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Economy => Services => Topic started by: FairProof on March 22, 2014, 10:56:08 PM



Title: Business for sale!
Post by: FairProof on March 22, 2014, 10:56:08 PM
Hi all!
I i am glad to offer you a good deal!  

I decided to put my Online Bitcoin Lottery (http://fairproof.com) for auction.

Source data:
        Start Price - BTC1200
        Monthly Turnover Rates - BTC800
        Monthly Profit - BTC30




Title: Re: Business for sale!
Post by: gogodr on March 22, 2014, 11:15:45 PM
you are asking for 720 000$ for a business that only makes 18 000$ a month.
That's a return investment of 3.33 years. Are you out of your mind?


Title: Re: Business for sale!
Post by: acarterczyz on March 22, 2014, 11:25:57 PM
Hi all!
I i am glad to offer you a good deal!  

I decided to put my Online Bitcoin Lottery (http://fairproof.com) for auction.

Source data:
        Start Price - BTC1200
        Monthly Turnover Rates - BTC800
        Monthly Profit - BTC30




Anyone could get their hands on a lottery script and make a clone of your site. It would cost MUCH less to get the traffic/revenue you say you have.


Title: Re: Business for sale!
Post by: mrdeposit on March 23, 2014, 05:26:16 PM
I'd say its worth 1 to 2 years monthly profit. BTC360 - BTC720


Title: Re: Business for sale!
Post by: film2240 on March 23, 2014, 08:48:01 PM
Maybe the OP should lower the price to get things started as it sounds good but the returns seem small compared to the asking price :/


Title: Re: Business for sale!
Post by: general lee on March 24, 2014, 07:41:07 AM
I ve got some exp in bitcoin commerce...it is too much. My offer in PM.


Title: Re: Business for sale!
Post by: Kyraishi on March 24, 2014, 08:18:03 AM
Selling at this price a brand new site.
with claim without any proof.
"put what you wants here"

or maybe this thread is another marketing trial..


Title: Re: Business for sale!
Post by: 888 on March 24, 2014, 09:14:17 AM
Selling at this price a brand new site.
with claim without any proof.
"put what you wants here"

or maybe this thread is another marketing trial..

It's not a brand new site, I think it's been around for half a year.


Title: Re: Business for sale!
Post by: FairProof on March 24, 2014, 10:54:21 AM
Thanks all for replies, but please do not forget that this is the Auction.
If you are interested in buying my site please make your bet.
It`s also dedicated to all who wrote me PM.

All statistic ll be open for auction winner during due diligence procedure.

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you are asking for 720 000$ for a business that only makes 18 000$ a month.
That's a return investment of 3.33 years. Are you out of your mind?
Man, have you ever made a business? 3 years is pretty good to get "your satisfaction".

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Anyone could get their hands on a lottery script and make a clone of your site. It would cost MUCH less to get the traffic/revenue you say you have.
You can try to gain similar profit with your project. I promise you that it will be a little harder than just a "lottery script". The cost is based on users activity not on script.




Title: Re: Business for sale!
Post by: thecoinjournal on March 24, 2014, 04:19:43 PM
Thanks all for replies, but please do not forget that this is the Auction.
If you are interested in buying my site please make your bet.
It`s also dedicated to all who wrote me PM.

All statistic ll be open for auction winner during due diligence procedure.

Quote
you are asking for 720 000$ for a business that only makes 18 000$ a month.
That's a return investment of 3.33 years. Are you out of your mind?
Man, have you ever made a business? 3 years is pretty good to get "your satisfaction".

Quote
Anyone could get their hands on a lottery script and make a clone of your site. It would cost MUCH less to get the traffic/revenue you say you have.
You can try to gain similar profit with your project. I promise you that it will be a little harder than just a "lottery script". The cost is based on users activity not on script.




True. Marketing is the hard part.


Title: Re: Business for sale!
Post by: gogodr on March 24, 2014, 04:50:59 PM
Quote
Quote
you are asking for 720 000$ for a business that only makes 18 000$ a month.
That's a return investment of 3.33 years. Are you out of your mind?
Man, have you ever made a business? 3 years is pretty good to get "your satisfaction".
3 Years is a deal breaker. Its not 3 years until you get you are satisfied with your investment, it is 3 years until you see a penny out of it.
And with bitcoin volatility this is quite the gamble, This website you offer doesnt even have 3 years of history, its not stable. It is just recent that bitcoin went up in price, we really don't know what will happen with bitcoin 3 years from now.
Also, is your profit before or after taxes? and what about costs? what are your monthly costs?
if you really want to sell it, you need to be transparent with all the information before any potential customer can look at this seriously.
I'm just letting you know my perspective.
- Your evaluation is ridiculous
- You need proof of your statements, some traffic statistics would be good to have too.
- Whats the income and outcome of that website? (Cost and Profit)


Title: Re: Business for sale!
Post by: boumalo on March 24, 2014, 06:14:48 PM
It is a nice and successful casino you are selling, having more infos would be nice, maybe you only want to give them to serious potential buyers?

