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Title: Found 74k Bitcoin on my old machine, how i can recover ?
Post by: Newbie2020 on July 24, 2020, 08:23:30 PM
Hi guys,

I think these forum may be the best to solve some hard issues....

Well, last week i did make an mainitenance on my old machine and i found one interesting discovery, an very old wallet with some bitcoins. But i have issue to sync, cuz the wallet is very old, there some advice to next steps ?

The weird is about transactions, why i cant saw my balance and transactions online ?





Some of my receive addresses:

"true","2019-11-01T18:35:57","Mined","","1ot6aJqrdUtQR5WnAWkoqC9n2G8y5Gr2e","50.00",
"true","2019-11-01T18:16:19","Mined","","19w4RbrJH2D8s5HLMX4j9hY4EcNHYoAYyj","50.00"
"true","2019-11-01T17:09:50","Mined","","1PugDBFny6gdkkh2L8z7baSd3VmuMEnHB","50.00",
"true","2019-11-01T10:27:19","Mined","","12YXcSp9VnStPXQ9FwxfsWmzQiVoCkQiNh","50.00",
"true","2019-11-01T10:07:46","Mined","","1LB35Jpjcyeh1mq12QAsSUkAX7XCoyb7Zv","50.00"
"true","2019-11-01T10:02:25","Mined","","1P11xZiWxpxFv4b3zBsHxTGFsqw7EZhQBD","50.00",
"true","2019-11-01T09:29:12","Mined","","192ZjqcAn6CcWWCxECXB3vdjqaPVnJ48mJ","50.00"
"true","2019-11-01T08:21:33","Mined","","1hhRUUkx3Kps9ejx9jd2ANmSZc2bfsLAQ","50.00",
"true","2019-11-01T08:17:28","Mined","","139QZHeAAb17AfdASUuZJZ7LaKHX47BmLB","50.00",
"true","2019-11-01T08:10:17","Mined","","1PZDaK9RepUJEST25taRb2tm7z35qZh1us","50.00",
"true","2019-11-01T07:27:46","Mined","","18tXBaGaSu6c7Y5VxrMg9A1Q9fxJ6hDdMQ","50.00"
"true","2019-11-01T06:10:29","Mined","","146UQGMYVsWc7V3wnDX4gnCsChEQSfjFc4","50.00"
"true","2019-11-01T05:10:49","Mined","","1LrJh3HYVZdQHXS2hCBNSSAnD79B3uED7o","50.00"
"true","2019-11-01T04:55:54","Mined","","1MMBs737H6eHSpJHuHXUXHzPhHL7ETX6dL","50.00",
"true","2019-11-01T04:46:13","Mined","","14tbDqDwETLyVugzgZ15LMQw8CJBRQJq4R","50.00"
"true","2019-11-01T00:42:18","Mined","","1DGQYZFG68SBy8LktURSh7eqTXnNVRQQT","50.00",
"true","2019-11-01T00:36:21","Mined","","1DosVQZymqU1wxbZSQiHFPQnM5u54BE4gM","50.00"
"true","2019-10-31T23:51:27","Mined","","1DnomXgQTCJpSSwNaKmjWENUPPHJePiUmf","50.00",
"true","2019-10-31T22:44:11","Mined","","1MUnaen3x1EJ9MEhpAaL8wqujQYDZiQGHf","50.00"
"true","2019-10-31T21:50:36","Mined","","1LHGDEvbQSg84UfrUi9kZxNyFDUb6VBDDT","50.00",
"true","2019-10-31T21:43:44","Mined","","1Lz2JytbJkqxFdNxuXRWbL94aGWGX5QJXh","50.00",
"true","2019-10-31T21:30:58","Mined","","1Ar9XB1yqZnY7SF6p1XmE3UXzb7NGcYntC","50.00",
"true","2019-10-31T21:19:50","Mined","","1CSF1zzWV5V89r6KddgHwSLkSodR2JGb7u","50.00",
"true","2019-10-31T21:02:32","Mined","","13vyvt9ickfeWhvA9mMqrc4sGZWRxMyjxU","50.00",
"true","2019-10-31T20:30:00","Mined","","1HZakVa2r96xF21ThUYXt6YvK1whd1sVbe","50.00"
"true","2019-10-31T20:09:10","Mined","","1JJTmSd697aUJoJNTu77FEKwiUv6z2mpsb","50.00"
"true","2019-10-31T19:31:03","Mined","","197H3bc5kAmNEpcFMYNRKiBfBDWZe2w68F","50.00"
"true","2019-10-31T18:20:21","Mined","","16WBB8benjCdXYbawi1zMJe2VRrXfgo4zA","50.00",
"true","2019-10-31T18:16:09","Mined","","14tHAGHWxAYiuNoSkWoU7qBmgtTx81Z4Wc","50.00"
"true","2019-10-31T17:35:39","Mined","","14Lj8QwZZ6Y6QtwSznmWBXs8d5SYHik41v","50.00"
"true","2019-10-31T17:04:03","Mined","","13rVrAwP3ZAGchH4CpUL71BbCE2djYSb6s","50.00"


