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I roam around this forum although I seldom post and I notice that Bitvest and 777Coin upon checking are the two signature campaigns in the gambling industry with the longest campaign and with so many participants.

= Are they the only gambling sites that really make a profit from gambling
= Why other campaigns only last 2 to 5 weeks why they cannot sustain
= How can Bitvest and 777Coin sustain the campaign

even non-participants of these two campaigns can answer because I believe many of you here become part of the campaigns one time or another. 

If you were roaming around for long then you must know that it's not only these two but there are many around. This community is great for any bitcoin/crypto project so all the casino/bookies with crypto obviously starts from this community.

There are some bigger casinos than Bitvest and 777Coin are FortuneJack, sportsbet.io, bitcasino, stake etc. The full list may exit a list of 50 I guess.

Check this thread to view the signature campaigns here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=615953.0
Other campaigns that have been running for a long time now are bustadice, yolodice, playbetr, crypto.game, bitcasino

1. Definitely not. Keep in mind also that they don't pay participants the same as the others. If I'm not mistaken, they're one of the campaigns with the lowest rate.
2. Probably because they only plan to advertise for a short time to test if they can get enough users here. If they're not getting enough traffic from the campaigns, they'll end it.
3. Like I said, they have one of the lowest rates. We can also assume that they are driving traffic that generates enough revenue to compensate for the marketing expenses.

No they are not ghe only one. There are Sporsbet, Cryptgames, Bitsler (though it end already), Yolodice etc. Many gambling sites as reputable as them are existing and making profits as well.
It depends on every project on how long they want to run a campaign and how much they want to pay their participants. The fact that they are new also affects the duration of their campaign. Since bitvest and 77 are already a huge and popular site, they of course got a higher fund to sustain their campaign.
Simply because of their payment system. Their pay rate per post can be considered smaller than the usual and it becomes smaller as you gobon the lower tier. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying they are unfair or whatsoever. Maybe that is just their own way of making an effecctive advertising and yeah it works. Their campaign runs for couple of years already (I can't actually remember when since they made a new thread ;D) and still counting. Imagine the amount of profit it could bring for them.

all casino gambling sites have their own way of charging and attracting interest for gambling members, especially the campaign in this forum.

Whether a gambling site develops or not depends on the way the services offered by the gambling site.
From the OP's question, why do gambling sites (Bitvest & 777coin) or campaigns, continue to grow and are currently the longest on the Bitcointalk Forum.
If explained here, maybe I should write two pages for the two gambling sites, so you get curious.

You can read below, why the Bitvest & 777Coin site survives.

What makes bitvest Special? (https://www.cryptoversal.com/gambling/bitvest)

What makes 777Coin Special? (https://earnbitblog.wordpress.com/2015/12/12/777coin-casino-site/)

Maybe the two sources above can answer your doubts right now, they last a long time compared to other gambling sites.

It is their own teams to decide upon the schedule on campaign. Some gambling sites used to conduct campaigns for a long as bitvest and 777coin. Most of the gambling sites used to conduct campaigns for promotion at regular time interval. Just because of the campaign running for a long time doesn't mean they're the only successful gambling sites.

Bitvest and 777coin are not the only gambling sites with revenue, and there are even other platforms that are much loved by the community until now.
Maybe the new gambling site they will promote in a signature campaign as an experiment and lasts only 4 weeks ago was stopped with a plan to continue in the future, and of course now many new gambling sites that come up with a signature campaign don't last long.
Bitvest and 777coin have maintained a long time and as far as I know they have run 2 generations of Hhampu managers and now Brainboss,
And maybe with good traffic so they can maintain a campaign for many years with many participants but with this low enough maybe they can maintain it.

Like they've said it's not the only gambling site that's profitable with a signature campaign. There are other sites as well but their campaign thread aren't that active compared to Bitvest and 777Coin which gets bumped to the top every day due to the amount of open slots available. I remember a few gambling campaigns used to be active but eventually they had to lock the thread after it got spammed by applications while the campaign is full.

It is wrong perception, long campaign does not mean profit. Gambling sites with no long campaign or even without campaign does not mean that they are not making profit.


Every sites has their own budget and plan on how long they should run the campaign. 2-5 weeks only does not mean that they cant sustain, but it is related to effectiveness of the campaign.


Because they offer so low rate. If other sites offers the same rate as them, those 2-3 weeks campaign with higher rate may stand longer.

Those who stop their marketing campaign risks the loss of clients as well. Marketing is a constant battle because almost every day there are crypto casinos coming out to grab the loyal clients. Some of these casinos understand this battle and its the reason for their continuous marketing in the forum. They should be creative in advertising as well, crypto.games did some article posting on different forums too, i'm not sure if its effective but most probably its for SEO.

