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Title: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: notblox1 on June 30, 2020, 12:11:00 PM
There are several websites to compare and find best odds for betting events.
More famous one are used for bookies that don't accept crypto, and only deal with fiat money.

I found out one website for comparing odds only for crypto betting websites, like Stake, Sportingbet, Cloudbet, Nitrogen, Betbtc, Betcoin and others.
You can choose betting website that has best odds for event you want to bet.

Website:
https://bitedge.com/odds-comparisons/

You can set odds in:
-Decimal
-Fractional
-American
-Probability

Examples:

https://i.imgur.com/e3Bw70l.png

https://i.imgur.com/uyuZYGQ.png

https://i.imgur.com/h5DZMSh.png
bitedge.com

I like this website, but you can post similar websites if you know about them.


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: Haunebu on June 30, 2020, 12:42:31 PM
Bitedge has been pretty popular in the crypto circle for quite sometime now. It is my favorite site for comparing crypto betting site odds and for checking various arbitrage opportunities.

I have earned decent profits thanks to their arbitrage alerts(1% to 4% range). The big pro here is that everything is available for free unlike some other sites which charge you for these alerts etc. I highly recommend this site to crypto punters.


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: xxjumperxx on June 30, 2020, 12:43:20 PM
Thanks!
I was looking for a site that does odd comparison for crypto books.
Since Im now only betting on the crypto sites, Sites like www.sportsbookreview.com/betting-odds/ are no use to me anymore.

The site looks pretty neat, very clean!


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: ralle14 on June 30, 2020, 02:20:57 PM
There are other sites that compares odds (like this (https://bitcoinoddschecker.com/nfl/odds/)) but Bitedge covers more information than the others that i've seen.

Good to see that the site is still updated. Back then he used to be active here in the gambling section I remember reading one of his thread about a bet that covered his trip to one of the World Cup matches.


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: wozzek23 on June 30, 2020, 04:51:31 PM
It would be great to actually know the live odds comparison because I am someone who makes a lot of in-play bets and these odds mater a lot. From my personal experience I see the best in-play odds on cloudbet and stake because while sportsbet.io covers more sports they tend to have a higher house edge for live events and the difference is not much but considerable for someone who makes high wagers.

Thanks for the information anyways as some sports are resuming soon so this would be a good tool to analyse odds and make the bet on the most efficient sportsbook but we do have to keep in mind that while of these sportsbook offer slightly lower odds they cover that up in various bonuses and free bets.


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: Ziskinberg on June 30, 2020, 10:38:42 PM
Very useful tool to get the best odds in the market, however in my end I'm already contended with the sportsbook I'm using, I'm not shifting around for convenience reasoning, I think these would be more useful for bettors who are regularly risking big money as a small differences could already give them an advantage or disadvantage. Anyway, great stuff OP, thanks for sharing.


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: leea-1334 on July 01, 2020, 10:46:58 AM
I have used it before but according to my experience the alerts were a bit slow or inaccurate. If I went to the websites myself they would show different ranges (slightly but that is normal) for the games coming soon. It works best for games that are over 24 hours away, but then, not every book shows the odds so quick.

Missing quite a few sportsbooks there:)


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: Haunebu on July 01, 2020, 11:31:31 AM
It would be great to actually know the live odds comparison because I am someone who makes a lot of in-play bets and these odds mater a lot.
It's really tough providing live odds comparisons. The sites that I know usually only offer pre-match odds comparison tools while some charge for in-play odds comparisons.

Crypto sites have lower liquidity when compared to FIAT books due to which I don't think we will find such tools in crypto sportsbooks anytime soon.

I have used it before but according to my experience the alerts were a bit slow or inaccurate.
Missing quite a few sportsbooks there:)
Hmm. I usually check the site regularly without depending too much on the alerts. Also, most major crypto books are available which is why I disagree with your statement that they are missing many sportsbooks.


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: swogerino on July 01, 2020, 11:53:13 AM
I think it is a good help factor for people who bet a lot of money.For me these numbers do not mean anything like the percentage of people who think this team will win but for professional bettors who bet a lot of money can help them have a better view of the picture.


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: freedomgo on July 01, 2020, 12:14:04 PM
I have used it before but according to my experience the alerts were a bit slow or inaccurate. If I went to the websites myself they would show different ranges (slightly but that is normal) for the games coming soon. It works best for games that are over 24 hours away, but then, not every book shows the odds so quick.

Missing quite a few sportsbooks there:)

If that's the case, then it would not be so useful for betters who like to get a timely odds comparison.
Personally, I never tried using the site shared by OP, I use other sites but not consistent since I'm not really a gambler who are doing it for business or as profession.


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: Coin_trader on July 01, 2020, 12:25:26 PM
I think it is a good help factor for people who bet a lot of money.For me these numbers do not mean anything like the percentage of people who think this team will win but for professional bettors who bet a lot of money can help them have a better view of the picture.

That percentage actually means a lot even if you are a professional bettors. That numbers are the probability percentage of winning and professional bettors always search for the best odds that they can win big for lesser risk. All bookmakers knows really well on how they come up on this odds. Most bettors that lose on sports betting are those who are greedy enough to neglect the percentage chance of winning and focus only on the multiplier of there bet.


