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Trump is preparing to ban TikTok

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtT5r6VIeB4

I hate communists but to be fair to China ... isn't the USA  doing the same thing via Google,Facebook etc ... ?

Apps should not be banned they should put just a note "hey if you use this app you risk being monitored by the gov of China,Usa etc"

It's bad for the economy ...

The web has become very very regulated ... ( In a few years decentralized web will change the internet ... and things will be back to normal when govs couldn't ban anything)

Th U.S can own nuclear weapons but would intervene when some other country tries to create one especially when they are not on cordial terms with such nation. There is political tension between both the U.S and China and as such they would not want their citizens to be monitored by them. It is also a means of hurting the growth of such apps, they've already lost a huge market in India.

Where would such a note be put? On the app or the store where it's downloaded from? Even if it was possible to send out such a warning, it would have very little effect, most people are not aware of how valuable their data is and would not mind it being snooped on.

Anything on the Internet is susceptible to hacking. Should this forum have a statement "product of the US and amazon - only as secure as they and smf are"?

Last I checked China was capitalist and even more corrupt than the US... Banning a website is something China does, do you not remember the great firewall of China being mentioned - looks like trumps got a crush...

Nothing is private this days ... privacy is dead  ...

Before you download the app they could put a note ...

Well, there are warnings like that when you install it but as @Upgrade00 says it, they don't care since they doesn't know how valuable that information. They doesn't care that there are people are even dance in front of their cameras nude. Even though it is reported that TikTok is being used by China to snoop some information, it didn't stop.



Well, some users of bitcoin and other information regarding them is still private.

Not really if you move the btc they can find you easy if they want to ...

All you have to do is buy something with btc or exchange it to fiat ( does not matter if you use someone else bank account etc ... )



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Juggy777 has already made a thread about this ban by Trump for the Tiktok app on the Politics & Society.

Trump has declared that he’ll ban Tiktok over privacy concerns!!! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5265976.msg54916323#msg54916323)

Look if they have proven that the app of Tik Tok is spying on their users I think they have the right to ban it because first of all it is violating the privacy of its citizens and it is one of their first rights being a citizen, if the government doesn't act properly then they are basically not interested in protecting their rights. This is really not about the protection of their economy or the internet being regulated but the protection of their rights. And also I'm still wondering why these app stores like Apple and Google are still keeping Tik Tok available for download even if they have proven it spying to their users.

it is Trump's strategy to be trusted by the public that he is a type of nationalist person, on the pretext that tik-tok can steal user data so Trump is now banning China from trading and influencing US society from the influence of tiktok, of course this happens because there is trade war between America and China. but indeed Trump is a very nationalist person.

The ban was a justifiable action and I think that it is a good thing that he did that, the evidences that TikTok is taking sensitive data without the consent of the individual is very alarming. The fact that there is a tension between these two countries makes this a serious matter.

That is the most decent move that they can do, if the app does not properly and explicitly displays that they are taking data of individual users means that they are breaching the privacy, the case is similar to Facebook and other social media platforms but they atleast have the decency of making sure that the user is aware that they are collecting their data.

Sometimes I think that the web should be even more regulated,because Google,Amazon and all the other tech giants are using their monopoly to destroy the competition AND they are tracking us all the time.
I don't think that Trump will ban TikTok,he just wants to move the attention away from him and blame China for everything.This is just smoke and mirrors.First it was Huawei and now TikTok.Maybe after 2 months,he will find another Chinese company to blame for something,maybe Alibaba or ZTE. ;D

He is really defending its people's privacy and security. We all know that US and China do really have a lot of conflict especially in the economy.

China is all about domination, he is all about being a businesses-minded country, and they want to dominate even the market and economy. This simple banning of Tiktok app in the US can really help the economy of China somehow go down. US is a big country and there are a lot of tiktok users in their country so probably it will cause a huge impact in China.

This is a good approach of Trump to affect the economy of China, war is not only about using massive destruction, it is also the economy, a country should need to attack and prioritize.


If you are talking about privacy, it is really hard to protect it especially if you are not aware about the apps that you are using.

You should inspect and check the security of an app before downloading and using it with your own personal information and details.

This economic war between US and China will surely create a big impact to its community as people are relying in the use of social media apps in their everyday lives.

Most of the people are getting entertained with using this Tiktok app, this is also their tool to showcase their talents in the social media without even knowing that their privacy is already unsafe.

We all know that internet is really powerful especially to those youth who are ignorant about the hazards of social media platforms. Be careful on accessing other apps not only tiktok, not only in China, but you should always check the legitimacy and security of an app before using it.

And before that really happens, Microsoft will buy the US version of it and collect your data this way.  https://edition.cnn.com/2020/08/02/tech/microsoft-tiktok/index.html 

If something makes that much money, nobody with a sense for businesses will let the chance to make even more go to waste

What can you expect, China and USA are not in good terms, anything that china produce and they will get a market in the USA, I think USA would think of banning that as they want to market their product, I think there are also online apps created from US that are ban in china, so it's alright, that's how these two are treating each other.

I like TiktTok personally, not that I am uploading videos on it but i just want to follow beautiful women, lol..

