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Title: Plagiarism in newbies
Post by: GeorgeJohn on June 30, 2020, 02:22:37 AM
Plagiarism from the newbies are big strategies for down fall of any beginner's because the newbies will never make a quality post of there own if they continued plagiarism base on the characteristics of coping another persons work or post which will totally bring reduction or removal of the author.
I directly advice newbies to leave plagiarism and compose a better post that will elevate us in the forum.
All the beginners let us try to comprehend some concepts that leads for quality post to avoid constant flows of plagiarism in the forum.

1.read carefully before responding to topics and composition of a text.

2.lack of focus via construction of topic or text

3.felling inferior or irrelevant in forum and posts

4.relevant topics

5.avoid not to write on board that is higher than you

6.read from all the board in the forum to acquire more knowledge.


Title: Re: Plagiarism in newbies
Post by: jackg on June 30, 2020, 02:26:28 AM
I don't think the plagiarisers are actually new to the forum so this will probably go over many people's heads....

The only way for the forum to quash plagiarism is through bans imo as I don't think it's something users are doing as soon as they trice (if not told by someone else to) - that being said I can't speak for the alt boards people could probably get away with stuff there because it's so active with posters so may be where they try.


Title: Re: Plagiarism in newbies
Post by: GeorgeJohn on June 30, 2020, 02:33:44 AM
I don't think the plagiarisers are actually new to the forum

Yeah plagiarism is not new matter in the forum accepted but the level of plagiarism in the forum is too high and needs to be eradicated.


Title: Re: Plagiarism in newbies
Post by: btc_angela on June 30, 2020, 03:13:28 AM
You can also report them here if you found some members blatantly copy and pasting Report plagiarism (copy/paste) here. Mods: please give temp or permban as needed (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.0/).


Title: Re: Plagiarism in newbies
Post by: KrisAlex18 on June 30, 2020, 04:55:30 AM
Doing plagiarism mostly happen to the beginners because they are newbies and they don't understand well something about the forum, some newbies realize that plagiarism is prohibited on this forum because they haven't tried reading the rules and guidelines of the forum, there are also some people that even though the had already read the rules and guidelines they still keep doing plagiarism because of thinking that there would be no one that can find it as plagiarism, their intention is good to have quality and share good posts, but they have done it with the wrong moves because they had stolen others content.
I don't think the plagiarisers are actually new to the forum

Yeah plagiarism is not a new matter in the forum accepted but the level of plagiarism in the forum is too high and needs to be eradicated.

Well aaid, there us always plagiarism in any forums, well that is not surprising because I also did it before when I was a beginner in other forum.


Title: Re: Plagiarism in newbies
Post by: Jawhead999 on June 30, 2020, 06:06:20 AM
Yeah plagiarism is not new matter in the forum accepted but the level of plagiarism in the forum is too high and needs to be eradicated.
If you find some members is do plagiarism, you can report it like @btc_angela said above. Most of them will got nuked, temp-ban or perma-ban from moderators.

To avoid plagiarism is simple, all you need is never copy-pasting other people post/work without give the original source.


Title: Re: Plagiarism in newbies
Post by: samputin on June 30, 2020, 06:11:21 AM
<...> their intention is good to have quality and share good posts, but they have done it with the wrong moves because they had stolen others content.
Well, plagiarism is plagiarism. If they can't express ideas of their own and use others, they should always bear in mind to give credit to the original source. It's understandable that beginners don't have enough knowledge about some things yet, that's why they have to read the articles thoroughly first then give their own view of it. Not merely copy and paste. Point is, if you know that the idea is not yours, give credit where credit is due.

Plagiarism is not a new issue in this forum. Least we can do to help in eliminating it is to report them to mods so they can give the necessary action.


Title: Re: Plagiarism in newbies
Post by: XZERO1 on June 30, 2020, 06:38:47 AM
Usually new users that copy other users posts or other websites content without providing source get reported very fast here and they get permaban in most cases immediately after that so they don't stay much in the forum to promote to higher ranks or make a mess out of sections, so it's not concerning.

I am in some other forums as well and the problem of plagiarism is way more obvious there and very little is being done to remove those plagiarised contents or at least deal with those who does that on a daily basis.


