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Title: Beirut just got nuked it's on the news
Post by: spy100 on August 04, 2020, 03:54:58 PM
Beirut just got nuked it's on the news

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxsv9AJBnvo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3QAifXSsMI


Title: Re: Beirut just got nuked it's on the news
Post by: jackg on August 04, 2020, 04:06:24 PM
Doesn't look nuclear? Do you mean it got bombed?

I can't find any articles stating what dropped/planted it?


Title: Re: Beirut just got nuked it's on the news
Post by: spy100 on August 04, 2020, 04:11:01 PM
Doesn't look nuclear? Do you mean it got bombed?

I can't find any articles stating what dropped/planted it?

It just happened now they say fireworks incident now ...

That looks like a 10 kilotons explosion ... hope it's just a incident in a factory ...


Title: Re: Explosion in Beirut
Post by: suchmoon on August 04, 2020, 04:13:15 PM
Yeah right, youtubing a nuke from that distance. Kids these days.

OP, rename the thread and at least make some effort to explain how this relates to Economics.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-53656220

Quote
A large blast has hit the Lebanese capital, Beirut, ahead of the verdict in a trial for the killing of ex-PM Rafik Hariri in 2005.

Reports say the explosion was in the port area of the city, with unconfirmed reports of a second blast.

Video showed a large mushroom cloud and extensive damage.

A UN tribunal is due to issue its verdict in the trial in absentia of four suspects in the murder by car bomb of Rafik Hariri.

All four are members of the Iranian-backed Hezbollah group, which has consistently denied any role in Hariri's death.

The possible second explosion was reported to be at the Hariri residence in the city.

Dozens have been injured, AFP news agency reports, quoting a security source.

The latest reports come amid political tension in Lebanon, with street demonstrations against the government's handling the worst economic crisis since the 1975-1990 civil war.


Title: Re: Explosion in Beirut
Post by: spy100 on August 04, 2020, 04:19:44 PM
Yeah right, youtubing a nuke from that distance. Kids these days.

OP, rename the thread and at least make some effort to explain how this relates to Economics.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-53656220

Quote
A large blast has hit the Lebanese capital, Beirut, ahead of the verdict in a trial for the killing of ex-PM Rafik Hariri in 2005.

Reports say the explosion was in the port area of the city, with unconfirmed reports of a second blast.

Video showed a large mushroom cloud and extensive damage.

A UN tribunal is due to issue its verdict in the trial in absentia of four suspects in the murder by car bomb of Rafik Hariri.

All four are members of the Iranian-backed Hezbollah group, which has consistently denied any role in Hariri's death.

The possible second explosion was reported to be at the Hariri residence in the city.

Dozens have been injured, AFP news agency reports, quoting a security source.

The latest reports come amid political tension in Lebanon, with street demonstrations against the government's handling the worst economic crisis since the 1975-1990 civil war.


well if it's a nuke their ain't going to be a economic area on bitcointalk ...not even bitcointalk or you or me as Russia will not sit and watch ...

so let's see what others say ... and hope it's not a nuke

Looks very similar to a Moab or a nuke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBmCegAiIFI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xYYV60G-nQ


Title: Re: Explosion in Beirut
Post by: suchmoon on August 04, 2020, 04:29:27 PM
so let's see what others say ... and hope it's not a nuke

Or you could be a normal human person and not spread panic and fake news until you actually know what happened.


Title: Re: Beirut just got nuked it's on the news
Post by: DoubleEdgeEX on August 04, 2020, 04:31:07 PM
No bombs, obviously, looks like a deflagration to me. Here are videos and comments from people that are acutally there: https://twitter.com/romyjournalist/status/1290671518154985472


Title: Re: Beirut just got nuked it's on the news
Post by: LTU_btc on August 04, 2020, 08:45:31 PM
It looks so scary. Damage of explosion is huge - city looks like after war. There is 50 victims and 2700 people injured, but these numbers are going to grow unfortunately, considering that explosion happened in big city and it was so powerful.
There is no confirmation what was inside storage. In this video it looks like fireworks, but it might be guns or some kind of chemical material too:
https://mobile.twitter.com/Jtruzmah/status/1290676668617564160
But I don't think it's terror attack.


Title: Re: Beirut just got nuked it's on the news
Post by: target on August 04, 2020, 09:05:06 PM
Nuke would cause mushroom.

Base on some reports it looks like an oil depo explosion. This is nearby the port. At first, there is a fire causing the thick smoke and then the boom. The explosion though too huge to say its just a factory.  This is a capital city, this will surely make a difference to their economy.


Title: Re: Explosion in Beirut
Post by: squatz1 on August 04, 2020, 09:13:47 PM
Yeah right, youtubing a nuke from that distance. Kids these days.

OP, rename the thread and at least make some effort to explain how this relates to Economics.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-53656220

Quote
A large blast has hit the Lebanese capital, Beirut, ahead of the verdict in a trial for the killing of ex-PM Rafik Hariri in 2005.

Reports say the explosion was in the port area of the city, with unconfirmed reports of a second blast.

Video showed a large mushroom cloud and extensive damage.

A UN tribunal is due to issue its verdict in the trial in absentia of four suspects in the murder by car bomb of Rafik Hariri.

All four are members of the Iranian-backed Hezbollah group, which has consistently denied any role in Hariri's death.

The possible second explosion was reported to be at the Hariri residence in the city.

Dozens have been injured, AFP news agency reports, quoting a security source.

The latest reports come amid political tension in Lebanon, with street demonstrations against the government's handling the worst economic crisis since the 1975-1990 civil war.

Sigh, I really cant with the state of the board at this point. Sad to see this sort of flood of posts everywhere.

