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Bitcoin => Legal => Topic started by: Darksorrow on June 25, 2020, 07:33:00 AM



Title: Legality of Bitcoin cross border trading in US
Post by: Darksorrow on June 25, 2020, 07:33:00 AM
At this moment it is just a concept. Looking for some advice before digging deeper. Here is what trading operation would involve:

1. Receive Bitcoin or altcoin from abroad
2. Sell bitcoin or altcoin for USD
3. Send USD via Legal banking method to abroad

Have a buy/sell crypto method in mind. And will do if it is 100% legal in US.  If opportunity presents itself then could involve 6 figures of USD transferred to abroad monthly from the activities mentioned above.

If it is possible then please point me to the right direction of what I need to do?
Like:
- Looking for a lawyer
- Do it as a business
- Is coinbase an option or expensive?
- Bitcoin to USD exchange places with low fees etc.

Thanks in advance.


Title: Re: Legality of Bitcoin cross border trading in US
Post by: jackg on June 26, 2020, 11:10:39 PM
I think you'd be paying a lot in fees for the whole thing. Unless you're going to set up a base in North America, Europe and potentially Asia (you just need one person for this) then otherwise currency conversion might be expensive.

I also can't work out what exactly you'd be trying to use this for, why would I come to you instead of just going straight to coinbase? You'd have to kyc on amounts over $1000/€1000/£1000 too afaik (at minimum but it could be 5000 of each of those units).

I don't know if cryptocurrency lawyers easy to find or not, stuff probably depends on the state you're in, I'd imagine new York has quite a few but you can just search for your state I imagine...


Title: Re: Legality of Bitcoin cross border trading in US
Post by: Darksorrow on July 07, 2020, 07:58:23 AM
After so many tries, finally was able to bypass the recaptcha.

Hello jackg,

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I think you'd be paying a lot in fees for the whole thing.

That's one of the concerns but it's not a priority atm. Legality is.

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Unless you're going to set up a base in North America, Europe and potentially Asia (you just need one person for this) then otherwise currency conversion might be expensive.

Just need one person.

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why would I come to you instead of just going straight to coinbase?

I am not going to trade with you. I have a trusted person for this.

I could use some suggestions.


Title: Re: Legality of Bitcoin cross border trading in US
Post by: Lorence.xD on July 08, 2020, 04:43:05 AM
In my opinion that is a very good way to launder money, the way the process involves a constant change in currency is something that a money launderer would do to create a perfect monetary getaway, if you are not living in America then that will trigger some suspicion but in my opinion this is pretty sketchy. Regarding legal grounds, I do not know much but in my opinion, doing this might get you in trouble.


Title: Re: Legality of Bitcoin cross border trading in US
Post by: Darksorrow on July 13, 2020, 07:23:02 AM
In my opinion that is a very good way to launder money, the way the process involves a constant change in currency is something that a money launderer would do to create a perfect monetary getaway, if you are not living in America then that will trigger some suspicion but in my opinion this is pretty sketchy. Regarding legal grounds, I do not know much but in my opinion, doing this might get you in trouble.

I would not be looking for legal counsel if I was looking for laundering money. Just looking for a way to make constant profit if possible.

Still haven't gotten any solution.


Title: Re: Legality of Bitcoin cross border trading in US
Post by: Harlot on July 13, 2020, 10:46:38 PM
I'm not sure how far can you define yourself as only a P2P trader of cryptocurrencies but with those amounts involve which you have said reaching up to 6 figures that might require you to have some kind of license as we are already talking about similarly to a small crypto exchange. Other than that there are also concerns about you receiving cryptocurrencies from abroad. Although it might not be classified as a goods or service this might also be under some kind of tax which I have seen before. The receiving of crypto as well will also be under capital gains at the moment you receive it and it appreciates in value. There is a lot of moving parts in the business you are looking for and I think it would be best if you consult to a lawyer about this one.


Title: Re: Legality of Bitcoin cross border trading in US
Post by: hugeblack on July 15, 2020, 01:05:42 PM
Will you have a way to prove the source of the money? Say, for example, that your net profit for which you pay taxes is $ 50,000 per year. IRS will notice that you have received large sums without having proof of the source of that money, or why do you receive that money?
The matter is like a normal person whose earnings per month were about $ 70,000 and suddenly he made transfers with amounts in excess of $ 100,000 a year.
The lawyer will not help you if you want to do it in a personal way, but you need a smart accountant and initiate transfers for long periods.


So the solution is a commercial activity, but you need to study the feasibility in more detail.