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He's been banned (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?id=893299) since Sept 2018... Still wouldn't do any deals with him even if it is the real owner of that account.

Because banned accounts are read only or watch only mode. They can read but can't post and in same way, they can read message but can't send anyone. He seems to be using that point in order to scam since he has nothing left to lose.

You shouldn't easily trust members who offer escrow, without you investigating how reputable that member is.

The rice has become porridge, @Webcelerator, it's not on the escrow list in this Bitcointalk forum and even worse, @Webcelerator has been banned in this forum.

1. Webcelerator (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Webcelerator) (Archived)

https://zizihub.com/9255.jpg

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For the future you can use the escrow service provided in this forum.
Example:
Topic: Recommended bitcointalk escrow services (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2439910.0)

Webcelerator didn't offer escrow service. OP said to use Dreamblob escrow service but Webceletor didn't agree with that. Later Webcelerator said they will use another escrow but Webceleror never came back. I think you didn't get the point, YOSHIE.
It's true that users shouldn't trust anyone so easily. There are a lot of scammers around.

You interpret my words too quickly, you misinterpret them.

I said to OP.


From the meaning of what I said, anyone who offers "escrow" service if it is not listed in the escrow service in this forum, ignore don't believe, either by telegram or in this forum, even though he shows other members./who knows, it could be, it's an Alt account.
Better, anyone who wants to use an escrow service, direct communication to the intended member, without going through other members.
That's what I meant, no, it should: @Webcelerator offers an escrow service to the OP.

This user seems to be accused for scam attempts and seems like you are also another target of them. Lucky that you got rid of them. Check the referenced thread of elmanchez tag and you will get idea about his scam method.

I just checked his profile and his "Current Status" shows as online:
https://i.imgur.com/B2ABOuO.jpg

So no doubt here he is the same person who contacted you on Telegram. Maybe he is reading this thread right now!

Obviously, he has many alts/friends and he will try to convince you to use one of them as escrow.
Do not make any deal with him

If the contents of this screenshot are true, then you should report the PM to admin.  Of course screenshots could easily be faked, so this might be an attempt to discredit elmanchez, which may or may not be happening.  In my opinion the verdict is still out on that.

But again, if this personal message is real, he's essentially admitting to ban evasion.  Have you reported it to admin?

@LoyceV has a practical way of doing this, he might volunteer if he has the time.



Good, maybe @hilariousandco will have access to it, and let us know one way or the other.

I think suchmoon can help too  :) I remember him saying he did it before.
Anyway, it doesn't matter anymore since OP reported the message. We will know he is telling the truth when elmanchez's account get banned.
I tend to believe him, though. There is no reason why he would be lying about this.

I can do this tomorrow if you want. I didn't read the details (hey, it's Sunday night) but if you send me account details and captcha free URL (https://bitcointalk.org/captcha_code.php) (so I can use Tor), I can check and confirm/deny any PM tomorrow.
I'll read the details tomorrow too :P

Yes. But before messing around with your account: Stake your Bitcoin address here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.0). If you want to ever use your current password again: change it before sending it to me.
The captcha free link makes it easier for me to use Tor (so I don't end up in your IP logs (https://bitcointalk.org/myips.php)). After I'm done verifying, you should change your password and Reset (https://bitcointalk.org/captcha_code.php) your captcha bypass code.

So to be clear, I only have to verify this PM?

Interesting findings.
This guy elmanchez sent me PM some time ago and he offered to make me some ANN topic design for free, even if I never asked him to do this.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2553198

He never made anything and never talked with me after that.

I confirm this PM (in vareole's inbox) is authentic: elmanchez confirms ownership of fantom196 and Webcelerator.
Archived (https://archive.is/9TRMt#selection-9331.46-9370.3) (in case imgur.com gets edited).

I confirm these PMs (in vareole's outbox) are authentic.
Archived (https://archive.is/9TRMt#selection-9841.0-9804.16) (in case imgur.com gets edited).

@vareole: you should change your password and captcha code again :)

With all these newb accounts apparently trying to bring elmanchez down over the last month or two, I have to say, I did not see this coming.

This connects elmanchez to potentially over a hundred other accounts (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2544574.msg54708308#msg54708308), some going back to 2013, and of course, proves that he is ban evading.

So bizarre that he would drag in all these other accounts when all he had to do was mention the elmanchez one. Still, something doesn't feel quite right about the situation, but it is what it is.

Maybe someone asked elmanchez to send that PM ;D

Maybe he bought those accounts - if that's a good excuse for plagiarism then he's totally not ban evading either.

Or maybe it's time to use Occam's razor on this one.

This is turn for the worst, I must say...