Like if OP just thought about this for a moment, they would've noticed that the person filming would ALSO be dead if this was a nuclear blast. Plus the fact that it would be confirmed from like every single news outlet as a confirmed nuclear blast.

The explosion was caused by a fire in a warehouse which held explosive materials. Confirmed by WSJ and tons of other outlets (https://www.wsj.com/articles/lebanon-struck-by-blast-at-beirut-port-11596556605)

Horrible what happened. Dozens were killed and thousands were left injured.

Highly doubt OP is even going to read our pleas for him to improve the post quality.


Title: Re: Beirut just got nuked it's on the news
Post by: JeromeTash on August 04, 2020, 09:25:52 PM
It looks so scary. Damage of explosion is huge - city looks like after war. There is 50 victims and 2700 people injured, but these numbers are going to grow unfortunately, considering that explosion happened in big city and it was so powerful.
There is no confirmation what was inside storage. In this video it looks like fireworks, but it might be guns or some kind of chemical material too:
https://mobile.twitter.com/Jtruzmah/status/1290676668617564160
But I don't think it's terror attack.

I have seen so many explosion videos in the past including nuke tests but this surely can't be a nuclear bomb/missle or Fireworks. It's most likely an explosion caused a chemical like ammonium nitrate probably stored in one of the warehouse in Large Quantities.

If you clearly look at the video, It first started as a fire then followed by a big BOOOM! That not how nukes or fireworks explode. If it was guns or a dozen bombs, Gas container/cylinders we would see multiple small explosions


Title: Re: Beirut just got nuked it's on the news
Post by: TECSHARE on August 04, 2020, 10:02:19 PM
Just looking at it I am predicting it was some kind of pressurized fuel or liquid fuel tank which was heated by a fire and over pressured. The explosion of the tank mixes the surrounding oxygen with the fuel extremely quickly, resulting in a MASSIVE explosion much greater in scale and destruction than any other kind of accidental explosion you will likely see. They even build certain bunker busting bombs based on this concept.


Title: Re: Beirut just got nuked it's on the news
Post by: Gyfts on August 04, 2020, 10:05:19 PM
https://twitter.com/ASE/status/1290696406815080450

Allegedly caused by some sort of explosive material including sodium nitrate. Some estimates are 50 people dead with 2k+ injured, but it'll be a while until we get a full casualty report.


Title: Re: Beirut just got nuked it's on the news
Post by: coins4commies on August 04, 2020, 10:22:31 PM
not a nuke but possibly some sort of conventional or dirty bomb.  a nuke would come with a bright flash and high temperature blast. this had a huge pressure blast though so thats why people mistakenly think its nuclear.


Title: Re: Beirut just got nuked it's on the news
Post by: rdbase on August 04, 2020, 10:49:10 PM
There were so many camera's for phones on the fire they got so many different angles of it.
Here is a video containing several of the most commonly seen ones already:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGEmD6j8diU

The one that caught the best angle is of the fireworks going off then the explosion where the camera doesn't turn away because it looks like they are several kilometers away from the blast from a very high tower:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruIHp8sgQ_E

Wasnt there something in Beirut to do with an explosion just a few days ago?
It was a country torn by war so just thought it was just more unrest starting up again from the world we are all living in now.
So not too surprised to hear about it.


Title: Re: Beirut just got nuked it's on the news
Post by: Indymoney on August 04, 2020, 10:53:07 PM
not a nuke but possibly some sort of conventional or dirty bomb.  a nuke would come with a bright flash and high temperature blast. this had a huge pressure blast though so thats why people mistakenly think its nuclear.
Most of peoples feeling its nothing terrorist atttack or related bomb or weapons its just chemical related explosioun but still very painful as hundreds are already died and thousands in hostpitals.


Title: Re: Explosion in Beirut
Post by: Upgrade00 on August 04, 2020, 10:57:01 PM
It's most likely an explosion caused a chemical like ammonium nitrate probably stored in one of the warehouse in Large Quantities.
According to reports, the building was a storage facility for chemicals, so this was most likely the case.
The fact that such a facility could exist at a highly populated location in the capital city of Lebanon should raise concern and stimulate stricter rules and regulations on the handling of hazardous substances.
Ammonium nitrate was used in making explosives as far back as the first world war, before it was recognized as a fertilizer product and its use and storage should be more regulated than it is now, to prevent future occurrences like this.


Title: Re: Beirut just got nuked it's on the news
Post by: electronicash on August 04, 2020, 10:57:44 PM
https://twitter.com/ASE/status/1290696406815080450

Allegedly caused by some sort of explosive material including sodium nitrate. Some estimates are 50 people dead with 2k+ injured, but it'll be a while until we get a full casualty report.

sodium nitrate is a ingredient for bombs. theres gotta be more deaths with that kind of explosion, its yet not reported. when glass windows shatters and people are inside the building, its definitely not good. in the video, it looks like there are fireworks first before the big explosion. isn't there US forces still around that area?  

look at the building here in this report https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm1EpNVLCpo  it says there are series of explosions.




Title: Re: Beirut just got nuked it's on the news
Post by: Spendulus on August 04, 2020, 11:21:55 PM
Beirut just got nuked it's on the news

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxsv9AJBnvo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3QAifXSsMI

NO, Beirut did not just get nuked.

Nothing about those videos indicates that, and several things indicate it was not.

But that was one big explosion, no question.


Title: Re: Beirut just got nuked it's on the news
Post by: TECSHARE on August 05, 2020, 12:09:01 AM
"Trump says top U.S. generals believe explosion in Beirut was an “attack”"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fx3oLZryzuo


Title: Re: Beirut just got nuked it's on the news
Post by: BADecker on August 05, 2020, 12:29:21 AM
Beirut just got nuked it's on the news

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxsv9AJBnvo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3QAifXSsMI

NO, Beirut did not just get nuked.

