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Title: The BTC Times: A new Bitcoin News Site
Post by: mk4 on August 09, 2020, 08:47:38 AM

Just wanted to share what I found on the Twitterz.

So it looks like a new Bitcoin new site is born, which is led by board members Jameson Lopp, Lina Seiche(Samson Mow's girlfriend), Aaron Van Wirdum, Giacomo Zucco, etc.; with investors Samson Mow(Blockstream), Charlie Lee(Litecoin founder), Riccardo Spagni(Monero lead maintainer), etc.[1]

Reading only a few of their top stories(sidebar), it seems to be one of the better Bitcoin "news" sites as their posts seems A LOT less clickbait-y, and with actual good information.

While it's all good and all that, while I think the people in charge will use this platform for good, I'm just ever so sliiiightly worried that Samson Mow and company is slowly but surely getting a bit too much authority in the Bitcoin space. Idk, I'm probably just overthinking it and being a bit too pessimistic though.

What do you think?

https://btctimes.com/

P.S. They managed to get a hold of the @btc Twitter handle. Cool.

Obligatory I'm not affiliated with the website and yadda yadda.


https://i.imgur.com/mKhRj9t.png https://i.imgur.com/MemwhIv.png https://i.imgur.com/GUkk4nA.png


[1] https://www.btctimes.com/news/cutting-through-the-noise

Tweet links:
  • https://twitter.com/btc/status/1292160378609123329
  • https://twitter.com/Excellion/status/1292318813065580545
  • https://twitter.com/Excellion/status/1292319609635262465


Title: Re: The BTC Times: A new Bitcoin News Site
Post by: davis196 on August 09, 2020, 11:10:30 AM
I don't read Cryptocurrency news websites anymore.I got tired of all the clickbait,fake news and infomercials.
However,I might give BTCtimes a chance,if they keep their promise and try to deliver interesting content.
Some members of the team behind BTCtimes are close to big altcoin projects like Litecoin and Monero,this raises some reg flags and makes me think that this is going to just another "Bitcoin kinda sucks,check our altcoins!" type of "news" website.Let's hope that this might not happen.



Title: Re: The BTC Times: A new Bitcoin News Site
Post by: UserU on August 09, 2020, 11:14:51 AM
I don't read Cryptocurrency news websites anymore.I got tired of all the clickbait,fake news and infomercials.
However,I might give BTCtimes a chance,if they keep their promise and try to deliver interesting content.
Some members of the team behind BTCtimes are close to big altcoin projects like Litecoin and Monero,this raises some reg flags and makes me think that this is going to just another "Bitcoin kinda sucks,check our altcoins!" type of "news" website.Let's hope that this might not happen.



Time will tell. Usually new sites would start off okay-ish, until the revenue starts pouring in then there may be changes in the direction ;)


Title: Re: The BTC Times: A new Bitcoin News Site
Post by: mk4 on August 09, 2020, 12:29:36 PM
Yeap. I definitely have a lot more confidence with this one as the "board members" are actually people that are reputable in this space.

I just tried open their website and my browser shows warning with error code "SSL_ERROR_BAD_CERT_DOMAIN", which left bad first impression.
Weird. Was working for me at the time I posted this, and it's still working at the moment. Probably was a short downtime.


Title: Re: The BTC Times: A new Bitcoin News Site
Post by: UserU on August 09, 2020, 12:39:27 PM
Finally they've installed the SSL cert. Previously the site was running on HTTP.


Title: Re: The BTC Times: A new Bitcoin News Site
Post by: DooMAD on August 09, 2020, 12:53:44 PM
I sometimes worry that all media is effectively predestined to reach a stage where the money becomes more important than the journalistic integrity.  Almost all of the other cryptomedia sites are absolute trash because of this.  I hope this one doesn't follow suit, but my experience seems to suggest otherwise.  Fingers crossed, I guess.  I'll give 'em the benefit of the doubt for now.


Title: Re: The BTC Times: A new Bitcoin News Site
Post by: mk4 on August 09, 2020, 01:15:39 PM
I sometimes worry that all media is effectively predestined to reach a stage where the money becomes more important than the journalistic integrity.  Almost all of the other cryptomedia sites are absolute trash because of this.  I hope this one doesn't follow suit, but my experience seems to suggest otherwise.  Fingers crossed, I guess.  I'll give 'em the benefit of the doubt for now.

