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Title: Tron's Justin Sun Offers $1 Million Bounty For Twitter Hackers
Post by: Hydrogen on July 18, 2020, 06:23:36 AM
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Justin Sun, founder of cryptocurrency Tron, revealed in an interview he will give $1 million to anyone who can identify the names behind the persons who hacked Twitter earlier Wednesday, July 15. Sun’s and Tron’s Twitter accounts were also compromised during the incident.

According to Cointelegraph, Sun said they were working closely with the social networking platform to resolve the issue. He also affirmed they were very vigilant in handling their accounts. Finally, Sun said the attack highlighted the need for decentralization and adoption of trustless software and services.

Sun’s Twitter account appeared to not have said a statement regarding the hack. However, the Twitter account of Bittorrent, his other company, requested followers to remain vigilant while the hack was ongoing.

The security breach at Twitter was the largest at the moment as hackers were able to take control of dozens of accounts, not only crypto companies, but also verified accounts of tech figures like Elon Musk and politicians like Barack Obama and Joe Biden.

All the compromised accounts were tweeting about a scam giveaway. It appears the scammers managed to rake in $118,567 in today’s Bitcoin prices.

Early investigation inside Twitter revealed the hack was a coordinated social engineering attack; hackers were able to successfully target Twitter employees with access to internal systems and tools.

This incident is corroborated by Vice Motherboard, whose sources revealed the hackers paid a Twitter insider to gain access to the company’s internal tool.

“We used a rep that literally done all the work for us,” the source told the publication. Screenshots of the internal tool were being deleted immediately by Twitter when someone posted them. Twitter claimed the image violates their TOS.

Twitter said they immediately locked down the affected account and limited the functionality of all verified accounts the moment they became aware of the incident. The social media platform added it took significant steps to limit access to its internal systems.

Senator Josh Hawley of Missouri wrote a letter to Twitter CEO and co-founder Jack Dorsey requesting for more information on the extent of the breach and whether or not President Donald Trump’s account was compromised. In a separate tweet, Dorsey said they will release more information once they find out more details on how the attack happened.

https://www.ibtimes.com/trons-justin-sun-offers-1-million-bounty-twitter-hackers-3012178


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Incidentally, offering bounties in exchange for information on criminal activities is the same policy the SEC (Securities Exchange Commission) uses.

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SEC Issues $3.8 Million Whistleblower Award

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
2020-155

Washington D.C., July 14, 2020 —

The Securities and Exchange Commission today announced a $3.8 million award to a whistleblower who provided significant information that helped the SEC disrupt an ongoing fraudulent scheme.  The resulting enforcement action returned millions of dollars to harmed investors.

“Today’s award underscores the paramount role the SEC’s whistleblower program plays in safeguarding the Main Street investor.  Since the beginning of the program nearly ten years ago, the SEC has ordered more than $2.5 billion in financial remedies based on whistleblower information, including more than $1.4 billion in disgorgement and prejudgment interest, of which almost $750 million has been returned or is scheduled to be returned to harmed investors,” said Jane Norberg, Chief of the SEC’s Office of the Whistleblower.

The SEC has awarded approximately $505 million to 87 individuals since issuing its first award in 2012.  This includes awards to 20 individuals in the last 10 months, totaling almost $119 million.  All payments are made out of an investor protection fund established by Congress that is financed entirely through monetary sanctions paid to the SEC by securities law violators.  No money has been taken or withheld from harmed investors to pay whistleblower awards.  Whistleblowers may be eligible for an award when they voluntarily provide the SEC with original, timely, and credible information that leads to a successful enforcement action.  Whistleblower awards can range from 10 percent to 30 percent of the money collected when the monetary sanctions exceed $1 million.

As set forth in the Dodd-Frank Act, the SEC protects the confidentiality of whistleblowers and does not disclose information that could reveal a whistleblower’s identity.

For more information about the whistleblower program and how to report a tip, visit SEC.gov/whistleblower.

https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2020-155



The SEC claims $750 million dollars was returned to harmed investors by their whistleblower bounty program since 2012.

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$750 million has been returned or is scheduled to be returned to harmed investors,” said Jane Norberg, Chief of the SEC’s Office of the Whistleblower.

Here's to hoping Justin Sun's bounty program is as successful.



Title: Re: Tron's Justin Sun Offers $1 Million Bounty For Twitter Hackers
Post by: hatshepsut93 on July 18, 2020, 06:41:41 AM
Justin Sun is still making his publicity stunts. And with this bounty being much bigger than the sum that was stolen, perhaps he is thinking that no one will come to claim it? After all, if there were multiple hackers, only one of them can snitch on the others to claim the bounty, and then it might still mean jail time for them. Plus there's a risk that Justin Sun won't uphold his word.

But I wonder if some chainanalysis company will somehow manage to track down the hackers, would Justin pay the bounty to them?


Title: Re: Tron's Justin Sun Offers $1 Million Bounty For Twitter Hackers
Post by: crwth on July 18, 2020, 06:44:57 AM
Something could happen within their organization if it's a group ever since this bounty has been announced. It's a large sum of money as well that could sway the opinions of different members if they have one. I hope Twitter would get this resolved ASAP and make sure that it wouldn't happen again.

Additional reference: https://cointelegraph.com/news/justin-sun-offers-1-million-bounty-in-exchange-for-twitter-hackers


Title: Re: Tron's Justin Sun Offers $1 Million Bounty For Twitter Hackers
Post by: Bttzed03 on July 18, 2020, 07:03:32 AM
Paying $1 million bounty for a social media account hack sounds desperate to me. It could be just another publicity stunt but it's also possible he must have done some (shady) deals thru twitter PM's and he's afraid hackers will reveal it soon. It would be interesting if the case is the latter.


Title: Re: Tron's Justin Sun Offers $1 Million Bounty For Twitter Hackers
Post by: Slow death on July 18, 2020, 07:51:56 AM
Paying $1 million bounty for a social media account hack sounds desperate to me.

The guy spends a lot of time on twitter and has become his favorite place to advertise his Altcoins, I believe that paying this amount should be worth it for him as he has a lot of money this will not harm him in any way

Justin Sun is still making his publicity stunts.

 ;D

It is truly unbelievable that this works and many altcoin creators decide to dispense with bitcointalk to dedicate themselves exclusively to twitter.

