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Title: Legitimate Gold-backed tokens?
Post by: Abiky on June 26, 2020, 11:31:09 PM
Besides Digix Gold tokens on the ETH blockchain, what other gold-backed tokens are legitimate on the crypto/Blockchain space? I've stumbled across many in the past, only to be a complete scam. Regulation is necessary here in order to provide investors with legitimate tokens that are backed by Gold powered by Blockchain technology. If renowned companies start offering Gold services on the Blockchain, it would've been truly revolutionary.
I'd like to know of other options to invest in Gold without actually owning it. Redeeming virtual Gold tokens to cash or physical bullion all using Blockchain tech, could prove to be extremely convenient for long term investors. Imagine being able to sell your Gold-backed token to physical Gold right from the Blockchain without middleman. It'll truly revolutionize the Gold industry. The middleman will only be responsible for shipping out the physical bullion, but transactions will be settled on-chain.

If you happen to know of any other gold-backed tokens besides Digix that are legitimate, please feel free to share it with me here. Any help, suggestions, or recommendations will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. :)


Title: Re: Legitimate Gold-backed tokens?
Post by: blockman on June 27, 2020, 06:59:21 AM
How about the gold project that we have in the forum? It's a stable coin which said backed up by gold. I haven't gone through the whole thing but they are one of the most active gold-backed project.
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5161544.0)


Title: Re: Legitimate Gold-backed tokens?
Post by: nigelk on June 27, 2020, 07:03:18 AM
There are tether gold, maybe it could be legitimate. Anyway, im not sure that we could fully trust in any gold backed project. So hard to proof it


Title: Re: Legitimate Gold-backed tokens?
Post by: bgaf on June 27, 2020, 07:16:53 AM
How about the gold project that we have in the forum? It's a stable coin which said backed up by gold. I haven't gone through the whole thing but they are one of the most active gold-backed project.
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5161544.0)
Ive seen this project for a long time and running for more than a year already and their token is listed on cmc. I think it is legit, when I visited the site, there are conversion of gold grams to digital gold happening but Im not sure if they can really get the physical grams of gold if they avail or the stock keeping some where under the hood of gold location or storage.


Title: Re: Legitimate Gold-backed tokens?
Post by: masterrex on June 27, 2020, 07:36:26 AM
Aside from DIGIX, there is another platform that showing great potential, and it was the GOLD TOKEN issued and operated by DIGITAL GOLD LTD. a company incorporated in St. Vincent and Grenadines. each token that was minted is certified backed with 1 gram of pure Physical Gold 99.99 purity. and It was also audited by ChainSecurity one of the world's best in blockchain security. The GOLD TOKEN is also promoting transparency thats why anyone can access the real-time Gold deposit data at BulleonStar Vault base in Singapore. for more information just visit https://gold.storage/en/audits  anyone can confirm the Physical Gold Deposit including its serial numbers of each PAMP Gold Cast Bars. GOLD TOKEN is an Ethereum ERC20 standard token and It's currently traded in the following exchanges:

https://gold.storage/en/market


https://cryptex.net
 

https://livecoin.net


https://www.bitforex.com


https://catex.io


https://coinsbit.io


https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/digital-gold/


Title: Re: Legitimate Gold-backed tokens?
Post by: blockman on June 27, 2020, 08:46:27 AM
How about the gold project that we have in the forum? It's a stable coin which said backed up by gold. I haven't gone through the whole thing but they are one of the most active gold-backed project.
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5161544.0)
Ive seen this project for a long time and running for more than a year already and their token is listed on cmc. I think it is legit, when I visited the site, there are conversion of gold grams to digital gold happening but Im not sure if they can really get the physical grams of gold if they avail or the stock keeping some where under the hood of gold location or storage.
Yes, they are the 'digital gold'. Low in rankings but they have a higher volume than those altcoins that are in a higher rank.
(https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/digital-gold/)


Title: Re: Legitimate Gold-backed tokens?
Post by: FLHippy on June 27, 2020, 10:07:19 AM
There were many attempts to create gold backed tokens, but as you know the biggest problem is to bring trust into this industry. Only company that achieved this goal is Paxos and its token Pax gold.


