is happening.
Yes, most good bonus programs often offer little rewards because they can appreciate the value of their project. Bad projects often offer huge rewards with promises but most bounty hunters receive only a heap of rubbish.
Obviously, bullshit projects often offer large budgets to attract participants and promote their projects. The price of the token will then drop several times or even they will never distribute it
I have encountered many such projects, they often promise great distribution of rewards and great deals. The end of such projects is usually pumping and dumping after which the development team will disappear leaving only a large landfill.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: tbterryboy on June 06, 2020, 05:08:41 PM
The crypto space has experienced so many bullies, and it has been mostly attributed to bounty hunters. Whenever there is a dump; people raise fingers, and attack hunters as the cause of the dumps.

But when you consider most recently hybrix token; the investors got their dividends, and they boldly dumped the token from 3.5$ to 0.5$.
This reinforce claims that no matter how much bounty hunters earn; it is not enough to close down the trade market of crypto coins.
I am on your way. Yes, bounty hunters are not at all the reason for dump because it's a free market anyone can do whatever they want. If the devs are too concerned about the dumps happening after bounty rewards are distributed then they should never go for bounty program. Yes, that is the only way they can avoid dumps when they are not having good project to withstand any kind of dumps.

Like many people have already mentioned, a highly potential project will not bother about dumps happening in the markets time to time because good projects will be having continuous supporters/investors who will give it pumping when there are dips to enter. When devs are not developing a good project which is not attracting investors continuously, they are simply going for blaming bounty hunters for the downfall of market prices of their coin/token.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: Bitbtc8 on June 06, 2020, 05:36:27 PM
Let them blame bounty hunters, they have no one else to blame than us, if developers projects are good enough bounty hunters dumping their tokens will be least of their worries, there are other ways to control dumps like locks or monthly distribution, it's so annoying blame those who help your projects for dump


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: Innocant on June 06, 2020, 09:14:14 PM
Bounty hunters are only promoting the bounty campaign participated not to dump the price of altcoins in any exchange site. Actually most of the bounty rewards receive from a bounty campaign are still hold because of these the prices of altcoins are always dump, Ill think we blame of it is those people want to earn a small amount of altcoins.
it is really true. many bounty hunters get paid when the price is already very low and therefore they do not sell their coins immediately   but they leave them for the long term holding
Ill think it is not the first we experience like that, Since the time participated in bounty campaign we bounty hunters are always be patience about the distribution because of they said a exact  they promise but in the end the price of bounty rewards we receive are in going dump so much. And then most of in here said its because the bounty hunters fault.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: 7788bitcoin on June 06, 2020, 09:17:58 PM
if projects feel bounty hunters as dumper, they should reward in ETH or BTC so that their toke value can not be lowered due to selling of these.
Good idea, but it rarely happened. If they pay bounty hunters in ETH or BTC, they must need more funds. Only a few projects supported by established companies that are likely to do this way. or projects which have already had enough funds potentially choose this option. While projects which still have not enough funds, seem not to choose this way.
If the project is carried on by a reputed team with enough financial backing and if they are conducting giveaway to have more exposure for the coin or token then they could give everyone ETH or bitcoin but majority of the projects are here to get the funds to carry on with their dream project and to experiment where they are going to reach with the funds they collected and if the team is not able to fulfill in time investors will dump the coin before the developers dump them ;D.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: dunfida on June 06, 2020, 09:32:45 PM
if projects feel bounty hunters as dumper, they should reward in ETH or BTC so that their toke value can not be lowered due to selling of these.
Good idea, but it rarely happened. If they pay bounty hunters in ETH or BTC, they must need more funds. Only a few projects supported by established companies that are likely to do this way. or projects which have already had enough funds potentially choose this option. While projects which still have not enough funds, seem not to choose this way.
If the project is carried on by a reputed team with enough financial backing and if they are conducting giveaway to have more exposure for the coin or token then they could give everyone ETH or bitcoin but majority of the projects are here to get the funds to carry on with their dream project and to experiment where they are going to reach with the funds they collected and if the team is not able to fulfill in time investors will dump the coin before the developers dump them ;D.
Thats why its important to spot it out on early phase and you can actually check it out if the said team is financially capable or just simply
depending into its investors itself just for them to make some further steps ex. marketing.Not all would really have the fund though thats
why they do launch up some ICO thats why i cant really trust that up since from the beginning but there were exception in some cases
depending if the project is actually ideal and realistic which you can really think of that it can really have that kind of potential.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: NS-Soul on June 06, 2020, 11:38:24 PM
The crypto space has experienced so many bullies, and it has been mostly attributed to bounty hunters. Whenever there is a dump; people raise fingers, and attack hunters as the cause of the dumps.

