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I would normally not say anything here, but I'm really not surprised at all. ::)

If he runs the site on his behalf, he should at least have his phone number, FFS. Sounds like a personal thing because we know he's just like Trump, can dish it but can't take it and holds grudges like Trump just the same.

Sorry, I hope this ends the way it should, it might give him and his operations some shred of integrity lol.

It's quite amazing that there is no contact information on the site. Did you get a confirmation e-mail or anything else that would tell you whom to contact if you have an issue with the order?

Nothing.... and an email address is not required to place the order.  I clicked on the link in a thread created by OgNasty which guided me to the site.  I figured I could reach out to Og should there be problems.  I had minerjones reach out to Og with all my proof of purchase.  They brushed me off claiming no responsibility for the website yet they have a thread shilling the coins.  Og "reached out" to nonnakip if they actually exist to take the coin off the website but they didn't bother to tell them to check the forum for messages and apply the refund.  Seems like the site is more important than the customer.  This is a total joke!!

It's shoddy to say the least but since it was paid just a few hours ago I'd give them at least 24 hours to come up with a refund.

Edit: I just noticed that you're requesting a refund to a different address than the one(s) you paid from. This can be an issue.

Indeed, that's why I came here with this.  To avoid anymore "talk to so and so," or another, "talk to this other person."  Og was less than helpful when minerjones reached out to him on my behalf, so I figured this was my best shot.  

I just want my gold or my bits without a bunch of bullshit.

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Send it back to the same address... I really don't care.  I obviously have PLENTY of proof!

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I just prefer fresh addresses every time. 

I think it's natural that shops give an invoice whether or not the transaction has gone through and send invoices with the registered email or something. Daily recordings of business transactions are crucial when running a business. Having access to your website is crucial too, IMO. At least you could have control over stuff as well. I hope you get your refund soon.

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Maybe sign a message from where the BTC was stored initially?

Good. Someone a while ago had issues with OgNasty's refusal to return coins to a different address (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2040831.msg20317628#msg20317628) so at least you can avoid that if he decides to be anal about it.


Yes. Or have it sent to the original address. As long as it's under OP's control (and not e.g. some shared wallet or a CoinJoin payment) it should be ok.

I’d like to add that I too am affected by this gold coin being sold after it is sold out.
I have reached out to both Og and Nonnakip. I have provided a signed message from the payment address with a message of my desired refund address. I have confirmed the order’s email address on file, however it should be noted that no invoice or order confirmation was ever sent from email.

I have not yet received a refund, but as noted above, it has been less than 24 hours so I can allow some time for this to be processed. I am hoping for it to be processed and completed by tomorrow.

I am willing to give the benefit of the doubt - OK the coin was sold out and the website was simply not updated. I have no concrete evidence to indicate the contrary. But I am disappointed with how the refund process is being handled. Unless we are compensated for our transaction fees, we will end up losing money as a result of another business’ error. No other gift or extra compensation has been offered (in addition to the refund of course) has yet to be offered to remedy the situation.

I responded to this issue in the appropriate thread already. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5178345.msg54878121#msg54878121

Accusing me of lying about stock is a pretty shitty thing to do.



This should make it simple enough for nonnakip. I’ll forward the info to him since I guess you aren’t familiar enough with the club to know how to contact him.

Amazon has several ways to contact customer service all over their website genius.... and if it were PayPal, I'd have my money back already.  Any other smartass comments I can refute?  

....and the ONLY reason you are doing anything is because I made this public and you NEVER like to look bad to the masses. :-*  


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please have nonnakip sign in and see this thread so they can refund to the appropriate address I gave for the refund.

I don't believe that for a second.... but sure, as long as I'm refunded what I'm owed.

I love when you say stupid things..... "known liar who can't be trusted"

My trust says otherwise.  When people like Charlie Lee and Bobby Lee use my services.... that trumps anything said from a wannabe such as yourself.  Please keep talking, it's the gift that keeps on giving.