Can you tell us why you are selling?


Title: Re: Business for sale!
Post by: E.exchanger on March 24, 2014, 07:10:39 PM
Please say you are kidding and not seriously Bull shitting us, oh wait are you really serious ??? so basically you are asking for 1200BTC :o for your website which seems pretty fine as its your website you can sell it to any amount you want but the fact is buddy you aren't getting any deals here trust me on this !!



Care to show us the proofs and if its going so smooth why are you selling it ???
 Monthly Turnover Rates - BTC800
 Monthly Profit - BTC30


Title: Re: Business for sale!
Post by: Wendigo on March 24, 2014, 07:19:52 PM
what 1200 btc? holy balls


Title: Re: Business for sale!
Post by: boumalo on March 24, 2014, 07:31:51 PM
Please say you are kidding and not seriously Bull shitting us, oh wait are you really serious ??? so basically you are asking for 1200BTC :o for your website which seems pretty fine as its your website you can sell it to any amount you want but the fact is buddy you aren't getting any deals here trust me on this !!



Care to show us the proofs and if its going so smooth why are you selling it ???
 Monthly Turnover Rates - BTC800
 Monthly Profit - BTC30

If you look at the history of deposits I can believe there is a revenue of 30BTC/month atm


Title: Re: Business for sale!
Post by: rinoexchange on March 24, 2014, 09:09:09 PM
HI
I would be willing to invest around 10 BTC in such business in its early stage. pm if you interested.


Title: Re: Business for sale!
Post by: FairProof on March 27, 2014, 03:00:15 PM
Thank you for feedback!

I have own reason to sell :-\ and i will not share it, sorry.

BTW, i have already recieve 2 PM offers.

I decided to set betting close date on 4th April 2014.




Title: Re: Business for sale!
Post by: boumalo on March 27, 2014, 03:17:57 PM
Thank you for feedback!

I have own reason to sell :-\ and i will not share it, sorry.

BTW, i have already recieve 2 PM offers.

I decided to set betting close date on 4th April 2014.




Good luck on your sell

Please disclose the selling amount here


Title: Re: Business for sale!
Post by: omahapoker on March 27, 2014, 03:56:46 PM
is it true you have
8.9 million bets? if so i will add you to my list when i update.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=529963.0


Title: Re: Business for sale!
Post by: FairProof on March 31, 2014, 03:49:14 PM
I have just recieved the offer - BTC1400.

I am gonna close the auction on 5th of April if it will not any other bets.


Title: Re: Business for sale!
Post by: 5thStreetResearch on March 31, 2014, 04:06:34 PM
I have just recieved the offer - BTC1400.

I am gonna close the auction on 5th of April if it will not any other bets.

balllllin


Title: Re: Business for sale!
Post by: boumalo on March 31, 2014, 05:48:37 PM
I have just recieved the offer - BTC1400.

I am gonna close the auction on 5th of April if it will not any other bets.

balllllin

1400B! It may be a casino buying or someone who wants a nice bitcoin revenue


Title: Re: Business for sale!
Post by: FairProof on April 02, 2014, 04:39:06 AM
Attention everyone!

The post is a scam and all replies in it under FairProof are fake. Whoever posted all of the above had used my password and seems to know a bit too much about my business affairs.

Busy with my advertizing project, I paid no attention to what’s been happening in this post. A total surprise, imagine someone trying to sell your business without your consent, the scammer even replied to a few PMs.

I am always careful with my passwords and it beats me how it all worked out. I really hate to think the forum admins are involved. It is also possible that someone’s been reading my emails and IMs.

The weird part is that I do intend to sell my business, had been negotiating for a while and reached an agreement a few days ago. To tell you more, I even got paid part of the price in advance. Now I am going to have to explain all this nonsense to my partner.

I have changed all my passwords and am taking all possible steps to repair the damage. No idea what’s been going on here, it really made me feel paranoid.

All I can think of is a competitor trying to discredit the FairProof lottery. Since the site is really well protected, (we did use some serious security algorithms there) they decided to take an easy route and post this fake bullshit here.


Title: Re: Business for sale!
Post by: Sindelar1938 on April 02, 2014, 05:28:43 AM
Too pricey for me
Good luck though!