But when you consider most recently hybrix token; the investors got their dividends, and they boldly dumped the token from 3.5$ to 0.5$.
This reinforce claims that no matter how much bounty hunters earn; it is not enough to close down the trade market of crypto coins.
Well it was not new for every drop of the campaign the blame was put into a bounty hunter, specially on the investor even if they are the one who dumped the token aside from that sometimes distribution of token was late so it was not possible that the dumper was the bounty hunter they are just putting a blame on someone even if it was not their fault.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: Mpamaegbu on June 07, 2020, 04:20:18 AM
This is a three-way thing:
1. The team
2. The investors
3. The hunters

Any of the above three can dump. I have been a part of a project that the team locked up hunters' rewards and dumped on them as soon as the token was listed on the market. Investors are the worse off. They want to dump before others get to the market and then buy back at a ridiculous price. Well, my take on this is that if the project has utility it normally bounces back after a dump. It's really not a big deal, except that it requires patience to achieve a come back.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: princesspoppy on June 07, 2020, 04:42:11 AM
As we all know, tokens allocated for bounty programs are not that much compared to tokens allocated for investors to invest in. There are many bounty hunters that do not sell at a low price and even wait for the token to pump up in the market. To be honest, it is the investors doing for a dump in the tokens. They are the ones manipulating the market in order to give panic to bounty hunters for them to sell at a low price that will be bought by these investors. It is a form of strategy for them.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: AnhEmXe on June 07, 2020, 05:03:37 AM
no one to blame. the purpose of getting tokens is of course to be sold and profit from it. A reduction in the price of the token after disposal is normal.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: MCobian on June 07, 2020, 05:32:37 AM
This is a harsh reality that is happening now, indeed most people blame bounty hunters if there are new projects that dump after being
distributed to bounty hunters. Though there are many causes that can make the price of tokens dump, even developers and investors
can be the cause tokens price dump. It's not fair to just blame bounty hunters, and it's best not to blame each other if there are new projects
that are dumping. It is better to make a special strategy that can make prices rise, because all the problems there must be a solution.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: SyndicateLabs on June 07, 2020, 05:40:06 AM
Let them blame bounty hunters, they have no one else to blame than us, if developers projects are good enough bounty hunters dumping their tokens will be least of their worries, there are other ways to control dumps like locks or monthly distribution, it's so annoying blame those who help your projects for dump
Projects that blame bounty hunters are scams and have no future. If their project is good and listed at major exchanges, I believe the price will never collapse when bounty is distributed. I even saw hundreds of projects collapsed before the tokens were distributed to bounty hunters


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: Tomohisa on June 07, 2020, 10:40:27 AM
You need to look deeper because in some cases, the bounty hunters do have a fair share for the price fall on exchange. Those cases I want to talk about is when the coin hasn't moved from its bounty phrase so only bounty hunters could trade, buy and sell. So when the price fall, of course, bounty hunters are the only ones need to hold back their greed.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: Pomogator on June 07, 2020, 11:13:00 AM
no one to blame. the purpose of getting tokens is of course to be sold and profit from it. A reduction in the price of the token after disposal is normal.
If there is no one to blame, then the truth will never exist, indeed in economic terms Decline in the price of tokens after being discharged is normal, but this certainly can also be prevented by the team in accordance with their respective abilities, because basically everyone do not want to reduce prices on any tokens.
More than half of the bounty participants join it to quickly earn a small amount of money. Therefore, it's not surprising that they immediately destroy the price of a coin. It's their right, they get their coins and do what they want with them.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: noorman0 on June 07, 2020, 11:49:35 AM
More than half of the bounty participants join it to quickly earn a small amount of money. Therefore, it's not surprising that they immediately destroy the price of a coin. It's their right, they get their coins and do what they want with them.
What can bounty hunters do on prices with only a bounty allocation of 1 to 5% of total sales?