Yeah, I pretty much have the same thoughts not only with BTC Times but with all sites in general. It's likely that at some point they will be making good amounts of money and they'll sacrifice quality for quantity. It's quite a pessimistic way of looking at things, but more realistic in my opinion.


Title: Re: The BTC Times: A new Bitcoin News Site
Post by: 20kevin20 on August 09, 2020, 01:38:10 PM
A constant thirst of power & money. I always take all this stuff with a large grain of salt rather than be excited about it. It scares me when I see larger crypto-related compabies trying to get into all domains. Like, Binance's CZ doesn't bother me at all for now running exchanges, crypto price listing websites and even hardware wallets under his company but it does become a huge privacy issue if he ever decides to cooperate with governments or turn everything into something similar to what Facebook and Google are today.

I wish I was optimistic whenever I saw these kind of news, but I just can't. This is the nature of humanity - once you get the taste of money, you'll only want more.


Title: Re: The BTC Times: A new Bitcoin News Site
Post by: Lucius on August 09, 2020, 02:11:52 PM
When I look at who is behind the project, at first it seems like a very interesting team, especially Jameson Lopp (https://www.lopp.net/) which is known to me personally because of its testing project (metal seed plates/devices).

Personally, I very rarely visit crypto news sites because mostly there can be found quite poor quality content, and anyway everything that is relevant and interesting will be published on the forum. There is no basis to say how this news site will work and whether it will be any different from the others, but I think everyone deserves a chance to prove themselves.


Title: Re: The BTC Times: A new Bitcoin News Site
Post by: amishmanish on August 09, 2020, 02:30:16 PM
All these people are pretty much well-wishers of bitcoin. Samson Mow is just a well known name on twitter due to his association with blockstream. He and Coblee also seem to be one of the "approachable" people in bitcoin, compared to a lot of others who are either too intimidating or privacy oriented. These two guys frequently lighten up the conversations.
The website was loading a little slow. What the hell is B2G?? LOL. Bitcoin market capitalization vs gold. Neat boast there to clarify intentions. A few heavy-weights coming together to take a stand for better media representation must be hailed as a welcome move. Like, like.


Title: Re: The BTC Times: A new Bitcoin News Site
Post by: mk4 on August 09, 2020, 02:37:49 PM
*snip*

I wish I was optimistic whenever I saw these kind of news, but I just can't. This is the nature of humanity - once you get the taste of money, you'll only want more.

While there's a non-zero chance that their intentions aren't 100% good and while we definitely have the right to be skeptical, I don't think we should come to conclusions that quickly either.

To be fair, it's not Samson Mow alone. It consists of a good number of people. Hopefully one of them does a whistle-blower move if ever something shady happens.


Title: Re: The BTC Times: A new Bitcoin News Site
Post by: kryptqnick on August 09, 2020, 02:56:13 PM
I haven't heard of the website, so thanks for sharing. While it's impressive that big names stand behind it, given that they are parties interested in the prosperity of their own projects, it's reasonable to assume that this website is bound to be biased. I don't like how their logo doesn't feature the Bitcoin kind of B with serif, but other than that the website looks nice. Clearly, they are just starting as there isn't much content on the website, but there's a chance this will become a mainstream crypto news website. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what becomes of it.


Title: Re: The BTC Times: A new Bitcoin News Site
Post by: RapTarX on August 09, 2020, 04:41:03 PM
While it's all good and all that, while I think the people in charge will use this platform for good, I'm just ever so sliiiightly worried that Samson Mow and company is slowly but surely getting a bit too much authority in the Bitcoin space. Idk, I'm probably just overthinking it and being a bit too pessimistic though.
What are you exactly worried of? I guess there's nothing to worry about Samson Mow to have much authority is Bitcoin space. Do you think that he can influence people to believe that BCH is real bitcoin someday? No, I guess. Therefore, nothing to worry about IMO.


Title: Re: The BTC Times: A new Bitcoin News Site
Post by: bL4nkcode on August 09, 2020, 04:44:25 PM
if they keep their promise and try to deliver interesting content.
Soon as news/media website accepts paid press release then those interesting content will be no good.

