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Title: New York Attorney General sues to DISSOLVE NRA Post by: squatz1 on August 06, 2020, 04:48:14 PM New York state has been probing into the NRA and just announced a lawsuit against the organization. They've cited that the NRA has diveted tens of millions of funds, mismanaged funds, and that they've overall violated their nonprofit status. They've alleged that they've broken a multitude of both state and federal laws. Here are some quotes from the artcle, link will be below.
Among the allegations against the 70-year-old Mr. LaPierre, a national figure who has run the NRA for three decades: That he spent $3.6 million of NRA funds over the last two years on unwarranted travel consultants, flew family members on NRA-paid private jets when he wasn’t aboard and secured a $17 million post-employment contract for himself without board approval. He also allegedly took eight trips to the Bahamas by private air charter, costing the NRA more than $500,000, according to the press release. Once there, he allegedly often was given the use of a 107-foot yacht owned by an NRA vendor, the release said. In the lawsuit, the attorney general’s office is seeking restitution from the individual defendants, removal of Mr. LaPierre and the group’s general counsel from their positions, and to have the defendants barred from ever serving again as directors of a New York-registered charity. The response by the NRA is as follows: The NRA has strongly defended its governance practices in previous interviews with The Wall Street Journal. NRA attorney William A. Brewer III, at the time the attorney general’s investigation became public in April 2019, said the group “has full confidence in its accounting practices and commitment to good governance.”] Many know that due to the NRA's influence and partisanship (obviously), this is going to cause a partisan uproar. The President had already chimed in when it was announced and said that it was a terrible thing to hear that this was happening. Some have warned (from the article linked above) that due to the NY AG doing this other states may end up doing the same thing to liberal charities. Obviously this is politically motivated and the AG cares more about taking down someone as big as the NRA for their own ambition, but I do think that rooting out this sort of bullshit in charities is a good idea. I'd just like to see it done for ALL charities, not just political ones as attacks on the other side. Title: Re: New York Attorney General sues to DISSOLVE NRA Post by: franky1 on August 06, 2020, 05:28:06 PM easy law to create
no 'non-profit' employee should earn more than a senators salary(<$200k) no 'non profit' employee should receive benefits/gratuities more then $10k per event/individual no combined gratuities should surpass the salary amount Title: Re: New York Attorney General sues to DISSOLVE NRA Post by: Juggy777 on August 07, 2020, 10:25:52 AM New York state has been probing into the NRA and just announced a lawsuit against the organization. They've cited that the NRA has diveted tens of millions of funds, mismanaged funds, and that they've overall violated their nonprofit status. They've alleged that they've broken a multitude of both state and federal laws. Here are some quotes from the artcle, link will be below. Among the allegations against the 70-year-old Mr. LaPierre, a national figure who has run the NRA for three decades: That he spent $3.6 million of NRA funds over the last two years on unwarranted travel consultants, flew family members on NRA-paid private jets when he wasn’t aboard and secured a $17 million post-employment contract for himself without board approval. He also allegedly took eight trips to the Bahamas by private air charter, costing the NRA more than $500,000, according to the press release. Once there, he allegedly often was given the use of a 107-foot yacht owned by an NRA vendor, the release said. In the lawsuit, the attorney general’s office is seeking restitution from the individual defendants, removal of Mr. LaPierre and the group’s general counsel from their positions, and to have the defendants barred from ever serving again as directors of a New York-registered charity. The response by the NRA is as follows: The NRA has strongly defended its governance practices in previous interviews with The Wall Street Journal. NRA attorney William A. Brewer III, at the time the attorney general’s investigation became public in April 2019, said the group “has full confidence in its accounting practices and commitment to good governance.”] Many know that due to the NRA's influence and partisanship (obviously), this is going to cause a partisan uproar. The President had already chimed in when it was announced and said that it was a terrible thing to hear that this was happening. Some have warned (from the article linked above) that due to the NY AG doing this other states may end up doing the same thing to liberal charities. Obviously this is politically motivated and the AG cares more about taking down someone as big as the NRA for their own ambition, but I do think that rooting out this sort of bullshit in charities is a good idea. I'd just like to see it done for ALL charities, not just political ones as attacks on the other side. @squatz1 this case is 100% politically motivated because they have no real intention of taking NRA down, and they have only filed the case in an election year to hurt Trumps image as he’s a known supporter of the NRA. Also I don’t expect NRA to be worried about this case because of Trumps support, but if Trump were to loose then things could get nasty for them don’t you think so?. Quote The Republican president - a vocal defender of the Second Amendment - has been allied with the NRA since he launched his campaign for president. "I think the NRA should move to Texas and lead a very good and beautiful life," Mr Trump said on Thursday. "Texas would be a great place, or to another state of their choosing." Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53684033 Title: Re: New York Attorney General sues to DISSOLVE NRA Post by: BADecker on August 07, 2020, 10:45:25 AM No organization does anything except if all of their members agree. It is always people who do things. Dissolving an organization is the wrong way. Rather, sue the people who did criminal activity.