Plus there's a risk that Justin Sun won't uphold his word.

many news channels are talking about it, he will not want to go back with his word


Title: Re: Tron's Justin Sun Offers $1 Million Bounty For Twitter Hackers
Post by: TopTort777 on July 18, 2020, 07:57:19 AM
Paying $1 million bounty for a social media account hack sounds desperate to me. It could be just another publicity stunt.

He must be studying that kind of publicity stunts from John McAffee. He also like to give such unreal promises and predictions.

How I wish someone finds these hackers. Like to see what lies gonna Sun say. He did not mean $1 million or he was joking.


Title: Re: Tron's Justin Sun Offers $1 Million Bounty For Twitter Hackers
Post by: dothebeats on July 18, 2020, 08:13:50 AM
Another Justin Sun classic. He must have neen the apprentice of McAfee since this is also the way McAfee started before being one of the most hated personality in the crypto scene. Whilr I do not have any problems with Justin doing Justin things, I feel like he should leave these legal matters to the authorities. We get it, the dude has money, but it's obnoxious that he's offering it in exchange of the dox of the hackers before turning them over to the authorities.


Title: Re: Tron's Justin Sun Offers $1 Million Bounty For Twitter Hackers
Post by: hongchao123 on July 18, 2020, 08:34:12 AM
Finally normal rewards for bounty


Title: Re: Tron's Justin Sun Offers $1 Million Bounty For Twitter Hackers
Post by: kryptqnick on July 18, 2020, 08:54:56 AM
Paying $1 million bounty for a social media account hack sounds desperate to me. It could be just another publicity stunt but it's also possible he must have done some (shady) deals thru twitter PM's and he's afraid hackers will reveal it soon. It would be interesting if the case is the latter.
I think it's a nice gesture from Sun there. It's important to the community's reputation because many people who aren't into cryptos think it's an area of scammers and drug-dealers. By announcing a 1-million-dollar bounty, Sun is showing that the community is not thrilled about scam and tries to combat it.
Since scammers stole less than $120k, it might be that one of the hackers might decide to betray the rest of the team in exchange for 1 million dollars sent anonymously to this person. Otherwise, I don't know how the scammers can get caught because if they managed to pull off a hack nobody did before, they're good at what they do.


Title: Re: Tron's Justin Sun Offers $1 Million Bounty For Twitter Hackers
Post by: minairia3 on July 18, 2020, 08:58:43 AM
Finally normal rewards for bounty
Normal? This is Justin operates, mostly he announced some bounty worth millions just to save himself and shill also his reputation. I do hope that he will really award those bounty on those users will help to track those hackers. But mentioning the 1million USD is a bit shady, like how much he will pay actually for simple help tracking the hackers.

Another stunt again, probably trx  pumped right after the announcement. But lets not think so much negativity but make it as a good deeds maybe he just actually concern about the victims.


Title: Re: Tron's Justin Sun Offers $1 Million Bounty For Twitter Hackers
Post by: DoubleEdgeEX on July 18, 2020, 09:02:10 AM
Look who came out of his wormhole to try to steal something of the publicity - Justin Sunofabitch. TikTok just recently, now Twitter. Did he already used Covid for some marketing stunts? Maybe he could make a pic with a black person and scream around that Tron supports the BLM movement. He is a bane for this industry.


Title: Re: Tron's Justin Sun Offers $1 Million Bounty For Twitter Hackers
Post by: LogitechMouse on July 18, 2020, 09:29:57 AM
This move by him has a double purpose in my opinion.

This is beneficial for those who will participate in the bounty as they can get a reward if they "CAN" give the list of hackers that hacked multiple popular people's twitter accounts in a single day and at the same time, beneficial for him as he will gain more publicity and this will lead him to more publicity with his shitcoin TRX and other coins.

Well, just good luck to this bounty and I hope that this will be a successful one. That they can trace those hackers who hack his account.


Title: Re: Tron's Justin Sun Offers $1 Million Bounty For Twitter Hackers
Post by: Russlenat on July 18, 2020, 09:33:03 AM
This move by him has a double purpose in my opinion.

This is beneficial for those who will participate in the bounty as they can get a reward if they "CAN" give the list of hackers that hacked multiple popular people's twitter accounts in a single day and at the same time, beneficial for him as he will gain more publicity and this will lead him to more publicity with his shitcoin TRX and other coins.

Well, just good luck to this bounty and I hope that this will be a successful one. That they can trace those hackers who hack his account.

Regardless of the purpose, at least he is making a drive to help find the hackers, $1 is just peanuts and we know he is a businessman who are good in hyping the project, so it would also be beneficial to the TRON project, just like an advertisement that could potentially give a positive result in the long run.


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Well, just good luck to this bounty and I hope that this will be a successful one. That they can trace those hackers who hack his account.

Good luck.. finding the hacker is not easy, most of the hacks in the past, until now it's still unresolved.


Title: Re: Tron's Justin Sun Offers $1 Million Bounty For Twitter Hackers
Post by: verita1 on July 18, 2020, 09:47:55 AM
Publicity or not by Justin Sun I think it is a correct and timely action on his part. Scammers are using Twitter to trick people and promise to give Bitcoin and it's time to take action. I think Justin will pay the reward, I want to know the full story of how the hackers acted and that they receive their punishment.


Title: Re: Tron's Justin Sun Offers $1 Million Bounty For Twitter Hackers
Post by: Lucius on July 18, 2020, 10:15:37 AM
Twitter hacking is not a child's play, so I believe that the person or those behind it are not prey that can be easily caught, and that they have protected themselves well. Justin just uses this situation for a little promotion, and if he really wants to help let him donate that amount to Twitter and their security service to patch up all the security holes in their system.

Maybe Justin just challenged the hackers to show what else they know., I wouldn't be surprised if they decide to remove him from the Trone because of this move ::)


Title: Re: Tron's Justin Sun Offers $1 Million Bounty For Twitter Hackers
Post by: smyslov on July 18, 2020, 10:27:12 AM
It's good that Justin Sun offer this kind of huge rewards, but isn't it Twitter management should offer rewards to find and get these hackers, it's their site anyway, Justin Sun instead of spending money why not hire people who will create a twitter based like a site for the community, and do not engage to this kind of gimmick.


Title: Re: Tron's Justin Sun Offers $1 Million Bounty For Twitter Hackers
Post by: levyashin on July 18, 2020, 10:33:01 AM
Justin Sun just trying to take spotlights, his offer seems fake.