Title: Re: Plagiarism in newbies
Post by: Peanutswar on June 30, 2020, 07:23:25 AM
If you think that the particular post is made by plagiarism we have the google search engine and search the part of the statement and if there is a statement the same like the actual post you can use the Report to moderator or direct to this thread.

Report plagiarism (copy/paste) here. Mods: please give temp or permban as needed (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.0/).

Beside on google search engine, we have the different plagiarism checker like the Grammarly Plagiarism Checker.

And Quetext to help you.

https://i.imgur.com/E2EHcXf.jpg[/center]

To the newbies who want to earn merit easily be creative, don't limit your self just to read by the content of others make your own one and share too.


Title: Re: Plagiarism in newbies
Post by: jseverson on June 30, 2020, 07:42:57 AM
Doing plagiarism mostly happen to the beginners because they are newbies and they don't understand well something about the forum, some newbies realize that plagiarism is prohibited on this forum because they haven't tried reading the rules and guidelines of the forum

I know the forum has an official rule against it, but really, is there anywhere plagiarism is allowed? IMO this shouldn't even be an explicit rule considering it isn't tolerated on any platform. It's almost like saying you don't understand the laws in an overseas trip when caught stealing.

The only way for the forum to quash plagiarism is through bans imo as I don't think it's something users are doing as soon as they trice (if not told by someone else to) - that being said I can't speak for the alt boards people could probably get away with stuff there because it's so active with posters so may be where they try.

The current punishment is a sig ban right? It's a pretty good solution considering people mostly only plagiarize for their sigs; the few who don't are still given a chance to participate in discussions.


Title: Re: Plagiarism in newbies
Post by: ololajulo on June 30, 2020, 07:55:44 AM
Being a newbie is not the reason for plagiarism, we were all newbie at a time in this forum and was never accused. I feel the notion of joining the forum is more of the bounty and some dont know what plagiarism looks like. Plagiarism could be treated on a thread like every other topics, let people know how to write and quote rightly especially on this forum. I also think outright ban on plagiarism should be relax to give forum users opportunity to learn


Title: Re: Plagiarism in newbies
Post by: crwth on June 30, 2020, 08:03:50 AM
It's a cheater way. Taking the easy road compared to producing their post and doing actual research. They might be thinking that it's an easy way to get post counts here and "possibly" get merit with the copying. They probably believe that plagiarism is an easy way to level up with the current rules. Copying somebody else's work and passing it as your own is unacceptable in any kind of discipline. It should be known to all already and common sense.  >:(


Title: Re: Plagiarism in newbies
Post by: DdmrDdmr on June 30, 2020, 08:37:25 AM
<…> The current punishment is a sig ban right? It's a pretty good solution considering people mostly only plagiarize for their sigs; the few who don't are still given a chance to participate in discussions.
Not really. The vast majority of the cases lead to a permanent ban straight off. Very few people are granted a signature ban instead, and those that do are forum members that, in the big picture, are considered net positive to the forum (and have likely needed to appeal their permanent ban in the first place, commuted for a signature ban after review).

This list kept track of (some) ban appeals for some time: [ BAN APPEAL]UPDATE: Total table + Ban status (Need feedback from Global mods) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5144410.0), but is no longer up-to-date.


Title: Re: Plagiarism in newbies
Post by: sheenshane on June 30, 2020, 09:23:13 AM
Last year the biggest ban waved (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5141807.0) has come, there are 1,939 total numbers of banned members and most cases are plagiarized, the largest members had banned are newbies accounts (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5141807.msg52353049#msg52353049). I don't know if what tool they used to determine plagiarized content, they had harvested a lot of plagiarism accounts at that time.

Plagiarism is really restricted everywhere, and once a plagiarist will be always a plagiarist even how many accounts he had it might be continued cheating on other's work. Laziness might one of the reasons why those plagiarists continue doing that and they never know there might have a punishment ahead once they had caught.

I may suggest to newbies just build and construct your own content, as long as it is readable and understandable to others that will be fine.


Title: Re: Plagiarism in newbies
Post by: gentlemand on June 30, 2020, 10:07:06 AM
I don't think newcomers realise how disliked plagarism is here, and I don't really get it either but it is what it is. They will be visiting instant death upon themselves.

My own favourite was someone plagarising me literally the post below. At least put a little bit of effort in.

