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I think there is another list of campaign manager in service discussion board which you may have missed. What's the necessity of creating another? However, although the ranking doesn't mean anything, I think you should rank them as per popularity.May be you can create pool with all the candidates and ask everyone to vote for the best.

Your thread doesn't have any difference from these threads below. If you can have a unique column than those threads then it's okay I guess.

Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4412712.0)
List of Campaign Managers Latest Post(Sig & Twitter Campaign) for Bounty Hunter (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2842283.0)
Find your managers (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5228596.0)
Many to add..

Also, this is not related to services, you can move this to service discussion

What is the base of this listing sort? I have not found a sort way of this list.
1. I checked sort by user, but it is not ok.
2. I checked sort by rank, but it is not ok.
3. I checked sort by Thread name, but it is not ok.
4. I checked sort by thread posting date, but it is not ok.
5. I checked sort by trust, but it is not ok.
6. I checked sort by bpip, but it is not ok.

So, random?
It can be served as promotion so will it not give priority of someone according to serial??

First, there is at least 2 active threads listing campaign managers. I don't think another one is needed.
Second, you said that these numbers doesn't means anything, so, maybe it would be better to remove it, because now it looks like ranking.
And there is few names in your list is new for me, like Russlenat or CCMS, who is just Jr. Member.
Also, quite many users in your list haven't managed even single campaign, or they haven't mentioned it in their portfolio. But OK, everyone have start somehow at some point :).

I truly don't understand these comments guys.

Of course, there are already many threads on this topic but I think that one more makes at least no difference or could be even better for the forum as a whole.

Maybe OP will update his thread more frequently, choose different CMs, or do anything else differently as authors of these other already existing threads?

This is an old forum, especially such summaries or topics on statistics are repeating themselves, this does not mean that we have to discourage people from trying only because of it.

I commented only because this isn't the first time when I see something like this happening and I had to deal with this in my own threads also, so I know exactly how discouraged one can be when sees only such comments after he sweated to publish something useful.

Ofc coz at some point you only quoted (or read) the complains. If you will read my post or other post as well, it has some suggestions after the complaining part that he can maintain/let this thread up as long it has unique column, entry, keeping it updated, and etc. As long its not just like a copy on the previous threads/lists. And I know threads like this had to or subject to be repeated soon as there's no updates on the former.

It's none of discouragement. Creating repetitive threads make a forum unproductive. It would be omay if the other threads are back dated already but if I remember correctly, the last one was created months ago. Anyway, OP can continue to update since other threads have less chance to be updated.
OP, you have written BIP which should be BPIP.

Of course, I have read your post and all others (all four  ;)).

I have to admit that your post has at least, some added value (like suggestions) and not only the complaint, but we have only 4 comments and 3 of them are complains (of some sort) about other already existing threads. That is why it seem way too much for me.

We can't publish similar threads but we can posts three times in a row almost this same?

As you can see this thread already caught no attention, now will be forgotten and maybe could have a chance without these comments, who knows?


Are you sure? Let's ask OP if he wasn't discouraged?


Please explain why?

@wwzsocki, my post wasn't just complaint as you call it. I suggested him to remove numbers from OP, because as @Ratimov himself said that it doesn't mean anything :).
As I said, there is at least 2 active threads about same subject and making another one doesn't adds much value to forum because basically, the same informations is repeated there. I don't want to discourage OP, but I think it would best to use search before making such kind of topics. But after all, I don't think that this thread should be deleted and I have nothing against if OP will continue to update it.

Why do you think that this thread will be forgotten? If not these comments, there would be 0 replies here actually and less attention. Everything is in OP's hands it depends what he will continue to do with this topic :).

When there is same topic, we should not create again. If we create again and again same type of topic then it will be run as spam and it will be act as harmful instead of helpful. This type of topic is usually used to help people if there is already a topic then what is the necessary of same topic once again. They just wanted to say this.

There is no BIP site so two typos need to be fixed. BIP to BPIP in the last column of the table. In addition, inside the table, for each manager, BIP link need to be changed to BPIP link.

I suggest that anytime someone makes a list that is not ranked, they order it by UID - older users before newer ones.  :)

It is a good suggestion. I think serial should be sort by any acceptable method for example post creation date, Account creation date, Trust score, rank on bpip, Rank on forum, merit etc. But Op kept it random as per the wish of OP.

bump?

The list is not maintained and hasn't been updated in over two years. Some users on the list don't provide management services anymore and others, like icopress who bumped the topic, aren't in the list at all.

- mprep (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5240571.0) doesn't provide management services anymore and his thread is locked. 
- I am not sure about actmyname (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3382226.0), but no new posts have been made in his campaign thread since 2020.

 
Maybe icopress or someone else can create another similar up-to-date thread if for whatever reason Ratimov is not interested in updating this one.

Another that provides management services is Royse777, who recently bumped his/her thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5328445.msg61171828#msg61171828), although I think it will be a little more difficult for her than for the rest due to her trust page.

There are already a few active, is it necessary to create more lists? Creating more and more will make it less interesting to keep it up to date lol. pugman has a dedicated thread for the management service list although he doesn't update it recently but tranthidung one is up to date including many more services.
Thread by pugman- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4412712.0
By tranthidung- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5406507.0

I didn't know that, so, yes, you are right. We don't need more.

That's surprising. I didn't know that he still does that. The last thing I saw or heard of Royse777 was that he asked those who had him in their trust lists to remove him (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5417295.0). Seems a bit unorthodox to me to ask that and then resume campaign management services.

By the way, why are you referring to Royse777 as "her"? ;D
Did he, I mean she, identify as female somewhere?

That's not the only thing that seems "unorthodox" to me, to say the least. Like presenting herself as a victim of Bitlucy and going supposedly on a cooling off period while was launching a big project hiding her real identity.

Thus my negative tag.



No, it's just that the name sounds feminine to me, like Rose. But she might be gender fluid or something, or some of the other 82 supposed genders.

It feels good to see old threads bumped. How would I have known that LoyceV was a campaign manager?
Can someone point me to a thread of any campaign managed by LoyceV then?
I have something to look out for ;D

I haven't managed campaigns in years. I rejected the ones that asked me because I don't trust them. That's too bad though, because running a low-spam campaign for a honest website is fun.

That's when reputation is valued than the pay.
I found some of your campaign rules that slightly differs from what we see today. Could there be special reasons for them?


What could be the reason. I could see a campaign opening when I don't have the time to copy my btc dress, profile link and more. Typing "reserved" could secure me an early spot till when I'll modify the application.


Today, quality is seen as the length of post. What changed? What time would you have to scrutinise 30 posts by 30 participants.

If you don't have the time to post your Bitcoin address, don't bother applying. You don't drop a letter with your name and "I'll write more later" in the mail when you apply for a job, right? Typing "reserved" means you failed the reading test:

Nothing changed, low-quality campaigns have always done that.

Doing a thorough job as a campaign manager is indeed time consuming.