https://ibb.co/nkkkYkD
https://ibb.co/vZVckrF
https://ibb.co/VJZ5QtF

Example transactions

"txid" : "0039d5b6d6c4322eb0d957b5bf3c49edee49bf3272d6655ef4de9b5125636498",
"vout" : 0,
"address" : "1JxUgKTHoYiEuRuMs14rFY1TT9AwMiwc13",
"scriptPubKey" : "2102c4f35495fca46e78bd8408a4729a36d29af6d3e611d7a0820d9f98cf3fe41399ac",
"amount" : 50.00000000,
"confirmations" : 2778
},
{
"txid" : "0061c146fbcbacd6c52b5b77b069cc5e5c63f679163efed476048169a49620df",
"vout" : 0,
"address" : "19qfckALPVsoZe4dqbCD8ewHBZG9KNMj7x",
"scriptPubKey" : "210260d5c11f04597f1d09bcdc0bee6d1f777f736beb9f02db76cd8af11459be7c77ac",
"amount" : 50.00000000,
"confirmations" : 464
}

Now i'm trying to sinc another wallet with an 0.9.0 version that i found on my old machine.


Title: Re: Found 74k Bitcoin on my old machine, how i can recover ?
Post by: hosseinimr93 on July 24, 2020, 08:31:33 PM
If you are trying to recover the fund stored in addresses posted in OP, don't waste your time. All of those addresses are empty.

From what I see in the third image you posted, I think the app you used is a scam.
The block reward in 2019 was 12.5 BTC. The image says that you mined three blocks on November 4, 2019 and earned 50 BTC in each of them.


Title: Re: Found 74k Bitcoin on my old machine, how i can recover ?
Post by: jackg on July 24, 2020, 08:48:16 PM
Yeah 2019 was pretty recent too if you did mine them surely you'd remember what you were dojng or would've started fiddling with stuff if they were indeed yours.

I doubt v0.9 is compatible with the current blockchain and if it is it'll be slower than the more recent versions.


Title: Re: Found 74k Bitcoin on my old machine, how i can recover ?
Post by: DaveF on July 24, 2020, 08:53:28 PM
Considering that the reward was 12.5 in 2019 it's obviously a scam wallet or some other form of malware.
Makes you wonder in theory, how difficult it really would be, to compile the core wallet with different seed addresses and no checkpoints and get it to people. :(
Would pass all the various virus checks / anti-virus apps too with just the minor changes if they were letting bitcoin though in the 1st place.

Either way what the OP has is not legit.

-Dave


Title: Re: Found 74k Bitcoin on my old machine, how i can recover ?
Post by: TryNinja on July 24, 2020, 08:53:59 PM
The weird is about transactions, why i cant saw my balance and transactions online ?
Because they do not exist. Those addresses never received any BTC and the transaction hashes you posted do not exist.

Are you sure this is a Bitcoin wallet? Maybe a forked coin (Bitcoin Super or some sh*t like this)?

Do you sincerely remember mining BTC? Or did you find this wallet somewhere? Be honest.


Title: Re: Found 74k Bitcoin on my old machine, how i can recover ?
Post by: Newbie2020 on July 24, 2020, 09:15:24 PM
Thank you all for the answers.

That's not "scam" LOL, as far as I know.

Some points that may make some difference.

I believe that 50 BTC's are old (very), at the time we can mine with normal GPU's.

I received these rewards and they were not propagated in the network correctly, they can be contained in my "wallet.dat".

Why  when i make "getbalance" i saw all these BTC's ?

Sorry but i dont have knowlegde to solve this alone



Title: Re: Found 74k Bitcoin on my old machine, how i can recover ?
Post by: DaveF on July 24, 2020, 10:31:07 PM
Thank you all for the answers.

That's not "scam" LOL, as far as I know.