Nothing about those videos indicates that, and several things indicate it was not.

But that was one big explosion, no question.

Right! Nothing like the failed Oklahoma bombing inside job.     8)


Title: Re: Beirut just got nuked it's on the news
Post by: tvbcof on August 05, 2020, 02:44:41 AM
https://twitter.com/ASE/status/1290696406815080450

Allegedly caused by some sort of explosive material including sodium nitrate. Some estimates are 50 people dead with 2k+ injured, but it'll be a while until we get a full casualty report.

sodium nitrate is a ingredient for bombs. theres gotta be more deaths with that kind of explosion, its yet not reported. when glass windows shatters and people are inside the building, its definitely not good. in the video, it looks like there are fireworks first before the big explosion. isn't there US forces still around that area?  

look at the building here in this report https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm1EpNVLCpo  it says there are series of explosions.

Lol!  The 'sodium nitrate storer' cries out in pain as he strikes you.

Seems reminiscent of some of the tests I've seen footage of out of Yemen.  I never followed up on efforts to discover the nature of the energy source.  I would expect more sonic booms and aerial artifacts if it were kinetic 'Rods from God' type technology.  I think some of the thermobaric technologies have been used enough over the past few decades to be somewhat understood, but I've not researched things enough to know them.

The U.S. has been making noise for some time about 'deploy-able nukes', and under GW Bush our defense posture was changed so as to justify the use of tactical nuclear weapons for the purpose of demonstrating that we would use tactical nuclear weapons.  I've always been suspicious that the underlying goal of U.S.'s belligerence is to make justifiable to the rest of the world a first-strike on that nation which utterly destroys it in an instant.  In the bible it says that when this happens the world will cry, but only because they will lose money having become addicted to sending goods our way in exchange for money.

I do kind of figure that 70 years of development post-Hiroshima would have resulted in vastly improved technology and methods based roughly on quantum physics.  Particularly as anti-matter is in fairly wide-spread use by this time.  Whenever I see one of these things I wonder if that could be the visual impact of such weaponry?



Title: Re: Beirut just got nuked it's on the news
Post by: jackg on August 05, 2020, 03:02:12 AM
"Trump says top U.S. generals believe explosion in Beirut was an “attack”"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fx3oLZryzuo

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/aug/04/beirut-explosion-huge-blast-port-lebanon-capital

That does make sense, I didn't think ammonium nitrate was flammable (I think it's used in firelighters and explosives to help contain and fuel a fire)... That website says it takes certain conditions in order to get an explosion to happen but at least it's not nuclear I guess...


Title: Re: Beirut just got nuked it's on the news
Post by: Gyfts on August 05, 2020, 04:39:54 AM
https://twitter.com/ASE/status/1290696406815080450

Allegedly caused by some sort of explosive material including sodium nitrate. Some estimates are 50 people dead with 2k+ injured, but it'll be a while until we get a full casualty report.

sodium nitrate is a ingredient for bombs. theres gotta be more deaths with that kind of explosion, its yet not reported. when glass windows shatters and people are inside the building, its definitely not good. in the video, it looks like there are fireworks first before the big explosion. isn't there US forces still around that area?  

look at the building here in this report https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm1EpNVLCpo  it says there are series of explosions.

Lol!  The 'sodium nitrate storer' cries out in pain as he strikes you.

Seems reminiscent of some of the tests I've seen footage of out of Yemen.  I never followed up on efforts to discover the nature of the energy source.  I would expect more sonic booms and aerial artifacts if it were kinetic 'Rods from God' type technology.  I think some of the thermobaric technologies have been used enough over the past few decades to be somewhat understood, but I've not researched things enough to know them.

The U.S. has been making noise for some time about 'deploy-able nukes', and under GW Bush our defense posture was changed so as to justify the use of tactical nuclear weapons for the purpose of demonstrating that we would use tactical nuclear weapons.  I've always been suspicious that the underlying goal of U.S.'s belligerence is to make justifiable to the rest of the world a first-strike on that nation which utterly destroys it in an instant.  In the bible it says that when this happens the world will cry, but only because they will lose money having become addicted to sending goods our way in exchange for money.

I do kind of figure that 70 years of development post-Hiroshima would have resulted in vastly improved technology and methods based roughly on quantum physics.  Particularly as anti-matter is in fairly wide-spread use by this time.  Whenever I see one of these things I wonder if that could be the visual impact of such weaponry?




Is everything suppose to be some alleged conspiracy purported by the U.S.? As if something like this couldn't happen in a country where regulations are nonexistent where they don't take any sort of safety measures regarding explosive materials?



Title: Re: Beirut just got nuked it's on the news
Post by: SoulMortal on August 05, 2020, 04:42:36 AM
Beirut just got nuked it's on the news

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxsv9AJBnvo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3QAifXSsMI

Saw it on twitter it's very scary. I hope everyone is safe out there.


Title: Re: Beirut just got nuked it's on the news
Post by: tvbcof on August 05, 2020, 05:05:34 AM

Lol!  The 'sodium nitrate storer' cries out in pain as he strikes you.

Seems reminiscent of some of the tests I've seen footage of out of Yemen.  I never followed up on efforts to discover the nature of the energy source.  I would expect more sonic booms and aerial artifacts if it were kinetic 'Rods from God' type technology.  I think some of the thermobaric technologies have been used enough over the past few decades to be somewhat understood, but I've not researched things enough to know them.

