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Title: bitcasino is a SCAM
Post by: silverlow11 on July 15, 2020, 04:51:27 PM
bitcasino is one of the worst casinos ever, if you win anything significant they'll lock you out of your withdrawal and demand kyc. if that isn't enough to stop you then they'll probably say you broke one of their unfair terms of service agreements or exploited their game somehow. nothing new, just more casino corruption. AVOID!!!


Title: Re: bitcasino is a SCAM
Post by: Bitcoinsummoner on July 15, 2020, 05:01:18 PM
bitcasino is one of the worst casinos ever, if you win anything significant they'll lock you out of your withdrawal and demand kyc. if that isn't enough to stop you then they'll probably say you broke one of their unfair terms of service agreements or exploited their game somehow. nothing new, just more casino corruption. AVOID!!!
You have created a scam accusation but you have not posted any details also you have not followed the format of scam accusation. Would you like to edit the post as on correct format as described on this link. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260073.0)


Title: Re: bitcasino is a SCAM
Post by: actmyname on July 15, 2020, 05:09:13 PM
You have created a scam accusation but you have not posted any details also you have not followed the format of scam accusation. Would you like to edit the post as on correct format as described on this link. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260073.0)
This is probably another case of those degenerate gamblers spinning out of control and losing a balance they weren't prepared to lose, thereby deflating their emotions which now seek out vengeance by form of online forum drama with indignant spewing of buzzwords and drivel. Wasn't there another case of Bitcasino rambling by some other user? I'm not usually one to throw out alt accusations, but the coincidence is quite improbable.


Title: Re: bitcasino is a SCAM
Post by: TGD on July 15, 2020, 05:20:48 PM
You have created a scam accusation but you have not posted any details also you have not followed the format of scam accusation. Would you like to edit the post as on correct format as described on this link. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260073.0)
This is probably another case of those degenerate gamblers spinning out of control and losing a balance they weren't prepared to lose, thereby deflating their emotions which now seek out vengeance by form of online forum drama with indignant spewing of buzzwords and drivel.

Nope. There many false scam accusation lately about bitcasino.io specifically there slot machine. Most of the accuser are caught tampering the game which bitcasino support explain clearly. Cheater attack bitcasino reputation because they can't cash out there money that lock on there account.

Here is some reference for the recent cheating attempt in the casino: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5260832.0


The guy almost won 171BTC. He admitted that he was a cheater before and his current win was a genuine win. What a clown. I believe this guy is the same with this guy.

LAngel Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5260506.msg54745946#msg54745946


Title: Re: bitcasino is a SCAM
Post by: silverlow11 on July 15, 2020, 05:26:30 PM
did I not already explain my situasion? they use bitcoin but they require kyc?? this is not a fiat gambling site so what is the prupose of this. they hid ethe fact that u need to prove identity before withdrawl so any money deposited is lost


Title: Re: bitcasino is a SCAM
Post by: actmyname on July 15, 2020, 06:46:58 PM
did I not already explain my situasion? they use bitcoin but they require kyc?? this is not a fiat gambling site so what is the prupose of this. they hid ethe fact that u need to prove identity before withdrawl so any money deposited is lost
It looks like either you're not a native English writer or that you're incredibly frustrated. Either of these lead towards very trivialized answers, so bear with the trite explanation and depth: casinos are a little scummy in that they don't ask for KYC before the deposit rather than before the withdrawal. It's also a bit scummy that the ToS covers their ass when they make the claim "we have the right to investigate ... [sic]" but that's how they operate :) . The thing is, though, just because they require KYC doesn't mean that it's a scam - I would use that word sparingly. I would call it shady but scam is going into defamation territory.