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: bitbollo on July 01, 2020, 12:45:25 PM
nice tool for arbitrage betting. I haven't never used for my bets.
Personally I am not a fan of these type of arbitrage (too much work for a small win / high budget required) I think it's more useful for finding the best odds for our bets.
It's Always a risk using this tool during a live game :)


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: BitcoinTurk on July 01, 2020, 12:57:35 PM
Although the rates of many betting games are generally very close to each other, we can see that there are very different odds in many different services at some times. Although the score application I use locally provides services to compare these odds, I think it will be useful to use the data of the website you mentioned. In addition, if we can find out from which sources this website is collecting its data, it will lead to much better results. On the other hand, the fact that the data of the current bet rates are provided and the information about the average of these data is also provided is a nice detail.


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: DarkDays on July 01, 2020, 01:00:32 PM
Useful platform here, glad to find a place that allows you to easily change between the awkward American system and more logical fractional systems.

Bookmarked this, I'll be using it whenever some interesting boxing matches start coming on, probably at the end of July or so.

Do they get a commission on bets booked through via their suggestions? They should.


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: alani123 on July 01, 2020, 08:02:26 PM
This surely is a useful site. But odds comparisons are mostly paying off in the long term.

It takes effort to create accounts and keep them funded. The benefits of course show when you are making larger bets rather than doing it casually and more often with smaller bets.

Personally I have been the kind of person sticking to a single platform for my bets. I wonder what range the people using these services bet at.


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: Quidat on July 01, 2020, 08:34:17 PM
When it comes to sports betting then im a type of person that only sticks out on a single platform.I do consider on making arbitrage ones way back but it would really need up big bankroll to feel out
the profits and just like what others been telling that this is somewhat a hassle thing yet you would need to create account on each of those platforms but somehow this post is helpful for those
who do likes to arbitrage. Thanks for sharing this up op!


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: LTU_btc on July 01, 2020, 08:59:02 PM
Very useful tool, thanks for sharing it. I seen many similar websites comparing odds on fiat sportsbooks, but I haven't seen resource where lines on crypto sportsbooks compared. Usually I don't jump between many sportsbooks to make a bet, but when difference is big, why not to try maximize possible profit. But as I understand, they don't offer comparison for live games, because I can't find games that is currently in play. Such thing would great.
And I see just few football leagues on their website and few other kind of sports, for example there is no basketball. But maybe it's because there is not much competitions in play because of pandemy and they are listing just major football leagues.


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: chaser15 on July 01, 2020, 10:53:15 PM
I didn't know this site. Thank you.

Since checking every website odds is time-consuming, this is a great tool.

And the fact that it supports most of the famous crypto sports betting site, that makes it more useful.

Personally I have been the kind of person sticking to a single platform for my bets. I wonder what range the people using these services bet at.

In my case too as I'm used to it. But an increase in a minimum of 0.2 odds on the other site sounds a good deal to me just in case.


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: notblox1 on July 02, 2020, 11:21:22 AM
Using BitEdge in combination with other websites for odds checking is best way to have highest returns.
It would be nice to see them add few more crypto based betting websites.

 


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: slaman29 on July 02, 2020, 12:30:40 PM
Useful platform here, glad to find a place that allows you to easily change between the awkward American system and more logical fractional systems.

Bookmarked this, I'll be using it whenever some interesting boxing matches start coming on, probably at the end of July or so.

Do they get a commission on bets booked through via their suggestions? They should.

Yeah I never got used to american system actually and the british one is actually only useful in a certain way. Why can't everyone just stick to decimal as that's international?;)

They probably put referral links in their promos. I see all odds comparison sites do that.


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: Pamadar on July 02, 2020, 12:59:57 PM
Using BitEdge in combination with other websites for odds checking is best way to have highest returns.
It would be nice to see them add few more crypto based betting websites.

 

Using more references gives better assessments before placing your bets, there are people who are also into arbitrage betting
and with this kind of information, it will be easy for them to track down.

Every opportunities like this won''t be disregarded by sports bettors who really into this business
knowing that they'll be able to manage to generate more money with small differences from available
odds.


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: Ziskinberg on July 04, 2020, 07:53:58 AM
Using BitEdge in combination with other websites for odds checking is best way to have highest returns.
It would be nice to see them add few more crypto based betting websites.

 

Using more references gives better assessments before placing your bets, there are people who are also into arbitrage betting
and with this kind of information, it will be easy for them to track down.

It will if the site will provide an updated odds, but I don't think we will see more opportunity to arbitrage as bookmakers are very smart now and sportsbook are just getting odds from reputable oddsmaker. In addition, arbitrage betting is hard job, you need to focus on it if you like to spot and opportunity, I think it's more possible in live betting.


Every opportunities like this won''t be disregarded by sports bettors who really into this business
knowing that they'll be able to manage to generate more money with small differences from available
odds.
Maybe by big bettors, for ordinary bettors, it does not matter to us a lot, we just look for a gambling site to gamble to have fun, for a little difference, for me, I would not transfer my money to other gambling sites and play with them, I'm a small bettor and I'm loyal with my current sportsbook .


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: Lordhermes on July 04, 2020, 05:51:06 PM
Can this arbitrage betting be regularly used often times? different bookmakers sets percentage greater than each other not on a standard time. I am currently a user of 1xbet platforms because I think their odds are great to bet with to give me a high multiplier of winning on my stake.
Odd comparison are important in the sense that it gives bettors hint to place a bet on some certain games to be played. Most of the times comparing odds during an hour a game to kick up is good and reduces risk.