Some points that may make some difference.

I believe that 50 BTC's are old (very), at the time we can mine with normal GPU's.

I received these rewards and they were not propagated in the network correctly, they can be contained in my "wallet.dat".

Why  when i make "getbalance" i saw all these BTC's ?

Sorry but i dont have knowlegde to solve this alone



1) If they were not propagated in the network correctly they do not exist and never will exist.
2) The dates clearly show 2019
3) It's either:
    a) Not real BTC but some fork as TryNinja said in which case it's worthless
    b) A hacked / corrupted / scam wallet.dat in which case it's worthless
    c) A fake wallet executable in which case it's worthless

-Dave


Title: Re: Found 74k Bitcoin on my old machine, how i can recover ?
Post by: jackg on July 24, 2020, 11:01:14 PM
Do you actually know how old this is though, when did you get it? I mean it's clearly fake as a bitcoin wallet and as dave says you need a transaction to propagate for it to be legit.

You can't mine a block, keep it to yourself and expect the reward, stuff just doesn't work that way.



@dave I don't think it's much of a sophisticated edit to change the addresses, the transaction stuff could be more advanced or it could just be testnet edited to show something else (all gui stuff) ...


Title: Re: Found 74k Bitcoin on my old machine, how i can recover ?
Post by: nc50lc on July 25, 2020, 01:53:44 AM
I believe that 50 BTC's are old (very), at the time we can mine with normal GPU's.
Those timestamps wont lie.
You must have loaded a wallet.dat file from an altcoin which uses a forked version of Bitcoin Core as the full node client.
Because most of those can still be read by Bitcoin core and derive bitcoin addresses based from the data in it.

Quote from: Newbie2020
Why  when i make "getbalance" i saw all these BTC's ?
Because it's saved in the wallet.dat file.
You need to fully sync Bitcoin core to see your real balance.


Title: Re: Found 74k Bitcoin on my old machine, how i can recover ?
Post by: BASE16 on July 25, 2020, 08:50:44 AM
He is clearly trying to scam people.
Don't send any cash to him.


Title: Re: Found 74k Bitcoin on my old machine, how i can recover ?
Post by: suzanne5223 on July 25, 2020, 10:02:39 AM
Do you actually know how old this is though, when did you get it? I mean it's clearly fake as a bitcoin wallet and as dave says you need a transaction to propagate for it to be legit.

You can't mine a block, keep it to yourself and expect the reward, stuff just doesn't work that way.
I believe he cant actually know how old the wallet because theres no reason he wont know the wallet are empty not have knowledge bitcoin core if he was the person that mined the BTC in the picture he presented.
I think is either he bought the information or stole someone old wallet information.


He is clearly trying to scam people.
Don't send any cash to him.
This seems to be about scam but no one is stupid in this forum to send any form of cash. If he needs help there are some COVID 19 emergency charity programs in the service section.


Title: Re: Found 74k Bitcoin on my old machine, how i can recover ?
Post by: PawGo on July 25, 2020, 10:58:43 AM
If address is old, should be forked and has some altcoins. Ninja says there is nothing: http://www.findmycoins.ninja/


Title: Re: Found 74k Bitcoin on my old machine, how i can recover ?
Post by: TheArchaeologist on July 25, 2020, 11:07:46 AM
Well, last week i did make an mainitenance on my old machine and i found one interesting discovery, an very old wallet with some bitcoins.
Very old wallet with transactions from 2019.. your story doesn't make sense. You probably bought a wallet.dat file and got scammed.


Title: Re: Found 74k Bitcoin on my old machine, how i can recover ?
Post by: Newbie2020 on July 25, 2020, 12:51:41 PM
He is clearly trying to scam people.
Don't send any cash to him.

Why i will ask for "cash"?

I want nothing but help.





Title: Re: Found 74k Bitcoin on my old machine, how i can recover ?
Post by: Mpamaegbu on July 25, 2020, 03:22:50 PM
<snipe>

Either way what the OP has is not legit.

<snip>
Very apt!

Whenever we start reading this type of sob stories just know there is something cooking for Bitcoin. We don't get to find these stories in the bear market. Bull run begins and boom from nowhere people start discovering lost wallets and apps.


Title: Re: Found 74k Bitcoin on my old machine, how i can recover ?
Post by: Abdussamad on July 25, 2020, 04:54:19 PM
Thank you all for the answers.

That's not "scam" LOL, as far as I know.

Some points that may make some difference.

