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Title: New to Electrum -- posted an offline transaction by accident...
Post by: KevinFTL on July 28, 2020, 03:11:59 PM
New to Electrum -- posted an offline transaction by accident, now my funds are stuck.

Can anyone help me.  I've only been using Electrum for a week or so, and I sent a transaction offline by accident.  It says I now need to broadcast it but have no clue what I am doing.  Please help.


Kevin


Title: Re: New to Electrum -- posted an offline transaction by accident...
Post by: ranochigo on July 28, 2020, 03:16:28 PM
Connect to the internet, making sure you're connected to an Electrum server (green bubble at the bottom right).

Right click the transaction and select transaction details. Click the "Broadcast" button.


Title: Re: New to Electrum -- posted an offline transaction by accident...
Post by: KevinFTL on July 28, 2020, 03:20:22 PM
Thank you soooooooooooooo much!!!


Starting my day off dripping sweat thinking I threw away some $100CAD in btc.

I guess I sent it unsigned... so my green light was on, but wasn't broadcasting. 

I clicked where you said, signed, then broadcasted it.  Thank you so much.

Have a splendid day!!!!!!!


:)


Title: Re: New to Electrum -- posted an offline transaction by accident...
Post by: nc50lc on July 29, 2020, 03:58:56 AM
I guess I sent it unsigned... so my green light was on, but wasn't broadcasting.  
You cannot click 'broadcast' while it's unsigned, you must have clicked "save" at the left side of the advanced preview instead.
There's no other way it was saved as an unsigned local transaction.


Title: Re: New to Electrum -- posted an offline transaction by accident...
Post by: bob123 on August 02, 2020, 05:28:01 PM
Starting my day off dripping sweat thinking I threw away some $100CAD in btc.

You can't really "throw away" BTC.

What you can do is to send them to a wrong address (not just a typo, but a different address).
But you can not just "lose" your BTC in terms of they have not been sent anywhere but are no longer assigned to your public key.

If you keep your mnemonic code secure and check the address you are sending to, you won't accidentally lose BTC.


Title: Re: New to Electrum -- posted an offline transaction by accident...
Post by: khaled0111 on August 02, 2020, 06:06:27 PM
A transaction gets stuck when it's been broadcasted (has to be signed) but didn't confirm yet... generally because of low fees.
Here, the transaction is saved locally on your wallet and this doesn't prevent you from using the same UTXOs to create a new one.

It looks like this added new feature to Electrum 4.0.2 to save transactions locally and show them as pending is a little bit confusing.


Title: Re: New to Electrum -- posted an offline transaction by accident...
Post by: bob123 on August 02, 2020, 06:41:20 PM
A transaction gets stuck when it's been broadcasted (has to be signed) but didn't confirm yet... generally because of low fees.
Here, the transaction is saved locally on your wallet and this doesn't prevent you from using the same UTXOs to create a new one.

It looks like this added new feature to Electrum 4.0.2 to save transactions locally and show them as pending is a little bit confusing.

Why should the TX be marked as offline if it has been broadcasted and also received by nodes resulting in the TX being in their mempool ?
This doesn't make much sense to me.

If this truly is the case, that's more of a bug, not a feature.


Title: Re: New to Electrum -- posted an offline transaction by accident...
Post by: khaled0111 on August 02, 2020, 07:15:56 PM
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If this truly is the case, that's more of a bug, not a feature.
maybe my reply wasn't clear enough, sorry about that  :)
the transaction wasn't broadcasted in first place and I believe it's marked as pending not offline.

I saw many users complaining about this. It usually happens when they forget to add fees. Electrum will automatically save the transaction and mark it as pending.
When seeing pending next to the transaction on Electrum, most users will think it's been broadcasted and will wait for the confirmation which will never happen  ;)


Title: Re: New to Electrum -- posted an offline transaction by accident...
Post by: nc50lc on August 03, 2020, 03:04:39 AM
the transaction wasn't broadcasted in first place and I believe it's marked as pending not offline.
That "pending" is from the send tab - when you try to send a transaction and you're offline then cancel it.
The way to send it which is "right-click->pay" is different than the solution posted by ranochigo.

This thread however is an issue with locally saved transaction which was listed in the history tab marked as "Local".
Because after 4.0, users can now save a related unsigned transaction in the wallet which wasn't possible in 3.3.8 before.