And when you add up the time expended on putting together posts plagarised from multiple posts or using the services to disguise it you could've written your own post in less time.


Title: Re: Plagiarism in newbies
Post by: Lordhermes on June 30, 2020, 01:10:56 PM
Most beginners haven't been aware that plagiarism is not accepted here, some plagiarist unveils the inner disrespectful character in them, many whose posts were plagiarized had been moved to trashed waste bin and the poster where ban immediately.
Report all cases of plagiarism on LoyceV thread here.    
Report plagiarism (copy/paste) here. Mods: please give temp or permban as needed, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.0


Title: Re: Plagiarism in newbies
Post by: COVID-19 on June 30, 2020, 01:37:27 PM
What planet are you from?
Theft is a crime all over the world.
Theft of intellectual property has the same gravity and is a crime. You're just less likely to get caught and punished, except for CSW.


Title: Re: Plagiarism in newbies
Post by: Harlot on June 30, 2020, 01:39:39 PM
Also based from what I have seen in previous cases newbies that  don't resort to copying the texts directly they always opt out paraphrasing the text as well. Paraphrasing is good however text-spinning or word swapping is not, technically you still plagiarized the content as you just swap out words or switch their position either way it is still the words or point from the original creator. If you want to paraphrase something you must write it on your own without directly copying the sentence construction of what others have said. Safest way to be involve in the topic is to know what they are talking about and read some more references before you start composing your own post.


Title: Re: Plagiarism in newbies
Post by: Subbir on June 30, 2020, 02:10:28 PM
Theft isn't a replacement topic within the forum it's been around for an extended time a way better thanks to stealing There are many of us within the forum who aren't ready to make quality posts. they modify the sort of posts through piracy However the moderator can ban if he wants. If we expect something maybe a scam report it to the moderator and he will only be ready to delete it Therefore before posting you've got to write down the syllabus well then write it generally.


Title: Re: Plagiarism in newbies
Post by: BITCOIN4X on June 30, 2020, 03:05:52 PM
I don't think newcomers realise how disliked plagarism is here, and I don't really get it either but it is what it is. They will be visiting instant death upon themselves.
Of course, your word are really polite and right on target, when I was a beginner I also did not know enough about the rules of the forum that plagiarism is the most prohibited thing here and it is the deadliest weapon for suicide on bitcointalk forum. :D

Actually there are rules that have been set in the forum for all member and which must be obeyed, but because at first many user are confused about the rules, plagiarism seem inevitable and that will be an experience. Sometimes knowledge is gained from experience, but for those who are familiar with online forum, they will first find out the rules in force before carrying out activities here.


Title: Re: Plagiarism in newbies
Post by: tbct_mt2 on June 30, 2020, 03:11:07 PM
 [TIPS] to avoid plagiarism (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5133485.0). I don't pump it and people probably forget my topic on plagiarism. After reading it, you will find out that there are second chances for people who deserve but please don't plagiarise anything. Your odds to be given a second chance is very very low. Remember that, please.


Title: Re: Plagiarism in newbies
Post by: Becky666 on June 30, 2020, 03:32:02 PM
I don't think the plagiarisers are actually new to the forum
Yeah plagiarism is not new matter in the forum accepted but the level of plagiarism in the forum is too high and needs to be eradicated.
It will be more difficult to eradicate plagiarism from this forum or from the internet. We'll agree at the rate of plagiarism, we can only suppress it growths on this platform but can't be eradicated. Even in the real world people still plagiarise their documents, pictures among  other things. But, working together for the good of this forum can drastically reduce plagiarise contents on this platform. There are several sanctions over plagiarise contents on the internet.


Title: Re: Plagiarism in newbies
Post by: Stedsm on June 30, 2020, 06:23:00 PM
It's not just a newbie issue but has become an issue for those who ever plagiarised and either intentionally or accidentally forgot to credit the person who was behind that comment. The only thing for newbies to do is to go by the rules, but for that they need to read them first else nothing could help them. Plagiarism is being done more by those who come here only for money making.


Title: Re: Plagiarism in newbies
Post by: famososMuertos on June 30, 2020, 11:31:40 PM
Although according to a user who provides accurate statistics that plagiarism occurs in novice users, it is good to clarify that it is not a situation that occurs only in novices.