Encountered this while accessing the site. idk why then don't fix it for just an ssl error.

https://i.ibb.co/tz1n6Bv/btctimes.png
I'm using firefox btw.


Title: Re: The BTC Times: A new Bitcoin News Site
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on August 09, 2020, 06:47:46 PM
The site is completely broken on Tor - all I'm getting is a logo and menu bar at the top, followed by a page of black. This is the same on every link I click on from the menu bar. When trying to access it outside of Tor I also get an invalid SSL certificate warning.

Not a good first impression all round. Perhaps they should have actually tested their website before launching it.

I don't read any crypto "news" sites because they are, without fail, clickbait trash designed to make the owners money and will "report" any old spam without even the slightest bit of fact checking or journalistic integrity. You can get better news from this forum than you can from these sites. I would give this one a go simply because of the names behind it, but they are going to have to fix their site first.


Title: Re: The BTC Times: A new Bitcoin News Site
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on August 09, 2020, 07:22:35 PM
While it's all good and all that, while I think the people in charge will use this platform for good, I'm just ever so sliiiightly worried that Samson Mow and company is slowly but surely getting a bit too much authority in the Bitcoin space.
I don't know who Samson Mow is--that's the first time I've heard his name.  That probably goes to show you that I need to start paying attention to crypto news (lol).  But in any case, it doesn't sound like he's the top dog at this news org so I'd just wait and see what happens if I were you.

I don't read Cryptocurrency news websites anymore.I got tired of all the clickbait,fake news and infomercials.
I don't either, and for precisely the same reason.  In addition, I don't know anything about who's running these crypto news sites and they could very well be used for nefarious purposes, like pump and dump schemes and such.  It isn't as though any of them have a long track record or an extensive reputation for honesty and being unbiased.

The BTC Times does sound interesting, and I might give it a shot.  I'm not really interested in the personalities in the bitcoin world, and a lot of news sites tend to structure their stories around the big shots in bitcoin and the rest of the cyrpto world.  Hopefully that won't  be the case, and I also hope it doesn't turn into a bunch of click-baity nonsense if it doesn't get as much viewership as it was expecting.


Title: Re: The BTC Times: A new Bitcoin News Site
Post by: newIndia on August 09, 2020, 07:51:16 PM
While it's all good and all that, while I think the people in charge will use this platform for good, I'm just ever so sliiiightly worried that Samson Mow and company is slowly but surely getting a bit too much authority in the Bitcoin space.
I don't know who Samson Mow is--that's the first time I've heard his name.  That probably goes to show you that I need to start paying attention to crypto news (lol).  But in any case, it doesn't sound like he's the top dog at this news org so I'd just wait and see what happens if I were you.
Ex-employee of BTCC. Twitter bio says CSO @Blockstream, CEO @Pixelmatic, creator of @InfiniteFleet, 25% of @magicalcrypto. Except for Blockstream, I have not heard of any of the either.

https://twitter.com/Excellion


Title: Re: The BTC Times: A new Bitcoin News Site
Post by: hatshepsut93 on August 09, 2020, 08:25:27 PM
I only visit Coindesk when I'm curious to see what's going on in crypto, maybe this site would be a good alternative to it, but it seems to be focused 100% on Bitcoin, which is kinda bad for me, because I'm always a bit curious what's happening with alts, because it's always good to know what's happening on the crypto market as a whole.

I don't know who Samson Mow is--that's the first time I've heard his name.  That probably goes to show you that I need to start paying attention to crypto news (lol).  But in any case, it doesn't sound like he's the top dog at this news org so I'd just wait and see what happens if I were you.


He's pretty big on Bitcoin twitter, and he has a podcast together with fluffypony (lead dev of Monero), Charlie Lee and other guys.


Title: Re: The BTC Times: A new Bitcoin News Site
Post by: ChiBitCTy on August 09, 2020, 11:54:22 PM
I like the outlay of the website and the user friendliness of it and what not, it does seem to be a bit less "click-batey" as well, but it obviously lacks in information/ articles / opinion pieces etc.  Looks like it could have a nice future ahead of it though.


