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Title: Decade of investment
Post by: Onuohakk on June 17, 2020, 09:44:15 PM
What's your view about the top investment of the last decade done by @CryptoCrunchApp
Bitcoin ---> 62,500%
Ethereum ---> 17,900%
Netflix ---> 4,280%
Amazon ---> 1,250%
Apple ---> 840%
The type of investment you get yourself with, will determine how great your tomorrow will be "YOUR LIFE, YOUR CHOICE


Title: Re: Decade of investment
Post by: jackg on June 18, 2020, 04:13:38 AM
I'm coming across the idea that an investment $<1m if well managed can return up to around 1000% over a decade (kinda a helpful benchmark here imo).

Caution is also necessary with every investment, you can't allot a certain amount of cash on something you don't have faith in and that COULD reach zero unless you can teach yourself to hodl no matter what with some amount that you have at least and are willing to lose for the potential gains. But you can only lose 100% and can gain a lot more tjough... If you cash out when you double or set a stop loss with an amount you can't afford to lose then you might be more comfortable investing.


Title: Re: Decade of investment
Post by: Darker45 on June 18, 2020, 04:28:27 AM
It should always be highlighted that the road to 62,500% ROI is not easy. It is not for everyone.

A lot have given up along the way. A lot have lost patience, got weaker hands in the process, got too excited with a smaller profit, succumbed to FUD, ended up panic selling with a huge loss, jumped into repurchase merely due to FOMO, and so on and so forth.

So for everyone looking only at the juicy side, please think twice. Take a step closer and zoom in the charts and realize that the smaller picture provides a harrowing experience, details that you are going to go through day by day.

So the first thing to do really is to familiarize yourself with that which you are investing and be convinced with it. Otherwise, the bumpy ride will neither be fun nor profitable.

 


Title: Re: Decade of investment
Post by: actmyname on June 18, 2020, 04:57:00 AM
Kind of unfair to scale the ROI like that when you're only sampling from the winner's circle. Think survivor bias: you seldom hear of adventurer's tales that end in death.
It's silly to look at investing with hindsight since there will always be some "most profitable option" but at the time, the right choice is not the best choice. I'm not banking on my 7-2 hand to get a full house against pocket aces every time, nor am I expecting an altcoin to skyrocket. The possibility is there but if you're making decisions in the present, I can say that you would rather bank on the 80% chance to make 2x than the 0.001% chance to make 1000x.

If I approach every poker hand or shitty penny stock or altcoin with the thought "this might 1000x" then I would be out of money.


Title: Re: Decade of investment
Post by: StonerStanley on June 18, 2020, 05:02:58 AM
NVIDIA and AMD has gained more than 1500% each, more than Apple.


Title: Re: Decade of investment
Post by: stompix on June 18, 2020, 07:29:19 AM
Bitcoiners have this fixation, look how great it would have been to buy Bitcoins in 2009, far better than amazon or apple.
But they always forget one thing, that if a million people would have bought at that time in a matter of days the price would have already reached over 100 if not 1000, so there was a limit with how many could have really bought at those small prices, just like with shares.

Besides, if we cut the first years when nobody really knew about BTC that percentage drops like a stone, for 5 years it drops to 4000% and for 3 to 300%.
Let's see the next decade what happens, I'll be more than happy to experience at least Amazon's growth.





Title: Re: Decade of investment
Post by: mk4 on June 18, 2020, 07:49:10 AM
If I approach every poker hand or shitty penny stock or altcoin with the thought "this might 1000x" then I would be out of money.

Pretty much. It's so easy to say how obviously good these investments are, after they've already skyrocketed in price. But in reality, when these assets were still in their infancy, it may not have been that obvious. Also taking note that for every successful business(concerning stocks), there are A LOT that fail and don't get any traction.


Title: Re: Decade of investment
Post by: Winscosinally on June 18, 2020, 11:36:23 AM
After achieving such great gains it's easy to show them off, let's be honest, this isn't easy, to leave your money in something that might probably fail at any time for years isn't an easy calling, it's why I don't blame myself for buying it bagging Bitcoin in 2011, 10 years investment isn't a joke


Title: Re: Decade of investment
Post by: Upgate on June 18, 2020, 01:51:38 PM
I pity those that still don't believe on bitcoin uptil now. The world economy is changing hands to crypto. Those that adopted bitcoin earlier are the ones that has benefited from it financially. Bitcoin investment is the sure way of financial breakthrough, if you apply patience in it


Title: Re: Decade of investment
Post by: Lucius on June 18, 2020, 01:56:39 PM
Let's see the next decade what happens, I'll be more than happy to experience at least Amazon's growth.