Newbie, it can only mean that you are new to the forum, due to an enrollment date and an immediate rank you receive, but in reality it may even be another advanced user who comes with another account to Trolear with for example duplicate content.

I think that the true newbie if we could draw his blood and determine that he does not know the forum and has never been in another, the newbie it comes to do things well!

Copying is not something exclusive to a forum or is something you have to read in the rules to find out and say, "ahh!" copying is wrong. They teach it to you at elementary school.

So, this is not the school, if you copy yourself, you steal content, it has its consequences, think about it, must we say it how many times?


Title: Re: Plagiarism in newbies
Post by: Twinkledoe on June 30, 2020, 11:41:54 PM
Although according to a user who provides accurate statistics that plagiarism occurs in novice users, it is good to clarify that it is not a situation that occurs only in novices.

Newbie, it can only mean that you are new to the forum, due to an enrollment date and an immediate rank you receive, but in reality it may even be another advanced user who comes with another account to Trolear with for example duplicate content.

I think that the true newbie if we could draw his blood and determine that he does not know the forum and has never been in another, the newbie it comes to do things well!

Copying is not something exclusive to a forum or is something you have to read in the rules to find out and say, "ahh!" copying is wrong. They teach it to you at elementary school.

So, this is not the school, if you copy yourself, you steal content, it has its consequences, think about it, must we say it how many times?

What more can I say? Newbie or not, there's no excuse in this plagiarism thing. Because if you always practice not to copy from someone else's post or work, you will always write in your own words. So even if you are a newbie, you will not experience this plagiarism issue. As long as you are writing from your own thoughts and if it happens that you got it from somewhere else, you need to put some sort of reference or disclaimer. I totally agree that this issue is not only for newbies.


Title: Re: Plagiarism in newbies
Post by: seoincorporation on July 01, 2020, 02:20:54 AM
Plagiarism has been an old problem in the forum since a long time ago, looks like is hard for some people to make their own posts or bring their own ideas. And to fight this war is in our hands to report that kind of posts, it doesn't take much time and is a big help for the forum.


Title: Re: Plagiarism in newbies
Post by: AakZaki on July 01, 2020, 05:39:34 AM
Theft isn't a replacement topic within the forum it's been around for an extended time a way better thanks to stealing There are many of us within the forum who aren't ready to make quality posts. they modify the sort of posts through piracy However the moderator can ban if he wants. ~snip~
Ready or not ready to make quality posts still have to pay attention to the goals and intentions of the threads discussed. Sometimes beginners only post spam words in response to other people's posts and even carry out acts of plagiarism such as copying other people's comments with a few modifications.

this is what causes beginners to not develop. They remain beginners because they do not try to learn how to interact and exchange ideas in this forum.


Title: Re: Plagiarism in newbies
Post by: BITCOIN4X on July 01, 2020, 06:50:21 AM
Ready or not ready to make quality posts still have to pay attention to the goals and intentions of the threads discussed. Sometimes beginners only post spam words in response to other people's posts and even carry out acts of plagiarism such as copying other people's comments with a few modifications.

this is what causes beginners to not develop. They remain beginners because they do not try to learn how to interact and exchange ideas in this forum.

LOL, but it really happened in the forum. There are many cases of account that are banned due to copying post on other website or other user post when they are beginners. Many user complain that they never do it when they dont remember it after a few years. But in reality, they do it without being aware of the side effect of their account when they are beginners or low ranking.

Plagiarism can never be accepted in forum, therefore a beginner must know this correctly and its time they avoid it and never do it. One good way to do this is to learn and get used to posting quality thing based on your own ideas and thought. One word of wisdom, there is no need to be an expert in all fields but enough to know the rules are thing that must be upheld. The bitcoin forum does not require all users to be able to know everything about bitcoin in detail like an expert, but it is good enough if we are interested to know it.


Title: Re: Plagiarism in newbies
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on July 01, 2020, 09:50:10 AM
Now, despite the general rejection of plagiarism, I still see cases among beginners. This clearly shows that newcomers write a lot of plagiarism on the forum in order to increase activity or participate in subscription companies. What can be said to such people? The only thing is that sooner or later their account will be blocked. Then in Meta begin the tearful requests for forgiveness.

Here's a recent example of such a hasty newbie who copied text for his post.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg54714064#msg54714064

The plagiarism of those people who have only reports on Bounty companies in their message history is especially noticeable.