Title: Re: Legitimate Gold-backed tokens?
Post by: Yaunfitda on June 27, 2020, 11:44:42 AM
So far this is the only project that I have seen in this community that somewhat legit as far as being a gold backup coin or token. And as far as I know, it's already been tradeable on exchanges and those signature campaigns have been running for a year or more than. But I haven't follow the price though, if it has been pump or not. But definitely, this project should be on anyone's radar.
How about the gold project that we have in the forum? It's a stable coin which said backed up by gold. I haven't gone through the whole thing but they are one of the most active gold-backed project.
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5161544.0)


Title: Re: Legitimate Gold-backed tokens?
Post by: blue Snow on June 27, 2020, 12:12:32 PM
There were many attempts to create gold backed tokens, but as you know the biggest problem is to bring trust into this industry. Only company that achieved this goal is Paxos and its token Pax gold.
you can check and audit online https://www.bullionstar.com/myaccount/audit with vault account number 17081 this is certificate https://gold.storage/vault.pdf.

1 Digital Gold (GOLD) = 1 Gram,

Different with Paxos, 1 PAXG = 1 troy ounce ((31,1035 gram) and PAXG was audit from certik https://certik.io/blog/clients-&-partners/paxos-paxg-formally-verified-by-certik


Title: Re: Legitimate Gold-backed tokens?
Post by: mindrust on June 27, 2020, 12:20:05 PM
The only gold-backed tokens I trust, is the physical gold coins I keep at my home.

The rest are either full or semi scams.

These so called "gold-backed" shit are no different. Probably even worse than what your bank offers.


Title: Re: Legitimate Gold-backed tokens?
Post by: Gorosden on June 27, 2020, 12:30:14 PM
This topic have been discussed many times before, there are no real tokens that are backed by real gold, it's all about faking a useless tokens use case, beware were you put your money, all those gold backed tokens can't even provide proof


Title: Re: Legitimate Gold-backed tokens?
Post by: bigcash2011 on June 27, 2020, 03:07:04 PM
Besides Digix Gold tokens on the ETH blockchain, what other gold-backed tokens are legitimate on the crypto/Blockchain space? I've stumbled across many in the past, only to be a complete scam. Regulation is necessary here in order to provide investors with legitimate tokens that are backed by Gold powered by Blockchain technology. If renowned companies start offering Gold services on the Blockchain, it would've been truly revolutionary.
I'd like to know of other options to invest in Gold without actually owning it. Redeeming virtual Gold tokens to cash or physical bullion all using Blockchain tech, could prove to be extremely convenient for long term investors. Imagine being able to sell your Gold-backed token to physical Gold right from the Blockchain without middleman. It'll truly revolutionize the Gold industry. The middleman will only be responsible for shipping out the physical bullion, but transactions will be settled on-chain.

If you happen to know of any other gold-backed tokens besides Digix that are legitimate, please feel free to share it with me here. Any help, suggestions, or recommendations will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. :)
There was a project called pgpay or puregoldpay on this forum that claimed to be in this business since 2014 and they even have physical atms in Singapore, they sold their tokens for 45 cents during IEO but now the price is very low which is strange for a gold backed project. They blame lockdowns and closure of businesses for no or slow revenue, lets see if they come out legit or not.


Title: Re: Legitimate Gold-backed tokens?
Post by: Pffrt on June 27, 2020, 03:12:29 PM
This topic have been discussed many times before, there are no real tokens that are backed by real gold, it's all about faking a useless tokens use case, beware were you put your money, all those gold backed tokens can't even provide proof
You might be partially true. There were raid in such a project and found they hold no gold at all while they used to say token is backed by gold. However, I think GOLD stablecoin is a good one although I don't have any proof at all. The project seems to be good and serious with their business.


Title: Re: Legitimate Gold-backed tokens?
Post by: Febo on June 27, 2020, 03:36:42 PM
Legitimate Gold-backed tokens?

https://www.xaurum.org/en/home  Xaurum was one of first. I have no ideas how good they are. But they exist for 4 years or more.


Title: Re: Legitimate Gold-backed tokens?
Post by: tycsols on June 27, 2020, 05:34:02 PM
Besides Digix Gold tokens on the ETH blockchain, what other gold-backed tokens are legitimate on the crypto/Blockchain space? I've stumbled across many in the past, only to be a complete scam. Regulation is necessary here in order to provide investors with legitimate tokens that are backed by Gold powered by Blockchain technology. If renowned companies start offering Gold services on the Blockchain, it would've been truly revolutionary.
I'd like to know of other options to invest in Gold without actually owning it. Redeeming virtual Gold tokens to cash or physical bullion all using Blockchain tech, could prove to be extremely convenient for long term investors. Imagine being able to sell your Gold-backed token to physical Gold right from the Blockchain without middleman. It'll truly revolutionize the Gold industry. The middleman will only be responsible for shipping out the physical bullion, but transactions will be settled on-chain.

If you happen to know of any other gold-backed tokens besides Digix that are legitimate, please feel free to share it with me here. Any help, suggestions, or recommendations will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. :)
I know of pax gold with symbol of paxg, I am very confident about this because this group also has a stable coin backed by fiat called pax plus other products and they are listed and offered at big and reputed crypto platforms so I have no doubt about their legitimacy.