80% of the reasons for the price drop are because the project itself does not have good prospects. Investors have learned a lot about how to choose a viable project, otherwise be prepared to leave even if they get a good exchange.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: Kelvinid on June 07, 2020, 12:19:17 PM
It is really disappointing to see that a certain project had fallen apart and can't even have time to recover. And that was hurt when the team, project developers, and also investors will put blame into hunters which I think they are not the ones who could be pointed out to this case. Hunter has only had a few shares than of investors as we know it and even they sell their shares it won't make a huge impact on the market unless if investors will dump their shares.
If their project has that potentiality and has a working product, and also listed to reputable exchange, it surely never happen to them. But somehow, most projects don't look that way and they let this thing happen.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: killerfrost on June 07, 2020, 12:44:55 PM
More than half of the bounty participants join it to quickly earn a small amount of money. Therefore, it's not surprising that they immediately destroy the price of a coin. It's their right, they get their coins and do what they want with them.
What can bounty hunters do on prices with only a bounty allocation of 1 to 5% of total sales?

80% of the reasons for the price drop are because the project itself does not have good prospects. Investors have learned a lot about how to choose a viable project, otherwise be prepared to leave even if they get a good exchange.
The project collapsed because the market froze and there were not too many people interested in trading. So the altcoin's volume is not too much and if the bounty hunter sells all their tokens, it will cause the price to collapse. And for projects with liquidity, the number of tokens from bounty will not be too important, it will not be able to cause projects to collapse.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: Midy on June 07, 2020, 01:02:33 PM
the cause of dumping by prize hunters is only 3-5% because the allocation given to prize hunters is around 1-5%, so I think it has a big effect on coins when dump, maybe because the bonus is too big given to investors so they sell it when it already exists profit.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on June 07, 2020, 01:37:44 PM
the cause of dumping by prize hunters is only 3-5% because the allocation given to prize hunters is around 1-5%, so I think it has a big effect on coins when dump, maybe because the bonus is too big given to investors so they sell it when it already exists profit.

It is not even 1% to 5%. Only a very few projects allocate 5% for the bounty. In most cases, it is around 0.5% to 1.5%, with the median at 1%. And in almost all the projects, the bounty is transferred to the campaign participants after the tokens are listed in the exchange. So by the time they get the tokens, the price would have already fallen by 80% or 90%.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: Flickkk on June 07, 2020, 02:05:36 PM
The crypto space has experienced so many bullies, and it has been mostly attributed to bounty hunters. Whenever there is a dump; people raise fingers, and attack hunters as the cause of the dumps.

But when you consider most recently hybrix token; the investors got their dividends, and they boldly dumped the token from 3.5$ to 0.5$.
This reinforce claims that no matter how much bounty hunters earn; it is not enough to close down the trade market of crypto coins.
Most of the investors blame the bounty hunter which hold the 10% -20% token allocation
But the main issue or root of the dump are the big holder which he can manipulate the price of coin because he can gather all the starting dump price by the bounty hunter and use them to take a risk in selling them in cheap to which it will make the coin go lower and if lucky the huge holder will slowly rise the price of the coin


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: azmirihaque on June 07, 2020, 02:08:01 PM
Ups and downs are the common scenario for any market. No marker goes in a straight line. There has a maximum and minimum point, between them the market trends fluctuate.  In the open market system, market controls itself. No single buyer and seller can control its trend. So the fluctuation in crypto market is also the result of common market mechanism. But when a lots of bounty hunters enter into the market at a time, it some what affects the market but not the real cause for dump.  