Title: Re: Plagiarism in newbies
Post by: tbct_mt2 on July 01, 2020, 01:36:09 PM
Now, despite the general rejection of plagiarism, I still see cases among beginners. This clearly shows that newcomers write a lot of plagiarism on the forum in order to increase activity or participate in subscription companies. What can be said to such people? The only thing is that sooner or later their account will be blocked. Then in Meta begin the tearful requests for forgiveness.

Here's a recent example of such a hasty newbie who copied text for his post.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg54714064#msg54714064

The plagiarism of those people who have only reports on Bounty companies in their message history is especially noticeable.
I can understand why some people break rules with plagiarism. In some countries, people are familiar with cracked softwares, and plagiarisms are not detected well. Local laws are not strict on plagiarisms, in universities, colleges and I am sure such people don't feel any problem (from their sides) when copying and pasting for their posts on the forum, and don't care to leave source link.

Worse, they don't read the forum rules.

Anyhow, don't cry because of your laziness and rule violations because of that. Read rules and don't break them.


Title: Re: Plagiarism in newbies
Post by: yazher on July 01, 2020, 01:58:33 PM
Some veterans members have fallen victim to this kind of action when the banning spree has happened the last year. most of them have been banned because of plagiarism on some of their posts way back from their very first year in this community. Many of those users are now gone last year, you can see almost every day in META section asking everyone why are they got banned and when other users check the possible reason, it comes to the conclusion that the reason no other than plagiarism and that's an automatic permanent banned without some warnings. some others got some second chance but for those who had contributed to the forum. the others are permanently gone.


Title: Re: Plagiarism in newbies
Post by: Lordhermes on July 02, 2020, 06:54:53 AM
Some veterans members have fallen victim to this kind of action when the banning spree has happened the last year. most of them have been banned because of plagiarism on some of their posts way back from their very first year in this community. Many of those users are now gone last year, you can see almost every day in META section asking everyone why are they got banned and when other users check the possible reason, it comes to the conclusion that the reason no other than plagiarism and that's an automatic permanent banned without some warnings. some others got some second chance but for those who had contributed to the forum. the others are permanently gone.
Plagiarism kills the fun part of the forum, it's seems hard for users to brainstorm a quality post no matter how poor jt may seem to be, but as long as we understand what the poster is actually saying is big important, gradually such plagiarist will win the habit of copy/paste other people's structured post. Permaban on plagiarism post is good for the betterment of the forum.


Title: Re: Plagiarism in newbies
Post by: Kong Hey Pakboy on July 02, 2020, 10:21:20 AM
Some veterans members have fallen victim to this kind of action when the banning spree has happened the last year. most of them have been banned because of plagiarism on some of their posts way back from their very first year in this community. Many of those users are now gone last year, you can see almost every day in META section asking everyone why are they got banned and when other users check the possible reason, it comes to the conclusion that the reason no other than plagiarism and that's an automatic permanent banned without some warnings. some others got some second chance but for those who had contributed to the forum. the others are permanently gone.
Plagiarism kills the fun part of the forum, it's seems hard for users to brainstorm a quality post no matter how poor jt may seem to be, but as long as we understand what the poster is actually saying is big important, gradually such plagiarist will win the habit of copy/paste other people's structured post. Permaban on plagiarism post is good for the betterment of the forum.
Plagiarism is not just illegal in this forum that it is really against the law because you are stealing ideas of other people. We all know it is difficult to make a quality post of our own, so we could be recognized and be praised by other people. But stealing other people's ideas or plagiarized should not be done because we can still try to construct our thoughts and opinions in a creative way of our own.


Title: Re: Plagiarism in newbies
Post by: Eco_111 on July 02, 2020, 03:09:14 PM
Plagiarism isn't new I guess, many newbies who are into this won't achieve anything on this forum and the chance of getting ban is high too, it's better to be yourself and learn from others too, there is always first time for everything, just adjust yourself as you go


Title: Re: Plagiarism in newbies
Post by: GeorgeJohn on August 31, 2020, 05:25:21 AM
Theft isn't a replacement topic within the forum it's been around for an extended time a way better thanks to stealing There are many of us within the forum who aren't ready to make quality posts. they modify the sort of posts through piracy However the moderator can ban if he wants. If we expect something maybe a scam report it to the moderator and he will only be ready to delete it Therefore before posting you've got to write down the syllabus well then write it generally.