Title: Re: Legitimate Gold-backed tokens?
Post by: hatshepsut93 on June 27, 2020, 11:05:40 PM
Besides Digix Gold tokens on the ETH blockchain, what other gold-backed tokens are legitimate on the crypto/Blockchain space? I've stumbled across many in the past, only to be a complete scam. Regulation is necessary here in order to provide investors with legitimate tokens that are backed by Gold powered by Blockchain technology. If renowned companies start offering Gold services on the Blockchain, it would've been truly revolutionary.

I don't see anything revolutionary about it, it's just a custodian that holds your gold, and crypto exists to remove the middleman, so bringing them back just defeats the purpose of crypto. We already see how companies that manage stablecoins demand KYC from certain users and block accounts, if a big company was managing gold-backed tokens, they would be doing exactly the same. You are saying that regulation is necessary, but regulation would make this gold-backed token no different from traditional ownership of gold. Blockchain doesn't magically make everything decentralized or secure, every other aspect of the system must be decentralized too.


Title: Re: Legitimate Gold-backed tokens?
Post by: AmoreJaz on June 27, 2020, 11:13:07 PM
The only gold-backed tokens I trust, is the physical gold coins I keep at my home.

The rest are either full or semi scams.

These so called "gold-backed" shit are no different. Probably even worse than what your bank offers.

im with you here. better slowly acquiring physical gold rather than trust your money to a gold-backed crypto project. the chance of them disappearing is always there. so you have no peace of mind with that kind of investment. even if the project is audited by 3rd party, we still dont know the absolute truth behind its assets and the future plans of their team.


Title: Re: Legitimate Gold-backed tokens?
Post by: Gab20 on June 27, 2020, 11:24:54 PM
Legitimate Gold-backed tokens?

https://www.xaurum.org/en/home  Xaurum was one of first. I have no ideas how good they are. But they exist for 4 years or more.

If they have existed for this long, it means that they are worth looking at as one of the successful ones, for four years in the crypto space is never.
I checked the website and i discovered they are very much active and alive.
I also went further to check xaurum on CMC, I have a good volume, but the only issue is that the price is not in correlation with the real gold price in the global gold market.
The website says that 1000 xaurum is equivalent to 1g of gold and 1g of pure gold as at today is around $55 dollars, but after calculating that of xaurum, it is around $40. The margin is too much.


Title: Re: Legitimate Gold-backed tokens?
Post by: ryzaadit on June 27, 2020, 11:49:35 PM
but Im not sure if they can really get the physical grams of gold if they avail or the stock keeping some where under the hood of gold location or storage.
I asking this question to their thread a few months ago.

They said: you can Exchanging/claiming "DIGITAL GOLD' to "PHYSICAL GOLD" but the process was to complex, long and hard. Also, the fee to claiming the physical gold was to high. Well, the good things about them, their price token was really stable when we comparing a shit project who have a same idea but can't really prove it the audit token was really backup by gold.


Title: Re: Legitimate Gold-backed tokens?
Post by: blockman on June 29, 2020, 03:34:25 PM
So far this is the only project that I have seen in this community that somewhat legit as far as being a gold backup coin or token. And as far as I know, it's already been tradeable on exchanges and those signature campaigns have been running for a year or more than. But I haven't follow the price though, if it has been pump or not. But definitely, this project should be on anyone's radar.
How about the gold project that we have in the forum? It's a stable coin which said backed up by gold. I haven't gone through the whole thing but they are one of the most active gold-backed project.
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5161544.0)
Yes, it is on an exchange and they have a great volume of nearly $3M in their 24-hour volume. That's actually a lot of volume but we will never know how long that volume shall remain.
(https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/digital-gold/markets)


Title: Re: Legitimate Gold-backed tokens?
Post by: Skinny48 on June 29, 2020, 04:54:24 PM
I doubt if there is really any gold backed tokens with genuine proof of having gold that backed their tokens, I'm more interested in gold physically than investing in tokens that are claimed to be backed by real gold with zero proof


Title: Re: Legitimate Gold-backed tokens?
Post by: Abiky on June 29, 2020, 06:57:02 PM
There were many attempts to create gold backed tokens, but as you know the biggest problem is to bring trust into this industry. Only company that achieved this goal is Paxos and its token Pax gold.