Besides that, i think twitter hackers could get more money with a better method. They had a huge advantage but they didn't use it very well.


Title: Re: Tron's Justin Sun Offers $1 Million Bounty For Twitter Hackers
Post by: Sebas.tian on July 18, 2020, 10:36:15 AM
Paying $1 million bounty for a social media account hack sounds desperate to me.
Possibly that's a cool one for anyone who can bring onboard the hackers information. Sentiment aside, I don't see this as desperate because the $1m doesn't amount to what the hackers gain access to (individual personal data and cooperations, including former US President).
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It could be just another publicity stunt but it's also possible he must have done some (shady) deals thru twitter PM's and he's afraid hackers will reveal it soon. It would be interesting if the case is the latter.
We'll know Justin Sun to be a smart business man, maybe he's doing something we don't can't think of. Although, for publicity that will be a good one for his community.


Title: Re: Tron's Justin Sun Offers $1 Million Bounty For Twitter Hackers
Post by: davis196 on July 18, 2020, 11:01:10 AM
Paying $1 million bounty for a social media account hack sounds desperate to me. It could be just another publicity stunt but it's also possible he must have done some (shady) deals thru twitter PM's and he's afraid hackers will reveal it soon. It would be interesting if the case is the latter.

This isn't desperate,this is just PR and marketing.For some reason,Justin Sun always wants to be a center of attention,on the spotlight.The Twitter accounts of people,who are way more popular than him got hacked too,but I don't see Elon Musk or Barack Obama offering a 1 million dollar bounty for revealing the hacker.
Preaching that decentralized social media will solve the hacking and security problems is weird(it's more weird ,when it comes from the guy,who conquered Steem and made the Steem community run away and create their own platform-Hive).
If decentralized social media is such an awesome idea,then why I don't see any successful example of a thriving decentralized social media platform?


Title: Re: Tron's Justin Sun Offers $1 Million Bounty For Twitter Hackers
Post by: cheezcarls on July 18, 2020, 11:02:21 AM
As much as I respect Justin Sun even if a lot hates him, I honestly think that spending $1 million to reveal the hackers isn’t just right, especially in this crisis. If I were in his shoes, I would rather spend $1 million for charity purposes during this pandemic. In that way, I would respect him even more despite meeting him a few times in person last year in Hongkong and Taiwan.

This is Twitter’s fault, and they were being highly accountable for this matter. $1 million bounty to hunt these hackers won’t be enough to regain his reputation. I would rather see him donate that $1 million to help fight COVID-19 pandemic.


Title: Re: Tron's Justin Sun Offers $1 Million Bounty For Twitter Hackers
Post by: Yaunfitda on July 18, 2020, 11:04:59 AM
Justin Sun is still making his publicity stunts. And with this bounty being much bigger than the sum that was stolen, perhaps he is thinking that no one will come to claim it? After all, if there were multiple hackers, only one of them can snitch on the others to claim the bounty, and then it might still mean jail time for them. Plus there's a risk that Justin Sun won't uphold his word.

But I wonder if some chainanalysis company will somehow manage to track down the hackers, would Justin pay the bounty to them?
We all know that Justin will jump on every opportunity to get any publicity, after all he was given the title shill god. It's good to hear that he is offering the bounty, and I'm sure bounty hunters will be hunt on the tail for this hackers. If he is true to his words then he should pay them. So this will be a cat and mouse game, hackers using tumbling services or even privacy coins like monero to hide their foot prints.


Title: Re: Tron's Justin Sun Offers $1 Million Bounty For Twitter Hackers
Post by: Jating on July 18, 2020, 11:37:13 AM
Another Justin Sun classic. He must have neen the apprentice of McAfee since this is also the way McAfee started before being one of the most hated personality in the crypto scene. Whilr I do not have any problems with Justin doing Justin things, I feel like he should leave these legal matters to the authorities. We get it, the dude has money, but it's obnoxious that he's offering it in exchange of the dox of the hackers before turning them over to the authorities.

Speaking of John Mcafee, this will be the anniversary when he said that he is going to eat his manhood if bitcoin didn't go to $500K in 2020.

Regarding Justin, I agree that this is classic move from him, he really knows when to ride on a hype and make a noise about it. For me this is nothing but just publicity stunt, he has a history of doing this and the timing about his supposedly TRON 4.0 released is perfect.


Title: Re: Tron's Justin Sun Offers $1 Million Bounty For Twitter Hackers
Post by: eaLiTy on July 18, 2020, 12:45:51 PM
Regarding Justin, I agree that this is classic move from him, he really knows when to ride on a hype and make a noise about it. For me this is nothing but just publicity stunt, he has a history of doing this and the timing about his supposedly TRON 4.0 released is perfect.
It is exactly what is happening, he does know how to market himself even when the chips are down and he is the only person among prominent people who lost their account during this hack and Justin is the only person who came out with a million dollar bounty ;D. I would really like to see these hackers getting caught and i want to see whether Justin Sun is going to follow up with his offer and pay the million dollars :D. Slick marketing at its best and thereby promoting his coin along with it.


Title: Re: Tron's Justin Sun Offers $1 Million Bounty For Twitter Hackers
Post by: SquallLeonhart on July 18, 2020, 01:52:51 PM
We can’t tell what his intentions are for offering such an amount of bounty, and I hope that he fulfills it if someone should come up with a very information that will lead to apprehending those hackers. Just like someone said here, if a chain analysis company should trace those hackers and come up with reasonable information, is he really going to give that money to them? He better do.

Furthermore, these hackers deserves to pay for their crimes, because it’s becoming something else that’s trying to lay a bad name for cryptocurrency. They need to be disciplined and set as an example for those that will try to thread that same part.


Title: Re: Tron's Justin Sun Offers $1 Million Bounty For Twitter Hackers
Post by: maydna on July 18, 2020, 02:05:52 PM
If I were in his shoes, I would rather spend $1 million for charity purposes during this pandemic. In that way, I would respect him even more despite meeting him a few times in person last year in Hongkong and Taiwan.

More people will respect his decision if he donates his money for charity purposes, especially we are still in the Covid-19. He will get more appreciation from the public, and he can also introduce about bitcoin because many people will know and search about him. When people see that he is one of many people behind the crypto world, people will gain enthusiasm to search for more info, and who knows, he can be a trendsetter in the crypto world. We don't know what his reason to do that because I think it is hard to reveal the hackers.