There is a lot of gambling signature campaign that is still running for a long time now compared to these two. And the requirements and payment are unlike another signature bounty. If you would compare they have tiers for participants depending on how long they have joined the campaign which has different rates per tier and it only has a limited spot. They are paying less compared to other bounties. Each casino has its own style and strategy in marketing and getting exposure. If the casino already gained the attention of gamblers and they think that a bounty campaign is not needed anymore, they can stop it anytime.

That is why some casinos are having different types of campaign like roobet who had a video and art campaign, coindragon had their mini facebook campaign, and etc.

Honestly, i really don't like this topic as gambling sites have their own freedom what platform they will use to advertise and promote their site. But I find it effective when gambling site choose bitcointalk as the medium, especially, if the site is cryptocurrency based. Looking at our forum's design, it has a thread that is mainly focused in gambling topics, and participants are free to advertise and talk about the site itself.

Going back, Bitvest and 777Coin perhaps are one of the longest running campaign here with tons of participants, that might be the reason why it caught your attention into thinking that these gambling sites are the top of the line.

thats because they owned by the same owner so both rules are identical . if one site accepts x number of participants we can expect that the other will do the same. aside from these two there other campaigns that accept good number of members but most of them already ended . gambling site or owners wont say if they are profiting or not thats why we cant answer your question accurately but i can answer based on what i think of  . they continue because they are profiting or they can continue because they need more players

we have many gambling sites that have campaign running for many years here .

Bustabit Yolo and cryptogames  is one of the example . Fortune jack if I'm not mistaken running already for 3 years there are just cutting their campaign right now.

Well Bitvest and 777Coin also pay a lot lower than most other signature campaigns, though this also usually means the participants are lower quality and have less visibility than some of the forum's highest quality members.

There's plenty of other casino signature campaigns also running right now, many of which have also been active for several years.

You can take a look at Mitchell's thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=615953.0

You'll see that almost every campaign that is currently active is owned by a casino, and some—including Crypto.Games, Sportsbet, YOLOdice, Bustadice, BitDice etc have been running for a long time.

Most of the signature campaigns that only last a few weeks don't have the marketing budget to sustain it long term, and they probably think they'll get massive results instantly. They don't understand that the campaigns need to run for a long time to build up visibility in older threads too.

Due to their low payment to participants that they were able to keep the campaign longer, they definitely still able to earn since they keep their marketing on going and might already have long supportive players. It's just hard to join in campaigns now since only few participants will be able to be accepted but their are many campaigns as well old signatures of casino that are still here in the forum, we need to keep our account and posting more active to be able to join campaigns as some campaign we're full in registration in an instant due to many who are hoping to get a weekly pay.

I'm proud to be part of Bitvest I would not even think of changing my signature for any other campaign I will try to last as long as I can and as long as Bitvest keep this campaign the campaign is continuous, I'm not thinking of the payment my motivation is to have continuous rewards of Bitcoin and besides some campaign only last 2 to 3 weeks after they have to vie for other campaign and there's a chance that you will not be picked, my only wish is they will not change the current rewards even if Bitcoin is moving up but any decision by management I'm ok with it.

My thoughts are that owner of these 2 sites (and i believe it's the same owner) is a person who managed to stock up alot of BTC, possible thousands or tens of thousands.
And as such, he probably has a chunk stored aside for promoton.
Mind you, early btc enthusiasts could very well own hundreds of thousand of bitcoin. And setting aside lets say 1000 BTC could fuel these campaigns for years.
It might not be 100% profitable for them, but it's a strategy that might pay up in the long run.

Also to note that Bitvest and 777Coin belong to the same owners (so they are sister companies) and they actually have no minimum requirement to join their campaigns, meaning to say,,, they have the lowest tier that can pay anyone who needs money to join. Good for them but that is also why they are probably the most visible:)

I am also curious about it but I think that it isn't the answer here there are so many other successful gambling sites that once had a signature campaign.
I think they just got what they was aiming for and doesn't want to continue spending more on signature campaign or they got fed up with disclaimers about their campaigns.
We couldn't really know their reason why did they decide to stop it but I believe that there are more campaigns that have some long run in this forum.

It is possible that these two casinos have lots of funds for this promotion.  Aside from the rate which is advantageous to the owner for the long run, I think they have a good amount of fund allocated for the campaign that can fuel the campaign for years regardless of the casinos making a profit or not.