Title: Re: The BTC Times: A new Bitcoin News Site
Post by: mk4 on August 10, 2020, 12:34:32 AM
What are you exactly worried of? I guess there's nothing to worry about Samson Mow to have much authority is Bitcoin space. Do you think that he can influence people to believe that BCH is real bitcoin someday? No, I guess. Therefore, nothing to worry about IMO.
Too much power of a certain authority. You really think that people shilling BCH is the only problem that we can have in this space? lol

it does seem to be a bit less "click-batey" as well, but it obviously lacks in information/ articles / opinion pieces etc.
Well, it's a new website, just to be fair.


Title: Re: The BTC Times: A new Bitcoin News Site
Post by: philipma1957 on August 10, 2020, 01:06:33 AM
I will give it a read. Thank you.


Title: Re: The BTC Times: A new Bitcoin News Site
Post by: pooya87 on August 10, 2020, 03:17:31 AM
I just tried open their website and my browser shows warning with error code "SSL_ERROR_BAD_CERT_DOMAIN", which left bad first impression.
Weird. Was working for me at the time I posted this, and it's still working at the moment. Probably was a short downtime.

the site's certificate says it started yesterday (is valid from 2020-08-09 to 2021-09-08) so it either didn't have a certificate or just renewed it. since it is a new site maybe it didn't have any.

I don't know who Samson Mow is--that's the first time I've heard his name. 
just another centralized mind who's involved in a lot of centralized companies such as blockstream, BTCC,... and is here to make money...


Title: Re: The BTC Times: A new Bitcoin News Site
Post by: maxreish on August 10, 2020, 04:45:12 AM
I have visited the website. So far, it was a neat and simple, providing news about bitcoin, altcoins and other stuffs like political and technical. Unlike the other websites who has so many ads popping, this btc news website doesn't have that irritating ads.  However, hope your website stick to your purposes;

At the BTC Times, we deliver content with a mission:

Quality reporting of the news you care about
Covering stories that others don't
Addressing FUD and bad takes in the media

Somehow, covering stories that other websites don't? From whose stories will you covering?

Anyhow, I usually read btc news and predictions in my apps installed in my phone which give me notifications as I need that to be updated.


Title: Re: The BTC Times: A new Bitcoin News Site
Post by: amishmanish on August 10, 2020, 05:01:24 AM
I don't know who Samson Mow is--that's the first time I've heard his name. 
just another centralized mind who's involved in a lot of centralized companies such as blockstream, BTCC,... and is here to make money...
As long as they continue to invest effort and money into using bitcoin for offering services and products, why should it matter if they are in this for profit?? I think its a good thing to have a bunch of such bitcoin focussed companies. Like Blockstream is headed by Adam Back, who is pretty much a bitcoin maximalist.

These people have done useful things in the time that bitcoin went through surge in media exposure. They also played an important role in putting hold on Roger Ver's agenda to mislead newbies.


Title: Re: The BTC Times: A new Bitcoin News Site
Post by: TalkStar on August 10, 2020, 05:21:46 AM
Well, it's a new website, just to be fair.
I am not seeing anything wrong with that until they start to spread fake price prediction or baseless news just by taking some payment. Due to excessive amount of ads and paid advertising people are losing their interest on this type of crypto related news site. Basically this kinda crypto news sites launch with the promise of fair service and authentic news but everything begin to change when they start to list or share anything just for some money.  

By the way, thanks for introducing us with the new site. Lets wait to see their progress and future activities.      


Title: Re: The BTC Times: A new Bitcoin News Site
Post by: MCobian on August 10, 2020, 05:24:12 AM
I've looked at The BTC Times website and my first impressions are pretty good. But the content is not complete, there are
several features that are still coming soon. Maybe because it's new, looking at the list of board members involved is quite
promising. There are the names Charlie Lee and Riccardo Spagni involved in this project it should make The BTC Times website
provide credible news. As we know these two people are enough influential in the crypto world.