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Why do you always try to spin things like you are the victim??..... I bought an item that's supposedly "not available."  You originally blew me off and I'm the one waiting for a refund but of course you make everything sound like "poor OgNasty."

If you called your Amazon customers "liars" or jerked them around for something as simple as a refund for an out of stock item - you wouldn't be selling on Amazon for long. You can get kicked out of there for selling out of stock items to begin with. Acting all high and mighty in this situation is ridiculous. All you need to do is refund and apologize, how hard can it be.

I received a message from nonnakip this morning.  I'm being told I need to wait until Friday for a refund as that's when the next distribution is made.  This is 100% unacceptable.  There is no reason to hold my funds for 1 more second, let alone make me wait until Friday.  I could care less if it's inconvenient to do a separate transaction.... just do it.

I WANT MY FUNDS NOW!!

This is ridiculous!!

Fuck both those guys. Leaving read on both now until this is sorted ASAP. ::)

I, too, provided a valid signature that was unable to be verified from their side. I have requested that the funds be sent back to the payment address since no additional verification is required (for obvious reasons). I have not yet heard back and no refund has been issued at this time. Based on time stamps of log in, it does appear my message has been received and read. I hope we can get this resolved today and end the matter once and for all.

What do any "club distributions" have to do with your BTC payment for an item that is missing from their shop?

If there was no item received and you paid for an item that day, you should immediately get a refund in the same currency you paid for the missing product.

You are not a "club member" and "distributions" are for the seats on nastyfans loaded coins if im not mistaken, and what does that have anything to do with with a gold coin you attempted to buy from a website shop that was not updated properly?

This is NOT the way a shop runs, you paid, they did not deliver, you get a refund, am I missing something here?

You dont and should not have to wait for some archaic distributions fund to return your payment? Your funds should have never gone into any distribution fund to begin with if it was not processed as a proper sale. What is happening with those distribution funds, are they earning some sort of interest?  Why are they "locked up until Friday"?

It is the fault of the site owner and operator, whether they are one and the same or not to manage the web store properly and rerun payments as soon as they are asked for, it is not your responsibility to succumb to some whackado system to receive your funds back.

You should charge interest on the funds for every day they are not returned to you or file a complaint with the proper authorities if necessary.

This is absurd! and I am shocked this is actually happening from a "trusted forum member" and treasurer?

Bad Form!

You lied about over two thousands bitcoins that disappeared in your business.  Why would't you lie for a worthless coin?


You're fucked now AM.   Mr. OG has pulled out the big gun "you are a liar" defense vs the blockchain...

Just send them their money back. Jesus.

It's totally like Amazon, except it's two guys with no apparent clue as to how to manage a website, or to sell stuff, or to provide customer service, let alone how to send bitcoins.


I'm shocked that there is someone shocked by this. Og is nasty on a good day and extra nasty to people he dislikes - a broad category, which apparently includes anonymousminer.

I don't have any idea how OgNasty conducts business, but I'm pretty sure there's no legitimate reason why anonymousminer can't get a prompt refund.  And since I have a feeling that a refund will eventually make its way to anonymousminer's wallet, I'm baffled as to why he'd have to jump through any hoops or be given vague reasons as to the delay.  At best this is horrible customer service.

You're missing all the past drama OgNasty's been involved in.  He's never wrong and has some serious blind spots as to how his arrogance works against him. 

Bingo.

Looks like OG has been doing some deleting.... glad I quoted them. 

Here is one: 



Here is another:


Always cleaning up after yourself.... trying to keep an image of a decent guy. ::)

Unfortunately you are not!  You are a complete scumbag!  Plain and simple. 


I will say this..... I do not think nonnakip is an alt of Og..... nonnakip is definitely more professional and he was honest about his blunder.  nonnakip apologized as well. :o   I highly doubt those words could make it out of Og's head let alone have them said out loud or typed.