It's also advantageous for signature participants, there comes a time that campaign in gambling is very scarce and those who choose or stay Bitvest and 777Coin are lucky this is my first campaign that I got paid in Bitcoin and I want it to continue because no other campaigns will choose a lower rank member like me.

i saw lightlord donated huge amount btc last time , it was related to covid charity thing . not only that but lightlord donated on this forum long time ago and earned him a tag as a donator.

  that only shows that they do have alot of funds and its noice if they already seperated the fund dedicated for the signature campaign only  . with the camapign running for many years they should earn good profits already . they are blessed becaused owners are genrous

Initially, I thought the same thing when I first found this forum. However, I did some research and observed many more similar campaigns running for a long period of time, but they were never bumped as often as these 2 campaigns.

Both Bitvest and 777Coin pay relatively low amounts even to their highest teirs when compared to popular campaigns like Chipmixer, Bustadice etc which is another reason. I do remember Hhampuz managing them both sometime back and the manager changed recently.

Those other gambling sites just do not know how important the advertising in this forum. This is the proof that a gambling site is solid and legit. It is always being managed right and advertising it here is one way of doing it. Other than that possibly bitvest and 777coin are not that likely pay that much but getting paid is not really the deal here. what important is that one can be able to learn new things and this is also a new environment. So adaptation, learning, and applying it in the future is part of a better individual in the future.

Bitvest and 777Coin are very consistent, their campaign was never stop although they change campaign managers couple of times already. However, it's not only these sites that has an active signature campaigns now, there are others that runs for over a year already ,like bustaidce, crypto-games, and playbetr, these campaigns differ from pay but Bitvest and 777Coin is the lowest paying campaign among them all AFAIK.

Lastly, I like to add, Roobet campaign seems to be going long term too.

Cause you have no idea how many campaigns are there. Bitsler lasted for years, so does bustadice, bitdice, yolodice campaigns are. Bitvest and 777coin campaigns are also there for long time but they are spending too low amount if you look at the pay per post. I was once a participant of bitvest for couple of months.

Very many gambling sites have succeeded in making a profit from gambling, but not all gambling sites choose promotions
with signature campaigns. Most gambling sites only promote briefly, because budgets are limited and indeed the planning
is short term. I just briefly joined Bitvest campaigns, but was very satisfied with the payment provided. No matter the
small fee, but gives chance for low ranks like me.

There are lots of online gambling in the crypto industry but only few of them who after made a signature campaign they became successful and it helps them to gather players all around the world. it seems to work for them after a few weeks of signature campaign test. Unlike the other online gambling site, no matter what they do they still got few players. maybe the reason is simple, they don't have something different things than the other sites do and the players stick at the site where they are comfortable.

I think I graduate from BitVest school, a few thoughts:
- Both are (very) old so they saved lots of Bitcoin;
- The payment is so low compared to other campaigns, I think I only managed to earn $5/week at that time;
- It's a form of giving back to the community.

You may be true about the long time period of the campaign and also the numbers of the participants. However, what is the other campaigns likely the Bustadice, Chipmixer, and also Yolodice? they are also long term period campaigns that are conducted with interesting payment.

You can check it carefully that actually not only those two campaigns that can last for more periods. You can check on the service thread and they offer some campaigns with several weeks.

They may be shorter but they have higher amounts of the payment than these two campaigns.

-No, there are still some few gambling campaigns that still run nowadays like Bitdice, Crypto.games, Bustadice etc. You have just simply missed them out.
-Campaign duration all matters with the budget, if a certain new company do launch  their signature and doesnt get any satisfying results then they will surely stop
or else they dont already have the funds to go further.
-They are on profit or simply means they do allocate budget into their advertising here into this forum also to those long-running campaigns atm.

I am not sure if you have intentionally missed taking the names of Fortunejack, Crypto games, freebitco or just missed looking at them! There are other casinos as well like betcoin.ag which has chosen to restart their signature campaign in recent times while their first signature campaign ran for good few years!

However, the payment is also an important factor for the casinos. Fortunejack paid 0.015 bitcoin each week for around 3 years for each of its participants while bitvest paid around 90 USD weekly! There are signature campaigns that pay 1200 satoshi to its participants. So a lot of factors are included.

Casinos that pay less, has higher chance to sustain for longer time. Probably that's the case for your casinos as you can see the above comparison!

You've missed some campaigns already like my current signature campaign. Maybe you should browse in services section longer :).

I don't think so because like I said, there are some long term campaigns around here already. Its just that Bitvest and 777Coin are the longest as of this moment. All long term campaigns are still getting profit for sure.