So this means no american beauty in TikTok anymore.

After the incident of closing consulates between the United States and China, Trump Sounding will be banned from ticking. Although American awareness is a bit too late because China has protected the country from the influence of foreign-owned applications that are popular and have their own application versions. I think Trump needs a lot of news diversion options for the poor handling of covid in America. The escalation of conflict between the United States and China has intensified, raising fears of an eruption between the two countries. But this is far from happening as long as the covid outbreak did not get worse and the results of the poll said support for Trump increased.

Trump thinks the app is a threat to us national security CCP has a direct connection with this app so action will be taken against the app there are countless such companies in the united states but they may have provided information to the chinese government behind the scenes. The data that is being provided includes facial recognition address phone number and contact address so we are going to solve this issue this only applies to defend their rights.

These three lines describe the situation quite precisely.
I don't think thats the right decision of Trump and neither I think a lot of people will be happy to vote for him after such dumb regulation
And of course this will affect the economy in a negative way, for US at least

Maybe he didn't like the videos like this: https://twitter.com/BlakePavey/status/1288818865846120449   ;D

On the serious side, Trump is getting annoyed by this and that and he just thinks he will ban and everything will be OK.
TikTok (Chinese surveillance) is just a response to Facebook (American surveillance). So why just don't ban both?

All the news tell that Microsoft (yet another American surveillance giant) wants to buy at least the US operations of TikTok. Will Trump also ban Microsoft? Or he's just trying to help lower the price?

And also I'm still wondering why people are siding with a spyware app even if it is proven doing it, I guess still a lot of clout chasers will be affected in the US if the app was totally banned. But judging from the news I have been seeing there might be a chance that Tik Tok might not be banned in the US at all since their owner is interested in selling the US "portion" of their app/content to a foreign owner and Microsoft is the one strongly pursuing its acquisition, I think in this way both sides will have a win-win scenario removing any kind of doubt that the app will be spying in their citizens again.

Interesting if the purchase will go thru. Because if that will materialize, then banning it will not happen. But I guess, users themselves should be cautious on what they are sharing in this app. Millennials especially are too careless and lots of times, they share everything in social media. So in case something goes awry, it is only them to blame.

What will happend after the tiktok ban? All the tiktoker users will lose their product placements  ;D ;D ;D
I don't believe that will happen it's against the liberty of expression and liberty of information. I think that users will found a way to continue to use it.

banning on this app happend before and now the time has come that usa will do the same .  its okay for me if theyl ban the app but banning google and other more useful app can affect the performance of the country negatively .

why they need to banned the app when the reason is that they are only monitored whoever uses it? thats already a loss of privacy to the users and they could enjoy it . about privacy matters , apps like tiktok do requires an access to our gadget so this rule are always included on the terms of use or on the disclaimer before we install them.

Researchers have found that TikTok App is being used to attack and have an access in your personal data,  so I think Trump is making a good choice here for banning Tiktok app. But I think every sites and apps always have our own personal data because we always enter our real names, address, emails, contact numbers, and especially our credit card numbers. So I think we don't have the chance to protect our privacy.

You can't ban websites in the US without causing a massive outrage about their free speech being violated, so I personally don't see this happening. It's the same reason why The Pirate Bay is banned by most european countries' ISPs but not in the US. And now that the issue of ISPs has been brought up, they are the ones who ultimately execute these kind of bans, but only if they are forced by government order.

This ban is obviously going to hurt Bytedance's revenue, because most people don't know how to use proxies to unblock sites.

You have a point. I've heard some news about it, and in my opinion, it should be right for the Government to ban TikTok App if proven to be a spy..I wish not just in USA but globally, because I believe that one of this days it may cause trouble to everyone who got addicted to this app. So, its better for the Government to act now and protect its people than be sorry later.

He only want an absolute control. He did it before on Huawei a China product now sincr tiktok is a chinese product that tackles the privacy of users then its an alarming thing for Trump. He only wanted US control over privacy. Hate to admit but both country are trying to pose dominance over all the major and minor countries. Its easy to control everything if they can watch and see everything and US dont want to be under their radar easily. Tiktok users are so many and he knows it could be an advantage for China later on.

I don't think so that this is a good idea because right now the application TikTok is one of the most popular for entertainment there are a lot of people right now are getting some leisure time and they want to enjoy and not get bored because of the pandemic outbreak right now are happening. One of the best ways is still to support the human needs in this outbreak and does not get too much focus on the things that are not related to survival in this economy.


Even in using social media you do not have privacy too how about the Google, Facebook, Twitter, and other social media platform does need to have the information if you don't want to put for info it's up to you but sometimes they are using this now as a communication tool so they want to provide some information right here with the internet of things (IoT) I think no information is now hidden unless you are in the forest with no gadgets and internet.

China has been banning different apps in their country, so I think the US can also do that. There are already some articles/news circulating that TikTok is spyware, which is also not impossible at all. It can be a threat to their people, so if it's indeed true, they can do it to protect them. I have seen a lot of Americans using that app, especially young and teens. But knowing that a lot of them are really into TikTok and have already gained so many followers, influence, and also money through that app, of course, we will see them against banning the app. But according to the US general manager, TikTok won't be going anywhere so I think there's a higher possibility that Trump won't ban it. And we can't deny that we also enjoyed some videos from that app.