The U.S. has been making noise for some time about 'deploy-able nukes', and under GW Bush our defense posture was changed so as to justify the use of tactical nuclear weapons for the purpose of demonstrating that we would use tactical nuclear weapons.  I've always been suspicious that the underlying goal of U.S.'s belligerence is to make justifiable to the rest of the world a first-strike on that nation which utterly destroys it in an instant.  In the bible it says that when this happens the world will cry, but only because they will lose money having become addicted to sending goods our way in exchange for money.

I do kind of figure that 70 years of development post-Hiroshima would have resulted in vastly improved technology and methods based roughly on quantum physics.  Particularly as anti-matter is in fairly wide-spread use by this time.  Whenever I see one of these things I wonder if that could be the visual impact of such weaponry?


Is everything suppose to be some alleged conspiracy purported by the U.S.? As if something like this couldn't happen in a country where regulations are nonexistent where they don't take any sort of safety measures regarding explosive materials?


Pffft.  Israel illegally bombs half of it's neighbors (chiefly Syria and Lebanon) nearly every day, but we are not supposed to suspect that this explosion might be yet another military operation?  Why is that???  Oh ya, 6-million Jews and what they market as 'the holocaust'.  How could I have forgotten?

You would also expect us to believe that a city like Beirut which is frequently targeted for attacks would have a port building (a skyscraper by looks of the vid I saw) packed with 200 tons of fertilizer for 6 years?  How absolutely fucking stupid and brainwashed does a person need to be to buy any of this cover story?

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Add to the list of suspected technologies above, 'dew'.  Directed Energy Weapons.  Here again, I've been more focused on research into biologicals and am not up on the latest theories about the capability of these, but it is pretty clear that if there were possibilities along these lines they would have been under heavy research and development.



Title: Re: Beirut just got nuked it's on the news
Post by: coins4commies on August 05, 2020, 05:09:32 AM
yeah I mean theres no way I'm buying the "o they just happened to be storing an insane amount of ammonium nitrate" in a capital city port and trump always says the quiet part out loud.


Title: Re: Beirut just got nuked it's on the news
Post by: akram143 on August 05, 2020, 09:16:05 AM
Yesterday night, I saw that news on BBC and the explosion looks like a nuclear one the big cloud like things formed after that blast but not sure what is is going to be.And also people away from 240 KM felt that explosion as they reported.

Hey 2020, Do you got still things for us? ::)


Title: Re: Beirut just got nuked it's on the news
Post by: franky1 on August 05, 2020, 10:39:30 AM
does not look like a missile strike to me
looks like an explosion from within.
either somebody set a bomb inside or because there is a military base there. the explosives stored there went off. accidently or on purpose.

but eitherway the size of the explosion was huge. way bigger than standard single missile strikes would cause
and lacks the evidence of an incoming missile. so seems like it was a explosion from within



Title: Re: Beirut just got nuked it's on the news
Post by: franky1 on August 05, 2020, 10:41:33 AM
yeah I mean theres no way I'm buying the "o they just happened to be storing an insane amount of ammonium nitrate" in a capital city port and trump always says the quiet part out loud.

firstly the port is not directly at the capital city.. the city is a few miles away.
secondly it doesnt look like its a nuclear 'yield' but also not a single missile 'yield'

the port could have been storing many things
so if you think the only thing stored at the port is baked beans.. then im not buying your opinion


Title: Re: Beirut just got nuked it's on the news
Post by: DaveF on August 05, 2020, 11:49:04 AM
yeah I mean theres no way I'm buying the "o they just happened to be storing an insane amount of ammonium nitrate" in a capital city port and trump always says the quiet part out loud.

It does not require an insane amount. Ammonium nitrate is not a joke. Google it. The bomb that Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols used in the Oklahoma City bombing was less then 7000 pounds (3300kg) yes to make it go boom in the most destructive way possible you need a specific way of doing it. Just for an explosion not at all that much precision needed. Mixed with just enough diesel or gas or some other liquids in a 40 pound (18kg) bag of it and you are going to have something that could take out an average home.
It's a shipping port. Would 20 shipping containers be a lot of fertilizer coming in for a country? Probably more, but lets go with 20 containers weighing in at 40,000 pounds (18,000kg) each. Add in anything else that may or may not be dangerous and yeah, big boom really quickly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJEnfzlR1HY for a video showing 2000lb (900kg) and a bit of diesel.

-Dave


Title: Re: Beirut just got nuked it's on the news
Post by: Mauser on August 05, 2020, 11:59:36 AM
Yesterday night, I saw that news on BBC and the explosion looks like a nuclear one the big cloud like things formed after that blast but not sure what is is going to be.And also people away from 240 KM felt that explosion as they reported.

Hey 2020, Do you got still things for us? ::)

A nuke would look much more like a mushroom, the explosion in Beirut was just a massive fireball. It looks like 2.750 tons of ammonium nitrate was behind the explosion. But no idea how such a quantity is stored close to living quarters. The shockwave was just massive. Especially that video from an unlucky fellow in the building right next to it. I really hope the death numbers doesn't keep rising. All the best for the people in Beirut.


Title: Re: Beirut just got nuked it's on the news
Post by: franky1 on August 05, 2020, 12:00:19 PM
yeah I mean theres no way I'm buying the "o they just happened to be storing an insane amount of ammonium nitrate" in a capital city port and trump always says the quiet part out loud.

It does not require an insane amount. Ammonium nitrate is not a joke. Google it. The bomb that Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols used in the Oklahoma City bombing was less then 7000 pounds (3300kg) yes to make it go boom in the most destructive way possible you need a specific way of doing it. Just for an explosion not at all that much precision needed. Mixed with just enough diesel or gas or some other liquids in a 40 pound (18kg) bag of it and you are going to have something that could take out an average home.
It's a shipping port. Would 20 shipping containers be a lot of fertilizer coming in for a country? Probably more, but lets go with 20 containers weighing in at 40,000 pounds (18,000kg) each. Add in anything else that may or may not be dangerous and yeah, big boom really quickly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJEnfzlR1HY for a video showing 2000lb (900kg) and a bit of diesel.