The fact that both of these campaigns have low payrate, that is also the reason why they can sustain it. The ratio of their profit to the total Bitcoin that they are paying are maybe in favor in profit so they can sustain it.
Another reason that I see why they can sustain it is the competition. Most of the new gambling sites can't sustain it because they don't get any traffic in their site but they are still paying the campaign participants. With so many gambling sites already, the competition is kinda tough for me.

Profit to total Bitcoin they are paying to their participants ratio. This is I think the answer why they can sustain it.

yes there are other long-running sig campaigns other than these 2 casino sites. however, it is commendable that they can sustain their campaigns for so long. and if you observed, their participants come and go, and yet they remain to continue their promotion here in the forum.
maybe of their relatively low rates but if you think about it, if you joined one of their campaigns, you have assurance that you will be paid week after week for long period and it is up to you if you will give up your position. and maybe yes, with their relatively low rates, they can afford to pay their participants.

You shouldn't judge the profitability of a gambling site based on its signature campaign.
The profitability can only be studied if they are accepting investment in the bankroll in which case the house's profits have to be published.

But in terms of Bitvest/777coin signature campaigns in specific, the reason they're so long running is that they really don't pay that much. There have also been campaigns paying exceptionally well that have lasted a long time. These might have different purposes of spreading such large sums. For example, mixers. Each venture can have different purposes.
Other casinos might want to cease their signature campaigns once they feel they've gotten a stable user base that they're satisfied with. Or some might just want to allocate big parts of their budget on promotion and consider signature campaigns important. There really aren't many conclusions to be drawn for the service just based on how long a campaign runs.

The owner of both these site will be having a stockpile of coins but the most important thing you need to understand is that they are not spending that much for advertisement and when you compare it to chipmixer you will understand the major difference for the amount they spent for promotion.

As mentioned earlier they are not spending that much compared to the rest of the campaigns but they understand that advertising will attract new users for their site and they are happy with the results and so is the reason it is a long running campaign.

I'd like to praise Hhampus, Brainboss and Lightlord for a well managed campaign although they are not paying that high they see to it that none of the members are spamming this forum just to earn a quick buck, not easy to have this big number of participants and do it for straight 80 weeks, I hope they won't change the rate but I'm planning to stay here as long as the campaign continues and if my health allow me.

Well since they are one of the oldest casinos running and campaign running as well let's assume that they have some loyal players from before and until now and because of their long run signature campaign they're still having more players on their website.

Also players can invest on their casino which can increase their fund and also they have a huge number of loyal players that's why they're still up until now.

They are doing great to keep a signature go that long.However they are not the only ones,I am at my signature since August or September 2018 and Sportsbet is still going strong.The same can be said for many other campaigns which run here in the forum.

They are just one of the many gambling websites that make good profit, you can see freebitcoin they have lambo hurricane promos it's mean they generated big profit to offer that.


When web gambling owners make promotions through signature campaign I believe they have calculated the costs to be incurred and also the profit to be gained, if it is not as expected then they will definitely try another forms promotions which they think will invite more people to gamble on the web.

There are other factors that make a sig camp run for a short time because they want to renew their website or also renew their signature code design to make it look more attractive.

Cost they have to pay can be one factor and the number of users on their website who come from this forum can also be a reason.

This is very rare these days but they obviously have the reasons. They are both trustworthy casinos, long om a scene with a large number of players and good profit. Promotion helps then additionaly and they keep reputation. It's said, how much you invest and give away that much you will get in return and in their case it's obviously the truth.

Because 777coin has maintain its dignity when it comes to online gambling. Its objective is to expand and improves it service to the comfort of its users. There is no way management will going to throw those things now that they are already motivated to keep all things up in proper.

I agree with you in all aspects you have said in your reply and I was thankful of joining and promoting too of the project.

It’s a good type of marketing as it keeps running throughout the year and then human psychology also changes and receptive when you keep seeing it on this forum that it is one of the long and everywhere you see their campaign members posting so somewhere over a period of time you remember it as a first name when you think of gambling. So, it has a long-term effect with such types of startegy and with the increased gambling sites coming up one has to be in the eyes of the users always.

In my opinion, the owners of Bitvest and 777coin are donator of this forum, of course he have a healthy financial situation.
I was even surprised at every delay payment is always given a bonus, from here I rate the owners of Bitvest and 777coin
very well and person with a lot of money. Even the signature campaigns of Bitvest and 777coin received low rank levels,
this is something I appreciate. So I'm not surprised Bitvest and 777coin including the longest campaigns with many participants.

Of course we have sportsbet, I forgot to mentioned it in my previous post, and I almost forget, we also have Bitcasino.io, it's been here for awhile already and are paying with decent amount to its participants. So there's only one reason, a signature campaign remains active because they are gaining something on their way of marketing.