TikTok is now so much popular app among all over the world. USA doing the same thing via Google,Fb. This is related. I think not a big impact will face Chinas economy, If USA ban TikTok.

All apps are monitoring you in some way or another the issue at hand is that the relationship between the US and China is tense right now and Trump does not want China to be monitoring their citizens just as they do their own already on China.

Obviously this is not being proposed to actually protect US citizens and their privacy otherwise they will go after Google and any of the major social media apps available for download, this is just a way to try to diminish the influence of China something that seem impossible to do at this point.

I do not understand what is the difference between banning an app and banning some other company from doing business with USA. I get that tiktok might be collecting data but lets be honest facebook has been doing that for YEARS and people use that too?

Right now, facebook knows every single detail about my life and gives me ads according to what they think would work for me to buy something.

Or just on 2016 we have seen that facebook got ads from political campaigns and basically Cambridge Analytica used all of that info and data they got from facebook to manipulate the elections and spent over a million dollars a day to change the ideas of people to either not vote for Hillary (still acceptable election move) or move for Trump. That is why I believe it is vital importance that if you care about privacy, you do that for all companies.

China has been doing this banning politics for a long time now. Google is not accessible in China, not even with VPN. Facebook and whatsapp is not accessible either. China has their own version of such apps like yendex, Baidu and wechat. So why your ass is burning when the world is striking back? Do you know that it is mandatory to submit user details to the government if the company is operating from China?

I heard ByteDance is seriously thinking of moving their entire operations to London. I hope it happens! This way they will come out from the Chinese regulation!

Their would-be different apps that will get replaced with Tiktok, but since now trump is in no mood to leave anything related to China, so after trade now it seems to apps etc. Since elections are coming soon so there would be many such things happening around China now it seems. Will need to see how people reacts to it.

Already lots of Chinese apps along with the TiKTok has been banned in India https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mobile_apps_banned_in_India (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mobile_apps_banned_in_India) .  And America will probably do the same thing. While the byteDance wants to move TikTok headquarters out of China https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/internet/bytedance-may-move-tiktok-headquarters-out-of-china-as-india-bans-app/articleshow/76880204.cms (https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/internet/bytedance-may-move-tiktok-headquarters-out-of-china-as-india-bans-app/articleshow/76880204.cms) also the Zoom will move of china as well https://www.forbes.com/sites/kateoflahertyuk/2020/08/03/zoom-just-made-a-major-china-move-amid-tiktok-ban-fears/#6b39c964176a (https://www.forbes.com/sites/kateoflahertyuk/2020/08/03/zoom-just-made-a-major-china-move-amid-tiktok-ban-fears/#6b39c964176a)

It's difficult to know how much of what Trump says at the moment is something that he means to follow through with, and how much is just something that he thinks will sound popular with an election just around the corner.  I'm sure he thinks it looks good to sound tough over China, just as the Chinese like to sound tough over America. But a lot of it is empty posturing, and it can be hard to differentiate between this, and threats that are actually followed through on.

I wouldn't declare it dead just yet, but it's in hospice on a pretty high dose of morphine. 

If you broadcast your life on social media sites like FB, Twitter, and all the other ones you can kiss all of your privacy goodbye.  It is still possible to live under the radar if you don't have a big internet presence.  Now as far as this TikTok thing is concerned, why does it surprise anyone that Trump would do something like this?  It's Donald Trump we're talking about for fuck's sake.  And frankly it wouldn't bother me one bit if he did ban TikTok, although I'm not sure I'd like the precedent it would be setting. 

That is definitely true.  I recall him telling America that he was going to send in the national guard to quell the protests in Seattle (when they had that "autonomous zone"), which was followed by no action whatsoever.  I'm actually glad he didn't call out the troops, but he lost some credibility in my eyes by barking empty threats. 

It's also important to note that Trump can't just do whatever he wants to do, regardless of what he says.  He's got Congress and the Senate to deal with, plus all of the other government branches that put checks and balances on his power.  It's a damn good thing, too.

Has the ban occured yet? the app who tracks the most info by far. People really need to educate themselves.

Trump has made the right decision tick tok videos do a lot of social misconduct not just tracking. These apps steal users' information and do so in secret users are sending all that information to servers located outside India. That's why secret information from one country is easily smuggled to another which is why Trump has imposed a survey on the ban.

I believe that Tiktok has already banned now in US?correct me if i'm wrong.
i think it does as far as i remember reading a thread here and watched in News .

Not yet, and never going to be. Because Tiktok is now negotiating with US companies to sell their US tiktok brand to them so they are not going to be banned completely but until now there is no clear decision has been taken.

The only people i follow on TikTok are US based content creators. This woukd suck big time, honestly.

Officially, US said it banned the app because of security concerns. Specifically, it said the app was a “threat to  sovereignty and integrity.” Mike Pompeo also alluded to security concerns being the impetus for banning TikTok.