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: Ulven on July 04, 2020, 09:07:44 PM
I have no idea about these sites that offer odds reviews before, I always prefer to remain in the reliable betting site that gives me the freedom to deposit and withdraw. I cannot create accounts on all betting sites, But there are some who like it, perhaps in the future when all the leagues return to operation, I will rely on this tool, I think it will be useful, and thanks for the information.


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: MCobian on July 04, 2020, 09:12:17 PM
I am among those helped by the website bitedge.com, I can compare odds for crypto betting and choose the best websites. And I managed
to generate a large enough profit because the website bitedge.com. So I recommend for those who want to compare odds for cryptocurrency
betting. Thank you for sharing information about the bitedge.com website, so other people can be helped too. As I have felt it myself.


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: KTChampions on July 04, 2020, 09:53:18 PM
Bitedge has been pretty popular in the crypto circle for quite sometime now. It is my favorite site for comparing crypto betting site odds and for checking various arbitrage opportunities.

I have earned decent profits thanks to their arbitrage alerts(1% to 4% range). The big pro here is that everything is available for free unlike some other sites which charge you for these alerts etc. I highly recommend this site to crypto punters.

How often do arbitrage opportunities arise (and how much in percent)? Judging by the screenshots in the first post, the odds for all bookmakers are almost identical. Maybe I'm wrong, but it’s more realistic to catch arbitration in live betting, theoretically, they should occur more often and they should be more interesting.


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: Viscore on July 05, 2020, 06:25:32 AM
I have no idea about these sites that offer odds reviews before, I always prefer to remain in the reliable betting site that gives me the freedom to deposit and withdraw. I cannot create accounts on all betting sites, But there are some who like it, perhaps in the future when all the leagues return to operation, I will rely on this tool, I think it will be useful, and thanks for the information.


This is not for you, but it could be useful for other gamblers especially those who are betting huge money, like the sharks or the whales in gambling.
For me, I appreciate that OP shared this one but in reality it's not applicable to me as I'm no whale, I'm just an ordinary better who may cry when I lose $100 or more.  :P


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: crwth on July 05, 2020, 06:30:07 AM
I like the idea of where it's easily accessible. You could easily arbitrage this type of bets and compute the output quickly. I haven't tried doing it personally, but I have watched videos in which you could profit from the odd differences between different betting sites. I think this could be helpful for gamblers who are into this type of thing.

I will be watching this thread from now on for future information and reference as well. Thanks for this OP.


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: freedomgo on July 05, 2020, 06:37:14 AM
I like the idea of where it's easily accessible. You could easily arbitrage this type of bets and compute the output quickly.

Sorry but I will disagree with your idea because there is no such thing called easy in arbitrage betting, especially if the information is coming from a free site.


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: crwth on July 05, 2020, 06:45:08 AM
I like the idea of where it's easily accessible. You could easily arbitrage this type of bets and compute the output quickly.

Sorry but I will disagree with your idea because there is no such thing called easy in arbitrage betting, especially if the information is coming from a free site.
What are you talking about? Do you know what arbitrage betting is? I didn't say that it comes from the site but you could do it on your own if you know how to do it. You have to put values in a couple of ways.

  • Stake 1
  • Stake 2
  • Odd 1
  • Odd 2
  • Return 1
  • Return 2

Don't disagree when you don't even know what I'm talking about. Educate yourself with this link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbitrage_betting


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: Barnabe on July 05, 2020, 08:14:12 AM
I like the idea of where it's easily accessible. You could easily arbitrage this type of bets and compute the output quickly.

Sorry but I will disagree with your idea because there is no such thing called easy in arbitrage betting, especially if the information is coming from a free site.
It used to be a kind of obscure world with very little information, but nowadays you can find several websites showing you valid arbitrage opportunities. If you are charging for information, showing a demo of your data (in this case arbitrage opportunities) does not shock me.


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: freedomgo on July 05, 2020, 08:23:17 AM
I like the idea of where it's easily accessible. You could easily arbitrage this type of bets and compute the output quickly.

Sorry but I will disagree with your idea because there is no such thing called easy in arbitrage betting, especially if the information is coming from a free site.
What are you talking about? Do you know what arbitrage betting is? I didn't say that it comes from the site but you could do it on your own if you know how to do it. You have to put values in a couple of ways.

  • Stake 1
  • Stake 2
  • Odd 1
  • Odd 2
  • Return 1
  • Return 2

Don't disagree when you don't even know what I'm talking about. Educate yourself with this link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbitrage_betting

I know what arbitrage betting is, as I'm a gambler I was pretty much interested with that idea before but I realized it's not easy to do it.
You probably need a software or something that would help you spot an opportunity to do an arbitrage betting.

What I disagreed with your statement is the words " You could easily arbitrage this type of bets".....

Which is wrong IMO as we are not looking for bets but the odds differences to bet on.


That site was a free site and if you read the past comments one poster said odds are not timely updated and arbitrage betting based on my experience, you'll have a great chance to spot an opportunity if you are live betting.

Man, relax, that's just my opinion, please don't tell me that I will have to educate myself as I'm a long time gambler particularly in the sports betting and I don't need a wikipedia to educate myself, my experience alone is enough.


I have used it before but according to my experience the alerts were a bit slow or inaccurate.

Based on actual experienced, not THEORY.