I believe that 50 BTC's are old (very), at the time we can mine with normal GPU's.

I received these rewards and they were not propagated in the network correctly, they can be contained in my "wallet.dat".

Why  when i make "getbalance" i saw all these BTC's ?

Sorry but i dont have knowlegde to solve this alone



Bitcoin transactions that are not recorded in the blockchain aren't really bitcoin transactions. You haven't received anything.

It could be an altcoin wallet. All the bitcoin forks would have the same block reward though.


Title: Re: Found 74k Bitcoin on my old machine, how i can recover ?
Post by: HCP on July 28, 2020, 09:45:12 PM
I concur with Dave, Abdussamad and the others. The most likely scenario is that this wallet.dat is from some "Bitcoin compatible" altcoin.

If you load an altcoin wallet.dat in Bitcoin Core, it will show a Bitcoin address generated from the altcoin public key... You should be able to open (a copy of) the wallet.dat in a text editor and search for "name" (or use Pywallet etc)... that should show you the actual coin address and you might be able to figure out from the address prefix what the coin actually is.

Something like this: https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/19589/how-to-determine-what-type-of-coins-a-wallet-dat-contains


Title: Re: Found 74k Bitcoin on my old machine, how i can recover ?
Post by: keychainX on August 04, 2020, 08:13:41 AM
Hi guys,

I think these forum may be the best to solve some hard issues....

Well, last week i did make an mainitenance on my old machine and i found one interesting discovery, an very old wallet with some bitcoins. But i have issue to sync, cuz the wallet is very old, there some advice to next steps ?

The weird is about transactions, why i cant saw my balance and transactions online ?





Some of my receive addresses:

"true","2019-11-01T18:35:57","Mined","","1ot6aJqrdUtQR5WnAWkoqC9n2G8y5Gr2e","50.00",
"true","2019-11-01T18:16:19","Mined","","19w4RbrJH2D8s5HLMX4j9hY4EcNHYoAYyj","50.00"
"true","2019-11-01T17:09:50","Mined","","1PugDBFny6gdkkh2L8z7baSd3VmuMEnHB","50.00",
"true","2019-11-01T10:27:19","Mined","","12YXcSp9VnStPXQ9FwxfsWmzQiVoCkQiNh","50.00",
"true","2019-11-01T10:07:46","Mined","","1LB35Jpjcyeh1mq12QAsSUkAX7XCoyb7Zv","50.00"
"true","2019-11-01T10:02:25","Mined","","1P11xZiWxpxFv4b3zBsHxTGFsqw7EZhQBD","50.00",
"true","2019-11-01T09:29:12","Mined","","192ZjqcAn6CcWWCxECXB3vdjqaPVnJ48mJ","50.00"
"true","2019-11-01T08:21:33","Mined","","1hhRUUkx3Kps9ejx9jd2ANmSZc2bfsLAQ","50.00",
"true","2019-11-01T08:17:28","Mined","","139QZHeAAb17AfdASUuZJZ7LaKHX47BmLB","50.00",
"true","2019-11-01T08:10:17","Mined","","1PZDaK9RepUJEST25taRb2tm7z35qZh1us","50.00",
"true","2019-11-01T07:27:46","Mined","","18tXBaGaSu6c7Y5VxrMg9A1Q9fxJ6hDdMQ","50.00"
"true","2019-11-01T06:10:29","Mined","","146UQGMYVsWc7V3wnDX4gnCsChEQSfjFc4","50.00"
"true","2019-11-01T05:10:49","Mined","","1LrJh3HYVZdQHXS2hCBNSSAnD79B3uED7o","50.00"
"true","2019-11-01T04:55:54","Mined","","1MMBs737H6eHSpJHuHXUXHzPhHL7ETX6dL","50.00",
"true","2019-11-01T04:46:13","Mined","","14tbDqDwETLyVugzgZ15LMQw8CJBRQJq4R","50.00"
"true","2019-11-01T00:42:18","Mined","","1DGQYZFG68SBy8LktURSh7eqTXnNVRQQT","50.00",
"true","2019-11-01T00:36:21","Mined","","1DosVQZymqU1wxbZSQiHFPQnM5u54BE4gM","50.00"
"true","2019-10-31T23:51:27","Mined","","1DnomXgQTCJpSSwNaKmjWENUPPHJePiUmf","50.00",
"true","2019-10-31T22:44:11","Mined","","1MUnaen3x1EJ9MEhpAaL8wqujQYDZiQGHf","50.00"
"true","2019-10-31T21:50:36","Mined","","1LHGDEvbQSg84UfrUi9kZxNyFDUb6VBDDT","50.00",
"true","2019-10-31T21:43:44","Mined","","1Lz2JytbJkqxFdNxuXRWbL94aGWGX5QJXh","50.00",
"true","2019-10-31T21:30:58","Mined","","1Ar9XB1yqZnY7SF6p1XmE3UXzb7NGcYntC","50.00",
"true","2019-10-31T21:19:50","Mined","","1CSF1zzWV5V89r6KddgHwSLkSodR2JGb7u","50.00",
"true","2019-10-31T21:02:32","Mined","","13vyvt9ickfeWhvA9mMqrc4sGZWRxMyjxU","50.00",
"true","2019-10-31T20:30:00","Mined","","1HZakVa2r96xF21ThUYXt6YvK1whd1sVbe","50.00"
"true","2019-10-31T20:09:10","Mined","","1JJTmSd697aUJoJNTu77FEKwiUv6z2mpsb","50.00"
"true","2019-10-31T19:31:03","Mined","","197H3bc5kAmNEpcFMYNRKiBfBDWZe2w68F","50.00"
"true","2019-10-31T18:20:21","Mined","","16WBB8benjCdXYbawi1zMJe2VRrXfgo4zA","50.00",
"true","2019-10-31T18:16:09","Mined","","14tHAGHWxAYiuNoSkWoU7qBmgtTx81Z4Wc","50.00"
"true","2019-10-31T17:35:39","Mined","","14Lj8QwZZ6Y6QtwSznmWBXs8d5SYHik41v","50.00"
"true","2019-10-31T17:04:03","Mined","","13rVrAwP3ZAGchH4CpUL71BbCE2djYSb6s","50.00"