Title: Re: Business for sale!
Post by: b!z on April 02, 2014, 09:29:06 AM
Attention everyone!

The post is a scam and all replies in it under FairProof are fake. Whoever posted all of the above had used my password and seems to know a bit too much about my business affairs.

Busy with my advertizing project, I paid no attention to what’s been happening in this post. A total surprise, imagine someone trying to sell your business without your consent, the scammer even replied to a few PMs.

I am always careful with my passwords and it beats me how it all worked out. I really hate to think the forum admins are involved. It is also possible that someone’s been reading my emails and IMs.

The weird part is that I do intend to sell my business, had been negotiating for a while and reached an agreement a few days ago. To tell you more, I even got paid part of the price in advance. Now I am going to have to explain all this nonsense to my partner.

I have changed all my passwords and am taking all possible steps to repair the damage. No idea what’s been going on here, it really made me feel paranoid.

All I can think of is a competitor trying to discredit the FairProof lottery. Since the site is really well protected, (we did use some serious security algorithms there) they decided to take an easy route and post this fake bullshit here.

this is pretty funny.


Title: Re: Business for sale!
Post by: FairProof on April 02, 2014, 12:23:46 PM
Well, it does not feel funny at all to me - I am positive that I have made my forum password known to no one.

I guess I should write another post so that people are more careful about security issues.



Title: Re: Business for sale!
Post by: CrackedLogic on April 02, 2014, 01:11:25 PM
Attention everyone!

The post is a scam and all replies in it under FairProof are fake. Whoever posted all of the above had used my password and seems to know a bit too much about my business affairs.

Busy with my advertizing project, I paid no attention to what’s been happening in this post. A total surprise, imagine someone trying to sell your business without your consent, the scammer even replied to a few PMs.

I am always careful with my passwords and it beats me how it all worked out. I really hate to think the forum admins are involved. It is also possible that someone’s been reading my emails and IMs.

The weird part is that I do intend to sell my business, had been negotiating for a while and reached an agreement a few days ago. To tell you more, I even got paid part of the price in advance. Now I am going to have to explain all this nonsense to my partner.

I have changed all my passwords and am taking all possible steps to repair the damage. No idea what’s been going on here, it really made me feel paranoid.

All I can think of is a competitor trying to discredit the FairProof lottery. Since the site is really well protected, (we did use some serious security algorithms there) they decided to take an easy route and post this fake bullshit here.

this is pretty funny.

Dafuq? I don't believe this one bit.


Title: Re: Business for sale!
Post by: rohnearner on April 02, 2014, 01:24:08 PM
Well, it does not feel funny at all to me - I am positive that I have made my forum password known to no one.

I guess I should write another post so that people are more careful about security issues.
Yeah sure do that.. and look into your PC for keylogger or similar malware pls, it is highly possible that you computer running a program in background .!
 


Title: Re: Business for sale!
Post by: CrackedLogic on April 02, 2014, 01:46:04 PM
Well, it does not feel funny at all to me - I am positive that I have made my forum password known to no one.

I guess I should write another post so that people are more careful about security issues.
Yeah sure do that.. and look into your PC for keylogger or similar malware pls, it is highly possible that you computer running a program in background .!
 

Or maybe all the hate overwhelmed him and caused him to create some BS story about how he didn't post this.


Title: Re: Business for sale!
Post by: rohnearner on April 02, 2014, 02:05:16 PM
Well, it does not feel funny at all to me - I am positive that I have made my forum password known to no one.

I guess I should write another post so that people are more careful about security issues.
Yeah sure do that.. and look into your PC for keylogger or similar malware pls, it is highly possible that you computer running a program in background .!
 

Or maybe all the hate overwhelmed him and caused him to create some BS story about how he didn't post this.
hmm possible..! but if that is the case he should have deleted the posts..! or came up with  a much better story..! I'll give him a benefit of doubt..! I'll say that because I know how it feels when it happens to you :P


Title: Re: Business for sale!
Post by: boumalo on April 02, 2014, 02:08:39 PM
This is an unlikely turn of event for this sell

We are in the wild west (if the hacking happened)


Title: Re: Business for sale!
Post by: FairProof on April 03, 2014, 07:33:25 AM
Thank you for all support and advice you have given.

Those who think it’s a “BS story” – oh well, may nothing of the kind ever happen to you, it has been a most unpleasant experience.


Title: Re: Business for sale!
Post by: CrackedLogic on April 03, 2014, 07:43:38 AM
A total surprise, imagine someone trying to sell your business without your consent, the scammer even replied to a few PMs.



If the "Scammer" had been sending and receiving PMs, then you should of received email notifications from the forum telling you have received a PM, surely you could of not missed that.