Title: Re: Tron's Justin Sun Offers $1 Million Bounty For Twitter Hackers
Post by: stiffbud on July 18, 2020, 02:13:05 PM
If I were in his shoes, I would rather spend $1 million for charity purposes during this pandemic. In that way, I would respect him even more despite meeting him a few times in person last year in Hongkong and Taiwan.

More people will respect his decision if he donates his money for charity purposes, especially we are still in the Covid-19. He will get more appreciation from the public, and he can also introduce about bitcoin because many people will know and search about him. When people see that he is one of many people behind the crypto world, people will gain enthusiasm to search for more info, and who knows, he can be a trendsetter in the crypto world. We don't know what his reason to do that because I think it is hard to reveal the hackers.
He shouldn't get involved in this matter I guess as witter will look into it and also will be having all the IP logs and other data on them, so Twitter will already be looking into those hackers. This bounty will probably won't go to someone. Moreover Charity sounds right way to help other people with this huge amount of money because the loss that incurred due to hackers isn't that big if you compare it with other data hacks and other scams in the past and Twitter is already having resources to find them on their own.


Title: Re: Tron's Justin Sun Offers $1 Million Bounty For Twitter Hackers
Post by: coolcoinz on July 18, 2020, 02:23:25 PM
First thing that comes to my mind after reading it is: Justin must be really loaded from all those victims or as they call them "investors" if he's able to buy a dinner with Waren and later throw away a million dollars just like that. If you guys own Tron you should be asking when exit.

Finally normal rewards for bounty

All those beggars from the altcoin section are now looking for those hackers.


Title: Re: Tron's Justin Sun Offers $1 Million Bounty For Twitter Hackers
Post by: stomachgrowls on July 18, 2020, 02:29:56 PM
We can’t tell what his intentions are for offering such an amount of bounty, and I hope that he fulfills it if someone should come up with a very information that will lead to apprehending those hackers. Just like someone said here, if a chain analysis company should trace those hackers and come up with reasonable information, is he really going to give that money to them? He better do.

Furthermore, these hackers deserves to pay for their crimes, because it’s becoming something else that’s trying to lay a bad name for cryptocurrency. They need to be disciplined and set as an example for those that will try to thread that same part.

We do like for it to happen but knowing that this market is anonymous and having that irreversible transaction then its really  hard for it to be imply.When in talks of Sun's motive then we cant blame out the community
on having those kind of perceptions since we do already have the idea on how he do involved into things just to make some exposure or intention on shilling up his reputation.

$1M bounty is just really a penny for him and he do knows that such bounty is some part of marketing.We dont know if his really that willing or honestly trying to be good here but i do have the same impressions
that this might be an another show up.



Title: Re: Tron's Justin Sun Offers $1 Million Bounty For Twitter Hackers
Post by: alani123 on July 18, 2020, 02:34:51 PM
I bet that whoever managed to hack so many accounts probably has thought it through about what steps to take so they can't get caught.
My theory of what most likely happened is that these accounts had a common breaking point. Perhaps some authenticated application with permissions to post from something like a marketing firm.

Twitter is the one that should look into such security issues other than a crypto CEO that was affected by the hack. Honestly, that money is never going to get to the hands of anyone because the hackers probably know how to remain anonymous. It's just a publicity stunt as others have said.


Title: Re: Tron's Justin Sun Offers $1 Million Bounty For Twitter Hackers
Post by: bittraffic on July 18, 2020, 02:58:03 PM

Still the marketing stunts after his TRON 4 hype failed. The price of TRON didn't lift a finger when they launch it but seem like he is not yet done hyping.

First thing that comes to my mind after reading it is: Justin must be really loaded from all those victims or as they call them "investors" if he's able to buy a dinner with Waren and later throw away a million dollars just like that. If you guys own Tron you should be asking when exit.

Finally normal rewards for bounty

All those beggars from the altcoin section are now looking for those hackers.

True. It will not go up until Justin keeps milking his investors while he gets to unlock the Bilions TRX all available to dump while hte price already hit rock bottom. This is why I also sold to ease my mind by investing it to a safer token.



Title: Re: Tron's Justin Sun Offers $1 Million Bounty For Twitter Hackers
Post by: Shasha80 on July 18, 2020, 02:58:12 PM
Seeing the character of Justin Sun who likes to make publicity stunts, I'm not sure about the bounty for Twitter hackers that he said.
If it turns out there is a successful claims reward, there is no guarantee Justin Sun will pay $ 1 Million. Because the $ 1 Million
reward amount is too large, it looks unrealistic. ;D


Title: Re: Tron's Justin Sun Offers $1 Million Bounty For Twitter Hackers
Post by: Zackgeno96 on July 18, 2020, 03:21:52 PM
Seeing the character of Justin Sun who likes to make publicity stunts, I'm not sure about the bounty for Twitter hackers that he said.
If it turns out there is a successful claims reward, there is no guarantee Justin Sun will pay $ 1 Million. Because the $ 1 Million
reward amount is too large, it looks unrealistic. ;D
Haha, exactly! $1 million for the scam of $100k I guess the hacker might give away his location in order to claim this bounty as well!!! ;D ;D
This isn't more than a publicity stunt, everyone knows that no one is going to do a thing for this much amount of money that was scammed and Twitter will most probably do a patch from which the hackers were able to get control of these verified accounts. So its a pretty good marketing strategy to announce a $1 Million bounty for information on the hackers.


Title: Re: Tron's Justin Sun Offers $1 Million Bounty For Twitter Hackers
Post by: seoincorporation on July 18, 2020, 03:52:57 PM
I feel like this is a bait for the hackers to come to the light. If they try to claim that bounty then people will know who they are, and they will not be able to just walk away as nothing happens after what they did.

The Bounty is som serious money, but the hackers are not that stupid to sho their faces now.


Title: Re: Tron's Justin Sun Offers $1 Million Bounty For Twitter Hackers
Post by: meanwords on July 19, 2020, 03:34:13 AM
I feel like this is a bait for the hackers to come to the light. If they try to claim that bounty then people will know who they are, and they will not be able to just walk away as nothing happens after what they did.

The Bounty is som serious money, but the hackers are not that stupid to sho their faces now.