Title: Re: The BTC Times: A new Bitcoin News Site
Post by: witcher_sense on August 10, 2020, 05:29:43 AM
I am sceptical about this whole idea because news is still news no matter what you are calling it, noise-free news, sense-free news, etc. Even based on strong facts, news won't tell you nothing about the real reasons that caused certain processes, actually no one can do that. What they do is forming particular view on "strong facts", and because of that we gradually lose our ability to think adequately. Facts are facts, but interpretation of the facts is always subjective and based on the experience and knowledge of the interpreter. You shouldn't base your opinion only on someone's interpretation, you should have your own opinion. Naturally, in order to form your opinion you also should have some experience and knowledge. And the best way to gain these is reading books not news.

If you still want read news about bitcoin without noise, I suggest this twitter https://twitter.com/nobsbitcoin


Title: Re: The BTC Times: A new Bitcoin News Site
Post by: crwth on August 10, 2020, 05:39:01 AM
It looks great, to be honest. I do look forward to another reputable news site with regards to cryptocurrency-related stuff and headlines. I always see and read CoinTelegraph and CoinDesk. Those are the ones that I'm familiar with. Now that there would be this site, it seems a contender in terms of design. I hope the content would be great, as well.


Title: Re: The BTC Times: A new Bitcoin News Site
Post by: mk4 on August 10, 2020, 06:56:39 AM
I am not seeing anything wrong with that until they start to spread fake price prediction or baseless news just by taking some payment. Due to excessive amount of ads and paid advertising people are losing their interest on this type of crypto related news site. Basically this kinda crypto news sites launch with the promise of fair service and authentic news but everything begin to change when they start to list or share anything just for some money.     

Possible, but it's a lot less likely(though still possible) in their case in my opinion because the people who are going to run this site has big names and has quite high reputations in this space, and I'm pretty certain that they don't want to lose it.


Title: Re: The BTC Times: A new Bitcoin News Site
Post by: Botnake on August 10, 2020, 07:08:12 AM
I'm usually reading news about crypto in https://cointelegraph.com/.. I like the design of the aforementioned site, looks simple.
Anyway, I'll check this one out, looks neat, but since this is a new site, I expect more improvement of the site in the long run.

What we actually need is a site that tells clear information, we know they could be bias, but not to be obviously bias.


Title: Re: The BTC Times: A new Bitcoin News Site
Post by: Lorence.xD on August 10, 2020, 07:43:38 AM
I'm usually reading news about crypto in https://cointelegraph.com/.. I like the design of the aforementioned site, looks simple.
Anyway, I'll check this one out, looks neat, but since this is a new site, I expect more improvement of the site in the long run.

What we actually need is a site that tells clear information, we know they could be bias, but not to be obviously bias.

This is most viewed news site by my friends and I just keep an eye for their posts because most of them know what is relevant in the cryptospace. Good thing about this site though is that it will be a good oppurtunity for other journalist to apply for this site to write some articles which can help them financially. What I fear about it though is that these sites for crypto news becomes a mainstream journalism where they rack up fake shit just for the numbers, we all know how journalism right now has gone, they do not care about the truth, the numbers is enough.


Title: Re: The BTC Times: A new Bitcoin News Site
Post by: NavI_027 on August 10, 2020, 11:47:45 AM
Btc Times, sounds like New York Times. Good choice of name in all fairness because I'm sure that it can somehow get the charisma of such big news company :D 

Like what other's said, I also like the design. Black and white colors are very classic and calm for our eyes, it never gets old. Plus, what i like in this new site is that it is also mobile friendly. Everything looks well organized and I don't actually having problems with zooming in zooming out the articles. Though Coindesk and other sites are better at the moment, I still look forward on this one. The more sources available, the better (given they are all stating nothing but facts of course).


Title: Re: The BTC Times: A new Bitcoin News Site
Post by: Vatimins on August 10, 2020, 12:32:00 PM
     This actually is a good news site. I really do like its content. The simplistic design is cool too. Honestly, I prefer black backgrounds in websites or anything actually 10x more than white or other colored backgrounds since black feels more relaxing for my eyes. And as of now I am using my phone to browse and I can say that the news site also works good on mobile devices as well. Great job for that. That being said though, there are still quite a few sites better than this one at the moment. But I will surely do add this on my favorite news sites. I'm the type of person that prefer more sources than just a single one.