-Dave

20 shipping containers would cause a cascade of 20 separate explosions..
more likely that amount of stuff. but inside a building in a small area stored together not in separate containers


Title: Re: Beirut just got nuked it's on the news
Post by: tvbcof on August 05, 2020, 12:33:46 PM

...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJEnfzlR1HY for a video showing 2000lb (900kg) and a bit of diesel.

-Dave

Did you even listen to the story Goober?  They used what high explosive they had (looks like RDX and PETN) to scatter the ammonium nitrate.  What minor surface level shock wave there was was almost certainly a result of the high explosive.  Ammonium nitrate is used as a heaving charge.  We used to blast holes with a high explosive shaped charge then drop ammonium nitrate in to make craters.  (The poor Brits used to use an auger.  I would have loved to have watched them try to get a 12' deep hole in the Texas desert soil using that method.)

The story about the Tim McVeigh and his van full of fertilizer is almost as ridiculous as the 911 fable.



Title: Re: Beirut just got nuked it's on the news
Post by: elisabetheva on August 05, 2020, 02:18:35 PM
Yesterday night, I saw that news on BBC and the explosion looks like a nuclear one the big cloud like things formed after that blast but not sure what is is going to be.And also people away from 240 KM felt that explosion as they reported.

Hey 2020, Do you got still things for us? ::)

yes, it is quite terrible if you see from the video circulating, that the explosion has sent a hard shock a few km from the initial explosion point. Of course I just saw that there was a terrible explosion like that, sending a powerful blow that could throw anything away from the explosion.

although there may be news about conspiracies and so on, the most important thing now is recovery, so that soon there will be calm in the community. condolences for families who may have a direct impact, hopefully they can be given strength to face this.


Title: Re: Beirut just got nuked it's on the news
Post by: eddie13 on August 05, 2020, 04:43:25 PM
Not sure if real..

https://i.imgur.com/bHLYKOM.png


Title: Re: Beirut just got nuked it's on the news
Post by: Spendulus on August 05, 2020, 05:09:01 PM
https://twitter.com/ASE/status/1290696406815080450

Allegedly caused by some sort of explosive material including sodium nitrate. Some estimates are 50 people dead with 2k+ injured, but it'll be a while until we get a full casualty report.

sodium nitrate is a ingredient for bombs. theres gotta be more deaths with that kind of explosion, its yet not reported. when glass windows shatters and people are inside the building, its definitely not good. in the video, it looks like there are fireworks first before the big explosion. isn't there US forces still around that area?  

look at the building here in this report https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm1EpNVLCpo  it says there are series of explosions.

Lol!  The 'sodium nitrate storer' cries out in pain as he strikes you.

Seems reminiscent of some of the tests I've seen footage of out of Yemen.  ....
I do kind of figure that 70 years of development post-Hiroshima would have resulted in vastly improved technology and methods based roughly on quantum physics.  Particularly as anti-matter is in fairly wide-spread use by this time.  Whenever I see one of these things I wonder if that could be the visual impact of such weaponry?



ammonium nitrate explosion - Texas city

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_City_disaster

Primarily ammonium sulfate - This disaster has remarkable similarities

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oppau_explosion



Title: Re: Beirut just got nuked it's on the news
Post by: electronicash on August 05, 2020, 07:56:51 PM

Lol!  The 'sodium nitrate storer' cries out in pain as he strikes you.

Seems reminiscent of some of the tests I've seen footage of out of Yemen.  I never followed up on efforts to discover the nature of the energy source.  I would expect more sonic booms and aerial artifacts if it were kinetic 'Rods from God' type technology.  I think some of the thermobaric technologies have been used enough over the past few decades to be somewhat understood, but I've not researched things enough to know them.

The U.S. has been making noise for some time about 'deploy-able nukes', and under GW Bush our defense posture was changed so as to justify the use of tactical nuclear weapons for the purpose of demonstrating that we would use tactical nuclear weapons.  I've always been suspicious that the underlying goal of U.S.'s belligerence is to make justifiable to the rest of the world a first-strike on that nation which utterly destroys it in an instant.  In the bible it says that when this happens the world will cry, but only because they will lose money having become addicted to sending goods our way in exchange for money.

I do kind of figure that 70 years of development post-Hiroshima would have resulted in vastly improved technology and methods based roughly on quantum physics.  Particularly as anti-matter is in fairly wide-spread use by this time.  Whenever I see one of these things I wonder if that could be the visual impact of such weaponry?


Is everything suppose to be some alleged conspiracy purported by the U.S.? As if something like this couldn't happen in a country where regulations are nonexistent where they don't take any sort of safety measures regarding explosive materials?


Pffft.  Israel illegally bombs half of it's neighbors (chiefly Syria and Lebanon) nearly every day, but we are not supposed to suspect that this explosion might be yet another military operation?  Why is that???  Oh ya, 6-million Jews and what they market as 'the holocaust'.  How could I have forgotten?

You would also expect us to believe that a city like Beirut which is frequently targeted for attacks would have a port building (a skyscraper by looks of the vid I saw) packed with 200 tons of fertilizer for 6 years?  How absolutely fucking stupid and brainwashed does a person need to be to buy any of this cover story?