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: Shimmiry on July 05, 2020, 09:08:15 AM
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Isn't that platform lessen your capability to bet on yourself? Yes it was helpful as it would show you statistical data on whom has higher chance to win, yet isn't chance a big factor that affects winning as well? I've been gambling for months yet I never tried following odds by certain websites and I've found no problem winning at all. I think it limits your capability to learn things and study a certain game and the people or team you will bet on.


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: Russlenat on July 05, 2020, 09:18:50 AM
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Isn't that platform lessen your capability to bet on yourself?

No, that platform was just showing the odds from different site, your chances to win solely depends on capability in choosing a team to win.
Better odds will just give you better return, that's it, nothing more.


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: Shimmiry on July 05, 2020, 10:00:22 AM
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No, that platform was just showing the odds from different site, your chances to win solely depends on capability in choosing a team to win.
Better odds will just give you better return, that's it, nothing more.

So how would they calculate the odds, by other website and its user's predictions or by other websites and it's own predictors? Nevertheless, one thing or the other, I still think we shouldn't follow nor tolerate the use of such "chance and odds calculator" as there might be some users whom would rather follow those odds than to make them use their logic and critical thinking in putting a bet on a certain team in a game.


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: Russlenat on July 05, 2020, 10:16:39 AM
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No, that platform was just showing the odds from different site, your chances to win solely depends on capability in choosing a team to win.
Better odds will just give you better return, that's it, nothing more.

So how would they calculate the odds, by other website and its user's predictions or by other websites and it's own predictors? Nevertheless, one thing or the other, I still think we shouldn't follow nor tolerate the use of such "chance and odds calculator" as there might be some users whom would rather follow those odds than to make them use their logic and critical thinking in putting a bet on a certain team in a game.

As you can see in the OP, there are 5 sportsbook which has betting odds differences, that odds are the actual odds from the respective sportsbooks, it was just summarized in this site so we can see a picture of comparison and we can choose the best odds if we like.


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: Casdinyard on July 05, 2020, 10:38:08 AM
So how would they calculate the odds, by other website and its user's predictions or by other websites and it's own predictors? Nevertheless, one thing or the other, I still think we shouldn't follow nor tolerate the use of such "chance and odds calculator" as there might be some users whom would rather follow those odds than to make them use their logic and critical thinking in putting a bet on a certain team in a game.

I'm agree with this as I also aren't fond of using such calculators. Based on my experiences, I've seen a lot of user's that lost upon basing of their bets and following those kind of predictions. Meanwhile, I've also lost some as I tried doing the same. Therefore, my stand is with you yet we cannot blame other users that keep their basis on such betting odd platforms, as what Russlenat had been said:
No, that platform was just showing the odds from different site, your chances to win solely depends on capability in choosing a team to win.
Better odds will just give you better return, that's it, nothing more.


As you can see in the OP, there are 5 sportsbook which has betting odds differences, that odds are the actual odds from the respective sportsbooks, it was just summarized in this site so we can see a picture of comparison and we can choose the best odds if we like.

Indeed, it only shows that were based on various gambling/betting platforms. Yet, Shimmiry asked whom dictates such odds on those certain sportsbooks, are they the users, analyst, or calculated based off on the bets and certain algorithms? Odds really is just a statistical chance and numerical illustration of whom has the greater hand in the game, but real researches of current situations would really give you higher chances of winning.


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: nakamura12 on July 05, 2020, 10:55:38 AM
Bitedge is indeed helpful in comparinf bet odds. It is even not that complicated to compare betting odds on different gambling platform. As for me, I am not using such calculator at all times but if I want to find which one is the best then i'll use an odds comparison. I always add to bookmark site that Is helpful for me.


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: freedomgo on July 05, 2020, 11:58:00 AM
Yet, Shimmiry asked whom dictates such odds on those certain sportsbooks, are they the users, analyst, or calculated based off on the bets and certain algorithms?

it's the oddsmaker, they provide odds to sportsbook but some sportsbook have different odds provider, that's why arbitrage betting is possible.



Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: Fundamentals Of on July 05, 2020, 12:40:39 PM
Yet, Shimmiry asked whom dictates such odds on those certain sportsbooks, are they the users, analyst, or calculated based off on the bets and certain algorithms?

it's the oddsmaker, they provide odds to sportsbook but some sportsbook have different odds provider, that's why arbitrage betting is possible.

Sportsbooks release the initial odds according to the odds maker or odds provider. Of course they got the odds from their analysts.

Once the odds are already released to the public for betting, the changes on it are not anymore coming from the odds maker or odds provider. They are now coming from the bets that flow from the gamblers. A team's odds rise and fall depending on how the betting goes.


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: crwth on July 05, 2020, 12:50:58 PM
I know what arbitrage betting is, as I'm a gambler I was pretty much interested with that idea before but I realized it's not easy to do it.
You probably need a software or something that would help you spot an opportunity to do an arbitrage betting.
Sorry about that. I was just surprised and confused about what you are disagreeing with. I should've used a different phrase for what I'm trying to say. Having software would be great to make the computation a lot easier.

Man, relax, that's just my opinion, please don't tell me that I will have to educate myself as I'm a long time gambler particularly in the sports betting and I don't need a wikipedia to educate myself, my experience alone is enough.
I just got the first link that I think is relevant to the conversation. Well, good luck with your endeavors in gambling! Share some strategies if you have techniques about arbitraged betting.