You are on point, while then plagiarised is because of lack of research and understanding,may people has been stealing peoples work in other to be firm in forum and also earn merit. So therefore it's advisable to create a topic by your self without involving in plagiarism or spamming.


Title: Re: Plagiarism in newbies
Post by: skarais on August 31, 2020, 08:25:41 AM
Plagiarism cases are very easy to find on accounts among beginners because they don't know the risk of using plagiarism that will cause the account to be permanently blocked. To avoid increasing plagiarism in all thread boards, apply each board to have a plagiarism prohibition regulation thread and provide lessons such as tips on avoiding plagiarism


Title: Re: Plagiarism in newbies
Post by: SquirrelJulietGarden on August 31, 2020, 08:31:25 AM
Plagiarism cases are very easy to find on accounts among beginners because they don't know the risk of using plagiarism that will cause the account to be permanently blocked. To avoid increasing plagiarism in all thread boards, apply each board to have a plagiarism prohibition regulation thread and provide lessons such as tips on avoiding plagiarism
It is easy to find. People who plagiarise often write too short posts and if they write a long post, you can put that post under your radar. They are lazy with short posts so if you do long posts, I am sure they will try to do it lazily too (by plagiarism).

The next step is to use google or ay search engine: bing, duckduckgo, or some plagiarism detection tools to investigate that post is a plagiarism or not.
https://www.grammarly.com/plagiarism-checker
https://smallseotools.com/plagiarism-checker/
https://www.positeo.com/check-duplicate-content/
https://www.seoreviewtools.com/duplicate-content-checker/
https://www.quetext.com/
https://copyleaks.com/compare

I found one case (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg55094615#msg55094615) yesterday with help from Google



Title: Re: Plagiarism in newbies
Post by: Alucard1 on August 31, 2020, 08:42:18 AM
Plagiarism is a crime, no matter your reason is, if you plagiarize something then you may go to jail especially if it happens in a big event. There are many reasons why people do plagiarize.
1. They just want to complete the task or requirements easily so they tend to plagiarize any content.
2. They don't even know what to do or to write so they end up doing plagiarism.
3. They think that they cannot be caught for doing it, there are some people who copy other's content and providing different source links so it may look like they paraphrase it.

There are many ways for us to avoid plagiarism, always keep in mind that whenever you get an idea from other sources, you should provide the link, don't also copy the whole content because it will still be plagiarism if you provide only the link and copy it. You still need to paraphrase it.


Title: Re: Plagiarism in newbies
Post by: DdmrDdmr on August 31, 2020, 09:13:43 AM
What is considered as plagiarism on the forum is not new, and has been going on for ages on the forum. In fact, the rule was roughly introduced around 2016:

<…> I had the curiosity at some point last year as to how far back in people’s history did the rules apply (see  A couple of quick questions related to forum rules (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5059998.msg47420530#msg47420530)). The answer was that there is no delimited timeframe for rules to apply.

If I recall correctly, my curiosity was aroused when I checked the forum rules to see when rule 33 had been written:

- It was present at round November 2016 (rule number 33): https://web.archive.org/web/20161121133329/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0
- But not in May 2016: https://web.archive.org/web/20160506061123/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0

Of course, these rules are basically a privately applied based guideline, and obviously can apply to whatever timeframe the Forum wishes <…>.

The probable main reasons for plagiarism boil down to:

-   Creating a post to increase Activity (perhaps more before than nowadays).
-   Creating a post to create a false sense of being knowledgeable.
-   Creating a post to try to earn Merits.
-   Some may be trying to honestly help, by bringing content from elsewhere, but are not aware/forget that they should always reference the source.
-   To make up for a lack of command in a given language.


Title: Re: Plagiarism in newbies
Post by: jademaxsuy on August 31, 2020, 10:58:24 AM
What is considered as plagiarism on the forum is not new, and has been going on for ages on the forum. In fact, the rule was roughly introduced around 2016:

<…> I had the curiosity at some point last year as to how far back in people’s history did the rules apply (see  A couple of quick questions related to forum rules (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5059998.msg47420530#msg47420530)). The answer was that there is no delimited timeframe for rules to apply.