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Add to the list of suspected technologies above, 'dew'.  Directed Energy Weapons.  Here again, I've been more focused on research into biologicals and am not up on the latest theories about the capability of these, but it is pretty clear that if there were possibilities along these lines they would have been under heavy research and development.


will Israel act on it s own?  they've been surrounded by all their enemies but its just that protected that they build walls around them. if its Israel why is there not much articles and news about it. lucky Rothschild nation actually. if it was China, its all over the news even when its happening half way around the world.


that's a big crater. the port seem to help much for their economic activity. it would be careless of them to store explosive chemicals there. none would do that.



Title: Re: Beirut just got nuked it's on the news
Post by: TECSHARE on August 05, 2020, 10:26:08 PM
Yeah the newest reports seem to indicate a stored chemical explosion. That seems to be consistent with the blast. There was an initial blast wave followed by the explosive material reaching critical 02 mix, and it all ignites at once creating a massive shock wave. That said, there is no way to know for sure if it was accidental or intentional. Often that is the point.


Title: Re: Beirut just got nuked it's on the news
Post by: DaveF on August 05, 2020, 10:54:44 PM
Yeah the newest reports seem to indicate a stored chemical explosion. That seems to be consistent with the blast. There was an initial blast wave followed by the explosive material reaching critical 02 mix, and it all ignites at once creating a massive shock wave. That said, there is no way to know for sure if it was accidental or intentional. Often that is the point.

Or if it was both; some group or even an individual was looking to do damage in one spot and there were some chemicals that were supposed to be stored safely over there, but some dock worker put them over here instead. Your minor insurance fire or sabotage or a bit of terrorism to stop things in a port for a few days just bombed a city. Remember most things you don't have to attribute to malice, it's usually incompetence.

-Dave


Title: Re: Beirut just got nuked it's on the news
Post by: TECSHARE on August 05, 2020, 11:12:05 PM
Yeah the newest reports seem to indicate a stored chemical explosion. That seems to be consistent with the blast. There was an initial blast wave followed by the explosive material reaching critical 02 mix, and it all ignites at once creating a massive shock wave. That said, there is no way to know for sure if it was accidental or intentional. Often that is the point.

Or if it was both; some group or even an individual was looking to do damage in one spot and there were some chemicals that were supposed to be stored safely over there, but some dock worker put them over here instead. Your minor insurance fire or sabotage or a bit of terrorism to stop things in a port for a few days just bombed a city. Remember most things you don't have to attribute to malice, it's usually incompetence.

-Dave


You act as if we are living in a totally normal time where exceptional things don't happen every day. I don't remember drawing any conclusions, I did however offer some of the more likely explanations. Plausible deniability is most certainly a viable military strategy. No reptilians need be involved.


Title: Re: Beirut just got nuked it's on the news
Post by: tvbcof on August 06, 2020, 04:14:49 AM
It was a pretty big explosion which caused a lot of damage and a lot of death.  Seems that the worldwide consensus is that this is not cool even if Lebanese have darker skin than Ashkenazim Khazars who, according to their own lore, God gave the land to.

I've heard that Israel is going to play it as 'yes, we did some minor bombing, as we do practically every day, but we didn't know that the Lebanese unwisely choose to pack 2000 tons of explosives into the building next door.  So, Lebanese at fault, and the Zionists are, as usual, completely blameless.  Because holocaust.'

Sadly the lie will probably work as well as it always has, especially in the 'Western Hemisphere' (where the various Espstein-type operations have re-structured the government, media, and society.)



Title: Re: Beirut just got nuked it's on the news
Post by: Salauddin1994 on August 06, 2020, 03:13:37 PM
Economically devastated Lebanon is struggling to cope with the old sectarian conflict and the new coronavirus crisis. The country is also in a precarious position due to Israel's recent confrontation with the Iranian-backed armed group Hezbollah. In Beirut, the news just stopped. The quake was also felt in the island of Cyprus, 240 kilometres away, where residents thought it was an earthquake. The blast started on Tuesday at an explosives depot in the port. After the explosion, a cloud of smoke spread over an area of ​​several kilometres. Many people were injured and killed.


Title: Re: Beirut just got nuked it's on the news
Post by: iRaMMuS34 on August 06, 2020, 03:43:35 PM
Definitely not nukes, and these horrific accidents happen all over the world from time to time (2015 blast in China comes to mind first: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iv5g2MhPT5I ) . Not the best time for panic.


Title: Re: Beirut just got nuked it's on the news
Post by: pakhitheboss on August 08, 2020, 03:16:52 AM
Another country destroyed because of corrupt politicians. After this horrific incident in Lebanon, it was found out that those chemicals were lying in the docks from 2013. The government is to be blamed as they never responded to the letters send by the dock authorities in regards to shifting those chemicals to a secure location.

This is the second country in the middle east which is got destroyed because of Saudia and Iran's proxy war.


Title: Re: Beirut just got nuked it's on the news
Post by: tvbcof on August 08, 2020, 05:34:25 AM
I've been having an unusually difficult time finding out information on this event.  The 'narrative' here is as jelously controlled as in anything I've seen recently.  Even 5G!

My hypothesis:  There was something of a diversionary bombing.  The site underwent DEW treatment for some time until it got good and hot.  Then some substance was delivered which created a thermobaric detonation.  The odd colored 'smoke' was quite telling.  The principle of thermite is rather easy to grasp, but aluminum and iron are not the only two elements which can exchange oxygen in a rapid exothermic reaction.  An element of my hypothesis is that there is another set of chemicals used in more advanced and possibly more efficient/energetic reaction.  Due to the crater I would suspect a bunker-buster of some sort was also delivered.