Title: Re: bitcasino is a SCAM
Post by: silverlow11 on July 15, 2020, 06:53:18 PM
all these websites on purpose hide their tos so it is hard to find and read. yes it is written in their terms of sevrcies but its still not fair... which casinos online that do not need kyc? i want to move all my money and play on a new website that doesnt want to steal my real life informations


Title: Re: bitcasino is a SCAM
Post by: actmyname on July 15, 2020, 07:00:21 PM
all these websites on purpose hide their tos so it is hard to find and read. yes it is written in their terms of sevrcies but its still not fair...
How many contracts have you signed off without reading in completion, simply assuming the other party is trying to compensate you or is trying to fulfill your obligations completely? It's kind of absurd to assume that others have your best interests in mind when you surely don't have the other party's interests in mind when you're accepting their terms.

which casinos online that do not need kyc? i want to move all my money and play on a new website that doesnt want to steal my real life informations
Probably most of the unlicensed casinos, I'd imagine. Well, there's the beauty of Bitcoin: no one can stop you from seeking out those sites. I would recommend this, rather than a list of sites directly: read the ToS of every casino you register for.

For one, you prevent the act of making a fool of yourself. Additionally, you get to see just how brutally shady their ToS gets. In particular, enjoy the Bonus Terms of Conditions section where they try to drive back the player edge as much as possible.


Title: Re: bitcasino is a SCAM
Post by: silverlow11 on July 15, 2020, 07:43:54 PM
?? i literally ask you for non-scam websites and you can't even provide me with a list. do you work for biscasino?? literally not a single nonscam shittier gambling site on the internet. all of it is rigged, and people like you poke fun at losses and dont help at all. you're a "legendary" member, yet can't provide a single point of advice. LOL!


Title: Re: bitcasino is a SCAM
Post by: actmyname on July 15, 2020, 08:03:36 PM
?? i literally ask you for non-scam websites and you can't even provide me with a list. do you work for biscasino?? literally not a single nonscam shittier gambling site on the internet. all of it is rigged, and people like you poke fun at losses and dont help at all. you're a "legendary" member, yet can't provide a single point of advice. LOL!
I think you need to take a few hours to cool off, because you are composing yourself with the same maturity level of a child at this point. I have personally had some success with a few sites that have advertised on the Gambling section here. If you're going to complain about not having an immediate or direct link to that, then surely you should start thinking about why you want everything spoonfed to you.

FYI: ranks mean nothing on the forum.


Title: Re: bitcasino is a SCAM
Post by: silverlow11 on July 15, 2020, 08:15:39 PM
yes and those same gambling sites that adverstise on the gambling section on this forums are the same ones that have so much threads that prove them to be scams.

for example 10 seconds searching and i already find this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5262142.0

again 100times i ask u for good sites and u cant proved me lol because they do not exist!


Title: Re: bitcasino is a SCAM
Post by: actmyname on July 15, 2020, 08:24:33 PM
yes and those same gambling sites that adverstise on the gambling section on this forums are the same ones that have so much threads that prove them to be scams.

for example 10 seconds searching and i already find this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5262142.0

again 100times i ask u for good sites and u cant proved me lol because they do not exist!
Even if we disregard the fact that the thread you linked actually has nothing in it (details, evidence, story of any kind), it's not terribly difficult to find any "<x> site is a scam" thread since you'll get those complaints - similarly to yours - when it's not necessarily equivalent to an outright scam but rather when it's an issue on the player's end. There are a lot of scam accusation threads out there, but for some reason when it comes to casinos, there are quite a number of accusations that are unfounded. I wonder why ::)


Title: Re: bitcasino is a SCAM
Post by: silverlow11 on July 15, 2020, 08:56:05 PM
all you do is nonstop reply, and yet you still havent answered any of my questions, literally no help. if you keep shitposting im just going to report u to the mods, 0 help from 5 posts.... zzzzzzzzzzz


Title: Re: bitcasino is a SCAM
Post by: Bitcoinsummoner on July 15, 2020, 11:49:01 PM
all you do is nonstop reply, and yet you still havent answered any of my questions, literally no help. if you keep shitposting im just going to report u to the mods, 0 help from 5 posts.... zzzzzzzzzzz
Usually maximum casinos does not require KYC. You can get a lots of casinos list from https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=56.0
You may also search on google to know which are available.
Before using any casinos you have to read their terms and conditions, if so you will not face such a problem.


