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Title: Double posting of a thread
Post by: Little Mouse on August 04, 2020, 02:38:56 AM
LFC_bitcoin has posted this on meta- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5266445.0
And posted the same message on Beginners and Help also. Purpose of creating thread on both board is good, it will help members to be secured. But is this allowed in the forum? Double posting a thread? I am asking this as general, nothing to do with LFC_bitcoin here, no offense to LFC_bitcoin.


Title: Re: Double posting of a thread
Post by: mk4 on August 04, 2020, 02:44:19 AM
There's probably no sort of "standard" rule for this, but I think in this case it's a reasonable excuse to post on both sections. The topic is best for the Meta section, but at the same time there might be a good number of people that don't read the Meta section at all.


Title: Re: Double posting of a thread
Post by: cryptoaddictchie on August 04, 2020, 02:59:37 AM
LFC_bitcoin has posted this on meta- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5266445.0
And posted the same message on Beginners and Help also.
As in same content with similar words and exact topic? Or with different approach but has alike subject? s far as Forum rule concern:

12. No duplicate posting in multiple boards (except for re-posting it in the local language boards if it's translated).

Not specifically mentioned if the latter Ive said is applied. Unless the content has no difference with context.

but at the same time there might be a good number of people that don't read the Meta section at all.
But if its for the purpose of viewers, maybe its okay(?) but referring to the rules we could somehow say its not allowed unless used local translation for duplicating the post.


Title: Re: Double posting of a thread
Post by: Yogee on August 04, 2020, 03:20:16 AM
I'd rather have it posted in the Beginner's section in a format similar to how the unofficial rules are posted in different boards.

The Main thread is posted on Meta (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0) while the other threads in different boards links it to the main thread. Example https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1042322.0

Maybe quote the first thread as another option if you insist on showing its content in another thread.


Title: Re: Double posting of a thread
Post by: krishnaverma on August 04, 2020, 04:20:59 AM
I am not doubting the intention of the member doing this as he posted something useful to members. This should be avoided in my opinion. He should choose the section which is most appropriate for this and then post it there only.

Just imagine same member replying on both threads with almost the same information as his perspective will be same. This will be waste of time for a lot of members and also the forum resources.

Another downside to this is that if this is allowed by forum admin and moderators, many other members might repeat the same thing with may be different intentions not beneficial for the forum. Would be interesting to see the reply of other senior members here.


Title: Re: Double posting of a thread
Post by: CryptopreneurBrainboss on August 04, 2020, 04:27:32 AM
My opinion, irrespective of what the purposes of the thread is (which is good though), technically it has violated the forum rules but that's not left in my hands to decide. If you want to check if this is allowed? Report the thread specifying it's a duplicate with link to the other thread and sit back to watch the respond of the moderator that'll handle the case. No guarantee though as I'm thinking different moderators would handle this case differently if they got the report.

Viewing both thread, excepting the 'noting part' both threads are identical, word to word which is a perfect example of what duplicating means. If I was to be the one giving out the information, I would had turned the second thread into a discussion instead of the reposting format used. Still I believe, LFC_bitcoin meant no harm.


Title: Re: Double posting of a thread
Post by: libert19 on August 04, 2020, 04:52:52 AM
I have got my topics deleted reason being similar topic was made year prior and discussion should be kept there. Same thing here, why create two topics and break discussion between two?

One of them should be deleted, no matter the how important subject is.


Title: Re: Double posting of a thread
Post by: Upgrade00 on August 04, 2020, 05:08:56 AM
But is this allowed in the forum? Double posting a thread?
I do not think we need a thread to discuss whether or not an action fits into the scope of the unofficial rules. The rules are set as a guide and the moderators act using a bit of their discretion, you should have instead reported the post you think is wrongly placed to check if any action is taken to alert the mods of a post that needs attention.

The list of rules are not stringent and serve the purpose of preventing unethical behavior which would harm the forum, however leaving some flexibility in which different mods can make their own judgements. So I don't think it should be later scrutinized even if the mods do not take any action. It simply means they applied the rules differently based on the situation.


Title: Re: Double posting of a thread
Post by: crwth on August 04, 2020, 05:12:33 AM
I think it's okay to have two, in general, but if it has ultimately the same content, I don't think it's necessary to create two.

The best approach to this is to post the "First Thread Topic" and create another topic for another board linking to the "First Thread Topic." Then you could just put a reserved post under the first one, and you could connect the appropriate updates to that specific topic that you have.

For updates, at least you won't have any problem with posting in only one and not checking multiple threads at the same time.