The 'Lebanese officials' going along with the '2000 tons of fertilizer' charade is no surprise.  One of the goal is to get a war going which is exactly what the Zionists want.  It would be a great excuse to completely ethnically cleans the whole country with modern weapons and thus avoid the humiliation that Israel suffered at the hands of Hezbollah when they tried to do it the old fashioned way in the last conventional attack during Olmert's tenure.  Anveryone, including Hezbollah, have every reason to shut things up for now so as not to give Israel exactly what it wants.

I have seen no compelling evidence for nuclear effects, and I don't believe that it is necessary to explain the magnitude of energy delivery for this particular event.  Most likely it is a demonstration to anyone who dares to challenge Israel (and their minions and lackies such as the U.S..)  KJV in Revelations somewhere:

And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

Believing the mainstream media bullshit about almost anything is very aptly described by the term 'worshipping' as I see it (which is from a secular point of view.)



Title: Re: Beirut just got nuked it's on the news
Post by: Barnabe on August 08, 2020, 08:28:02 AM
It is just more probable that the Lebanese authorities suck and they forgot about this storage and its potential dangers. There is no need to go for a very complicated justification when negligence is so obvious.


Title: Re: Beirut just got nuked it's on the news
Post by: tvbcof on August 08, 2020, 11:10:10 AM
It is just more probable that the Lebanese authorities suck and they forgot about this storage and its potential dangers. There is no need to go for a very complicated justification when negligence is so obvious.

Since Israel is constantly invading Lebanon's airspace and regularly bombing Lebanon itself, and since the very building which used to sit where the crater is was identified specifically as a potential target by the IDF, the 'simple explanation' is that it was blown up by the Israelis.  But that doesn't make it the factually correct explanation of course, and even if it is basically correct there are still a lot of unanswered questions.

The idea that enough explosives to blow up half the capital were stockpiled at the port of the war-torn city for 6 years and the Lebanese were to stupid to figure out the danger is actually a more complex explanation and it strains credulity.  Very few thinking people who are familiar with the situation in that area are giving the theory (either the 'fireworks' variant or the 'fertilizer' variant) much thought.  As usual these days, the mainstream media, a few flesh-n-blood propagandists, and a ton of bots are giving the negligent accident story what legs it has.

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Edit:  I retract the statement about the specific building being identified as a target.  That may be inaccurate and it was more or less a conclusion I jumped to without proper geo analysis.



Title: Re: Beirut just got nuked it's on the news
Post by: Barnabe on August 09, 2020, 07:50:40 AM
It is just more probable that the Lebanese authorities suck and they forgot about this storage and its potential dangers. There is no need to go for a very complicated justification when negligence is so obvious.

Since Israel is constantly invading Lebanon's airspace and regularly bombing Lebanon itself, and since the very building which used to sit where the crater is was identified specifically as a potential target by the IDF, the 'simple explanation' is that it was blown up by the Israelis.  But that doesn't make it the factually correct explanation of course, and even if it is basically correct there are still a lot of unanswered questions.

The idea that enough explosives to blow up half the capital were stockpiled at the port of the war-torn city for 6 years and the Lebanese were to stupid to figure out the danger is actually a more complex explanation and it strains credulity.  Very few thinking people who are familiar with the situation in that area are giving the theory (either the 'fireworks' variant or the 'fertilizer' variant) much thought.  As usual these days, the mainstream media, a few flesh-n-blood propagandists, and a ton of bots are giving the negligent accident story what legs it has.

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Edit:  I retract the statement about the specific building being identified as a target.  That may be inaccurate and it was more or less a conclusion I jumped to without proper geo analysis.


The lebanese government admitted it was negligence right ? So there is no need for further theories, as far as Lebanon is concerned, the only thing we can do now is focus on the protests happening right now.


Title: Re: Beirut just got nuked it's on the news
Post by: tvbcof on August 09, 2020, 08:20:19 AM
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The lebanese government admitted it was negligence right ? So there is no need for further theories, as far as Lebanon is concerned, the only thing we can do now is focus on the protests happening right now.

Like I said, Israel wishes to get a full-on war going so they can decimate the population of Lebanon.  As far as I can see, the 'official government' of Lebanon is some gaggle of lackeys of the West.  IIRC, the last 'president of Lebanon' had his office (and his ass) in Saudi Arabia much of the time.  It's a Juan Guido type situation.  Even so, they probably don't want to see 80% of the population ethnically cleansed to make way for the Greater Israel project so they'll do anything to avoid going to war.  Most certainly including lying about an Israeli attack using novel weapons of mass destruction.

Hezbollah seems like the real government of Lebanon and who the people trust.  With good reason.  They more than the puppet government wish not to see their people final solution-ed and have stayed relatively mum about things as best I can tell.  Nasrullah, however, has said that 'he knows more about what is where at the port of Haifa than at the port of Beirut.'  And he has a reputation for making good on his promises.  We'll see what happens next.  I would expect fireworks in Jerusalem as trade for the Beirut flash-bang.  Seems more of a fair trade.



Title: Re: Beirut just got nuked it's on the news
Post by: squatz1 on August 09, 2020, 08:57:19 PM
It is just more probable that the Lebanese authorities suck and they forgot about this storage and its potential dangers. There is no need to go for a very complicated justification when negligence is so obvious.

Since Israel is constantly invading Lebanon's airspace and regularly bombing Lebanon itself, and since the very building which used to sit where the crater is was identified specifically as a potential target by the IDF, the 'simple explanation' is that it was blown up by the Israelis.  But that doesn't make it the factually correct explanation of course, and even if it is basically correct there are still a lot of unanswered questions.

The idea that enough explosives to blow up half the capital were stockpiled at the port of the war-torn city for 6 years and the Lebanese were to stupid to figure out the danger is actually a more complex explanation and it strains credulity.  Very few thinking people who are familiar with the situation in that area are giving the theory (either the 'fireworks' variant or the 'fertilizer' variant) much thought.  As usual these days, the mainstream media, a few flesh-n-blood propagandists, and a ton of bots are giving the negligent accident story what legs it has.