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: Baoanhbmt on June 09, 2020, 03:19:41 AM
indeed the bounty hunter is not a dump! Coins from projects that are not clear will experience dumps that are common. The team should know that bounty hunters will dump their coins for $, they are ready to pay that's why they introduce bounty promotions right ? Then why blaming bounty hunters? It mean the projects are not good enough, look at many projects that paid this year, they still have good value, tokens that bounty hunters sold have no impact on the price. Cartesi  even though tokens are distributed the price of CTSI is still good at binance


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: Gayong88 on June 09, 2020, 04:48:41 AM
The crypto space has experienced so many bullies, and it has been mostly attributed to bounty hunters. Whenever there is a dump; people raise fingers, and attack hunters as the cause of the dumps.

But when you consider most recently hybrix token; the investors got their dividends, and they boldly dumped the token from 3.5$ to 0.5$.
This reinforce claims that no matter how much bounty hunters earn; it is not enough to close down the trade market of crypto coins.

My oponion if that real good project abaout matter components of such things are already in their count without blaming anyone such as the bounthy hunter, example when the price Dump ( in a certain condition)  so that the target achievement of a project is maximal. That meaning that if the project is brought up with a mature concept the results are also maximum.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: harapan on June 09, 2020, 05:20:01 AM
not something new if the bounty hunter is accused of causing dumps in the market, except when there is a dump before the hunter distribution then the hunter will not be blamed. the investor who has full control over the dump is because they sell all the bonuses they get.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: Dr.Osh on June 09, 2020, 06:26:03 AM
the cause of dumping by prize hunters is only 3-5% because the allocation given to prize hunters is around 1-5%, so I think it has a big effect on coins when dump, maybe because the bonus is too big given to investors so they sell it when it already exists profit.
Yeah, but people would rather break the bounty hunter than their own team. however, all of these ideas originated from his team, so they need to do something so the coins don't dump badly. however, we have realized this a long time ago, but because the dump moment always coincides with the distribution of bounties, the bounty hunter is the main actor in the dumping problem.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: Stanlo on June 09, 2020, 06:31:25 AM
Bounty hunters selling off their tokens once trading starts will dump a coin value, there is different between gradual sell off and instant sell off, if the tokens are many it will surely have negative impact on the value but this isn't enough to ruin a project unless the project is already a bad one.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: shaheer001 on June 09, 2020, 06:33:09 AM
You are right The hunters are not the true source of dumbing there are many other factors involved as some whales want to buy the coin at a low price or some time market sudden crash etc.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: Keras kojor on June 09, 2020, 07:55:26 AM
Stop blaming us, we are just bounty hunters. I think the project token will have a good price if the project has big goals or plans and the project team does a great job! It all depends on the ability of the team. Prize hunters just jump around on a project to make a profit. Not those who follow the project like investors or long-term shareholders! Therefore, stop blaming us.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: Xxmodded on June 09, 2020, 08:06:44 AM
Big mistake not from bounty campaign participants but also come from bounty campaign manager, we always trusted with experience bounty campaign manager because they have good ICO coin for promoting but when getting bad ICO I think fault by bounty campaign manager, how ever they give wrong information about some coin project must joining and allow for promoting.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: JahriMeayer on June 09, 2020, 08:17:06 AM
not all mistakes must be pointed out to bounty hunters, when the token/coin starts to be distributed to bounty hunters, investors sometimes panic to sell their tokens for fear of being dumped by bounty hunters, sometimes we don't have to blame one side.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: imstillthebest on June 09, 2020, 08:33:08 AM
not all mistakes must be pointed out to bounty hunters, when the token/coin starts to be distributed to bounty hunters, investors sometimes panic to sell their tokens for fear of being dumped by bounty hunters, sometimes we don't have to blame one side.

but how will the investors know that ? investors normally buy and go .  they will only comeback soon after a long time to see if thier investments have grown or not  . their chose project wont also discussed it to them ( i havent seen one tho )    .  mostly whats written on thier roadmap are the core plans only and not the schedule of the payments or if they will conduct a bounty . if ever im one of the investor , i will not leave my assets and i will infact monitor it and still acess this forum but i won sell my assets just because of bounty hunters because i believe on the assets that im investing with


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: Krabby on June 09, 2020, 08:44:24 AM
The crypto space has experienced so many bullies, and it has been mostly attributed to bounty hunters. Whenever there is a dump; people raise fingers, and attack hunters as the cause of the dumps.