Now I'd like to know is it elmanchez who was behind the creation of these accounts?  Since some of them date back to 2013, I'm finding that hard to believe. 
Did elmanchez try to buy some hero accounts, which turned out banned, essentially falling for yet another scam?
Or, did elmanchez sell his account to this account farmer, who's trying to use it to...  What is he trying to do?

Regardless, I'm concerned since elmanchez owes me 0.043BTC and 0.3ETH. 

While plausible, it doesn't change the fact that he tried to pass a banned account as trustworthy, going as far as using a screenshot to confirm receipt of a PM (because obviously he wasn't able to reply to the PM). That's a proper scam attempt.

Sorry for your loss but I doubt he intends to pay those loans back.

Obviously, elmanchez's plan was to gain the trust of the community before pulling his exit scam. It's clear from the above replies, highly trusted members and DTs still find it hard to believe he is a scammer!
Technically, he didn't scam anyone in this particular case, though.

I knew from the beginning there was something wrong with this user and he shouldn't be trusted here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5237656.msg54152770).

@DireWolfM14, I hope you will, somehow, get your money back.

I also got a PM from elmanchez some time ago regarding the sale of BTC for PayPal, and we have not traded before, nor have in any way asked publicly or privately that I want something like that. Only bob123 as DT member then reacted and red tag elmanchez, and this was almost a month ago.

I wonder why other DTs avoided at least leaving a neutral tag if they felt there wasn’t enough evidence - and why elmanchez still has more positive and neutral feedbacks than negative ones after all the evidence presented?

No idea what others are doing, but after LoyecV confirmation I am giving negative tag to this guy.
He is also a liar doing ban evasion, and should be banned.

So if I'm getting this right, he was scamming, denying the scams, then trying to borrow money (AKA scam again) under the pretense that he was trying to compensate the scam victim. That's quite clever.

Sad to see it turned out this way for @elmanchez. Some of his explanations about such previous exchange scam accusations on him were pitiful at most. But looking at how the above PM confirms, it seems he was probably motived to pull out money any way possible. I am still hoping for his explanation if there is any.

There is nothing sad in the fact that one scammer was discovered along with what appears to be a whole bunch of alt accounts with which a lot of bad has been done to forum users. What is sad that he still did not get perma ban, given all the evidence presented.

This is something which should go into the category of plagiarism, without mercy and too much thinking - the man literally made a criminal online organization.

I was sad about how hard it is to track a single person doing multiple scam attempts, and how un-noticed one can go here, leading to such unexpected damage as done to the OP.

Anyways, I agree a permanent ban is valid due to ban envision in this case, but I would not go as far as calling him a criminal though.

Same modus operandi as before, he wants to build a reputation by sending first to trusted members, and of course he hopes that they will leave him positive feedback which he will use to scam other users. Of course the user made his first post in the Russian board...

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I find it strange that you have any empathy for people like him given that his only goal was and still is to deceive as many people as possible in order to gain financial gain. I don’t know how we should call such people, should it even matter if we say he’s an ordinary online criminal or just a thief?

I created a type 3 flag for elmanchez:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=2163

Sorry for your loss, that's the disadvantage of gaining quick trust. From the beginning, his activity was quite suspicious, but he had managed successfully those suspensions. Once a time he had asked me for a loan, but since I am not a lender so I denied him that time. However, he had made an avatar for me when he was a newbie. And have made a few contributions by creating the free design. Eventually, he successfully gained trust from lenders including TMAN. 

Sorry once again for your losses, the amount was quite big. Supported flags and tagged as well.

flag supported.
His last post was made 15 days ago so I suppose he doesn't care about this account anymore or how many negative feedbacks it gets.

Don't know why his account is not banned yet! Did OP report it correctly and mentioned the reason behind reporting the PM (ban evasion)?

If the mod who handled the report read only the original post and didn't read all the replies, there is no way he would figure out you reported it for ban evasion.
He would think you reported it for scamming which is what this topic is about. Scams are not moderated, so he would mark it as bad and move on.

I suggest you report it again and clearly state you are reporting it for ban evasion and add links of the connected accounts, just to make things easier.

Damn man, that was a really good catch. Can you link the post where you put that image earlier? Is it already in this thread or a similar one?

I noticed there was something just a little bit fishy about this guy and actually suspected it was Rambotnic building up a new account. First, he told an insane story about how he had a hard drive with bitcoins on it and his grandfather turned it into a keyholder. He managed to rack up a few merits there. Then he started posting betting predictions that were just awful, telling small lies about the outcome of his bet.


He's been kind of silent for a while, maybe he knew it wasn't gonna work out and moved on.