If I recall correctly, my curiosity was aroused when I checked the forum rules to see when rule 33 had been written:

- It was present at round November 2016 (rule number 33): https://web.archive.org/web/20161121133329/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0
- But not in May 2016: https://web.archive.org/web/20160506061123/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0

Of course, these rules are basically a privately applied based guideline, and obviously can apply to whatever timeframe the Forum wishes <…>.

The probable main reasons for plagiarism boil down to:

-   Creating a post to increase Activity (perhaps more before than nowadays).
-   Creating a post to create a false sense of being knowledgeable.
-   Creating a post to try to earn Merits.
-   Some may be trying to honestly help, by bringing content from elsewhere, but are not aware/forget that they should always reference the source.
-   To make up for a lack of command in a given language.

The difficult thing is when one gets ban by plagiarizing a good article or compilation of article but did forget to write down the references. I think modz do not have any consideration whether you are a quality poster (earned some merits) they still ban them. The mods are strictly does not allowed plagiarized content here.

Just for an example the Daniel_stev user was a quality poster but was ban for plagiarism. I do not know if he just copy or paste content intentionally or it was just a mistake that he forgets to mention or posts the reference below.

So, in oder not to get ban simply acknowledge the owner of the article by posting the reference either being qouted or mention or other ways are by posting sources below the post.



Title: Re: Plagiarism in newbies
Post by: SquirrelJulietGarden on August 31, 2020, 11:23:24 AM
Just for an example the Daniel_stev user was a quality poster but was ban for plagiarism. I do not know if he just copy or paste content intentionally or it was just a mistake that he forgets to mention or posts the reference below.
Intentionally he did it!

His ban appeal (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5271741.0)
Reports:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg55069861#msg55069861
For beginners what is technical analysis (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5270503.0)
Translated from source:
https://academy.binance.com/ar/economics/what-is-technical-analysis
It is translated by Google.

What?
I made a lot of effort in writing this topic
In fact, technical analysis for me lacks some concepts for this reason I have benefited from your participation, but although many say that your topic is already translated on one of the sites, I benefited from it because I have not read the similar article before and I hope that next time you pay attention to the translation and be more careful when Choose your subjects

Report on Magd solieman
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg55062191#msg55062191


Title: Re: Plagiarism in newbies
Post by: Assface16678 on August 31, 2020, 12:33:46 PM
Plagiarism is not new on our forum most of the members are making plagiarize because some of the reasons like

Tired reading the full articles
Look as a professional
Get merit
Does not have a proper citation
No source of references


Those are the common factors you can see also there is a lot of members caught them immediately and report into our reputation board.

As early as possible it's better if we keep aware the newbies about the things could possibly happen to their accounts.



Title: Re: Plagiarism in newbies
Post by: jademaxsuy on August 31, 2020, 01:36:46 PM
Just for an example the Daniel_stev user was a quality poster but was ban for plagiarism. I do not know if he just copy or paste content intentionally or it was just a mistake that he forgets to mention or posts the reference below.
Intentionally he did it!

His ban appeal (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5271741.0)
Reports:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg55069861#msg55069861
For beginners what is technical analysis (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5270503.0)
Translated from source:
https://academy.binance.com/ar/economics/what-is-technical-analysis
It is translated by Google.

What?
I made a lot of effort in writing this topic
In fact, technical analysis for me lacks some concepts for this reason I have benefited from your participation, but although many say that your topic is already translated on one of the sites, I benefited from it because I have not read the similar article before and I hope that next time you pay attention to the translation and be more careful when Choose your subjects

Report on Magd solieman
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg55062191#msg55062191
It means that plagiarism is not only for newbie but to high rank users too. Ban for plagiarism has no exemption in rank. But OP focuses that much on newbie which usually does plagiarism because of thoughts that no one is checking on them because they are still newbie. Besides they too forgot to read all the forum rules and regulations. Not only the forum rules and regulations are important to read but other pinned post too. The problem is that newbie has no patience in reading posts and they thought of it as alright to be here and they are good to go.

As days pass since newbie could have hard time participating in the discussion they tend to do a quick google search and for them not to encode it manually copy and pasting is much more easier. Now, if the copy paste post will be reported surely it will resulted to ban especially if reference were not being mention.