Title: Re: Double posting of a thread
Post by: mk4 on August 04, 2020, 05:32:04 AM
But if its for the purpose of viewers, maybe its okay(?) but referring to the rules we could somehow say its not allowed unless used local translation for duplicating the post.

Probably, but the rules as far as I know aren't 100% sort of "set in stone". There has always been a few exceptions to the listed unofficial rules, and I think LFC_bitcoin's post is a good example.


Title: Re: Double posting of a thread
Post by: Sanitough on August 04, 2020, 05:39:38 AM
Actually it's up to the mods to decide, upon reading the forum rules again, this is what I see that would fit a bit.

32. Posting multiple posts in a row (excluding bumps and reserved posts by the thread starter) is not allowed.

It was not stated literally that posting a double thread is not allowed, so it's hard to decide that's why I'm saying it's up to the mods to decide.
In every rule there is an exemption, the purpose of LFC is to help the newbies or to spread awareness based on someone's experience, so I guess mods would allow this.

Just like the perman ban rule, there are members who got perma ban but when members with good contribution to the forum make an appeal, they are only given a signature ban for a period of time.


Title: Re: Double posting of a thread
Post by: Poker Player on August 04, 2020, 05:41:03 AM
I think if there are exceptions to the rule, this should be one of them. He is trying to help people protect their account by warning them. I wasn’t sure if I had hidden my email when I registered and as soon as I saw the thread I checked it.


Title: Re: Double posting of a thread
Post by: btcltcdigger on August 04, 2020, 05:49:48 AM
Well,
Many of the bounty managers have the same exact service listing on "services" and "altcoin services".
Variation between those is more or less 5%. Does this also count as double posting?


Title: Re: Double posting of a thread
Post by: LoyceV on August 04, 2020, 05:59:25 AM
Instead of double posting, one topic can be moved between boards a few times. It's not an urgent matter, account hacks have been happening for years.


Title: Re: Double posting of a thread
Post by: mk4 on August 04, 2020, 06:33:29 AM
32. Posting multiple posts in a row (excluding bumps and reserved posts by the thread starter) is not allowed.

It was not stated literally that posting a double thread is not allowed, so it's hard to decide that's why I'm saying it's up to the mods to decide.
In every rule there is an exemption, the purpose of LFC is to help the newbies or to spread awareness based on someone's experience, so I guess mods would allow this.

Just like the perman ban rule, there are members who got perma ban but when members with good contribution to the forum make an appeal, they are only given a signature ban for a period of time.

If I understand correctly, that rule is mostly for replying to a certain topic because having multiple posts in a row is unnecessary(besides bumps and reserved posts like what's said in the rule) due to the fact that you can simply combine two posts to one.


Title: Re: Double posting of a thread
Post by: SFR10 on August 04, 2020, 08:19:21 AM
I wanted to suggest merging both threads since they're still quite new [19 comments apart from OP (as of now) in both threads, it'll be a single page] but recalled what "theymos" mentioned in regards to such cases and what should be the appropriate action:

Only admins can merge threads, and it's only done for technical reasons such as an accidentally-split post. Merging similar threads together just makes a big mess; if too many topics about the same thing are posted, the extras should just be locked or deleted.


Title: Re: Double posting of a thread
Post by: Little Mouse on August 04, 2020, 09:56:45 AM
There's probably no sort of "standard" rule for this, but I think in this case it's a reasonable excuse to post on both sections. The topic is best for the Meta section, but at the same time there might be a good number of people that don't read the Meta section at all.
I have no doubt that the thread is useful for both sections and so does the forum rules are but in other boards than meta, rules have been linked if I am correct, not duplicated. I hope I was able to point the main point.


Title: Re: Double posting of a thread
Post by: NavI_027 on August 07, 2020, 03:52:08 AM
LFC_bitcoin has posted this on meta- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5266445.0
And posted the same message on Beginners and Help also. Purpose of creating thread on both board is good, it will help members to be secured. But is this allowed in the forum? Double posting a thread? I am asking this as general, nothing to do with LFC_bitcoin here, no offense to LFC_bitcoin.
I see few cases before of threads which originally came from our local board, translated to english and then posted it on beginners and help (about their btctalk journey or ranking up usually). Both threads remain so I think it is okay. Maybe it's only their own way of letting greater audience know their story and not intend to spam or whatsoever. Thus, accepted.

But in the case you present, I don't think it is not necessary since Meta and Beginners & Help are both inemternational boards (just my own opinion, I know there is no specific rule regarding this :D). Anyone can visit it unlike with local boards where the majority are native speakers.