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: freedomgo on July 06, 2020, 01:59:55 AM
I know what arbitrage betting is, as I'm a gambler I was pretty much interested with that idea before but I realized it's not easy to do it.
You probably need a software or something that would help you spot an opportunity to do an arbitrage betting.
Sorry about that. I was just surprised and confused about what you are disagreeing with. I should've used a different phrase for what I'm trying to say. Having software would be great to make the computation a lot easier.
No problem mate, best we can do is to maintain the meaningful discussion here.


Man, relax, that's just my opinion, please don't tell me that I will have to educate myself as I'm a long time gambler particularly in the sports betting and I don't need a wikipedia to educate myself, my experience alone is enough.
I just got the first link that I think is relevant to the conversation. Well, good luck with your endeavors in gambling! Share some strategies if you have techniques about arbitraged betting.

I will, but I don't expect to find a working method in my end as I already quit doing arbitrage betting, I just bet on the team, it's easier and more fun.


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: shoreno on July 06, 2020, 02:17:38 AM
I still think we shouldn't follow nor tolerate the use of such "chance and odds calculator" as there might be some users whom would rather follow those odds than to make them use their logic and critical thinking in putting a bet on a certain team in a game.

I'm agree with this as I also aren't fond of using such calculators. Based on my experiences, I've seen a lot of user's that lost upon basing of their bets and following those kind of predictions. Meanwhile, I've also lost some as I tried doing the same. Therefore, my stand is with you yet we cannot blame other users that keep their basis on such betting odd platforms

why you insist follow others when you already saw that they are loosing ? so obviously you will loose too and it did happen  . you can blame them because those users make you lost and you can also blame yourself for trying it  .

i wont be happy loosing following others , thats why i never use this kind of tools but im only playing own my own  .  if i loose id be more contented but most of the times i never loose because i know what im doing   .


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: Japinat on July 06, 2020, 02:59:58 AM
I still think we shouldn't follow nor tolerate the use of such "chance and odds calculator" as there might be some users whom would rather follow those odds than to make them use their logic and critical thinking in putting a bet on a certain team in a game.

I'm agree with this as I also aren't fond of using such calculators. Based on my experiences, I've seen a lot of user's that lost upon basing of their bets and following those kind of predictions. Meanwhile, I've also lost some as I tried doing the same. Therefore, my stand is with you yet we cannot blame other users that keep their basis on such betting odd platforms

why you insist follow others when you already saw that they are loosing ? so obviously you will loose too and it did happen  . you can blame them because those users make you lost and you can also blame yourself for trying it  .

i wont be happy loosing following others , thats why i never use this kind of tools but im only playing own my own  .  if i loose id be more contented but most of the times i never loose because i know what im doing   .

Just follow your own betting strategy, that's the thing you should do.
A strategy that is working for some people, that doesn't mean it will also work for you, and we gambler might differ in implementing or executing it.

What OP have shared is just part of the tools you will need to make a good decision, and this tool could not be useful in the long run due to some changes, you need to update your strategy as well to maintain some consistency in winning if you are already.


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: michellee on July 06, 2020, 04:19:17 AM
I still think we shouldn't follow nor tolerate the use of such "chance and odds calculator" as there might be some users whom would rather follow those odds than to make them use their logic and critical thinking in putting a bet on a certain team in a game.

I'm agree with this as I also aren't fond of using such calculators. Based on my experiences, I've seen a lot of user's that lost upon basing of their bets and following those kind of predictions. Meanwhile, I've also lost some as I tried doing the same. Therefore, my stand is with you yet we cannot blame other users that keep their basis on such betting odd platforms

why you insist follow others when you already saw that they are loosing ? so obviously you will loose too and it did happen  . you can blame them because those users make you lost and you can also blame yourself for trying it  .

i wont be happy loosing following others , thats why i never use this kind of tools but im only playing own my own  .  if i loose id be more contented but most of the times i never loose because i know what im doing   .
Maybe he thinks that by following them and his luck can come, and he will have the chance to win. But as you say, we can get another loss by following them, so it is better to modify the predictions or strategy or else so the chance to win will be there.

But still, no matter how good we modify the strategy and another thing, if we don't have luck, we will not win and will lose the money. Maybe we need to break a while before we can start a new round.


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: Ucy on July 06, 2020, 09:42:26 AM
Interesting.
I don't know much about lots of the typical betting terms.
I wonder how they determine this and how reliable they are. Wish I could see the past ones and compare them with past games... maybe that will help determine what site will be more successful?


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: Botnake on July 06, 2020, 10:52:34 AM
Interesting.
I don't know much about lots of the typical betting terms.
Be specific, we call it "sports betting terms", here, you can educate yourself.

https://www.thelines.com/betting/terms/

I wonder how they determine this and how reliable they are. Wish I could see the past ones and compare them with past games...

I can see that you don't really know much about sports betting, the site does get their own odds, odds are coming from the sites listed in the OP, was summarized and compared.


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maybe that will help determine what site will be more successful?
I guess we should be talking more about the bettors success, not the site.


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: bandartogel365 on July 06, 2020, 10:58:39 AM
For football betting, does anyone here know the differences between US / Europe odds and Asian odds? Im still trying to understand both.


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: KTChampions on July 07, 2020, 09:26:07 PM
Just follow your own betting strategy, that's the thing you should do.
A strategy that is working for some people, that doesn't mean it will also work for you, and we gambler might differ in implementing or executing it.

What OP have shared is just part of the tools you will need to make a good decision, and this tool could not be useful in the long run due to some changes, you need to update your strategy as well to maintain some consistency in winning if you are already.