Those hackers might not snitch each other but it time, they'll get caught anyway. This bounty just made the process faster. I bet the authorities or some agency are backtracking the wallet to see where it is created or if there was any transactions or movements before the hacking.

It will be pretty interesting though to see if Justin Sun will really give the reward (let's say some person that the hackers trust snitch them just to get the reward).


Title: Re: Tron's Justin Sun Offers $1 Million Bounty For Twitter Hackers
Post by: Kelvinid on July 19, 2020, 03:48:44 AM
The hunt continuous and hope this offer could help to find those WHO actually did the hacking and not by those who claim that THEY ARE. Things might uneasy to find those people and for sure they don't show up even though of these big offerings. It for sure a lot of big names and businessmen twitter accounts have been compromised, maybe some of them are just kept in silence knowing that they have less chance to trace who made this.

I really appreciate how Justin Sun offers and so the SEC for this case. What they do is not only for their benefits and to know publicly but they are trying to show sympathy. That was caring, though.


Title: Re: Tron's Justin Sun Offers $1 Million Bounty For Twitter Hackers
Post by: Bitstar_coin on July 19, 2020, 03:54:32 AM
Regarding Justin, I agree that this is classic move from him, he really knows when to ride on a hype and make a noise about it. For me this is nothing but just publicity stunt, he has a history of doing this and the timing about his supposedly TRON 4.0 released is perfect.
It is exactly what is happening, he does know how to market himself even when the chips are down and he is the only person among prominent people who lost their account during this hack and Justin is the only person who came out with a million dollar bounty ;D. I would really like to see these hackers getting caught and i want to see whether Justin Sun is going to follow up with his offer and pay the million dollars :D. Slick marketing at its best and thereby promoting his coin along with it.

Crypto is all about hype and creating attention, and justin sun knows how to utilise this important features,  as one of the influential people whose account got hacked it is normal for him to make the offer since nobody else would, maybe he has more vital information in his DMs than the rest or just curious how such attack was successfully carried out,
Justin Sun is worth more than a million dollar, was he not willing to pay $4.5million for a dinner with Warren Buffet! If he was willing to go through with that am sure this won't be an issue to him, not that I fancy him but he knows when to make a move and market his product which is a priority for him.


Title: Re: Tron's Justin Sun Offers $1 Million Bounty For Twitter Hackers
Post by: btc_angela on July 19, 2020, 08:35:11 AM
Seeing the character of Justin Sun who likes to make publicity stunts, I'm not sure about the bounty for Twitter hackers that he said.
If it turns out there is a successful claims reward, there is no guarantee Justin Sun will pay $ 1 Million. Because the $ 1 Million
reward amount is too large, it looks unrealistic. ;D

Justin Sun has all the money, if I remember correctly, he paid $4 million to a charity fund just to be able to have lunch with Warren Buffett. So he can back it up, but everyone is questioning his intention here. Is he truly wanted to catch the scammers or hackers even if he knows that it will be difficult task so he jump in again to look like the hero that will save the day or just wanted to ride on the news again just what he did many times?


Title: Re: Tron's Justin Sun Offers $1 Million Bounty For Twitter Hackers
Post by: sunsilk on July 19, 2020, 10:17:18 AM
I'd like to see those hackers to be responsible with the trouble that they've done. And this is another case that Justin Sun has brought up to his attention which can be another highlight for him. Well, I'll think positively for those hunters that will catch the hackers and hopefully the bounty will be distributed to them.

But as we know the moves of Justin, it's always for the show and attention.


Title: Re: Tron's Justin Sun Offers $1 Million Bounty For Twitter Hackers
Post by: pooya87 on July 20, 2020, 04:39:14 AM
the Tron dude is just trying to make his name heard in the news again so that he can gain some popularity. there is basically no difference between what he did and what McAfee did 3  years ago with his whole penis eating bet that expired a couple of days ago, that was also done to gain popularity.
even though $1 million is nothing for someone who has scammed a lot more out of newbies with his shitcoin but i would only believe it if he put the funds in escrow :D


Title: Re: Tron's Justin Sun Offers $1 Million Bounty For Twitter Hackers
Post by: Bitcoin_bullish on July 20, 2020, 05:55:19 AM
Did he care to offer a similar bounty for the three year long youtube scam giveaways? Many Youtubers suffered because of this after losing their accounts for months and many fell victims to it. Accounts get hacked, defaced, and lost credibility promoting scam giveaways without youtube doing much to stop this. A network of tens of thousands of zombie accounts is in the hands of hackers. The tweeter hack was a one-time event that was significant as accounts with millions of followers were hacked, still, it was over after an hour or so.

This bounty is just another publicity stunt by Justin to keep Tron relevant especially after missing the DeFi bubble. It is obvious Tron is centralized around the entity of Justin Sun who is running it as a business and not a cryptocurrency aiming for decentralization. As far as I'm concerned, Tron looks like an overextended dot-com company before the collapse.


Title: Re: Tron's Justin Sun Offers $1 Million Bounty For Twitter Hackers
Post by: rodskee on July 20, 2020, 06:05:46 AM
I'd like to see those hackers to be responsible with the trouble that they've done. And this is another case that Justin Sun has brought up to his attention which can be another highlight for him. Well, I'll think positively for those hunters that will catch the hackers and hopefully the bounty will be distributed to them.

But as we know the moves of Justin, it's always for the show and attention.

Making such move to generate attention, a common attitude by this developer
riding with the trend while it's still hot.
Though it's also a good sign in case there are hunters that will take into action
and track those hackers.
Once there's a good result, the hackers needs to answer implemented laws and
be punished.
While in the good side, the rewards should be distributed in case the hackers has
been caught both rewards and punishments should also be broadcasted


Title: Re: Tron's Justin Sun Offers $1 Million Bounty For Twitter Hackers
Post by: sunsilk on July 20, 2020, 05:13:23 PM
I'd like to see those hackers to be responsible with the trouble that they've done. And this is another case that Justin Sun has brought up to his attention which can be another highlight for him. Well, I'll think positively for those hunters that will catch the hackers and hopefully the bounty will be distributed to them.

But as we know the moves of Justin, it's always for the show and attention.

Making such move to generate attention, a common attitude by this developer
riding with the trend while it's still hot.
Though it's also a good sign in case there are hunters that will take into action
and track those hackers.
Once there's a good result, the hackers needs to answer implemented laws and
be punished.
While in the good side, the rewards should be distributed in case the hackers has
been caught both rewards and punishments should also be broadcasted
He's always like that. As long as he can excel with such news, he will ride along with them because it's the best exposure that he can get. I'm sure that Twitter is doing their job to track those hackers in the best that they can.

