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Economy => Web Wallets => Topic started by: BlackHatCoiner on August 06, 2020, 08:18:13 AM



Title: Bitcoin.com, the scammest wallet I've ever seen
Post by: BlackHatCoiner on August 06, 2020, 08:18:13 AM
Hi, so I have a client that wants to pay me 10$. He wants to pay with bitcoin. Okay.

When we reach the time to send me the money look what happens:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/740182003080495136/740844104178729011/SVID_20200806_120920_1.mp4

He pastes the address I own and he doesn't allow him to continue? Why?


Title: Re: Bitcoin.com, the scammest wallet I've ever seen
Post by: mindrust on August 06, 2020, 08:20:37 AM
Upload it on youtube or something. Don't freak out people by making them downloading shit.


Title: Re: Bitcoin.com, the scammest wallet I've ever seen
Post by: BlackHatCoiner on August 06, 2020, 08:21:49 AM
Upload it on youtube or something. Don't freak out people by making them downloading shit.

I'm from mobile right now. Otherwise, I would upload it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin.com, the scammest wallet I've ever seen
Post by: Poker Player on August 06, 2020, 08:25:15 AM
I've seen the video but I don't get it. You try to send bitcoin using a QR code but then it says you have 0 bitcoin to send or what?


Title: Re: Bitcoin.com, the scammest wallet I've ever seen
Post by: mk4 on August 06, 2020, 08:25:44 AM
Yea.. I suggest editing your post once you get home. Probably upload a gif[1] of it instead so we wouldn't need to open links.

I agree that Bitcoin.com is bad though, without even seeing your vid.


[1] https://ezgif.com/video-to-gif

EDIT:

He pastes the address I own and he doesn't allow him to continue? Why?

Ok I got too curious so I downloaded the vid on a VM. Not sure if I get it, but probably because the wallet doesn't support sending to Bech32 addresses? More of a bad wallet than a scammy one. Not sure why it says 0 though.

EDIT #2: ok I don't get it. Probably explain what's happening lol.

EDIT #3: so he's the one who's sending, right? then why did he ended up tapping "my wallets" then picking a "receiving wallet"? I don't get it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin.com, the scammest wallet I've ever seen
Post by: BlackHatCoiner on August 06, 2020, 08:51:05 AM
It seems that my bech32 address was the fault. I will never generate one similar again. Only segwits.


Title: Re: Bitcoin.com, the scammest wallet I've ever seen
Post by: mk4 on August 06, 2020, 08:58:59 AM
It seems that my bech32 address was the fault. I will never generate one similar again. Only segwits.

I suggest using native segwit(bech32) addresses anyway for your other transactions as the fees are even lower. It's just the case that the wallet that your client is using sucks.


Title: Re: Bitcoin.com, the scammest wallet I've ever seen
Post by: logfiles on August 06, 2020, 09:28:18 AM
Why do you support the bitcoin.com folks?
They are BCH shills who claim Bitcoin Cash is the real bitcoin and BTCitcoin is supposed to be called bitcoin core there by confusing newbies into buying Bitcoin cash

In your pasted address i saw the word "bitcoin:" in front of the address. Maybe you should remove the word for it to work
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/07/19/Zxhmj.png


Title: Re: Bitcoin.com, the scammest wallet I've ever seen
Post by: BlackHatCoiner on August 06, 2020, 09:35:16 AM
I don't support it. The guy that sent me that video uses bitcoin.com

"bitcoin:" didn't matter to put it or not.


Title: Re: Bitcoin.com, the scammest wallet I've ever seen
Post by: rexxarofmoknathal on August 06, 2020, 09:43:10 AM
It seems that my bech32 address was the fault. I will never generate one similar again. Only segwits.

I suggest using native segwit(bech32) addresses anyway for your other transactions as the fees are even lower. It's just the case that the wallet that your client is using sucks.
You should avoid using non native segwit addresses, never had any issues with them and works on many different wallets. The one you're trying to use is not a preference of mine and these are the 2 main reasons why (source (http://bitcoins.net/wallets/bitcoincom-review)):
- No automatic password protection and 2FA authentication.
- No customer support.


Title: Re: Bitcoin.com, the scammest wallet I've ever seen
Post by: Maus0728 on August 06, 2020, 10:26:57 AM
It seems that my bech32 address was the fault. I will never generate one similar again. Only segwits.

I suggest using native segwit(bech32) addresses anyway for your other transactions as the fees are even lower. It's just the case that the wallet that your client is using sucks.
You should avoid using non native segwit addresses, never had any issues with them and works on many different wallets.
Hmm I think that's inaccurate, he should avoid the use of native segwit address  or bech32. The main reason why bitcoin.com rejects broadcasting of the bitcoin transaction is that It does not support the use of the newest bech32 bitcoin address script type. It would be better to convince your client that the use of such wallet where bech32 is unsupported is a huge red flag, it just means that they are not complying with the newest upgrade that is implemented which makes them vulnerable to become obsolete for future use.

[1] https://support.bitcoin.com/en/articles/3542817-where-can-i-find-my-bitcoin-address#:~:text=Your%20address%20will%20be%20the,your%20Bitcoin%20(BTC)%20wallet.

The articles simply states that they only accept addresses that starts with "1" or "3" which are legacy and non native segwit address.