What are we trying to do? Shut down every organization because some worker or supervisor walked off with some product out the back door? We would have to shut down all of the United States government and all of the companies and corporations. 8) Title: Re: New York Attorney General sues to DISSOLVE NRA Post by: Gyfts on August 07, 2020, 11:47:58 AM The NRA's weird. They tweeted pictures of guns on a heart for valentines day on their social media accounts. I personally can't think of anything more romantic than a glock 19.
Title: Re: New York Attorney General sues to DISSOLVE NRA Post by: Spendulus on August 07, 2020, 02:39:50 PM The NRA's weird. They tweeted pictures of guns on a heart for valentines day on their social media accounts. I personally can't think of anything more romantic than a glock 19. With some spare mags? Title: Re: New York Attorney General sues to DISSOLVE NRA Post by: PrimeNumber7 on August 07, 2020, 05:31:46 PM This is one more example as to why qualified immunity should be repealed for all government officials, and replaced with a high threshold for officials to be held personally accountable for their actions.
The lawsuit is transparently political and she is using the government to attack her political enemies. While campaigning, she called the NRA a “terrorist organization” and she clearly had a preconceived outcome before the investigation started. Title: Re: New York Attorney General sues to DISSOLVE NRA Post by: Spendulus on August 07, 2020, 05:45:40 PM This is one more example as to why qualified immunity should be repealed for all government officials, and replaced with a high threshold for officials to be held personally accountable for their actions. The lawsuit is transparently political and she is using the government to attack her political enemies. While campaigning, she called the NRA a “terrorist organization” and she clearly had a preconceived outcome before the investigation started. The NRA is most welcome to move it's corporate charter from New York, hostiles to guns, to any number of states who would welcome such things. Title: Re: New York Attorney General sues to DISSOLVE NRA Post by: BADecker on August 07, 2020, 07:36:37 PM 'You could have set your watch by it': NRA counter-sues New York Attorney General and claims her lawsuit trying to dismantle their organization is a 'premeditated attack' deliberately timed to thwart Trump's reelection chances.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8600823/New-York-AG-Letitia-James-sues-dissolve-NRA.html 8) Title: Re: New York Attorney General sues to DISSOLVE NRA Post by: TECSHARE on August 07, 2020, 10:21:23 PM Quick everyone look over there at the NRA! No one look at Black Lives Matters "non-profit organization" status.
Title: Re: New York Attorney General sues to DISSOLVE NRA Post by: Coining26 on August 07, 2020, 11:46:14 PM And of course the government wants to stick its hands where they don't belong this time on the "Big Old Evil" NRA.
Look how the NRA does its business is its own business and the state should butt out. Yeah the NRA is a lousy gun rights organization but to want to shut it down because "it doesn't run itself properly" is ridiculous. Government = Problems. Title: Re: New York Attorney General sues to DISSOLVE NRA Post by: BADecker on August 08, 2020, 12:06:58 AM Quick everyone look over there at the NRA! No one look at Black Lives Matters "non-profit organization" status. Perhaps the NRA is upholding the guns that BLM uses. 8) Title: Re: New York Attorney General sues to DISSOLVE NRA Post by: PrimeNumber7 on August 08, 2020, 05:32:47 AM This is one more example as to why qualified immunity should be repealed for all government officials, and replaced with a high threshold for officials to be held personally accountable for their actions. The lawsuit is transparently political and she is using the government to attack her political enemies. While campaigning, she called the NRA a “terrorist organization” and she clearly had a preconceived outcome before the investigation started. The NRA is most welcome to move it's corporate charter from New York, hostiles to guns, to any number of states who would welcome such things. Quick everyone look over there at the NRA! No one look at Black Lives Matters "non-profit organization" status. My guess is that if BLM does not even come close to following the law regarding their not for profit status. They likely are incorporated in a safe Democratic area, so state AGs will not investigate them, and any attempt of the DOJ trying to investigate BLM would likely quickly leak, would be condemned by the propaganda media, and evidence would be destroyed. |