The weird part is that I do intend to sell my business, had been negotiating for a while and reached an agreement a few days ago. To tell you more, I even got paid part of the price in advance.


If so, can we see any proof of payment.

If we see any evidence we can see if this was a legit story or not.


Title: Re: Business for sale!
Post by: howzar on April 03, 2014, 08:14:07 AM
A total surprise, imagine someone trying to sell your business without your consent, the scammer even replied to a few PMs.



If the "Scammer" had been sending and receiving PMs, then you should of received email notifications from the forum telling you have received a PM, surely you could of not missed that.

I switched those off..


Title: Re: Business for sale!
Post by: wang_yan on April 03, 2014, 08:15:43 AM
A total surprise, imagine someone trying to sell your business without your consent, the scammer even replied to a few PMs.



If the "Scammer" had been sending and receiving PMs, then you should of received email notifications from the forum telling you have received a PM, surely you could of not missed that.

I switched those off..

I used a 10 minutes mail address.


Title: Re: Business for sale!
Post by: CrackedLogic on April 03, 2014, 08:25:33 AM
A total surprise, imagine someone trying to sell your business without your consent, the scammer even replied to a few PMs.



If the "Scammer" had been sending and receiving PMs, then you should of received email notifications from the forum telling you have received a PM, surely you could of not missed that.

I switched those off..

Well then, I'm sure he can still show us some sort of proof of payment.


Title: Re: Business for sale!
Post by: FairProof on April 03, 2014, 08:29:10 AM
The negotiation and the payment were performed outside btctalk.org

I would rather keep this confidential, some people already know too much.


Title: Re: Business for sale!
Post by: CrackedLogic on April 03, 2014, 08:31:19 AM
The negotiation and the payment were performed outside btctalk.org

I would rather keep this confidential, some people already know too much.

you could just pm me and I would confirm it on the post if it was legit or not.


Title: Re: Business for sale!
Post by: FairProof on April 03, 2014, 10:48:55 AM
What is your point anyway?

I can provide a half dozen payments from two weeks past, no problem.

How will it prove me right or wrong, I don't understand.


Title: Re: Business for sale!
Post by: Light on April 03, 2014, 10:59:26 AM
@OP: As far as future business practice goes, my advice when making any official and important statement regarding your business would be to have a GPG key that you can sign off messages from (that you have previously affirmed is tied to you exclusively) and keep that safe (preferably offline). Or you could sign a message from an address you own now, and in the future use that same address to confirm your identity. Those are the best ways to ensure you avoid identity theft especially when you have a compromised account.


Title: Re: Business for sale!
Post by: FairProof on April 03, 2014, 01:30:24 PM
Hmm, I spoke to a couple of people I trust to be good security experts.

I asked them what I should do so nothing like that happens again.

One of them gave the same advice as you, so it sounds like the very thing I am going to do.

Thanks a lot!


Title: Re: Business for sale!
Post by: FairProof on April 18, 2014, 07:37:42 PM
Hi!

Thanks for all who have help me against scammers who hacked my account. However, this stupid situation resulted in a great outcome since we got quite perspective offer from investment fund. I think it will be confirmed on my partner`s site soon.

I am happy this defamatory story has the good ending for me and Fairproof.com users.


Title: Re: Business for sale!
Post by: FairProof on April 22, 2014, 09:21:02 AM
The deal was confirmed by my partner.

You can trust http://bitnovus.com/ if you want to improve your business.


Title: Re: Business for sale!
Post by: dougg on April 22, 2014, 03:46:17 PM
Were these rates for the last months? when did you start?


Title: Re: Business for sale!
Post by: hamza171 on April 24, 2014, 03:38:37 PM
Attention everyone!

The post is a scam and all replies in it under FairProof are fake. Whoever posted all of the above had used my password and seems to know a bit too much about my business affairs.

Busy with my advertizing project, I paid no attention to what’s been happening in this post. A total surprise, imagine someone trying to sell your business without your consent, the scammer even replied to a few PMs.

I am always careful with my passwords and it beats me how it all worked out. I really hate to think the forum admins are involved. It is also possible that someone’s been reading my emails and IMs.

The weird part is that I do intend to sell my business, had been negotiating for a while and reached an agreement a few days ago. To tell you more, I even got paid part of the price in advance. Now I am going to have to explain all this nonsense to my partner.

I have changed all my passwords and am taking all possible steps to repair the damage. No idea what’s been going on here, it really made me feel paranoid.

All I can think of is a competitor trying to discredit the FairProof lottery. Since the site is really well protected, (we did use some serious security algorithms there) they decided to take an easy route and post this fake bullshit here.

Lol It was just a marketing Plane