Title: Re: bitcasino is a SCAM
Post by: Bitcasino.io Support on July 16, 2020, 07:14:13 AM
bitcasino is one of the worst casinos ever, if you win anything significant they'll lock you out of your withdrawal and demand kyc. if that isn't enough to stop you then they'll probably say you broke one of their unfair terms of service agreements or exploited their game somehow. nothing new, just more casino corruption. AVOID!!!

Hi silverlow11,

Could you please send me your username in Bitcasino, so I could take a look.

Regards,
Karl
Bitcasino.io


Title: Re: bitcasino is a SCAM
Post by: silverlow11 on July 16, 2020, 06:18:52 PM
no u pieces of shits stole my money and then when i sunk multiple tx and finally win, and im ready to withdraw my winnings you stop me? im still down from where i began and just tryings to reclaim my losses... its reeally a stupid system if u think about it seriously. like i said FIATS SHOULD HAVE KYC, CRYPTO GAMBLING DOESNT NEED KYC....


Title: Re: bitcasino is a SCAM
Post by: Bitcoinsummoner on July 16, 2020, 07:07:09 PM
no u pieces of shits stole my money and then when i sunk multiple tx and finally win, and im ready to withdraw my winnings you stop me? im still down from where i began and just tryings to reclaim my losses... its reeally a stupid system if u think about it seriously. like i said FIATS SHOULD HAVE KYC, CRYPTO GAMBLING DOESNT NEED KYC....
Haven't you read the last post? If you read the post then why you are not contacting with them? If you already contacted then what is the result of the contact. Why you are crying instead of publishing the reality?


Title: Re: bitcasino is a SCAM
Post by: actmyname on July 16, 2020, 07:11:50 PM
no u pieces of shits stole my money and then when i sunk multiple tx and finally win, and im ready to withdraw my winnings you stop me? im still down from where i began and just tryings to reclaim my losses... its reeally a stupid system if u think about it seriously. like i said FIATS SHOULD HAVE KYC, CRYPTO GAMBLING DOESNT NEED KYC....
A harsh lesson in the matters of ToS and agreeing to contracts that you don't fully read. :'(

I think you are still feeling frustrated from significant net losses, and that's fine! Your lack of maturity and constant deflecting and dismissive nature will surely rectify the losing of your bankroll. Have you considered invoking a more civilized tone instead of behaving like a toddler tossing about in a manic episode because his mother didn't buy him a chocolate bar?

Why you are crying instead of publishing the reality?
Degenerate gambling really fucks with your emotions, as it turns out.


Title: Re: bitcasino is a SCAM
Post by: virasog on July 16, 2020, 07:46:57 PM
no u pieces of shits stole my money and then when i sunk multiple tx and finally win, and im ready to withdraw my winnings you stop me? im still down from where i began and just tryings to reclaim my losses... its reeally a stupid system if u think about it seriously. like i said FIATS SHOULD HAVE KYC, CRYPTO GAMBLING DOESNT NEED KYC....

Are you out of your mind ? Bitcasino.io Support is asking for your username to check the issue but you are again crying and posting shit. It look like you are one of those newbies who either have lost the money and got frustrated  or want to bring a bad name to a casino.
Again, if you are serious, stop posting all non-sense, give your Bitcasino.io user id and other necessary information which can be helpful in your case.


Title: Re: bitcasino is a SCAM
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on July 16, 2020, 08:47:01 PM
What’s the issue with providing KYC, what are you hiding.

There must be 4 or 5 exchanges that have my full KYC, bank statements, selfie photo, home address, mobile number. I don’t understand your problem, if you need to provide KYC to withdraw funds then do it.


Title: Re: bitcasino is a SCAM
Post by: Bitcoinsummoner on July 17, 2020, 05:59:38 PM
What’s the issue with providing KYC, what are you hiding.

