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Economy => Reputation => Topic started by: Use Your Brain on August 04, 2020, 05:38:13 PM



Title: is it just me?
Post by: Use Your Brain on August 04, 2020, 05:38:13 PM
or are there an awful lot of Russian gamblers getting "scammed" by sportsbet so recent .
so many popping up all of a sudden really makes me wonder


Title: Re: is it just me?
Post by: AB de Royse777 on August 04, 2020, 06:17:29 PM
or are there an awful lot of Russian gamblers getting "scammed" by sportsbet so recent .
so many popping up all of a sudden really makes me wonder
Make you wonder what?
If you have anything to say loudly about it then say it instead of attacking users from a specific region. It's true so many are popping up but without knowing the legitimate information of the individual cases you can not take a side too.



Title: Re: is it just me?
Post by: actmyname on August 04, 2020, 06:33:19 PM
Was there a need to create this thread in 'Scam Accusations'? Gambling, or perhaps Reputation would be more suitable for this topic.
You're not providing an actual accusation. Rather, you are launching off a conjecture based on empirical evidence from anonymous users. I am watching the various cases, by the way, but insulting other people and adding more fuel to the fire doesn't really help.


Title: Re: is it just me?
Post by: Yaunfitda on August 04, 2020, 06:49:45 PM
or are there an awful lot of Russian gamblers getting "scammed" by sportsbet so recent .
so many popping up all of a sudden really makes me wonder
Don't play the race card though, doesn't sounds right. Maybe it's just a coincidence, but we can't really say for certain that Sportsbet or any other online gambling site are "selectively scamming Russian" gamblers.


Title: Re: is it just me?
Post by: adam0991 on August 04, 2020, 06:49:56 PM
I would assume it’s more due to the fact that all these topics are appearing on google, which is bringing new users to the forum to also submit their complaints.

It’s worrying how many, it’s also very concerning how many more who are having the same issue but aren’t here to post it.

Sportsbet.io should really be closing these accounts prior to betting, wouldn’t that make so much more sense?


Title: Re: is it just me?
Post by: ahctpacer on August 04, 2020, 07:05:44 PM
Why put so much font weight into certain words and phrases? Did Rigor1899, neymarjr12 and saturent took the same English class or that's just a Russian thing?

These look the same:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5266016.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5263445.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5266626.0


neymarjr12 deposits 0.5 btc and immeadiately makes 30+ bets within 4 hours with high stakes up to 80mbtc
saturent deposits 0.5 btc and immeadiately generates high volume of bets in a short period of time with stakes up to 53mbtc


Why hurry to make so many bets?


Title: Re: is it just me?
Post by: TalkStar on August 04, 2020, 07:23:11 PM
I am watching the various cases, by the way, but insulting other people and adding more fuel to the fire doesn't really help.
Yeah,,,It was really unnecessary to create a topic again.  

Don't play the race card though, doesn't sounds right. Maybe it's just a coincidence, but we can't really say for certain that Sportsbet or any other online gambling site are "selectively scamming Russian" gamblers.
Agree with you. If sportbet authority is taking action against some russian gambler for violating their rules then it doesn’t mean that they are doing this selectively. Sportsbet is running their business for a long time and have enough popularity. I don't think they have any specific issues with russian people or taking actions selectively against them.        


Title: Re: is it just me?
Post by: Use Your Brain on August 04, 2020, 07:35:52 PM
Why put so much font weight into certain words and phrases? Did Rigor1899, neymarjr12 and saturent took the same English class or that's just a Russian thing?

These look the same:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5266016.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5263445.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5266626.0


neymarjr12 deposits 0.5 btc and immeadiately makes 30+ bets within 4 hours with high stakes up to 80mbtc
saturent deposits 0.5 btc and immeadiately generates high volume of bets in a short period of time with stakes up to 53mbtc


Why hurry to make so many bets?


glad  its not just me who sees this


Title: Re: is it just me?
Post by: mindrust on August 04, 2020, 07:36:01 PM
Is it only me? I am seeing far too many newbie accounts are either getting scammed or playing forum politics.

If you tell us who's alt you are first, then maybe we can give a fuck about what you think later.


Title: Re: is it just me?
Post by: actmyname on August 04, 2020, 08:17:06 PM
neymarjr12 deposits 0.5 btc and immeadiately makes 30+ bets within 4 hours with high stakes up to 80mbtc
saturent deposits 0.5 btc and immeadiately generates high volume of bets in a short period of time with stakes up to 53mbtc


Why hurry to make so many bets?
What else are you going to do with a casino balance?

Let's consider it from a gambler's point of view and not a skeptic's point of view so you can understand an empathetic perspective:
A gambler decides they want to place bets on several matches. They determine the amount of Bitcoins they want to wager. They deposit to Sportsbet.io and subsequently place their bets.
If I'm betting with significant figures, then I have no problem with depositing in chunks to separate my sessions and to ensure that I don't bet more than I'm willing to lose.


Title: Re: is it just me?
Post by: Pffrt on August 04, 2020, 08:28:24 PM
Where did you get the info that all of them are from Russia? I'm also surprised abd a bit confused to see claim against sportsbet and what's the reason actually. Is it because no one question their 1st move? or because they all were alt? Totally confused.


Title: Re: Is it just me?
Post by: Timelord2067 on August 04, 2020, 10:32:11 PM
Is it just me or are these two alts of each-other?

Code:
Name: 	ahctpacer
Posts: 4
Activity: 4
Merit: 0
Position: Newbie
Date Registered: 25 July 2020, 23:39:19
Last Active: Today at 05:10:47

Code:
Name: 	Use Your Brain
Posts: 5
Activity: 5
Merit: 0
Position: Newbie
Date Registered: 27 July 2020, 01:55:19
Last Active: Today at 06:01:12

...or even this one?

Code:
Name: 	adam0991
Posts: 32
Activity: 28
Merit: 2
Position: Newbie
Date Registered: 12 July 2020, 01:02:20
Last Active: Today at 08:07:30



Title: Re: Is it just me?
Post by: suchmoon on August 04, 2020, 10:48:24 PM
Is it just me or are these two alts of each-other?

They must be. Both have numbers and letters on their user profiles.


Title: Re: Is it just me?
Post by: Timelord2067 on August 04, 2020, 10:56:11 PM
Is it just me or are these two alts of each-other?

They must be. Both have numbers and letters on their user profiles.

Now remember what I told you the other day - you say a silly thing = I say a silly thing. @ibminer @suchmoon


Title: Re: is it just me?
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on August 04, 2020, 11:15:06 PM
I don't think OP meant any harm by his mention of Russian gamblers, if they even are Russian, or that sportsbet is selectively targeting them.  Not sure why some members are reacting so strongly to that.


Is it only me? I am seeing far too many newbie accounts are either getting scammed or playing forum politics.
My first thought was what adam0991 articulated:

I would assume it’s more due to the fact that all these topics are appearing on google, which is bringing new users to the forum to also submit their complaints.

My gut feeling is telling me this isn't a case of a bunch of alt accounts ganging up on a casino, though I certainly could be wrong.  And since there have been a couple other threads from users reporting problems with sportsbet, I bet the newbies were probably directed here via a web search.  Hell, that's how I discovered the forum.