Well I personally wouldn’t mind, because if I’m not mistaken Apple is currently worth about $1.5 trillion, which would mean that with such an MC the value of 1 BTC would be around $75,000? Maybe some would disagree, especially those who dream of becoming millionaires in $ and have less than 10 BTC 8)

Joking aside, I know that many expect more, but I would be more than satisfied with the above - although I am fully prepared for the possibility that Bitcoin is worth much less in 10 years than it is today. "He who dares, wins!" Del Boy Trotter ;)


Title: Re: Decade of investment
Post by: pooya87 on June 18, 2020, 02:01:16 PM
Ethereum ---> 17,900%
a decade (10 years) ago Ethereum didn't even exist. and not to mention that it started with the value equal to 0.0125BTC and it is currently worth 0.024BTC so its rise is only about 92% which is a lot smaller than majority of altcoins.

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Netflix ---> 4,280%
Amazon ---> 1,250%
Apple ---> 840%
in my opinion it is wrong to compare bitcoin with a company's share in stock market. there is just no common ground to compare the two. bitcoin is riskier but is a lot more rewarding due to its innovative and new nature while these stocks are less risky and have good returns because the companies behind them are very successful in the world.


Title: Re: Decade of investment
Post by: asianguy845 on June 18, 2020, 08:04:35 PM
It completely makes sense BTC went up. However, I didn't do the calculations and had no idea it went up THAT much.
Everyone knows bitcoin/cryptocurrency is the future, and so people would invest in it, making the value go up.


Title: Re: Decade of investment
Post by: Krislaw on June 18, 2020, 09:05:36 PM
Comparing a stock investment to crypto looks somehow wrong. Apple, Netflix and Amazon are big companies and they have more user/fan base. Example is Apple which also have a cap of over a trillion.
Cryptocurrency on the other side is still not accepted across the globe because it can't be regulated like the company's above but they still made it to the top list( let me say unofficial) of best investment.


Title: Re: Decade of investment
Post by: mk4 on June 19, 2020, 07:54:53 AM
It completely makes sense BTC went up. However, I didn't do the calculations and had no idea it went up THAT much.

Well, it's quite expected as it's something that literally started at having a price of zero to a few cents. As for these stocks that are mentioned(and most stocks), they have their IPO price, so their market prices mostly starts already at an upwards of a dollar. Hence why these stocks have lower price increase percentages.

Netflix: $15.00 IPO price
Amazon: $18 IPO price
Apple: $22 IPO price


Title: Re: Decade of investment
Post by: actmyname on June 20, 2020, 12:23:41 PM
Everyone knows bitcoin/cryptocurrency is the future, and so people would invest in it, making the value go up.
Certainly not everyone if you want to consider the fact that for there to be an exchange, on the other end you have a seller. ;)
Comparing a stock investment to crypto looks somehow wrong. Apple, Netflix and Amazon are big companies and they have more user/fan base.
How about the fact that the decade encompasses nearly the entire lifetime of Bitcoin, meaning any ROI is from inception?

Shit, if I could start at a number close to zero then the ROI from that growth would be off the walls too.


Title: Re: Decade of investment
Post by: joniboini on June 20, 2020, 01:33:33 PM
Maybe they should push the lesson to 'diversify your portfolio' instead of saying 'just invest in crypto'. The risk and reward is definitely higher, and that could rekt you if you don't properly manage your funds.

I pity those that still don't believe on bitcoin uptil now. The world economy is changing hands to crypto. Those that adopted bitcoin earlier are the ones that has benefited from it financially. Bitcoin investment is the sure way of financial breakthrough, if you apply patience in it

Can you say the same thing if you bought at the top? With nearly all of your funds?


Title: Re: Decade of investment
Post by: boissonnea on June 20, 2020, 02:45:36 PM
The statistics do not always seem right, as these companies are growing well in the future. For example, the Amazon share has started to achieve returns soon and may rise better in the future.
If we measure the Amazon index 10 years ago, we will find that they are making losses.
Bitcoin in a modern market and we may reach stability in the next decade so it is wrong to judge it during the first 10 years.
All alternative currencies have not existed over the past decade so we cannot compare.


Title: Re: Decade of investment
Post by: Febo on June 20, 2020, 08:32:17 PM
What's your view about the top investment of the last decade done by @CryptoCrunchApp
Bitcoin ---> 62,500%
Ethereum ---> 17,900%
Netflix ---> 4,280%
Amazon ---> 1,250%
Apple ---> 840%
The type of investment you get yourself with, will determine how great your tomorrow will be "YOUR LIFE, YOUR CHOICE

Where is Tesla and why is this post in Bitcoin Forum > Other > Beginners & Help part of forum and not in some economic part of forum?