There must be 4 or 5 exchanges that have my full KYC, bank statements, selfie photo, home address, mobile number. I don’t understand your problem, if you need to provide KYC to withdraw funds then do it.
Many people do not want to do KYC because:
1. They might have not necessary documents
2. They think personal information might be compromised
3. using multiple accounts
4. Mislead something etc.
But for this user I think nothing happen just lost on bet and behaving like a child.


Title: Re: bitcasino is a SCAM
Post by: virasog on July 17, 2020, 07:19:09 PM
What’s the issue with providing KYC, what are you hiding.

There must be 4 or 5 exchanges that have my full KYC, bank statements, selfie photo, home address, mobile number. I don’t understand your problem, if you need to provide KYC to withdraw funds then do it.
Many people do not want to do KYC because:
1. They might have not necessary documents
2. They think personal information might be compromised
3. using multiple accounts
4. Mislead something etc.
But for this user I think nothing happen just lost on bet and behaving like a child.

I also do not like KYC but if a situation is like this similar to OP and showing the KYC can be beneficial to get the funds back, its better to do the KYC. That's why most of the gambling site does not require KYC, but in case of any issue or dispute they can demand the KYC.


Title: Re: bitcasino is a SCAM
Post by: silverlow11 on July 17, 2020, 08:38:20 PM
What’s the issue with providing KYC, what are you hiding.

There must be 4 or 5 exchanges that have my full KYC, bank statements, selfie photo, home address, mobile number. I don’t understand your problem, if you need to provide KYC to withdraw funds then do it.

just because i dont want to provide kyc doesn't mean im hding anything. it is simply a prviacy issue. utter nonsense for so many websites to require kyc for withdrawls but not for deposits. if thats teh case then dont even let me deposit in the first place without kyc.


Title: Re: bitcasino is a SCAM
Post by: silverlow11 on July 17, 2020, 08:46:28 PM
not sure why there's a overwhelming support of kyc besides one other user. i cant think of a single scenario where it helps anyone other than the casinos for taking informations of the users


Title: Re: bitcasino is a SCAM
Post by: actmyname on July 17, 2020, 09:06:47 PM
just because i dont want to provide kyc doesn't mean im hding anything. it is simply a prviacy issue. utter nonsense for so many websites to require kyc for withdrawls but not for deposits. if thats teh case then dont even let me deposit in the first place without kyc.
not sure why there's a overwhelming support of kyc besides one other user. i cant think of a single scenario where it helps anyone other than the casinos for taking informations of the users
I suggest that you adjust yourself to the rules of the forum: double-posting or even any consecutive posting at all is disallowed. You can check the rest here. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0)

I think it's kind of disappointing to see you continually raging about. Did you forget that you agreed to the terms (regardless of how scummy they may or may not be)? Learn the lesson of reading before you sign. :)


Title: Re: bitcasino is a SCAM
Post by: silverlow11 on July 18, 2020, 02:38:13 PM
please sir provide me with some sites that does not required kyc...


Title: Re: bitcasino is a SCAM
Post by: actmyname on July 18, 2020, 03:03:08 PM
please sir provide me with some sites that does not required kyc...
The problem isn't really with finding the sites without KYC that you will inevitably encounter in your cryptocurrency use. Rather, the issue is that most of those sites are worse than certain well-known, unregulated sites, because of their novelty and their very easy exit scam potential. I took a look at Primedice, which I originally thought didn't require KYC, but as it turns out, their ToS includes that. I never had to do any, though, even though I've gone up to multiple thousands of dollars of volume on the site. If that's your forte, maybe.

I still recommend looking for the sites yourself, though. You know what you like better than I do, and I hope you'll stop complaining about KYC once you do start reading. :)


Title: Re: bitcasino is a SCAM
Post by: silverlow11 on July 18, 2020, 03:19:18 PM
please sir provide me with some sites that does not required kyc...
The problem isn't really with finding the sites without KYC that you will inevitably encounter in your cryptocurrency use. Rather, the issue is that most of those sites are worse than certain well-known, unregulated sites, because of their novelty and their very easy exit scam potential. I took a look at Primedice, which I originally thought didn't require KYC, but as it turns out, their ToS includes that. I never had to do any, though, even though I've gone up to multiple thousands of dollars of volume on the site. If that's your forte, maybe.