Title: Re: Bitcoin.com, the scammest wallet I've ever seen
Post by: mk4 on August 06, 2020, 04:07:13 PM
You should avoid using non native segwit addresses, never had any issues with them and works on many different wallets. The one you're trying to use is not a preference of mine and these are the 2 main reasons why (source (http://bitcoins.net/wallets/bitcoincom-review)):
- No automatic password protection and 2FA authentication.
- No customer support.

Err.. your last 2 points actually got me quite worried. What wallet are you actually personally using? Having used a good number of wallets, I don't remember one with 2FA, or even an active customer support. 🤔


Title: Re: Bitcoin.com, the scammest wallet I've ever seen
Post by: bob123 on August 06, 2020, 05:47:20 PM
It seems that my bech32 address was the fault. I will never generate one similar again. Only segwits.

No, not bech32 / segwit is at fault, but the wallet provider who didn't update his software for more than 2.5 years.
I wouldn't use any software without such an important update for more than 2.5 years.

Obviously you are not at fault in this case, but the person using a scammer website from someone trying to deceive people into believing the shitcoin BCH is the real bitcoin.

All you can (or better: should) do is to tell the person that this website is a pure scam and he should either stop using web wallets at all (best) or at least switch to a more reputable one which received updates within the last 3 years.


Title: Re: Bitcoin.com, the scammest wallet I've ever seen
Post by: BlackHatCoiner on August 09, 2020, 12:53:56 PM
It seems that my bech32 address was the fault. I will never generate one similar again. Only segwits.

Bech32 is SegWit (to be precise, it's native SegWit). When you're talking about "only SegWit", you meant P2SH-SegWit which address starts with 3...

All you can (or better: should) do is to tell the person that this website is a pure scam and he should either stop using web wallets at all (best) or at least switch to a more reputable one which received updates within the last 3 years.

Suggesting specific wallet in mind (such as Electrum) is even better, since it's possible that person might use another crap wallet.

Do P2SH-Segwits pay lower fee? Instead with those who start with 1 or bc1


Title: Re: Bitcoin.com, the scammest wallet I've ever seen
Post by: mindrust on August 09, 2020, 01:10:58 PM
Do P2SH-Segwits pay lower fee? Instead with those who start with 1 or bc1

bc1 (native segwit) pays the lowest fee possible. Especially if the transaction is from "bc1" to "bc1" address. The disadvantage of bc1 addresses is, some asshole businesses refuse to adopt it.

If you always want to be on the safe side and pay low fees, always use the segwit addresses that start with 3...


Title: Re: Bitcoin.com, the scammest wallet I've ever seen
Post by: BlackHatCoiner on August 09, 2020, 01:49:30 PM
Do P2SH-Segwits pay lower fee? Instead with those who start with 1 or bc1

bc1 (native segwit) pays the lowest fee possible. Especially if the transaction is from "bc1" to "bc1" address. The disadvantage of bc1 addresses is, some asshole businesses refuse to adopt it.

If you always want to be on the safe side and pay low fees, always use the segwit addresses that start with 3...

Can you create them on electrum too? Because I can only see that it creates 1 and bc1.


Title: Re: Bitcoin.com, the scammest wallet I've ever seen
Post by: mindrust on August 09, 2020, 01:59:42 PM
Do P2SH-Segwits pay lower fee? Instead with those who start with 1 or bc1

bc1 (native segwit) pays the lowest fee possible. Especially if the transaction is from "bc1" to "bc1" address. The disadvantage of bc1 addresses is, some asshole businesses refuse to adopt it.

If you always want to be on the safe side and pay low fees, always use the segwit addresses that start with 3...

Can you create them on electrum too? Because I can only see that it creates 1 and bc1.

You can but it is a bit tricky.

1- Create a new wallet and write your seed words down.
2- Restore your wallet: File > New/Restore > Standard Wallet > I have the seeds
3- Paste down your seed words> Options > check Bip39 seed > ignore the warning
4- In the next screen, select the middle check box (p2-wpkh p2sh)

Check your addresses and you'll see only 3... addresses


Title: Re: Bitcoin.com, the scammest wallet I've ever seen
Post by: BlackHatCoiner on August 09, 2020, 02:09:18 PM
Can you also tell me how to generate thousands of addresses at once? It seems that I can't do it from the console. (From some other topics I've read)

Edit: Nevermind, I found the way.


Title: Re: Bitcoin.com, the scammest wallet I've ever seen
Post by: mindrust on August 09, 2020, 02:25:13 PM
Can you also tell me how to generate thousands of addresses at once? It seems that I can't do it from the console. (From some other topics I've read)

Edit: Nevermind, I found the way.

Sounds like you are after the big prize. Good luck with finding a non-empty address.  8)


Title: Re: Bitcoin.com, the scammest wallet I've ever seen
Post by: BlackHatCoiner on August 09, 2020, 02:33:23 PM
Can you also tell me how to generate thousands of addresses at once? It seems that I can't do it from the console. (From some other topics I've read)

Edit: Nevermind, I found the way.

Sounds like you are after the big prize. Good luck with finding a non-empty address.  8)

Nope, I would never try that. (Since I've tried it once ^^)

I just want to generate thousands of them, so I can give them to my clients. One address to one client. (Calm down, I don't have thousands of clients  ;D)

I don't want 3rd party services to rule my business. Like coinbase.