Since they've proved themselves as a long running gambling site and long running signature campaign I think many players not just played on their website but also invested to them also I think they bought cheap bitcoins before that's why now they're pretty financially stable.

They run the longest signature campaign in this forum since they are targeting the huge volume of bitcoins users here as well they are serious with their marketing their platform since the more longer you advertise your platform the more chances for it to get notice by the people. Remember the competition is so thigh especially there are new casino popping out of nowhere and it will be their downfall if they don't do anything to make them visible in more longer times.

I think that both campaigns are the longest, because both gambling sites gets a lot of response and attract lots of players from forum.

Take a look on both campaign rules and spreadsheets. They do not pay much, compared to others - means their budget allows to last longer. Their rules encourage to post as much as possible, means their ads appear much more than others - means attracting more people. While others ask to make 15-25 posts per week, Bitvest and 777Coin participants usually make 40+ posts per week. Plus number of participants is greater than in other campaign. Also, as I understand, both sites own same people, so for them, their ads appear twice often than other gambling sites.

If the gambling website can manage their money and run promotions, I think the site can have much profit so they can run promotions such as from the signature campaign for a long time.
If they have much bitcoin that they bought from the cheap price, that will help them survive in the crypto gambling industries, and they can also pay the participants in bitcoin.
Bitvest and 777coin are one of the oldest gambling websites that have been run from a long time ago, so that is no surprise that they can still survive in any situation because they have the experience to give the services to their members.
I think that will not happen with Bitvest and 777coin because I am sure that the other gambling site will also do the same to get more members.

-No, there are still other gambling sites out there that you can see if you really roam in this forum,
-The reason why they only last for a short period of time is different from one another, most of them don't able to achieve their goal by gathering more players, but some gambling sites are big enough that they only need to promote their new events or functions in their website.
-They sustain the campaign because it is part of their marketing, they continue to market their website and gather more players which are really effective that's why they are able to sustain it even with running longer than any project.

Bitvest and 777coin has more participants and more paid posts compared to other signature campaign that is why you are seeing most of their post but it doesn't mean they are the only gambling campaigns were running.Bustadice,yolodice,bitcasino and lot other campaigns are also active for years now.

In addition to what you have said, Both casino was owned by lightlord( a big time donator in the forum) which can sustain the maintenance of the casino and also the owner has a huge bank roll. The pay rate on both campaigns is very low that's why most of the participants are leaving once they saw a window of opportunity for other high paying rate campaign. As an evidence about my statement above. They decided to do first come first serve to there rules so that participants will be benefits for a good pay rate once they stay on the campaign for a long period of time.

They'll able to get those loyal participants to keep playing and keep supporting them, they are in this business for such a long time and that's the advantage that they've got for providing good services.



That's right, promotions and good advertisement makes them being visited by new and old gamblers it's paid good for the life of the business.

Casino's and gambling sites are really profitable if done right, as you can see many of the players bet big amounts of money sometimes even reach to millions, and it's not like their doing a campaign for free. They also can benefit from it because we advertise and promote it, especially that it has been around for a very long time, so it's not difficult to convince some crypto enthusiast to try it.

I agree that these two online casinos have been holding signature campaigns for a long time now. On the contrary, there are more online casinos that are also holding signature campaigns here for many years.
These casinos differ with their paid rate percentage and I must say that most online casinos do signature campaigns but some prefer to do different ways to introduce and let their casinos be known.
That is to say is not the basis of the security and legitimacy of online casinos and signature campaigns.

You weren't paying attention. In fact, there are many bounty campaigns from well-known and long-existing casinos. They just tend to rarely recruit new members. Here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5241938.msg54805114#msg54805114) you can see which online casinos have finished their bounty campaigns and which are still doing so.

True, it hadnt just bumped if OP is fan on checking out Services section then he would definitely see Bitvest and 777coin on where they do always have some spots for participants.

Frankly speaking they do had low pay rate compared to others thats why its not surprising that people who do join just simply just jump to other campaign which does have bigger pay

which would result into new empty spot and thats the time their thread would be bumped again but if we do try to look around  and on this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=615953.0

we can really say that there are lots existing for long years.

I understand that there are a lot who had already jumped out of their campaign because of the relatively low pay as compared to others. But I can attest that if you are one of the participants like me, you have no worries about the pay as lightlord is always paying his participants. And in my opinion, this is much better than those token-paying campaigns, in which, you have no assurance if they will give your token share or if their tokens will hit the exchanges.
And these 2 casinos are already established in the forum, and so I considered them as trustworthy. And if you have any issues playing on these sites, you can just on their thread about your issues and it will be resolved accordingly.