I still recommend looking for the sites yourself, though. You know what you like better than I do, and I hope you'll stop complaining about KYC once you do start reading. :)

why were u able to use primedice without verifying using kyc?

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I took a look at Primedice, which I originally thought didn't require KYC, but as it turns out, their ToS includes that.

and

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I never had to do any, though, even though I've gone up to multiple thousands of dollars of volume on the site.

contradiction no? how can both these be true


Title: Re: bitcasino is a SCAM
Post by: actmyname on July 18, 2020, 03:24:40 PM
why were u able to use primedice without verifying using kyc?

contradiction no? how can both these be true
I didn't hit the threshold, I guess. Some sites probably use KYC to ensure that a user is not exploiting anything in the case of a massive return. Maybe I didn't hit a high-enough multiplier on deposit, maybe it's because of net losses/wins not tipping some scale, and maybe it's because my account was active on the site for a long time. I'm not sure about the technicalities of KYC, which is the problem that I have with most casinos: a lack of transparency.


Title: Re: bitcasino is a SCAM
Post by: silverlow11 on July 18, 2020, 04:26:57 PM
why were u able to use primedice without verifying using kyc?

contradiction no? how can both these be true
I didn't hit the threshold, I guess. Some sites probably use KYC to ensure that a user is not exploiting anything in the case of a massive return. Maybe I didn't hit a high-enough multiplier on deposit, maybe it's because of net losses/wins not tipping some scale, and maybe it's because my account was active on the site for a long time. I'm not sure about the technicalities of KYC, which is the problem that I have with most casinos: a lack of transparency.

even on that site, once u hit a certain benchkark like u say then it becomes another kyc restricted sites. lol there really isnt any justice. in my opinion if all players refused to play on these unfair rules, maybe the casino owners would reconsider their policies to keep people playing on their sites...


Title: Re: bitcasino is a SCAM
Post by: Rotten Egg on July 18, 2020, 04:48:21 PM
What’s the issue with providing KYC, what are you hiding.

There must be 4 or 5 exchanges that have my full KYC, bank statements, selfie photo, home address, mobile number. I don’t understand your problem, if you need to provide KYC to withdraw funds then do it.

What are you talking about? You have done KYC at 5 exchanges or 50 is immaterial here. A service provider must clearly state beforehand whether they'll require KYC or not. If they need, then on what condition. And this must be clearly stated. If they are hiding it behind some long ToS to deny customer to withdraw their fund, then they are outright scamming and the community should call them out loud & open.


Title: Re: bitcasino is a SCAM
Post by: actmyname on July 18, 2020, 05:03:28 PM
even on that site, once u hit a certain benchkark like u say then it becomes another kyc restricted sites.
Sad reality. It's an unfortunate part of online gambling, especially in the crypto space. What a disappointing part of using a decentralized currency, right? Identity requirements, wow!

there really isnt any justice. in my opinion if all players refused to play on these unfair rules, maybe the casino owners would reconsider their policies to keep people playing on their sites...
That's an economical look. Most people, unfortunately, don't care. They get swindled into the KYC on a few sites and then probably say, "fuck it," and cross the line of entering KYC willy-nilly. I suppose it's rational once you've got your data leaked everywhere the first time, but if it never happened in the first place then the KYC situation would look a lot more differently.

The whole intent of the regulation is trite, too: most people who they are targeting simply have countermeasures.


Title: Re: bitcasino is a SCAM
Post by: Bitcoinsummoner on July 22, 2020, 07:47:22 PM
please sir provide me with some sites that does not required kyc...
I am using bitsler for a long time and till now it never asked me to provide kyc. I think if you cheat or try to cheat then any site may ask to verify your identity to prevent fraud. For  example if you use multiple account for various account then they may ask to provide kyc to verify that you are the unique user.