Title: Re: The BTC Times: A new Bitcoin News Site
Post by: yazher on August 10, 2020, 12:53:57 PM
This might be added to the top Bitcoin News site out there depends on how they deliver the news to the people as some others are just taking advantage of some events to falsely promotes their project. Is this only limited to Bitcoin News? or they will also publish any news about the other cryptocurrencies? If so, they need to give every coin fair news even though they want to overthrow BTC which will not happen at all.


Title: Re: The BTC Times: A new Bitcoin News Site
Post by: Yamifoud on August 10, 2020, 02:41:01 PM
May we judge this site as another market drama or another artwork that will only spread bad news to the people because it is new. Yeah, the artwork is really good to see and could actually give attractions to the reader, pretty impressive but it will not get into the point that we can easily trust this site at all. They should not just have to look good only at the outside because people are very considerate to know what is in the inside and how they deliver news to the community. If they are true with their commitment to being a good source of Bitcoin news, maybe people would think about this as a reliable one.


Title: Re: The BTC Times: A new Bitcoin News Site
Post by: DoubleEdgeEX on August 10, 2020, 04:56:18 PM
I bookmarked the page, let see how it develops. I still prefer cointelegraph, cryptoslate and AMBcrypto even though they cover similar topics and stories


Title: Re: The BTC Times: A new Bitcoin News Site
Post by: Sanugarid on August 10, 2020, 05:49:20 PM
I sometimes worry that all media is effectively predestined to reach a stage where the money becomes more important than the journalistic integrity. 
Got this feeling too, coz there will be sponsors that will pay them for an advertise for example although they got the right to do or not to do it, still they need money for maintaining the website.
I also noticed how some crypto news site are manipulating the articles, when you tend to compare some of them, it will be likely a two opposite side in the paper, it seems to me that news with crypto is heavily manipulated too, not including the facts. Still the integrity of the news website should be at the priority of the viewers and readers, not just because it is popular.

Almost all of the other cryptomedia sites are absolute trash because of this.  I hope this one doesn't follow suit, but my experience seems to suggest otherwise.  Fingers crossed, I guess.  I'll give 'em the benefit of the doubt for now.
Yeah, they are being puppeted with the people in power of money. This might be good in the beginning but will turn the same as others in the long run, but I hope it won't.


Title: Re: The BTC Times: A new Bitcoin News Site
Post by: DooMAD on August 11, 2020, 09:22:45 AM
Almost all of the other cryptomedia sites are absolute trash because of this.  I hope this one doesn't follow suit, but my experience seems to suggest otherwise.  Fingers crossed, I guess.  I'll give 'em the benefit of the doubt for now.
Yeah, they are being puppeted with the people in power of money. This might be good in the beginning but will turn the same as others in the long run, but I hope it won't.

I think there might be two issues at play.  One is the people who already have lots of money and are seemingly more likely to attempt to use the media to manipulate public opinion in their favour.  The other is the "underdog" outfits who tend to end up sacrificing quality for profit because there likely isn't any other way for them to survive financially.  Neither creates good journalism and I don't know how it can be remedied.


Title: Re: The BTC Times: A new Bitcoin News Site
Post by: Leviathan.007 on August 11, 2020, 11:55:00 AM
Thank you for sharing this website, @mk4
I usually use the cointelegraph in order to check all the crypto related news. But, the special thing about the website you introduced to us is the website only and specifically publishing bitcoin news not the crypto news. This will help us to easily follow the news about bitcoin and clear the shitcoin news. However, there are many other similar websites where you can follow these news.


Title: Re: The BTC Times: A new Bitcoin News Site
Post by: jademaxsuy on August 11, 2020, 12:06:03 PM
Thank you for sharing this website, @mk4
I usually use the cointelegraph in order to check all the crypto related news. But, the special thing about the website you introduced to us is the website only and specifically publishing bitcoin news not the crypto news. This will help us to easily follow the news about bitcoin and clear the shitcoin news. However, there are many other similar websites where you can follow these news.
Yeah really great news from it. Good things we have users here extending their part and helping us out to get more news about bitcoin. Aside from that the reply also from other users like this made it more wonderful to have another way to read news about bitcoin. However, I am a little bit worried if really all the news where there are fact or just a fake news. As we all know that fake news nowadays is also rampant and we could not believe it at first because we need to do another research to verify all things are correct and true.