I'll wait until they have tracked down the hacker/s. They will surely be accountable for what they have done and caused a lot of people to fall for that scam.


Title: Re: Tron's Justin Sun Offers $1 Million Bounty For Twitter Hackers
Post by: rexxarofmoknathal on July 20, 2020, 05:49:08 PM
Yup, the bounty is real and the bounty is Big. So with just those few words I'm almost certain that the hacker will be caught and brought before light. Nobody would pass on such a generous bounty. I expect there'll be many false claims just to acquire the money but then that in itself is another issue altogether.


Title: Re: Tron's Justin Sun Offers $1 Million Bounty For Twitter Hackers
Post by: Etsu on July 20, 2020, 10:05:09 PM
I really like justin and his projects but pulling up $1m bounty to get twitter hackers seems like publicity stunts to me but then again, history shows justin is always against hack activities as he once tried to offer cz_binance some funds to increase liquidity during binance hack which cz delimed. So it might be just in his nature to always advocates againt fraud


Title: Re: Tron's Justin Sun Offers $1 Million Bounty For Twitter Hackers
Post by: Yamifoud on July 20, 2020, 10:49:05 PM
I really like justin and his projects but pulling up $1m bounty to get twitter hackers seems like publicity stunts to me but then again, history shows justin is always against hack activities as he once tried to offer cz_binance some funds to increase liquidity during binance hack which cz delimed. So it might be just in his nature to always advocates againt fraud
I'm not sure how serious is Justin to reward someone could tell him whose in charge with this hacking incident. And I believe that only a few had known about Justin behavior and that only we caught attention to make people's eyed on him.

What exactly his doing now is to promote himself again. Hes making his name to look more attractive and that bounty offering will surely catch attention publicly. I really appreciate what he does but it turns me off if this is the only way to get attention. The authorities are tracking whos behind this hacking scenario, may Justin will give it to them once they know.


Title: Re: Tron's Justin Sun Offers $1 Million Bounty For Twitter Hackers
Post by: erikoy on July 20, 2020, 11:05:21 PM
What exactly his doing now is to promote himself again. Hes making his name to look more attractive and that bounty offering will surely catch attention publicly. I really appreciate what he does but it turns me off if this is the only way to get attention. The authorities are tracking whos behind this hacking scenario, may Justin will give it to them once they know.
You mean a publicity right. Well in this case it might be true that Justin Sun would truly give a reward to those who can give information about the hacker. It is very hard though to detect because hackers now are aware and being cautious in their action. What important here is to retreive those account that has been hacked and I guess twitter technical services could reset it for them though it may be a hard and long job to all hack accounts at least it will return. And also it might add up a lesson to learn in this issue regarding hack accounts.


Title: Re: Tron's Justin Sun Offers $1 Million Bounty For Twitter Hackers
Post by: Inkdatar on July 20, 2020, 11:12:37 PM
Yup, the bounty is real and the bounty is Big. So with just those few words I'm almost certain that the hacker will be caught and brought before light. Nobody would pass on such a generous bounty. I expect there'll be many false claims just to acquire the money but then that in itself is another issue altogether.
I read this news in twitter that not only Justin Sun hacks his twitter also some other big accounts. Yes, big rewards who can catch those hackers as Justin is also well known to the crypto industry. We observe how he promote his project using his twitter acct which is very important to him. Publicly this makes noise to people an added attention to Twitter users.


Title: Re: Tron's Justin Sun Offers $1 Million Bounty For Twitter Hackers
Post by: Vital_Z on July 21, 2020, 10:49:43 AM
The security breach at Twitter was the largest at the moment as hackers were able to take control of dozens of accounts, not only crypto companies, but also verified accounts of tech figures like Elon Musk and politicians like Barack Obama and Joe Biden. All the compromised accounts were tweeting about a scam giveaway. It appears the scammers managed to rake in $118,567 in today’s Bitcoin prices. Early investigation inside Twitter revealed the hack was a coordinated social engineering attack.


Title: Re: Tron's Justin Sun Offers $1 Million Bounty For Twitter Hackers
Post by: arwin100 on July 21, 2020, 10:50:09 AM
Yup, the bounty is real and the bounty is Big. So with just those few words I'm almost certain that the hacker will be caught and brought before light. Nobody would pass on such a generous bounty. I expect there'll be many false claims just to acquire the money but then that in itself is another issue altogether.
I read this news in twitter that not only Justin Sun hacks his twitter also some other big accounts. Yes, big rewards who can catch those hackers as Justin is also well known to the crypto industry. We observe how he promote his project using his twitter acct which is very important to him. Publicly this makes noise to people an added attention to Twitter users.
But the problem is, there is someone who can locate or find out who the person/persons or even organization that hacked twitter accounts of those big names. For sure they are really intelligent and skillful ones so they leave no trace which means that it will be a hard for those people who wants to find out behind these twitter attacks.

I'm sure the hacker is not dumb to leave a footsteps of their actions, so provably there's no one can trace those hacker since as per history no hacker has  been found especially in crypto who cause damage to the public. I really had a feeling that tron use this event as simple marketing since they can get an attention by placing a  bounty for impossible trace out of those hackers.


Title: Re: Tron's Justin Sun Offers $1 Million Bounty For Twitter Hackers
Post by: bryant.coleman on July 21, 2020, 10:55:17 AM
4 months back, some of the criminals tried a similar scam. I immediately posted about it in the Scam Accusations sub-forum. You can find the thread here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5234450.msg54070831

Back then, they failed to hack the twitter account. What they did was that a fake Twitter account was created with the same DP and background and then they made scam posts using that account below the tweets from the real account. Back then also, they had targeted the Twitter profile of Elon Musk.

An example is here:


Note the fake tweet (made by @elonmmusk) and the real tweet (@elonmusk).

A lot of users got fooled because if you are not paying attention, then you may not be able to differentiate between @elonmmusk and @elonmusk. And note that the fake tweet received more than a thousand likes and retweets within a few hours.