https://ibb.co/nkkkYkD
https://ibb.co/vZVckrF
https://ibb.co/VJZ5QtF

Example transactions

"txid" : "0039d5b6d6c4322eb0d957b5bf3c49edee49bf3272d6655ef4de9b5125636498",
"vout" : 0,
"address" : "1JxUgKTHoYiEuRuMs14rFY1TT9AwMiwc13",
"scriptPubKey" : "2102c4f35495fca46e78bd8408a4729a36d29af6d3e611d7a0820d9f98cf3fe41399ac",
"amount" : 50.00000000,
"confirmations" : 2778
},
{
"txid" : "0061c146fbcbacd6c52b5b77b069cc5e5c63f679163efed476048169a49620df",
"vout" : 0,
"address" : "19qfckALPVsoZe4dqbCD8ewHBZG9KNMj7x",
"scriptPubKey" : "210260d5c11f04597f1d09bcdc0bee6d1f777f736beb9f02db76cd8af11459be7c77ac",
"amount" : 50.00000000,
"confirmations" : 464
}

Now i'm trying to sinc another wallet with an 0.9.0 version that i found on my old machine.

Sure its a bitcoin core wallet and not a fork? Seen several wallets that were altcoins but synced with bitcoin core with weird tx


Title: Re: Found 74k Bitcoin on my old machine, how i can recover ?
Post by: bob123 on October 11, 2020, 12:21:16 PM
I received these rewards and they were not propagated in the network correctly, they can be contained in my "wallet.dat".

That's not how it works.


Why  when i make "getbalance" i saw all these BTC's ?

Probably because your wallet file has been manipulated to do so.

Let me ask you a question.. did you buy the wallet file?
If so, i am sorry to tell you.. but you got scammed. There are no BTC and you won't be able to "recover" anything.


Title: Re: Found 74k Bitcoin on my old machine, how i can recover ?
Post by: logfiles on October 11, 2020, 03:20:42 PM
I would turn to specialists who will help you do everything correctly and quickly, because you can create even more problems yourself.
What specialist are you talking about? Did you even bother reading the replies above?
The so-called bitcoins do not exit

Here, check a couple of addresses for yourself
1. https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/1JxUgKTHoYiEuRuMs14rFY1TT9AwMiwc13
2. https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/1PugDBFny6gdkkh2L8z7baSd3VmuMEnHB
3. https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/1Lz2JytbJkqxFdNxuXRWbL94aGWGX5QJXh

The addresses have zero transaction histories and Zero BTC. The Transaction ID's Posted also don't exist on the Bitcoin blockchain. Now tell me, what specialist can recover Bitcoins that are not there?