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Title: Russia! Do not nuke us!
Post by: Hannu on June 18, 2020, 01:45:40 AM
Hey, I have peacefully plea for the international community! Do not nuke Finland!


Title: Re: Russia! Do not nuke us!
Post by: KingScorpio on June 18, 2020, 03:54:04 AM
Hey, I have peacefully plea for the international community! Do not nuke Finland!

Why finnland sucks and no one is sure it exists, there are rumers there is a sea there.


Title: Re: Russia! Do not nuke us!
Post by: Juggy777 on June 18, 2020, 09:51:16 AM
Hey, I have peacefully plea for the international community! Do not nuke Finland!

Why finnland sucks and no one is sure it exists, there are rumers there is a sea there.

@Hannu why have you written one line only?, and why would Russia or any other country nuke Finland, when everyone knows that’s Finland is a peaceful country?. Furthermore is this thread in response to Trump’s statement where he had had inquired was Finland part of Russia?, if yes then please be more specific so all can give their opinions below.

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The country has also been previously ranked among the countries with the highest quality of life by the Legatum Institute's Prosperity Index and among the most peaceful countries in the world by the Global Peace Index.


Sources:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/destinations/europe/finland/articles/reasons-to-visit-finland/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/rachelsandler/2020/06/17/trump-once-asked-if-finland-was-part-of-russia-bolton-book-says/#42254e81734c


Title: Re: Russia! Do not nuke us!
Post by: Cnut237 on June 18, 2020, 09:55:24 AM
I'm not Finnish or Russian, but Muistatko Monrepos'n (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE95M6D7MNA) is a great song of loss, very evocative.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/ff/Monrepos_park.jpg/400px-Monrepos_park.jpg


Title: Re: Russia! Do not nuke us!
Post by: Mauser on June 18, 2020, 10:32:37 AM
Why woul Russia nuke Finnland? I don't think either one of you two is interested in a new winter war. Or am I missing something?

It's been a while since I was in Helsinki, but a lot of things I saw where actually from Russia. Pretty sure you are a decent trading partner for Russia with a healthy tourism industry, why bother changing that?


Title: Re: Russia! Do not nuke us!
Post by: Hannu on June 18, 2020, 11:28:48 AM
Why woul Russia nuke Finnland? I don't think either one of you two is interested in a new winter war. Or am I missing something?

It's been a while since I was in Helsinki, but a lot of things I saw where actually from Russia. Pretty sure you are a decent trading partner for Russia with a healthy tourism industry, why bother changing that?

Yeah but just came up my mind. Tsar Bomba middle of Helsinki area or atmosphere, we will all dead


Title: Re: Russia! Do not nuke us!
Post by: KingScorpio on June 18, 2020, 12:07:04 PM
Why woul Russia nuke Finnland? I don't think either one of you two is interested in a new winter war. Or am I missing something?

It's been a while since I was in Helsinki, but a lot of things I saw where actually from Russia. Pretty sure you are a decent trading partner for Russia with a healthy tourism industry, why bother changing that?

Yeah but just came up my mind. Tsar Bomba middle of Helsinki area or atmosphere, we will all dead

well russia hats nazis, and finnland acts like a nazi in EU parliament


Title: Re: Russia! Do not nuke us!
Post by: cryptoperkele on June 18, 2020, 01:36:26 PM
Why woul Russia nuke Finnland? I don't think either one of you two is interested in a new winter war. Or am I missing something?

It's been a while since I was in Helsinki, but a lot of things I saw where actually from Russia. Pretty sure you are a decent trading partner for Russia with a healthy tourism industry, why bother changing that?

Maybe he is joking. No one here in Finland actually thinks that they would bomb us. I mean why would they? They probably want to try invade us at some point after they make up some reason, but not bombing wouldn't just make any sense, russians are buying cabins from here and like to shop in here.


Title: Re: Russia! Do not nuke us!
Post by: squatz1 on June 18, 2020, 01:54:42 PM
Not sure on exactly why OP wrote this, going to assume it has something to do with Trump allegedly asking his aides if Finland was apart of Russia -- this has led to people mocking him for doing so. All of these allegations / claims are from John Boltons newest book, which is set to be released soon (pending Justice Department trying to stop it)

But if that's not what you're talking about --> No one is going to nuke anyone. All that would cause is nuclear warfare to end this whole nice world thing we have going on.


Title: Re: Russia! Do not nuke us!
Post by: madnessteat on June 18, 2020, 03:02:41 PM
Hey, I have peacefully plea for the international community! Do not nuke Finland!

In my opinion, Russia has never had any disagreements or claims against Finland. I live in Russia and I am sure that your fear is based on delusions. The Russians are good guys and they never attacked anyone first, but only defended themselves. It's not in our interest.


Title: Re: Russia! Do not nuke us!
Post by: squatz1 on June 18, 2020, 03:13:27 PM
Hey, I have peacefully plea for the international community! Do not nuke Finland!

In my opinion, Russia has never had any disagreements or claims against Finland. I live in Russia and I am sure that your fear is based on delusions. The Russians are good guys and they never attacked anyone first, but only defended themselves. It's not in our interest.

Heh, wouldn't go that far in regards to Russia and Finland never having any issues. They share a border so there's going to be some international tensions that showcases itself as some point.

