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Title: This is most likely the reason why Bitcoin has been less volatile lately
Post by: Bossian on July 06, 2020, 09:00:56 AM
Bitcoin since 2017:


https://i.ibb.co/wSh47T9/2020-07-06-1053.png


I have not spent time yet to check with the different Fibonacci levels, but we could very well be in a ABCDE Elliott wave (of this kind):


https://school.stockcharts.com/lib/exe/fetch.php?media=market_analysis:identifying_elliott_wave_patterns:wave19.png


It means we will slowly correct to 6k area. I am still holding my short position. I can't be sure this is a ABCDE pattern, I still see 3k as possible, anyway 2022-2023 should be very good for the bulls  :-* I might even lose my bet in 2021  :-\


Some reading:
https://www.24elliottwaves.com/abcde-correction


Title: Re: This is most likely the reason why Bitcoin has been less volatile lately
Post by: XCANA on July 06, 2020, 09:14:57 AM
Few weeks ago, I saw the bears coming and that actually went according to my TA, though many have criticised it to be useless these days. What you said is right but, for you not hoping for a Better 2021 isn't correct if you carefully check Bitcoin past behaviors a year after it halved. There are much hopes  for bitcoin to achieve another all time high than 2020. I could see another bullishness ahead of us into 2021 to 2023.


Title: Re: This is most likely the reason why Bitcoin has been less volatile lately
Post by: Lucius on July 06, 2020, 10:34:03 AM
It means we will slowly correct to 6k area. I am still holding my short position. I can't be sure this is a ABCDE pattern, I still see 3k as possible, anyway 2022-2023 should be very good for the bulls  :-* I might even lose my bet in 2021  :-\

Your analysis has been predicting for months that the price will fall very low, but the price is very stable and holds mostly above $9000. I don't see the point in all these TAs that turn out to be completely wrong in your case.

Or... wait until end of May to see if Bitcoin price breaks the downtrend above 9.5k, then 10.5k and decide accordingly. My opinion is if we see a price above 10.5k this year, 20k will be very quickly reached. However, if we are rejected again, we might see a lower low compared to previous low (3.7k), which means 3k area, maybe even below.

Now if we are rejected again at 10.5k, we will see 3k soon or even below that. The dragonfly doji is a good sign but we need a confirmation at the resistance mentioned above.

Whales troll the market, pump to $11.7k then dump with a possible crash to $3.1k area.

And it's more than obvious that you're pretty obsessed with the $3k area, but the only thing you can count on is something like a market crash due to a pandemic, which could happen if the second wave again leads to a lockdown.


Title: Re: This is most likely the reason why Bitcoin has been less volatile lately
Post by: Coin_trader on July 06, 2020, 10:58:12 AM
I didn't see the "REASON" you are talking about bitcoin less volatility. You are just presenting a technical analysis which shows the movement of bitcoin. Only the volume will give you answer to your question if you are interested to find the and not the pattern that you are pertaining. We know that TA is a self fulfilling prophecy but it not mean that it will really happened.

 
Bitcoin price can be manipulated by a couple of whale traders due to it's volatility and they know the basic of trading. They used that pattern to trap shrimp investors that basing there trading  to the pattern.

In conclusion. The bitcoin was less volatile is because there is no more hype/fud in the market that will cause FOMO to traders. Its not because we are following pattern that's why trading phase are slow down. LOL ;D

EDIT:

I remember you now. You are the TA guy that didn't want to comprehend others idea.  :D

Just ignore my post and I will delete my input after 24hrs. :P


Title: Re: This is most likely the reason why Bitcoin has been less volatile lately
Post by: ethereumhunter on July 06, 2020, 01:22:33 PM
2022-2023 will be a long time than today, and we need to have a big patient to wait for that year. Meanwhile, we can trade by buying low and selling high so we can make a profit. We don't have to wait and do nothing because we have much time to try to make a profit. If you can do that, you will have many bitcoin which you can sell at a high price and the right time. You will not just wait for the time to comes, but you can also try to earn more bitcoin.


Title: Re: This is most likely the reason why Bitcoin has been less volatile lately
Post by: exstasie on July 08, 2020, 12:13:51 AM
Hmmm, that looks a whole lot like the triangle chart I've been posting for the past 4 months! :P



It means we will slowly correct to 6k area. I am still holding my short position. I can't be sure this is a ABCDE pattern

It's still a valid count, but also still speculative since the termination of D and formation of E are not confirmed yet. It will be invalidated if either the B or C pivots are breached before the E wave is completed.

If the market forms a swing low in the 50-70% Fib retracement range (~ $5,700-$7,200) then we'll have a textbook triangle on our hands, with a bullish bias.


Title: Re: This is most likely the reason why Bitcoin has been less volatile lately
Post by: passwordnow on July 08, 2020, 12:27:50 AM
I agree about the possible bull run for 2022-2023 but you can also include 2021 or it could be the year where everything will start so stabilize.
I would also agree that there's still a possible crash to $3k but it's unlikely to be seen. Didn't we just crash last March 2020 and that's already the bottom that we can get for this year or for this entire run?