Many different gambling sites are on this forum currently, and not because they dont have the signature campaign, it does not mean that they are not capable of running something like that. Many other gambling sites are considered stronger and better than bitvest and 777coin. And because of that fact, I believe that they have other ways to sustain their marketing campaign. Bitcointalk.org is not the only place containing online gamblers. They can have a Facebook program or a google programs. Or they can use the money for KOL in order to tell good things about them

I have never joint these 2 campaigns before. Dont know why lol. But if I have a chance, working with them is kinda cool somehow

Not only because they have many participants  , they are always on the top because there is always available spot on their campaign unlike other long running campaign that always full and no vacant  spot for other participants and only bumping once a week when they send the payment .

OP doesn't notice other thread because no one is applying and its always full.

Yes that's true they are always visible because there are always opening some leaving the campaign for another one, but if you are already on top of the tier you would not want to leave the campaign just for an additional bitcoin because if you want to comeback you cannot claim your old spot you will have to start all over again.

I don't know when Bitvest and 777coin ran a signature campaign but clearly when I just new to this forum since 3 years ago those gambling sites have ran signature campaign although the pag rate has been changing at now. And I just think that those are an old gambling site that never had a bad accusation so as there will be many gambler who favorited these gambling sites.

This is why they still run a signature campaign in this forum although the pay rate is really small if we compare with the current bitcoin's price. But you have to know also if there are some gambling site who already run in several years like bustadice, yolodice and bitdice that still run until now.

There was a time when the ICO trend was so strong that users in this community would rather promote those than Bitcoin-paying signature campaigns.

But the catch there was that with so many ICO projects, majority of them were scams or copied ones with no unique nor long term development plans. That made all those ICO token payments worthless after several months. 777Coin and Bitvest were two of the most solid remaining campaigns way back then.

OP noticed Bitvest and 777Coin because of their visibility with many active participants scattered on various topics here and all the participants are doing good in contributing on so many discussions I guess praises should go to the past and current managers Hhampuz and of course BrainBoss for picking the right people in the campaign, right project, right managers, right participants create a successful campaign.

it's not that they are the only one making a profit from their gambling site but because they pay too little to their signature campaign participants that they could continue running their signature campaign.

because a signature campaign with decent pay is not cheap. besides, every gambling site has a different amount of funds alocated for its signature campaign and if the gambling site gets enough consistent daily traffic on their website they usually decide that a signature campaign is no longer needed unless their allocated funds for their signature campaign runs out.

it's probably because of the big profit they get from their gambling site and they only need to spend so little for their signature campaign compare to others.

Yeah its a kind if success for the campaigns, hopefully more people also felt that in a same way so people can visit those sites and Play there.Hhampuz stepped down from managing these two campaigns few months before due to his busy schedule I guess. Currently Brainboss is doing good job as well.

im a member of one of the campaign which is 777coin  and your words are heart warming , thanks . its true that my post are scattered not only on this single board but also to other boards  because i want the site to become more visible

.  im kinda flattered on what you say , i know im not perfect and i dont know if im the right person for this project but im doing best . my only message to my co workers is that do your best too , dont waste the kindness and oppurtunity given to us by our bosses .

Kudos to the  lightlord for picking the right managers to handle their business.

With the kind of advertisement that brought by participants, the business are really being noticeable
it's a contributed efforts between the owner and all those participants and manager who are dealing in checking
if everything was been done accordingly.

All gambling sites profit, otherwise they would be closed, but they may prefer to advertise on other platforms or don't advertise at all..

There's at least 15 gambling sites that are currently running a signature campaign.. some of them prefer to pay more to less members.. There are two types of strategy: one prefer quantity and the other prefers to be vinculated to reputable members.. I think both strategies works..

btw the 777's campaign should be one of the oldest campaigns here..

^ Probably, that there is the oldest one among them.
777coin - Dec. 24, 2018
Bitvest - Dec. 24, 2018
Bustadice - Dec. 04, 2017
Yolodice - Jan. 17, 2017
Crypto.games - June 6, 2015
Sportsbet.io - June 21, 2018
Bitcasino - July 24, 2018
..these are the active campaign that I have seen, I did not include year 2020 and 2019. I think the oldest one is Cryptogames. They had a small number of participants but the payment did not consider as low.

777coin - Jun. 16, 2014: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=654009.0

^ Oh! It is my bad, I did not know they had various signature threads.
I cannot imagine how good enough the rate per post before, but probably before that is the same value as of now.
Probably lightlord has seen the improvement and have a good traffic in the forum running a signature campaign. Nevertheless, regarding the low payment, the reason participants come and go.