Doesn’t such variability of results indicate that the strategy is not working? I have been a member of many gambling threads (and other similar areas like forex) and I know this argument. It seems to me that if a person clearly follows a strategy, then it should work regardless of his individual qualities.


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: Tipstar on July 08, 2020, 11:00:50 AM
Wow, I'm late to the party but thanks. I was always looking for a comparison site like this. We had a lot for the traditional casinos but never found as attractive crypto comparison site as this. I have accounts on all of these crypto betting sites and now I can know where I'd get the best odds without checking every of them. The Arbitrage betting is a plus point but the margins are generally so low that it changes by the time you realize it and tries to place bets.


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: mirakal on July 08, 2020, 11:36:53 AM
Just follow your own betting strategy, that's the thing you should do.
A strategy that is working for some people, that doesn't mean it will also work for you, and we gambler might differ in implementing or executing it.

What OP have shared is just part of the tools you will need to make a good decision, and this tool could not be useful in the long run due to some changes, you need to update your strategy as well to maintain some consistency in winning if you are already.

Doesn’t such variability of results indicate that the strategy is not working? I have been a member of many gambling threads (and other similar areas like forex) and I know this argument. It seems to me that if a person clearly follows a strategy, then it should work regardless of his individual qualities.

Depending on the type of strategy you'll follow.

For example, the strategy in sports betting which I think is effective is " bet against the public",.
It's an effective method as I've mentioned but you can't just follow this method blindly, you also need to spot a match-up that you think one side is heavily favored by the public, so you can spot the value before you take the other side.


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: KTChampions on July 08, 2020, 10:40:40 PM
Doesn’t such variability of results indicate that the strategy is not working? I have been a member of many gambling threads (and other similar areas like forex) and I know this argument. It seems to me that if a person clearly follows a strategy, then it should work regardless of his individual qualities.

Depending on the type of strategy you'll follow.

For example, the strategy in sports betting which I think is effective is " bet against the public",.
It's an effective method as I've mentioned but you can't just follow this method blindly, you also need to spot a match-up that you think one side is heavily favored by the public, so you can spot the value before you take the other side.

The crowd is always betting on favorites. And as far as I know, studies have been conducted and it turned out that the bet on the favorites is the least profitable. You are right here. But the problem is that on average the bet on an outsider is also unprofitable, although the loss is less than in the first case.
Therefore, even such a strategy loses to the strategy "do not bet at all"  :D


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: StephenJH on July 08, 2020, 11:08:44 PM
Oddsportal is the best I have ever used and I still use this service for more than 6 years. The total odds selections and variety of choices in real-time odds update page is second to none for me, the simplicity of live data comparison let me choose the best bookie from  100 alternative websites. Pinnacle has the juicy odds and the second bookie is Asianodds. Pinnacle is unbeatable in terms of reacting any kind of format change and this is the main reason why many punters still prefer to spend time there compared to alternative bookies.


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: mirakal on July 08, 2020, 11:26:13 PM
Doesn’t such variability of results indicate that the strategy is not working? I have been a member of many gambling threads (and other similar areas like forex) and I know this argument. It seems to me that if a person clearly follows a strategy, then it should work regardless of his individual qualities.

Depending on the type of strategy you'll follow.

For example, the strategy in sports betting which I think is effective is " bet against the public",.
It's an effective method as I've mentioned but you can't just follow this method blindly, you also need to spot a match-up that you think one side is heavily favored by the public, so you can spot the value before you take the other side.

The crowd is always betting on favorites. And as far as I know, studies have been conducted and it turned out that the bet on the favorites is the least profitable.

If we look at the overall result, we can only choose between "profitable and not profitable", so I would like to tag the public to be not profitable.

You are right here. But the problem is that on average the bet on an outsider is also unprofitable, although the loss is less than in the first case.
Therefore, even such a strategy loses to the strategy "do not bet at all"  :D

I'm just referring on the overall bets and I'm glad that you have agreed that the public are betting on the favorites all the time, so they will lose most of the time. How I wish I can always follow this method, but TBH, it's hard to follow as sometimes you also like to enjoy watching and your favorite team is sometimes a public bet.


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: Russlenat on July 09, 2020, 09:29:49 AM
Oddsportal is the best I have ever used and I still use this service for more than 6 years. The total odds selections and variety of choices in real-time odds update page is second to none for me, the simplicity of live data comparison let me choose the best bookie from  100 alternative websites. Pinnacle has the juicy odds and the second bookie is Asianodds.

You are referring to this site (https://www.oddsportal.com/bookmakers/)?

I think I didn't find the names of the popular sportsbook in the forum, unlike what OP linked to us.
To my knowledge,  in the list, only 1xbet  accept bitcoin, can you enlighten me if there's more?


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: KTChampions on July 10, 2020, 08:59:58 PM
The crowd is always betting on favorites. And as far as I know, studies have been conducted and it turned out that the bet on the favorites is the least profitable.

If we look at the overall result, we can only choose between "profitable and not profitable", so I would like to tag the public to be not profitable.

That would be great, but we have no such choice in this case. There is a choice between "unprofitable and very unprofitable"  :D

You are right here. But the problem is that on average the bet on an outsider is also unprofitable, although the loss is less than in the first case.
Therefore, even such a strategy loses to the strategy "do not bet at all"  :D

I'm just referring on the overall bets and I'm glad that you have agreed that the public are betting on the favorites all the time, so they will lose most of the time. How I wish I can always follow this method, but TBH, it's hard to follow as sometimes you also like to enjoy watching and your favorite team is sometimes a public bet.