But when you consider most recently hybrix token; the investors got their dividends, and they boldly dumped the token from 3.5$ to 0.5$.
This reinforce claims that no matter how much bounty hunters earn; it is not enough to close down the trade market of crypto coins.
Yes. bounty hunters like us are marginalized. Although it only accounts for 0.5% - 1% of the total supply, people are still cursed for making the price of tokens plummet. Meanwhile, investors accounted for more than 50% of the total token supply and they are the fastest sellers. bounty hunters are sometimes delayed and don't have the opportunity to sell at a high price. I was really angry when I felt like I was being suppressed and I had no voice.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: rajakulam on June 09, 2020, 10:10:09 AM
accused accusing it of being a normal thing, now we are talking about facts on the ground if the allocation given to the prize hunter is around 3% how it can affect the price of coins, the cause of all that is investors who hold large funds.


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: Greatchu on June 09, 2020, 10:16:18 AM
The crypto space has experienced so many bullies, and it has been mostly attributed to bounty hunters. Whenever there is a dump; people raise fingers, and attack hunters as the cause of the dumps.

But when you consider most recently hybrix token; the investors got their dividends, and they boldly dumped the token from 3.5$ to 0.5$.
This reinforce claims that no matter how much bounty hunters earn; it is not enough to close down the trade market of crypto coins.
Project team can avoid this if they want, why give out all tokens in the first place if they know that bounty hunters will dump?? They can do the following
1. Give out limited tokens only, many new projects are giving out 30k to 50k worth of tokens today
2. Send out bounty hunters rewards in batches
3. There is also locks that works for past bounty campaigns


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: TopTort777 on June 09, 2020, 10:27:52 AM
The crypto space has experienced so many bullies, and it has been mostly attributed to bounty hunters. Whenever there is a dump; people raise fingers, and attack hunters as the cause of the dumps.

But when you consider most recently hybrix token; the investors got their dividends, and they boldly dumped the token from 3.5$ to 0.5$.
This reinforce claims that no matter how much bounty hunters earn; it is not enough to close down the trade market of crypto coins.
Project team can avoid this if they want, why give out all tokens in the first place if they know that bounty hunters will dump?? They can do the following
1. Give out limited tokens only, many new projects are giving out 30k to 50k worth of tokens today
2. Send out bounty hunters rewards in batches
3. There is also locks that works for past bounty campaigns

If all 3 steps will be used in bounty campaign, only bots and multyaccounts will join it. Not a single normal bounty hunter wont join a campaign, that has locked altcoins.

What is the purpose of joining, when your earnings are locked? It is like working as a manufacturing, and your salary will only be when the product is sold


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: bluebit25 on June 09, 2020, 11:02:12 AM
accused accusing it of being a normal thing, now we are talking about facts on the ground if the allocation given to the prize hunter is around 3% how it can affect the price of coins, the cause of all that is investors who hold large funds.
3% will really be a lot for the first phase of the project. Usually they will list at small exchanges in the first phase and those exchanges will not have too much liquidity. And if all bounty hunters sell their tokens, it will cause a serious collapse


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: TastyChillySauce00 on June 09, 2020, 11:50:36 AM
accused accusing it of being a normal thing, now we are talking about facts on the ground if the allocation given to the prize hunter is around 3% how it can affect the price of coins, the cause of all that is investors who hold large funds.
3% will really be a lot for the first phase of the project. Usually they will list at small exchanges in the first phase and those exchanges will not have too much liquidity. And if all bounty hunters sell their tokens, it will cause a serious collapse
That depends on the developers whether they wanna try to create an agreement with small or big exchange sites. Have you seen hoo exchange? it's a small exchange site but a new coin that listed there always get a huge liquidity


Title: Re: Stop blaming bounty hunters
Post by: Kaliecious on June 09, 2020, 12:47:05 PM
yes, I agree with you, often the bounty hunter is accused of being a major factor in token dumps but many things can happen. such as investors who throw away their tokens very cheaply or teams that throw them away. but it is always the bounty hunter that is blamed.