OgNasty is a complete asshole from the top of his head to the bottom of his feet and wouldn't know how to act professional if his life depended on it.


Funny thing - Og claimed that he asked for the coins to be removed from the site "weeks ago" - nonnakip said he was asked 4 days ago and just didn't have the time. 

Just more Ogembellishment to sound better to the masses. 


You really are a pile of shit!  How do you live with yourself??..... oh yeah.... the piles of money.... I'm sorry, I forgot, as I've heard that response many many times in the past.


OgNasty, you have made the front page of my book based on your all around qualities.

Be proud of yourself. :-*


https://i.imgur.com/Y36Gzif.jpg?1

It’s been less than 24 hours since I saw that this guy claimed he didn’t know how to PM nonnakip on this forum and wanted the payment address refunded for his order. He provided no contact info with his order. He couldn’t provide a core confirmable signature for a refund.  He wouldn’t PM nonnakip for resolution and instead blamed me for his incompetence. I still helped him even though I don’t run the site and he’s left me negative trust and told many lies about our communications previously going as far as to make a thread full of lies and locking it so I can’t refute them with screenshot evidence. Absolutely amazing response. Where’s my gold star?

You’re welcome.

PS - Next time you want me to provide customer service for an order, try actually ordering from me.

This is SO fake it just makes you sound like an idiot.  Please... say more!!  Please!!


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I did NOT thank you so please choke on that "You're welcome!"

Bitcoin allows you to send money instantly.  If you want a gold star, go above and beyond.  You don't even deserve a bronze star right now.

You scammed AM by claiming to have a coin for sale.  You have the coin to refund it NOW, and deal with nonakip later.

You're welcome.  :)

Wow, maybe things got nasty between the 2 website guys. ::)

Anyhow, glad to hear, will change negs to neutrals once you update.  :P

When you look at all the sociopath's "projects" and the "donations" that fly back and forth between them, it appears Mr. OG uses this system to remove himself from any responsibility - he can always point to another illegal, unlicensed entity and say it's their fault.

I'm glad I was able to get through to that idiot and point out he can send the coin now, and deal with the other entity later.

This will happen with anyone who still believes Mr. OG has respect for his own rules.  :/

This makes me laugh even more.... again please keep talking.

I despise you, why would I deal with you directly?  I ordered from your website that you link in all your shills. ::)  Business is business.... ~$150.00 below spot was a deal.

Now you want praise for calling/texting "your partner" to have them issue a refund for a coin your site offered for sale and couldn't deliver while making it sound like "poor me." 

You are a JOKE, and TRULY that "special" kind of stupid aren't you?? :-*

Sorry for being so inconsiderate. Here's your gold star.

https://i.imgflip.com/49maeq.jpg

OgNasty, you owe both your customers 1 toz of gold as they purchased.  Any other excuses you make are sad.

https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/04e2d326e93d566bf080464835c65c4a1d0a726f06f255667cf9e2db72d3cbb2

Mempool size 75 MB. Recommended fee 100+ sat, refund was sent with a 10 sat fee. 4 hours - still not confirmed of course. Gold star customer service for sure.

Cheap ass, although from what ive seen in teh past , thats a typical OG move :)

How many sats were sent for the gold coin?

so did you get your confirms as of right now?

when you sent the .1773 btc in it was worth 1750

it is now worth 1983


gold at spot is now 1933


I am making an effort to see what Og owes you

so i need to know if your confirms came in.

Since there seems to be you and someone else I was trying try figure  what damages

 were caused to both of you.

But its okay you seem to not want any help from me.

I have the confirmations I'm comfortable with to say I got my refund.  After all the hoops as seen in this thread, it's done.

Thank you for all the comments:
philipma1957
buckrogers
suchmoon
Lesbian Cow
Vod
owlcatz
The Pharmacist
marlboroza
crwth
and  toothemoonsands


As for you Og.... I've said it before and I'm saying it again.... What a shitty way to live a blessed life.

....and kindly GFY!! :-*