Thanks for your recommendation. Never heard about Paxos' Gold offering until now. Been used to Digix Gold for a long time, but was eager for other legitimate alternatives in the crypto/Blockchain space. I think Gold-backed tokens will work as intended if they're properly regulated in the mainstream world. Governments could fine or imprison company members if they don't deliver as promised to investors. The more legitimate Gold-backed tokens there are on the Blockchain, the better exposure and mainstream adoption the industry will get.

I've been reading about Paxos lately, and it does seem to be legitimate. Still, I'm not sure if Pax Gold can be traded for physical Gold. But at least, you get the advantage of "hodling" Gold with the security/reliability of Blockchain technology. We can use Gold-backed tokens as a hedge against Fiat or traditionally-volatile cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin or Ethereum.


The only gold-backed tokens I trust, is the physical gold coins I keep at my home.

The rest are either full or semi scams.

These so called "gold-backed" shit are no different. Probably even worse than what your bank offers.

Believe me, sometimes it's better to hold Gold at your home than just trusting a third-party with your hard-earned money. The industry is still full of scams, leaving us with very little options to choose from. The only issue of holding Gold at home, is that it brings many security risks with it. You can expose yourself to theft, without being able to recover your losses because of lack of insurance. If you decide to hold Gold at home, you need to keep in mind that the responsibility of securing/protecting valuable assets lies on yourself. Still, if there are no other options available, there's always a "Plan B". ;)


Title: Re: Legitimate Gold-backed tokens?
Post by: Zotak337 on June 29, 2020, 07:09:56 PM
I just don't get it why there is the new trend of Gold slash any valuable elements backed cryptocurrency? Goes and buy the real thing instead from a dubious group claim to have that in storage and give you back some token. Like really?
Do you know how easier this trick can be used to scam people? Just imagine if the Scammers can provide real video showing their gold and claiming that their token is backed by real gold? Every one will believe right? Well this still doesn't mean the gold belong to them, this type of use case will only look proper in my eye if it's coming from a well knows gold company rather than from random people


Title: Re: Legitimate Gold-backed tokens?
Post by: ScamViruS on June 29, 2020, 07:18:49 PM
It’s up to me to doubt whether they will actually do anything original. Gold backed coins they would say right but the reality is something else.

Since you don't have physical gold, you can't expect anything good here. You can take as an example by tracking usd backed stablcoins. Then you will understand how fake backed scams are running.


Title: Re: Legitimate Gold-backed tokens?
Post by: Zionatin on June 29, 2020, 10:07:41 PM
You don't need tokens or coins or any currency for that matter to be "backed" by gold. Fiat is "backed" by gold but have any of you ever traded in gold or had your fiat returned for a gold brick? You know its there but its only for "piece of mind" having currency backed by rare things like gold is a very old way of thinking. Currency actually runs on debt. "I promise to pay the bearer a sum of" that means you owe the owner of the note. Debt is a word with a negative meaning so people assume its bad but currency working on debt is bad thing it is the way it is run. That note in your hand will continue to be owed to its bearer many times over.

All currency is, is something that is hard to copy and will not perish easily which can be sent to someone else. People need to agree to use it. This is why I say you do not need gold. The note you gave me for my work means that you owe me the amount = to that written on the note and I can then exchange and pass it on to another person. It is backed by the fact that you can trade it. You can use it in place of having to trade items directly.



Title: Re: Legitimate Gold-backed tokens?
Post by: Abiky on July 04, 2020, 12:57:39 AM
It’s up to me to doubt whether they will actually do anything original. Gold backed coins they would say right but the reality is something else.

Since you don't have physical gold, you can't expect anything good here. You can take as an example by tracking usd backed stablcoins. Then you will understand how fake backed scams are running.

Good point. There have been so many scams out there, that it's hard to separate the "good" tokens vs the "bad" ones. Your better off "hodling" physical Gold yourself as long as you don't disclose its location to anyone. A well-hidden safe deposit box may be all you need to keep your Gold investment safe for a very long time. Most of these boxes are waterproof and fireproof, making them a great way to store your bullion. I wouldn't trust a Blockchain-based token that claims to be "backed by Gold", unless the issuer provides some sort of legally-binding proof. Most of the Gold-backed tokens I've stumbled with, don't allow you to trade them for real Gold. You're just "hodling" a virtual asset that's speculatively linked to the price of real Gold.

Based on my findings, Paxos Gold and Digix Gold are the only legitimate Gold-backed tokens in the crypto/Blockchain industry. The rest are simply a complete fraud. Some say that Tether's Gold and stablecoin offerings are shady because of the company's lack of transparency. That's why we need heavy-handed regulation in the crypto industry, in order to legitimize it as much as possible. Only then, money will start pouring in from institutional investors, paving the way for truly legitimate tokens that are backed by real world assets/commodities. Just my thoughts ;D