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Hopefully some of you experts might be able to help me.
Somebody has paid me for a domain name which I own (haven't transferred yet). They said they could only pay me in bitcoin on cryptcarbon.com
The payment is there but is the site genuine?
When I try to make a withdrawal to a Kraken wallet it says I have to send 0.02 bitcoin from the Kraken wallet to verify my address with them before I can make a withdrawal.

Is this a con or are they genuinely just wanting to verify the wallet address?
Please help, many thanks.
Jon

No exchange will demand whatever amount of bitcoin to be able to withdraw. Especially knowing the fact that why do you need more coins to be able to withdraw if your account already has coins in the first place?

So, yes. It's a scam. There's no such thing as "verify my address". They'll simply run away with your 0.02 BTC.

It's a con as explained by @mk4.

The fact that they even told you to create an account on a website that you don't even know instead of asking for your personal bitcoin wallet is a red flag already. Anyway, good job on asking before transferring ownership of the domain name.

Correct, this is more likely a scam, so please don't deposit anything, and that site is fairly new,


https://whois.domaintools.com/cryptcarbon.com

So that's another red flag, just over a month ago website and obviously no reviews whatsoever. And if ever you find one, it will be fake reviews.

Ok thanks guys, yes it all seems a bit too good to be true. He claims that he has reached his maximum monthly withdrawal limit from the site so can only transfer internally.
He was also willing to transfer the 1.62 bitcoin before I transfer the two domains (we made a deal for a second one which he wanted too!)

Yes thanks for that I had already googled them and got nothing and the domain was only registered this year but they are registered at companies house.

Thanks for confirming what I was thinking.

Cheers

Whenever you see something that requires you to deposit before you can make a withdrawal, always remember that this is a scam. There is no legitimate exchange that requires their users to have their deposit first before they can be eligible for withdrawal. Such a thing will only be done by scammers.

Yes this is indeed 100% scam, I have exposed this similar themes UI scams here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5197078.msg54650213#msg54650213). And I'm glad that you asked the community first before "giving" this scammers free money.

Thanks again chaps. I feel a bit of a muppet but kind of went along with it as this is all new to me.  It just didn't seem right though especially when they wanted money from me.  No harm done this time except for a few wasted hours but it's been an education.  I can see how people could fall for this!

Much appreciated.

Great that you have asked first. You have already a clue now what they really are. I bet that they wouldn't do serious business with you going on through your own terms.
But if they do, just ask them to send an upfront payment directly to your bitcoin address or go for an escrow.

Is important to know how to select a good exchange for trading. The best way to verify the info of any exchange is in coinmarketcap...

https://coinmarketcap.com/rankings/exchanges/

If the exchange is on that list then there is more chance that it is legit, and i would recommend to users to select a exchange with big capital, while more money has the business we can trust more in them.

That highlighted words should tell you that the site is a scam. No legit site will ask you to send a certain amount of bitcoin in order to verify your address. If they want to verify your account, they would have ask for document for KYC. If you go ahead and transfer the money, you will not access to the fund again and even stand other risk. by the way the website was registered less than 120 days and it has no trustscore. I am also worried why such a business will have site with a year validity
https://i.imgur.com/Xxt1B2Z.png

It's based on the common practise of payment processors and exchanges that require you to prove that you're the owner of a fiat account and send a small amount of money to them, usually something like 1EUR or 1 USD.

They had to make it worth their time so the amount is already significant at 200 USD and irreversible since it's Bitcoin.

Let's hope people won't make those scammers rich.

I am really happy for you because you didn't allow the amount they are offering be a motivating factor for you to make an avoidable mistake. I am sure quite a number of people would have fallen for that scam and even from the mere look of it, it's a well thought out plan which shows that scammers are getting more intelligent by the day. They never needed your site or the domain for any reason what they needed more is your 0.02btc for "verification" that would not happen and I am sure they would even ask for more when that went through.

Many users above me already pointed out to you why that sites is more likely scam. Honestly, there are many scam tricks used from fraudsters to scam you... You need to aware from it, especially if they ask for money. Don't get tricked easily, trust no one and verify first.

Well known scam method these days. If you haven't transfer rhe domain yet, don't do that. The exchange you are talking about is controlled by the scammer themselves and want to scam you 0.02 BTC along with the domain. It has been a trending scam method; everywhere they use this trick.

Man, at least you did the righ thing and asked about it here

This type of scam aren't new to us, because many  times I have personally meant with these guys on telegram. Don't be too quick to believe anyone on this industry because scammers have feasted on so many newbies before now. As per deposits, nobody nor exchange will ask you to make deposits before your funds be transfer to your personal wallet. Anyone with this method is a scammer and you shouldn't do business with them. Thanks for reaching out for such information.

It's scam OP. I do hope you haven't handed over your domain otherwise you have been ripped. The BTC on the website is just code and not withdrawable. It's just there to trick you to send more BTC in the name of fake "verification".

There are so many scam websites of the same kind and design. Check them out and see the similarity.

WARNING: These are SCAM EXCHANGES

1. https://zietrade.com
2. https://bitmaxtrade.uk
3. https://coinegg.uk
4. https://crypto247exchange.com

I don't need to know the website to know if it's scammed or not. Enough with the statement about sending 0.02 BTC to withdraw. That includes the characteristics of fraudsters who want to bring 0.02BTC you want to deposit. I often get fraud with methods like this, but I ignore because it is a trap that will harm me.

Unfortunately I have been affected by this scam. I am always careful and I do my due diligence about things like this.
When I was contacted about a domain portfolio I was selling on Flippa by someone who claimed to be Filip Eklund, I thought it was legit. He gave me a Whatsapp number, which had a profile picture on and the number had Sweden code. I then checked out the exchange where he claimed to have transferred  the payment in Bitcoin in to my account. The exchange is a registered company in the UK, and that made me think it could be legit, and also I checked the company out in Company House, and it showed that it was indeed registered in the UK. Having done all of that, I really did think it was genuine. I then proceeded to register with cryptcarbon.com and then made some transfers from my coinbase account, apparently to prove that I own the wallet I would be withdrawing to. Since then I haven't been able to withdraw any of the Bitcoin from the account. They were citing delays in the blockchains.
One of the main positive things is that I haven't transferred the domains, and the other thing is that I am certain that individual or group will face the full force of the law and I will get my Bitcoin back and more. I am already taking legal action against them.
Why am I sharing this? To prevent this happening to any other person. To share my awful experience with cryptcarbon.com exchange. To share the steps I'm taking to get my Bitcoin back, and encourage you if you've been scammed by this company, you can copy the steps I'm taking. The Law is on our side, so people like this will never get away free.

JYA

The question is , is the amount really worth to fight for in means of legal action? if not then its better to move on and accept that loss rather than spending up more into something which you cant even
be sure that those scammers would be got caught yet we know that anonymity is the primary recipe on why scammers do love to scam people even more.

People never ever learn on making up some research first before making any further step.If they cant find out then you can freely make up some question to this community and ask out
regarding to that manner.You would surely get valid responses and good advice's.

Its just too dumb for people to have no any doubts when they ask out money to verify something or do able for you to withdraw? thats bullshit.

We don't know how the deal made between them and I think the scammer is good on convincing people that's why ye get caught for the old tactics made by scammer.

But if the amount is big then its really needed to sue them but OP should verify first if the identity given is legit since anyone can fake their name online and have dispose their contact numbers and number used for the scheme.

If the amount is not big then I agree with you on this to better move on and learn from this mistake.