I hope that if you find time to test this method, you will start not with real money bets, but with a theoretical check  :)


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: notblox1 on July 21, 2020, 02:12:39 PM
I am using Bitedge website for some time and I found it very useful.
For example let's look at todays Premiewr League match Manchester United vs Watford
We can clearly see different odds in bookies, and we should use that in our advantage.
https://i.imgur.com/UskwZ9S.png
https://bitedge.com/odds-comparisons/english-premier-league/


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: Shasha80 on July 21, 2020, 06:33:40 PM
For me, bitedge is the best site for odds comparison, at least it helps to choose a probability sportsbook that can provide profit.
Only a small number of betting odds comparison sites accept all cryptocurrency, usually only accepts with fiat. I also like the look
of the website Bitedge is simple and eye catching. Even the features available are quite complete, so it really makes it easy for users.



Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: bitgolden on July 21, 2020, 09:29:17 PM
Only after this topic, I just came to know about existence of these many different odds in sportsbetting world. Unfortunately where I do gamble mostly is not showing up anything like this kind of different odds but only some numbers which are usually 1.1 to 3.5 or something ;D ;D. Surprisingly I have been into sportbetting for years by assuming odds are just the multiplier while winning and nothing more :o.

I guess for the people who get into gambling only after adopting bitcoin and then dicing is the only way for favorite gambling, sportsbetting are something to risky to go with. This is what my level of expose in gambling. But like trading, gambling is also having lots of aspect to learn and make use for better experiences.


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: bitbollo on July 21, 2020, 09:46:04 PM
@bitgolden
sportsbook have this difference in odds since they should equilibrate betting made and reduce the risk of losing their money ;)
best definition that I have found:
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Prices are set in a way that reduces variance and ensures profit while still roughly reflecting the real probability of an event occurring.  This is a balance of making a profit and ensuring punters are still attracted to bet on the outcome.

For reference and more info
https://www.onlinebetting.org.uk/betting-guides/how-do-bookmakers-set-odds-and-make-money.html

However sometimes it depends from the Country since were there is a monopole it's very easy find very bad odds :(
No competition doesn't create any advantage for betters


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: freedomgo on July 21, 2020, 09:50:22 PM
However sometimes it depends from the Country since were there is a monopole it's very easy find very bad odds :(
No competition doesn't create any advantage for betters

You are right, and honestly, I'm thankful that we have the crypto sportsbook where we can easily bet because I heard before, in some countries there are middleman where they accept bet but you are given a bad odds since they also make money, so with crypto sportsbook, we can directly bet on the site, and take note, crypto sportsbook odds are very competitive with fiat sportsbook odds.


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: bitbollo on July 21, 2020, 09:56:27 PM
However sometimes it depends from the Country since were there is a monopole it's very easy find very bad odds :(
No competition doesn't create any advantage for betters

You are right, and honestly, I'm thankful that we have the crypto sportsbook where we can easily bet because I heard before, in some countries there are middleman where they accept bet but you are given a bad odds since they also make money, so with crypto sportsbook, we can directly bet on the site, and take note, crypto sportsbook odds are very competitive with fiat sportsbook odds.

In Italy (my country) I can't bet with betfair.com that has the highest odds of the market .
But I am allowed to play with betfair.it . There is an impressive difference for the odds in exchange games. Plus some markets like "greyhounds" or "Horse Racing" are completely not quoted. :(
Crypto give freedom even for betting ;) since everyone is able to place the bet at best odds in the place that he wants.


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: Ziskinberg on July 21, 2020, 11:45:41 PM

Crypto give freedom even for betting ;) since everyone is able to place the bet at best odds in the place that he wants.

That's the reason why crypto casinos has a good potential in the future as we can gamble in different gambling sites still being anonymous. I don't know how the government can control on the regulation about this but I am one of the people who are enjoying gambling despite the fact that gambling is illegal in our country.


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: Danslip on July 21, 2020, 11:55:03 PM
For those who suffer from illegal betting, using proxy,VPN will solve this problem unless there is a KYC requirement. For finding the best odds checking the live data of odd comparison is not enough, taking your bet few days ago before event is necessary too. Betfair has the exchange for gamblers and they only take 5% from the winnings.  Matchbook does the same thing but with lower percentages.


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: freedomgo on July 22, 2020, 01:56:04 PM
For those who suffer from illegal betting, using proxy,VPN will solve this problem unless there is a KYC requirement. For finding the best odds checking the live data of odd comparison is not enough, taking your bet few days ago before event is necessary too. Betfair has the exchange for gamblers and they only take 5% from the winnings.  Matchbook does the same thing but with lower percentages.

Isn't it risky? I mean, if you get caught using VPN and your real IP was revealed, will your account be compromise.
I'm raising this as sometimes, when I am using VPN, my connection with my VPN server are disconnected, so if its on the gambling site, they might see some change of IP which they will see the real one. Do you have any experience like this?


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: bitbollo on July 22, 2020, 03:12:19 PM
For those who suffer from illegal betting, using proxy,VPN will solve this problem unless there is a KYC requirement. For finding the best odds checking the live data of odd comparison is not enough, taking your bet few days ago before event is necessary too. Betfair has the exchange for gamblers and they only take 5% from the winnings.  Matchbook does the same thing but with lower percentages.