Most recent cause of tension was allegations of Russia spying on Finland, see below Wiki article:

China and Russia are suspected of large-scale spying of the IT networks at the Ministry for Foreign Affairs (Finland). The spying focused on data traffic between Finland and the European Union, and is believed to have continued for four years. The spying was uncovered in spring 2013, and as of October 2013 the Finnish Security Intelligence Service (Supo) was investigating the breach.[5]

Source wikipedia uses: https://yle.fi/uutiset/osasto/news/mtv3_large-scale_network_spying_uncovered_at_mfa/6911394


Title: Re: Russia! Do not nuke us!
Post by: madnessteat on June 18, 2020, 03:23:50 PM
~snip~

Aren't you not funny yourself? As always, there is no evidence of Russian or Chinese espionage. Anyone can write an article on Wikipedia. Such articles are written to intimidate citizens and under this pretext to get funds for the state defense of the country (in fact, for officials to live better than anyone else). To be able to control people, they must have fear of the enemy from the outside.


Title: Re: Russia! Do not nuke us!
Post by: cryptoperkele on June 18, 2020, 03:24:58 PM
Hey, I have peacefully plea for the international community! Do not nuke Finland!
The Russians are good guys and they never attacked anyone first, but only defended themselves. It's not in our interest.

Right, good guys... I am not sure what they teach you in there, but Russia (Or Soviet Union back then) literally started the winter war with Finland.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shelling_of_Mainila

And everyone of your neighbourgs are scared of your country.


Title: Re: Russia! Do not nuke us!
Post by: squatz1 on June 18, 2020, 03:52:00 PM
~snip~

Aren't you not funny yourself? As always, there is no evidence of Russian or Chinese espionage. Anyone can write an article on Wikipedia. Such articles are written to intimidate citizens and under this pretext to get funds for the state defense of the country (in fact, for officials to live better than anyone else). To be able to control people, they must have fear of the enemy from the outside.

Not sure why there is some anger in this. I literally put the Wikipedia source there as the quote and then put the original article below it. I ALSO said that all of this was allegedly, as there is no way to know if this is true without an outside source confirming it. Here is more articles referencing this alleged situation:

https://www.abc.net.au/7.30/finland-facing-the-threat-of-russian-hackers/11874880
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/finland-cyber-warfare-russia-online-internet-attack-a8563761.html
https://cdn.defenseone.com/b/defenseone/interstitial.html?v=9.21.3&rf=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.defenseone.com%2Ftechnology%2F2018%2F07%2Fchinese-hackers-targeted-internet-things-during-trump-putin-summit%2F149873%2F
https://us.boell.org/en/2019/07/02/how-europes-smallest-nations-are-battling-russias-cyberattacks

and so on and so forth.

I understanding the questioning here, but I did provide information.


Title: Re: Russia! Do not nuke us!
Post by: Artemis3 on June 18, 2020, 08:15:42 PM
Clearly they want their saunas. Never underestimate the saunas! They get cold in Moscow and its too expensive to keep traveling to Finland all the time...

Besides, that country gave us the world's most used kernel of an operating system, and Nokia among other things.

The world wouldn't be the same without Finland, and they have one of the best education systems in the world, puts in shame most other countries.


Title: Re: Russia! Do not nuke us!
Post by: KingScorpio on June 18, 2020, 09:00:56 PM
Hey, I have peacefully plea for the international community! Do not nuke Finland!
The Russians are good guys and they never attacked anyone first, but only defended themselves. It's not in our interest.

Right, good guys... I am not sure what they teach you in there, but Russia (Or Soviet Union back then) literally started the winter war with Finland.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shelling_of_Mainila

And everyone of your neighbourgs are scared of your country.


in order to free the working class from the financial corrupt burgoise


Title: Re: Russia! Do not nuke us!
Post by: suchmoon on June 19, 2020, 12:22:50 AM
I think the US might nuke Finland just so there is no ambiguity...

https://yle.fi/uutiset/osasto/news/trump_asked_if_finland_was_part_of_russia_new_book_claims/11408013

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US President Donald Trump once asked his chief of staff whether Finland was a part of Russia, according to an upcoming book by former National Security Adviser John Bolton, the New York Times reported.


Title: Re: Russia! Do not nuke us!
Post by: cryptoperkele on June 19, 2020, 10:53:31 AM
I think the US might nuke Finland just so there is no ambiguity...

https://yle.fi/uutiset/osasto/news/trump_asked_if_finland_was_part_of_russia_new_book_claims/11408013

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US President Donald Trump once asked his chief of staff whether Finland was a part of Russia, according to an upcoming book by former National Security Adviser John Bolton, the New York Times reported.


To be completely honest, the amount of Russian trolls (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_web_brigades) on our our Finnish comment sections is so huge that it is starting to be confusing to us too. /s


Title: Re: Russia! Do not nuke us!
Post by: madnessteat on June 19, 2020, 12:48:30 PM
~snip~

I'm sorry, but I don't feel any aggression towards you. I was just expressing my opinion. Living in Russia, I understand that citizens of many countries see Russia as an aggressor, but it is not so.

Russians are actually quite friendly people.


Title: Re: Russia! Do not nuke us!
Post by: KonstantinosM on June 19, 2020, 03:52:20 PM
Hey, I have peacefully plea for the international community! Do not nuke Finland!

Finland must be getting ready to Nuke everyone else, why else would they ask not to be nuked, but to be the last one standing? I say we nuke them first. Mutually Assured Destruction is a good doctrine.



Title: Re: Russia! Do not nuke us!
Post by: igor171717 on June 25, 2020, 08:02:55 AM
Russia does this because other countries allow it