For those people who have been here on this forum for a while would have surely see on how this campaign handled very well and able to sustain for years.

This is much more better compared to those bounties that do pays you off some shit coins, even though they payrate is not really that high but there are people

who do still prefer on joining this up yet they do know the longevity of this one that cant really be easily be attained by most campaigns in the market that do only last up

2-3 weeks specially the new ones.

They have differentiated payment in the bounty campaign and pay more to those who came there one of the first.
This is why the payment for the last participants is very small and people in the campaign often change. This as you said leads to a constant update of the topic due to new messages.

Well yeah its also a part of it yet bumping up thread will most likely because of signature application, payment update or any other signature campaign instruction.

These campaigns are the only ones that do have Tier-kind of system where payout does depend on which tier you do able to join on.Unlike any other campaign

which all rates are equal or flat but it doesnt matter though yet as a participant and you've been selected then you do agree into those terms.

Well, how they wil recognize the community if they dont run signature campaign? Gambling sites that becomes popular and to be trusted by the community are those making good PR on the community. Relation between the gambling company and the community will give a good rate to them. However, --running signature campaign in a short period of time, dont have any guarantee that they will become popular and more gamblers to visit. Just look at roobet, they are not only focus on signature campaign, they had many promotions and contest out there, they become now very popular.

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The Bitvest and 777coin are continuesly running signature because the owner lightlord know how potential to have ads here in the forum. Sometimes gambling owners did not know this marketing strategy. They only think and expect to have an effect in a short period of time they never know the more time you exist here the more will getting exposure.

Its understandable that gambling site owners will really be that mindful when it comes to marketing expenses but we know that its a must thing to be done for them to be known.
Also, as a cryptocurrency type of business then you should always look for the best place to make out some marketing and this forum alone is the best place for crypto traffic
and next would be in other mediums like in social media.Its up to the team if they would consider on making out additionals when it comes to marketing on giving out promotion
and bonuses or competitions.It all sums up because success cant really be just easily obtained on a business.

If op will just navigate here in forum he will notice some offer long time campaign. Many have answered Op questions that mostly campaign almost done their promotion they have also allotted budget on promoting their gambling site. Also, it is their own marketing strategy on how they can promote their site. That's the most reasons it's visible because of the available spot while others campaign is almost full and not accepting new. 

No.

I guess when they have gotten some players already then they stop their campaign.
Or on the other hand, signature campaigns are not successful, hence they stop and look for other ways to promote their site.

Their payment is not. competitive to be honest, nothing against them, but obviously, if you pay little then you can sustain your campaigns for many years.

1. No, not only this two casinos making profit from gambling. But yeah. they're one of the oldest casinos here. There left not too much old casinos with sig campaigns on this forum.

2. It's easy to answer: they just paying from 1/2 up to 1/3 of an average rate btc per post. With such strategy it's easy to have many people wearing your signature (even for 4 buks per week) and promoting you  :)

I made a reply on greenspin.bet freshest gambling casino. Yes, this is new and they had made cool offer though if in my opinion if it will be compared to bitvest and 777coin then pretty sure this two has the edge over new casino platform. This is why I consider the best gambling casino so far here. Just observe the bounty campaigns being made by these two gambling casino, relatively the longest so far and they accepted many users to promote the project that includes high rank and reputable users here. The best so far gambling casino goes to 777coin and bitvest.

No,

Check Bustadice (http://"https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2519710"), it has been active since 2017 around the same time when 777coins and Bitvest started. Since these two campaigns accept Full Member and Member that is the reason you see a lot of posts.


It fully depends on the owners of Bitcoin casino to decide their target audience. If they want audience from Bitcointalk they would only concentrate this forum, If they want to concentrate on Google they will spend money on creating backlinks to rank high.

They’re a fairly low paying signature campaign, I was in it a few years ago & they repeatedly had delays paying, when I say delays I mean literally over 2 months without paying their campaign participants. I’m sure the sites earn well but I would never work with them again.

Bitvest and 777coin campaign had been managed by several managers  already and ive been a participant before for long weeks on Tier A. Yeah its low but considerable knowing that they are lasting for too long
compared on most new gambling projects out there.

Profitability talks then for sure they are making money because they wont spent something if they wont get any returns or making benefits.For people who do like to join then its up to their
choice if they would agree on said rates.

Only a few campaign that still running after all the years.Only to those who do able to get benefits into their forum advertising.

There are four campaigns that pause or stopped their campaign this week, this is one of the thing I avoid hopping from one campaign to the other without guaranty that it will last a few weeks, some campaign only last 2 to 4 weeks and you have to look for another campaign, and you are lucky if you are picked with so many campaigners applying for the slot.