Title: Re: Tron's Justin Sun Offers $1 Million Bounty For Twitter Hackers
Post by: NotATether on July 21, 2020, 11:02:10 AM
Guys, I know there's a facade in this thread of Justin Sun just doing this for publicity and all that, but think about it, who wouldn't relish at the thought of earning a million dollars just by tracking someone down? Most likely it's going to be split among a group of people because cases like these require a team effort.

As much as I respect Justin Sun even if a lot hates him, I honestly think that spending $1 million to reveal the hackers isn’t just right, especially in this crisis. If I were in his shoes, I would rather spend $1 million for charity purposes during this pandemic.

But this action he's doing will help bring justice to the hackers who made off with more than $100K. He's throwing 10x more money to get them caught which is another example of legal activities, doing detective work for a bounty in this case, earns you a lot more money than illegal activities, scamming in this case.


Title: Re: Tron's Justin Sun Offers $1 Million Bounty For Twitter Hackers
Post by: MCobian on July 21, 2020, 11:11:25 AM
Very interesting there will be many people who try to catch up these hackers, in order to get the $ 1 million bounty offered by Justin.
Somehow my hunch says that Justin Sun will break a promise related to the $ 1 million bounty, maybe Justin will have many of reasons for
not paying if true twitter hackers are found. I also don't really want to think negatively towards Justin, therefore we better all wait for the
latest news updates about this. Hopefully my guess is wrong and Justin really paid bounty hunters who managed to find the twitter hackers.


Title: Re: Tron's Justin Sun Offers $1 Million Bounty For Twitter Hackers
Post by: AmoreJaz on July 21, 2020, 11:14:47 AM
Twitter hacking is not a child's play, so I believe that the person or those behind it are not prey that can be easily caught, and that they have protected themselves well. Justin just uses this situation for a little promotion, and if he really wants to help let him donate that amount to Twitter and their security service to patch up all the security holes in their system.

Maybe Justin just challenged the hackers to show what else they know., I wouldn't be surprised if they decide to remove him from the Trone because of this move ::)


But $1 Million Bounty isn't a joke either. For this money some good professionals may think of involving themselves in the game. I wouldn't be surprised if a member of the hacker team handed over his fellows for this amount. :) That's how it works with police bounties anyway.

just a matter of time when will these hackers be exposed. and knowing, justin sun - maybe another stunt to promote himself and his project and again attract media attention. wonder if he will really do give that reward if someone will trace these hackers, if they ever will??? if you are a true blooded  hacker, you should know how to cover your tracks. if not i dont think you can be called a hacker!


Title: Re: Tron's Justin Sun Offers $1 Million Bounty For Twitter Hackers
Post by: Sendoku on July 21, 2020, 05:26:11 PM
Didn't see McAfee eating his dong - won't see Sun giving away $1 mil. These are guys from the same tear to me


Title: Re: Tron's Justin Sun Offers $1 Million Bounty For Twitter Hackers
Post by: TopTort777 on July 21, 2020, 07:57:23 PM
Kudos to Justin Sun, This is indeed a way to tell the whole world that the crypto community dosen't promote and support frauds since a lot of people have the perceived idea that bitcoin is majorly used for illegal transactions. With a bounty of $1m, I'm sure more than enough people will be willing to rat out the hackers! More wisdom to justin sun

How much does this twitter hackers stole? Or I should say, received from people seeking for quick and easy money.
I’ve heard that around $200k. It doesnt matter, anyway they got less than $1m. Hacker could surrender to Sun. get $1m, but lose these “around $200k”, share how he hacked and possibly  get a position of one of security engineers.

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/022/138/highresrollsafe.jpg


Title: Re: Tron's Justin Sun Offers $1 Million Bounty For Twitter Hackers
Post by: dunfida on July 21, 2020, 07:59:26 PM
Kudos to Justin Sun, This is indeed a way to tell the whole world that the crypto community dosen't promote and support frauds since a lot of people have the perceived idea that bitcoin is majorly used for illegal transactions. With a bounty of $1m, I'm sure more than enough people will be willing to rat out the hackers! More wisdom to justin sun

How much does this twitter hackers stole? Or I should say, received from people seeking for quick and easy money.
I’ve heard that around $200k. It doesnt matter, anyway they got less than $1m. Hacker could surrender to Sun. get $1m, but lose these “around $200k”, share how he hacked and possibly  get a position of one of security engineers.

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/022/138/highresrollsafe.jpg

Yeah, you can be smart on taking such step as a hacker but you do really believe that they are that fool enough to surrender?  ;D
You would face up charges on breaching out big companies twitter accounts plus the fraud or scam that you've been scattering. In legal manner
then that 800k bounty of yours might not really be enough for you to bail out. hehe


Title: Re: Tron's Justin Sun Offers $1 Million Bounty For Twitter Hackers
Post by: ene1980 on July 21, 2020, 10:05:25 PM
Guys, I know there's a facade in this thread of Justin Sun just doing this for publicity and all that, but think about it, who wouldn't relish at the thought of earning a million dollars just by tracking someone down? Most likely it's going to be split among a group of people because cases like these require a team effort.
Not necessary to have a huge team, anyone who is having the knowledge about the hack and we know how it all transpired and how the media pinpointed it to a kid in the UK but he knew about all this from a discord channel and the hack happened because of the bad security practices of twitter as they were lousy in dealing with sensitive tools and when the back end tool is leaked you get these kind of situations.

 It is better to sue twitter by the people who lost money because of this mishap.


Title: Re: Tron's Justin Sun Offers $1 Million Bounty For Twitter Hackers
Post by: Betwrong on July 22, 2020, 02:28:22 PM
Twitter hacking is not a child's play, so I believe that the person or those behind it are not prey that can be easily caught, and that they have protected themselves well. Justin just uses this situation for a little promotion, and if he really wants to help let him donate that amount to Twitter and their security service to patch up all the security holes in their system.

Maybe Justin just challenged the hackers to show what else they know., I wouldn't be surprised if they decide to remove him from the Trone because of this move ::)


But $1 Million Bounty isn't a joke either. For this money some good professionals may think of involving themselves in the game. I wouldn't be surprised if a member of the hacker team handed over his fellows for this amount. :) That's how it works with police bounties anyway.

just a matter of time when will these hackers be exposed. and knowing, justin sun - maybe another stunt to promote himself and his project and again attract media attention. wonder if he will really do give that reward if someone will trace these hackers, if they ever will??? if you are a true blooded  hacker, you should know how to cover your tracks. if not i dont think you can be called a hacker!