Title: Re: This is most likely the reason why Bitcoin has been less volatile lately
Post by: dragonvslinux on July 08, 2020, 06:23:22 AM
It means we will slowly correct to 6k area. I am still holding my short position. I can't be sure this is a ABCDE pattern, I still see 3k as possible, anyway 2022-2023 should be very good for the bulls  :-* I might even lose my bet in 2021  :-\

It means we are likely to slowly correct to 6k area as nothing is certain, it's only based on probability. 1% chances happen 1 in a 100 times. Don't go getting yourself rekt!
Your post was 1 one word away from getting merit  :P

Hmmm, that looks a whole lot like the triangle chart I've been posting for the past 4 months! :P


Great minds think alike  ;)

It's still a valid count, but also still speculative since the termination of D and formation of E are not confirmed yet. It will be invalidated if either the B or C pivots are breached before the E wave is completed.

If the market forms a swing low in the 50-70% Fib retracement range (~ $5,700-$7,200) then we'll have a textbook triangle on our hands, with a bullish bias.

Appreciate the input, I skimmed the comments hoping to find your interpretation  :)


Title: Re: This is most likely the reason why Bitcoin has been less volatile lately
Post by: michellee on July 08, 2020, 09:32:35 AM
I agree about the possible bull run for 2022-2023 but you can also include 2021 or it could be the year where everything will start so stabilize.
I would also agree that there's still a possible crash to $3k but it's unlikely to be seen. Didn't we just crash last March 2020 and that's already the bottom that we can get for this year or for this entire run?
I hope that if the crash really happens, the price will not going down too deep or touch $3k because that can make many people panic, and that can trigger to get another crash. But we have a big opportunity to see another bull run that will happen this year or next year or even in the next 2 years. So we need to have more patient until that time comes.


Title: Re: This is most likely the reason why Bitcoin has been less volatile lately
Post by: Wind_FURY on July 08, 2020, 10:02:18 AM


It means we will slowly correct to 6k area. I am still holding my short position. I can't be sure this is a ABCDE pattern, I still see 3k as possible, anyway 2022-2023 should be very good for the bulls  :-* I might even lose my bet in 2021  :-\



Good luck to your short position, but be prepared to cover in my opinion. Weak hands have left, the strong hands are HODLING. The whalecumulators can't manipulate the players of the current market. 8)


Title: Re: This is most likely the reason why Bitcoin has been less volatile lately
Post by: arwin100 on July 08, 2020, 10:42:17 AM


It means we will slowly correct to 6k area. I am still holding my short position. I can't be sure this is a ABCDE pattern, I still see 3k as possible, anyway 2022-2023 should be very good for the bulls  :-* I might even lose my bet in 2021  :-\



Good luck to your short position, but be prepared to cover in my opinion. Weak hands have left, the strong hands are HODLING. The whalecumulators can't manipulate the players of the current market. 8)

Right weak handed persons are getting panic easier when they see some little downside in one moment but I am still positive in my position that we will see something great when 2021 came and I believe by that time we will shoot up since I think the crisis will done together with the effect of the halving will take placed. And for sure whales are now taking their positions for long term purposes at this time.


Title: Re: This is most likely the reason why Bitcoin has been less volatile lately
Post by: fullhdpixel on July 08, 2020, 10:11:25 PM
Bitcoin is less volatile because slowly with time the whales that existed in our market have dissolved by a large number and it is not as easy to disrupt the market by selling a big number of coins so it takes a real reason and some genuine news to alter the market. For example the Plustoken scam did disrupt the market because they dumped a massive amount of coins but that is not because a single whale controlled it.

For me less volatility means smaller and fewer price swings which makes it even better because for people like me, who work online and accept payments in BTC it is important that whatever I earn remains close to the value by the time I sell my coins for daily needs.


Title: Re: This is most likely the reason why Bitcoin has been less volatile lately
Post by: nutildah on December 03, 2020, 11:20:15 AM
Good luck to your short position, but be prepared to cover in my opinion.

Hope he's prepared to pay LFC_Bitcoin for losing a bet:

The halving is in 6 months Bossian, you’re either trolling or totally retarded if you think $4,000 is likely with a block reward halving imminent. That’s a 50% drop from here. It just isn’t going to happen.

Look at the price movements leading up to & following the previous block reward halvings.
You clearly have no idea what you’re doing or you’re trolling & I can’t figure out which.
 
Halving either won't have an impact, or it will but certainly not before 2 or 3 years. It only it was that simple, everyone would be making money with the halving coming soon. That's extremely simplistic to think this way.

Want to put your money where your mouth is?

0.05BTC bet?

  • I say we see a new ATH before 2022
  • You say we won’t?

Deal.

We won't see 19.5k(ish) (new ATH) again in 2020 or 2021, book it.

Hope you will honor this bet :) I will if wrong.

Good if LFC holds his word, I will do the same for sure! If an arbitrary can start a thread about the bet? Terms should be clear: price never goes above previous ATH before 2022. :)

I will be there too and will keep my word no matter what. 0.05 is not that big anyway with the trading profits made since last year.

I a man of my word and will keep my promise to pay LFC

Has the ATH actually been reached yet? Definitively speaking, no (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5296125.msg55741289#msg55741289), but it likely soon will be.