That's normal thing if the gambling sites think that its not working and  they don't have enough funds to continue advertising they will stop it. It is really hard  to know if what campaign will last for long since all of them is also looking for good return that they can have for having advertisement. if they can get demand that they are looking they  will continue the campaign for long.

That's what makes me want to stay on Bitvest, but new gambling site should still do a campaign even for two to three weeks this is to create awareness, there are gambling sites that still on, that have done two to three weeks campaign but if gamblers are to choose or to start gambling they will go for old sites with a long term campaign, because they want to be on a right track.

No wonder they are good and well established platform. No gambling site can run such huge campaign for so long if they don't have a good volume users.
But again, advertisement is not everything. The highest grossing crypto gambling site in amount and profit never advertises itself. It is hard to find it but when you do, it is hard to leave it. It's like it has a secret cult of it's own.

I think Bitvest and 777Coin are the best and long lasting ones. Every now and then new campaigns come and go after few weeks or months, so it is not a wise decision to leave the campaign only to get few more satoshis. I have been in Bitvest for a long time and before that i was in fortune jack campaign in its early days for more than a year. I do not like to switch campaigns and stick to one until it is stopped.

When it comes to loyalty of users then thats always been an issue because not all would really be having that kind of stuff.When they do saw that there are campaigns which pays better then
majority will really transfer and do take advantage on that one.

I agree into your point though that its better to stick up with campaign that you know that it would last for long but telling on which one then thats the hardest part and you wouldnt know.

Overall, it isnt really that something to be serious about because joining in campaigns isnt a job after all.

Low paying + payment delays. Nice. Now we see the real reason why it's last for so long  :)

And the problem, that even if they decrease payment rate in two times, there still be enough people to work for them. One of the important points for me, is how casino paying for it's own advertisers (like us). If they greedy even for marketing, then there will be nothing to do with them.

Yes I agree I think most of the signature campaign participants here have already worked with them (me included)
Well I agree with most of the opinions above, I think their business model lasts mainly because of the low rates of their campaigns.

You are totally wrong here. There may be fee issues in the past for delay in payments but the participants were always paid. Since Hhampuz and now CryptopreneurBrainboss took over the campaign management, there has been no delay in payments.

Let's just be real and accept the fact that Bitvest and 777Coin were both managed well by its campaign managers and their companies as well. And with that being said, they were also the ones whom are, AFAIK, the lowest payment rate among all signature campaigns that run in the forum (with bitcoin or usd as the mode of payment ofc).
With that, most users in here whom wanted a long term campaign often join BItvest and 777coin, while some prefer to join it just because some high-paying campaigns doesn't accept them, with whatever reason it could be.

Hence, it would be normal to have many participants with the fact that you pay low, and with such low payment do also have a balanced money to make the campaign run in the long-term.

1. No, lol. They aren't the only gambing site that are making profit. Most of the well known casinos over here are making profit!
2. Because they think they have advertised enough or they aren't attracting any more "new" players from the forum. They think it is better to focus advertisement somewhere else.
3. From the profit they make from their casino.

Just looking at how long a signature campaign runs isn't the best way to know if a casino is active or not. You might want to look at their ANN thread. CryptoGames also has one of the most longest signature campaign (they also had an old thread, which probably got buried  by now  :) )

Bitvest and 777 coin are really one of the long-term signature campaigns in this forum because they are obviously earning profit from their own gambling site, since they are one of the famous gambling site in this forum that makes them last long and pay their participants with fairly low amount of rewards.

I think it may be part of a long term strategy to gain visibility and become de facto the best known casino on this website. The campaign doesn't cost them a lot, but could have huge returns in the long run.

Every gambling site has their own marketing strategies and they chose what they think is best for them. Since Both bitvest and 777coin are running their campaigns here for many years, this does mean that they are getting good traffic from this forum. Also this shows that they are making good profits and hence they have funds with them to use it effectively through campaigns.

Well, you could say that but it is entitely the team behind decides to continue having a signature ad campaign to run or to stop. The reason may be that the participants in both campaign are active in posting but it's not the only casino that has signature campaign running. Both casinos campaign is up for a long time and some did stop for some reason also it doesn't mean that the casinos doesn't earn profit even if they don't have signature campaign running anymore.

Those two mentioned are the oldest campaign on the forum thereby they re here for client maintenance, mean while they are the lowest paying rate of campaign in the forum so far, infact many users here have participated in the campaign before so its one of the oldest campaign ever.
Check every corner of the forum and you done notice the appearance of other signature of other casino like crypto.game, roobet, bitcasino, sportbet, and many more paying better than 777 and bitvest campaigns.