Isn't it risky? I mean, if you get caught using VPN and your real IP was revealed, will your account be compromise.
I'm raising this as sometimes, when I am using VPN, my connection with my VPN server are disconnected, so if its on the gambling site, they might see some change of IP which they will see the real one. Do you have any experience like this?

well, if you're betting from a country "banned" ... it means that you're using also identity of another player.
So it means that you will not payed since you are using a fake account ;)
About another IP ... I think that you can play even from another country (likewise during an holiday) but you should follow strictly local regulations and bookie terms of service.


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: redsun114 on July 22, 2020, 06:30:38 PM
For those who suffer from illegal betting, using proxy,VPN will solve this problem unless there is a KYC requirement. For finding the best odds checking the live data of odd comparison is not enough, taking your bet few days ago before event is necessary too. Betfair has the exchange for gamblers and they only take 5% from the winnings.  Matchbook does the same thing but with lower percentages.

Isn't it risky? I mean, if you get caught using VPN and your real IP was revealed, will your account be compromise.
I'm raising this as sometimes, when I am using VPN, my connection with my VPN server are disconnected, so if its on the gambling site, they might see some change of IP which they will see the real one. Do you have any experience like this?
That is a serious threat but if you are using a paid and genuine VPN you won't be disconnected unless you have a bad internet connection.

You can also try browser proxy like browsec to avoid such problems as browser proxy don't turn off automatically without your permission at least Browsec doesn't from my personal experience.

But all said, I would never recommend anyone to register to a casino where you are using a proxy because the casino can always seize their opportunity once you win big or something they can check your ISP provider and it is really easy to catch proxies to be honest and they will have a legal reason to forfeit your winnings.


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: mezzaluna on July 24, 2020, 02:48:46 PM
I guess another factor that really affects the Betting Odds are the volume of users who are betting on whichever is available. Having different betting odds comparison would be really helpful since you can see clearly on which would give higher rewards when you are placing bets. Its also better to place low bets on higher odds since that would really give you better profit.


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: imstillthebest on July 24, 2020, 02:56:34 PM
I guess another factor that really affects the Betting Odds are the volume of users who are betting on whichever is available. Having different betting odds comparison would be really helpful since you can see clearly on which would give higher rewards when you are placing bets. Its also better to place low bets on higher odds since that would really give you better profit.

if high odds gives you a better profit why need for different odd comparison ?

 we can just choose to place bet on higher odds then and why would you bet low amounts when you knew that itl give you better profit   ?   why not bet high amounts so that you can also win big  but of course winning is not predicted on gambling  .

 thats the only thing that limits gamblers from betting high  and that limits thier ability to earn huge sums  .


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: bearexin on August 01, 2020, 03:51:50 PM

Crypto give freedom even for betting ;) since everyone is able to place the bet at best odds in the place that he wants.

That's the reason why crypto casinos has a good potential in the future as we can gamble in different gambling sites still being anonymous. I don't know how the government can control on the regulation about this but I am one of the people who are enjoying gambling despite the fact that gambling is illegal in our country.
I don't think you are doing the right thing then because once the casinos come to know that you are winning and you are registered illegally then they can always freeze your funds and you have to forfeit any winnings because they have a reason to do that.

By the way you should not post things like that in a public forum because a lot of gambling website owners are here in the forum too and they can easily locate your username on their casino and then they can ask your ID verification,etc since they know you are playing illegally.

But that said, as long as you are losing money no casino will ask any kind of KYC from you ;D.


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: Lordhermes on August 01, 2020, 04:44:35 PM

Crypto give freedom even for betting ;) since everyone is able to place the bet at best odds in the place that he wants.
That's the reason why crypto casinos has a good potential in the future as we can gamble in different gambling sites still being anonymous. I don't know how the government can control on the regulation about this but I am one of the people who are enjoying gambling despite the fact that gambling is illegal in our country.
I don't think so, luckybit is not allowed in my country as stated not allowed my country side to register not even playing a game. I have really thought that since playing crypto casinos games is not regulated by government, but this case is the different in Nigeria.


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: crwth on August 25, 2020, 10:59:38 PM
Who knows by law whether it is possible to organize bets in Ukraine?
I don’t know the actual situation with Ukraine, but in this Google search, you could see that it was considered illegal because of a tragedy with a casino That was set on fire, killing nine people. And it states there that it was a glaze just recently back in July 2020. I don’t know if this is reliable, though. You might want to consult a lawyer there or something for the legalities.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambling_in_Ukraine


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: Finestream on August 25, 2020, 11:07:56 PM
Who knows by law whether it is possible to organize bets in Ukraine?
I don’t know the actual situation with Ukraine, but in this Google search, you could see that it was considered illegal because of a tragedy with a casino That was set on fire, killing nine people. And it states there that it was a glaze just recently back in July 2020. I don’t know if this is reliable, though. You might want to consult a lawyer there or something for the legalities.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambling_in_Ukraine

I think they re-legalized gambling, we have the latest update just this month and hopefully the site gives a reliable information.

https://gamblingcompliance.com/premium-content/research_report/ukraine-country-report-0

https://imgbbb.com/images/2020/08/26/ukraine.png

This law hasn't been finalized yet I guess, so I agree with crwth to consult a lawyer just to ensure your prompt compliance on the legal matters.


Title: Re: Betting Odds comparison
Post by: Waffen on September 03, 2020, 05:56:22 PM
I found it very helpful for myself, thanks OP.