When there is a good bounty placed on someone's head, there's normally no need in tracing the criminal. Someone hiding together with him will give over to the police the needed info in exchange for the money. Criminals, living in Peter Pan's world, think their buddies will never do that, but they are wrong, as history shows.


Title: Re: Tron's Justin Sun Offers $1 Million Bounty For Twitter Hackers
Post by: nelson4lov on July 22, 2020, 02:51:18 PM
How much does this twitter hackers stole? Or I should say, received from people seeking for quick and easy money.
I’ve heard that around $200k. It doesnt matter, anyway they got less than $1m. Hacker could surrender to Sun. get $1m, but lose these “around $200k”, share how he hacked and possibly  get a position of one of security engineers.

I don't really see why Justin sun is offering such enormous amount. He thinks this is yet is another opportunity to make publicity stunts and get in the news.  The money being offered ($1M) is at least 4 times bigger than the amount that was stolen which doesn't make much sense considering the fact that his account and that of Tronix weren't the only one who were affected during the attack. I wouldn't be too surprised if someone shows up to claim the bounty.




Title: Re: Tron's Justin Sun Offers $1 Million Bounty For Twitter Hackers
Post by: davinchi on July 22, 2020, 04:50:45 PM
I just suspect about insider information. In some wild guessing how it has become possible for hackers to target high level of people all at once?

There only few possibilities for hacking any account of any services:
1. By resetting password. If celebrities DOB/mothers' 1st name/ fav movie/born city kind of information are available and a services is allowing to reset password by checking these information.

2. By clicking a phishing link.
3. By hacking devices and by installing key-loggers.

I just wonder how those hackers managed to do one of these things successfully.

If hacker hacked only one celebrity's account and then attempted to exploit those BTC doubling things then that is a different case.

When MULTIPLE top level people's account were targeted AT ONE SINGLE TIME means that is somehow leading to assume about the involvement of one or group of employees of twitter corp.


Title: Re: Tron's Justin Sun Offers $1 Million Bounty For Twitter Hackers
Post by: jpnl0006 on July 22, 2020, 05:40:53 PM
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Justin Sun, founder of cryptocurrency Tron, revealed in an interview he will give $1 million to anyone who can identify the names behind the persons who hacked Twitter earlier Wednesday, July 15. Sun’s and Tron’s Twitter accounts were also compromised during the incident.

According to Cointelegraph, Sun said they were working closely with the social networking platform to resolve the issue. He also affirmed they were very vigilant in handling their accounts. Finally, Sun said the attack highlighted the need for decentralization and adoption of trustless software and services.

Sun’s Twitter account appeared to not have said a statement regarding the hack. However, the Twitter account of Bittorrent, his other company, requested followers to remain vigilant while the hack was ongoing.

The security breach at Twitter was the largest at the moment as hackers were able to take control of dozens of accounts, not only crypto companies, but also verified accounts of tech figures like Elon Musk and politicians like Barack Obama and Joe Biden.

All the compromised accounts were tweeting about a scam giveaway. It appears the scammers managed to rake in $118,567 in today’s Bitcoin prices.

Early investigation inside Twitter revealed the hack was a coordinated social engineering attack; hackers were able to successfully target Twitter employees with access to internal systems and tools.

This incident is corroborated by Vice Motherboard, whose sources revealed the hackers paid a Twitter insider to gain access to the company’s internal tool.

“We used a rep that literally done all the work for us,” the source told the publication. Screenshots of the internal tool were being deleted immediately by Twitter when someone posted them. Twitter claimed the image violates their TOS.

Twitter said they immediately locked down the affected account and limited the functionality of all verified accounts the moment they became aware of the incident. The social media platform added it took significant steps to limit access to its internal systems.

Senator Josh Hawley of Missouri wrote a letter to Twitter CEO and co-founder Jack Dorsey requesting for more information on the extent of the breach and whether or not President Donald Trump’s account was compromised. In a separate tweet, Dorsey said they will release more information once they find out more details on how the attack happened.

https://www.ibtimes.com/trons-justin-sun-offers-1-million-bounty-twitter-hackers-3012178


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Incidentally, offering bounties in exchange for information on criminal activities is the same policy the SEC (Securities Exchange Commission) uses.

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SEC Issues $3.8 Million Whistleblower Award

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
2020-155

Washington D.C., July 14, 2020 —

The Securities and Exchange Commission today announced a $3.8 million award to a whistleblower who provided significant information that helped the SEC disrupt an ongoing fraudulent scheme.  The resulting enforcement action returned millions of dollars to harmed investors.

“Today’s award underscores the paramount role the SEC’s whistleblower program plays in safeguarding the Main Street investor.  Since the beginning of the program nearly ten years ago, the SEC has ordered more than $2.5 billion in financial remedies based on whistleblower information, including more than $1.4 billion in disgorgement and prejudgment interest, of which almost $750 million has been returned or is scheduled to be returned to harmed investors,” said Jane Norberg, Chief of the SEC’s Office of the Whistleblower.

The SEC has awarded approximately $505 million to 87 individuals since issuing its first award in 2012.  This includes awards to 20 individuals in the last 10 months, totaling almost $119 million.  All payments are made out of an investor protection fund established by Congress that is financed entirely through monetary sanctions paid to the SEC by securities law violators.  No money has been taken or withheld from harmed investors to pay whistleblower awards.  Whistleblowers may be eligible for an award when they voluntarily provide the SEC with original, timely, and credible information that leads to a successful enforcement action.  Whistleblower awards can range from 10 percent to 30 percent of the money collected when the monetary sanctions exceed $1 million.

As set forth in the Dodd-Frank Act, the SEC protects the confidentiality of whistleblowers and does not disclose information that could reveal a whistleblower’s identity.

For more information about the whistleblower program and how to report a tip, visit SEC.gov/whistleblower.

https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2020-155



The SEC claims $750 million dollars was returned to harmed investors by their whistleblower bounty program since 2012.

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$750 million has been returned or is scheduled to be returned to harmed investors,” said Jane Norberg, Chief of the SEC’s Office of the Whistleblower.

Here's to hoping Justin Sun's bounty program is as successful.




it is a good step towards helping the antifraud agencies in unravelling the mystery beind the twitter hack. i think this hackers need some serious punishemnt and that is one of the reasons why they should be fished out. to further deter people from perpetrating this kind of act in the future.