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Edit:  I retract the statement about the specific building being identified as a target.  That may be inaccurate and it was more or less a conclusion I jumped to without proper geo analysis.


The lebanese government admitted it was negligence right ? So there is no need for further theories, as far as Lebanon is concerned, the only thing we can do now is focus on the protests happening right now.

Yup. The Lebanese government has come out and said that they were wrong to keep the materials there, and that they should've been more careful about concerns from people regarding it.

One of the ministers in the government has resigned, and a few others have spoken about doing so. I'm pretty sure this would be done to relax the protesting of the people. The people who resign would most likely move back into some sort of cushy government job at some point -- just not now.

https://www.arabnews.com/node/1717036/middle-east


Title: Re: Beirut just got nuked it's on the news
Post by: Barnabe on August 12, 2020, 12:17:50 PM
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The lebanese government admitted it was negligence right ? So there is no need for further theories, as far as Lebanon is concerned, the only thing we can do now is focus on the protests happening right now.

Like I said, Israel wishes to get a full-on war going so they can decimate the population of Lebanon.  As far as I can see, the 'official government' of Lebanon is some gaggle of lackeys of the West.  IIRC, the last 'president of Lebanon' had his office (and his ass) in Saudi Arabia much of the time.  It's a Juan Guido type situation.  Even so, they probably don't want to see 80% of the population ethnically cleansed to make way for the Greater Israel project so they'll do anything to avoid going to war.  Most certainly including lying about an Israeli attack using novel weapons of mass destruction.

Hezbollah seems like the real government of Lebanon and who the people trust.  With good reason.  They more than the puppet government wish not to see their people final solution-ed and have stayed relatively mum about things as best I can tell.  Nasrullah, however, has said that 'he knows more about what is where at the port of Haifa than at the port of Beirut.'  And he has a reputation for making good on his promises.  We'll see what happens next.  I would expect fireworks in Jerusalem as trade for the Beirut flash-bang.  Seems more of a fair trade.


The president of Lebanon is christian, so I don't really know what we would do in Saudi Arabia, do you have any source for that ?


Title: Re: Beirut just got nuked it's on the news
Post by: Vod on August 12, 2020, 01:01:06 PM
Nuke would cause mushroom.

Any large explosion will cause a mushroom. It's the most efficient way to spread out all the energy fast.

Just looking at it I am predicting it was some kind of pressurized fuel or liquid fuel tank which was heated by a fire and over pressured.

Guess we can't call you Analyst Techy.   :P

20 shipping containers would cause a cascade of 20 separate explosions..

Not really....  depends on the material strength of the containers compared to the heat and expansion.  Yes, you are correct but the cascade would happen almost as fast as the initial explosion. 


Title: Re: Beirut just got nuked it's on the news
Post by: tvbcof on August 12, 2020, 01:45:32 PM
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The lebanese government admitted it was negligence right ? So there is no need for further theories, as far as Lebanon is concerned, the only thing we can do now is focus on the protests happening right now.

Like I said, Israel wishes to get a full-on war going so they can decimate the population of Lebanon.  As far as I can see, the 'official government' of Lebanon is some gaggle of lackeys of the West.  IIRC, the last 'president of Lebanon' had his office (and his ass) in Saudi Arabia much of the time.  It's a Juan Guido type situation.  Even so, they probably don't want to see 80% of the population ethnically cleansed to make way for the Greater Israel project so they'll do anything to avoid going to war.  Most certainly including lying about an Israeli attack using novel weapons of mass destruction.

Hezbollah seems like the real government of Lebanon and who the people trust.  With good reason.  They more than the puppet government wish not to see their people final solution-ed and have stayed relatively mum about things as best I can tell.  Nasrullah, however, has said that 'he knows more about what is where at the port of Haifa than at the port of Beirut.'  And he has a reputation for making good on his promises.  We'll see what happens next.  I would expect fireworks in Jerusalem as trade for the Beirut flash-bang.  Seems more of a fair trade.



The president of Lebanon is christian, so I don't really know what we would do in Saudi Arabia, do you have any source for that ?

Pfffft!  Almost all of these 'leaders' are Luciferians (usually by way of crypto-jewery) or under control of said.  Certainly that goes for the 'Young Turks' (Donmeh (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C3%B6nmeh)) in Turkey and 'House of Saud' in the ME in straight-up Kabbalist form.  In the West it's more of the 'under control' form via Epstein-esque operations.

  https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/24/world/middleeast/saudi-arabia-saad-hariri-mohammed-bin-salman-lebanon.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/24/world/middleeast/saudi-arabia-saad-hariri-mohammed-bin-salman-lebanon.html)



Title: Re: Beirut just got nuked it's on the news
Post by: elisabetheva on August 12, 2020, 03:03:29 PM
Another country destroyed because of corrupt politicians. After this horrific incident in Lebanon, it was found out that those chemicals were lying in the docks from 2013. The government is to be blamed as they never responded to the letters send by the dock authorities in regards to shifting those chemicals to a secure location.

This is the second country in the middle east which is got destroyed because of Saudia and Iran's proxy war.

If the incident happened because chemicals were indeed found and there was no serious work from the government to remove it, of course it is regrettable that this could have happened because this was a tragedy that could have been avoided if there was serious attention to something that was dangerous so that it could be moved to the safest place. .

but is that the real news? This is still sounding confusing and there is no certainty that can be justified. I hope that events like this will not happen again just because of neglect. what should be inappropriate and worthy will be a disaster.