Title: Re: Decade of investment
Post by: planteria on June 20, 2020, 09:00:13 PM
fwiw i have Bitcoin alongside Amazon, Alphabet, Physical Gold, Newmont and a very conservatively run mutual Equities/Bonds/Property fund which i am involved with.


Title: Re: Decade of investment
Post by: pixie85 on June 20, 2020, 10:29:40 PM
Kind of unfair to scale the ROI like that when you're only sampling from the winner's circle. Think survivor bias: you seldom hear of adventurer's tales that end in death.

I know a different but similar one:
Success has a lot of fathers but failure is an orphan.

There's a similar or even higher number of people who lost money investing in Bitcoin but most of them will not come here to tell us their stories out of fear of being treated like idiots and losers but all those teenage bitcoin millionaires run from one news site to the other sharing their life stories.

If we only knew what investmenst were profitable we would all have longed google, tesla, facebook and shorted lehman brothers.


Title: Re: Decade of investment
Post by: smyslov on June 22, 2020, 06:53:43 PM
It should always be highlighted that the road to 62,500% ROI is not easy. It is not for everyone.



So the first thing to do really is to familiarize yourself with that which you are investing and be convinced with it. Otherwise, the bumpy ride will neither be fun nor profitable.

 

Maybe they are in the right time coming in the market and going out as well, 62,500% ROI is crazy, are they the only who have done that or other company are also have that kind of figure, remember every company or investment institutions have their own investment strategist and consultants.


Title: Re: Decade of investment
Post by: Onuohakk on July 14, 2020, 01:24:09 PM
After achieving such great gains it's easy to show them off, let's be honest, this isn't easy, to leave your money in something that might probably fail at any time for years isn't an easy calling, it's why I don't blame myself for buying it bagging Bitcoin in 2011, 10 years investment isn't a joke
How I wish I know about bitcoin way back then, I would have invested also. This decade result shows that bitcoin is waxing strong, people are still believing in it in spite of the fud news spreading around from the press.
To make it in life, you gat to take risk. Information is the key, get informed and take a step. It's better to try and fail than not trying at all


Title: Re: Decade of investment
Post by: wxa7115 on July 14, 2020, 05:13:19 PM
How I wish I know about bitcoin way back then, I would have invested also. This decade result shows that bitcoin is waxing strong, people are still believing in it in spite of the fud news spreading around from the press.
To make it in life, you gat to take risk. Information is the key, get informed and take a step. It's better to try and fail than not trying at all
This is very easy to say in hindsight but very difficult to actually do, after a decade bitcoin seems like it is unstoppable but at the beginning when only a few enthusiasts were using it I'm pretty sure that things were not so clear, also you are making the assumption that you could have held your coins for long enough in order to see those huge profits, however a decade is a very long time and you could have lost your coins in many ways.

You could have sold your coins as soon as they gave you a small profit, your hard drive could have crashed, you could have invested in an altcoin that failed, maybe you could have lost your coins in a casino or you could have got a hacked. I could go on but I suppose you get the idea the important thing now is that you are here you are aware of the potential of bitcoin and you still have a chance to make a lot of money if you take advantage of the opportunities that present themselves.


Title: Re: Decade of investment
Post by: Asuspawer09 on July 14, 2020, 05:30:18 PM
What's your view about the top investment of the last decade done by @CryptoCrunchApp
Bitcoin ---> 62,500%
Ethereum ---> 17,900%
Netflix ---> 4,280%
Amazon ---> 1,250%
Apple ---> 840%
The type of investment you get yourself with, will determine how great your tomorrow will be "YOUR LIFE, YOUR CHOICE

Probably for sure cryptocurrency was really a big profit when it comes to investment even compared to some companies.

And we also know the risk of investing in this bitcoin and even ethereum that probably or the most profitable in the past year, investing in bitcoin was really tough it just a matter of maybe luck when you made the right decision I probably lost hundreds of dollars selling my bitcoin at the wrong moment.

But I think you could make more profit doing a short term buying and investing in bitcoin at the right time, probably investing always when the market is dump.


Title: Re: Decade of investment
Post by: Salauddin1994 on July 15, 2020, 03:03:14 AM
Bitcoin was a very profitable currency in the decade of investment but gradually everything started to decline. That's why we can't lose patience. Failure must be accepted. Those who fail to achieve success in life. When it comes to investing, we have to wait a little longer. In the days ahead, political stability and visible improvement in good economic governance are needed to make the wheel of economic growth more dynamic and to distribute the benefits of growth among all. Necessary reforms in the banking sector, stock market, tax infrastructure and other government institutions are now a matter of time.