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Bitcoin => Electrum => Topic started by: Anonymous P on August 17, 2020, 09:08:27 PM



Title: Can I Cancel a transaction if the confirmations are still climbing?
Post by: Anonymous P on August 17, 2020, 09:08:27 PM
I’m pretty sure in my haste, I sent money to a bad wallet.  I typically send coins via Electrum > Helix Lite > Account (which is the case here too) but I’m pretty sure I got phished as I didn’t check to see if the site was secure out of complacency.  Most likely it’s gone which I have no reason to cry about; however, I’ve noticed the confirmations are still climbing (up to 13 confirmations now) and was wondering if it’s possible to just stop the transaction, or once there is one confirmation it’s gone?  Any feedback/abuse welcome :P

TX ID:  7e81d924c8577d20ad6111bbc2c1f667016e476c6764594ebfc0de245493113d


Title: Re: Can I Cancel a transaction if the confirmations are still climbing?
Post by: TryNinja on August 17, 2020, 09:16:33 PM
13 confirmations... there is no way you can undo this transaction. Even with 1 confirmation is pretty pretty hard, and definitely not even close to worth trying for 0.033 BTC. Your only possible shot would be trying to double spend it while still unconfirmed.

But anyways, isn't Helix that mixer that got shutdown[1] by the police? Are you sure this mixer is even legit? Keep in mind that many scam mixers could keep working for small amounts and just scam you when you send a big amount.

[1] https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2020/02/17/police-bust-alleged-operator-of-bitcoin-mixing-service-helix/


Title: Re: Can I Cancel a transaction if the confirmations are still climbing?
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on August 17, 2020, 09:25:41 PM
But anyways, isn't Helix that mixer that got shutdown[1] by the police?
Correct. Helix was shutdown back in December 2017. Any site still operating with the Helix name on it is a scam.


Title: Re: Can I Cancel a transaction if the confirmations are still climbing?
Post by: Anonymous P on August 17, 2020, 09:30:33 PM
No, I was not aware Helix was down.  I have always clicked the link for it at the top of the Grams Search Engine.  Unless I somehow grabbed a bad URL for Grams...


Title: Re: Can I Cancel a transaction if the confirmations are still climbing?
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on August 17, 2020, 09:42:48 PM
Grams also shutdown back in December 2017. The search engine and mixer you are using are both scam imitation sites.

The actual URL of Grams was http://grams7enufi7jmdl.onion/. This is now dead.

Here's a signed PGP message posted on the now banned subreddit from the Grams admin talking about its shutdown back in December 2017: https://archive.is/MTY9z


Title: Re: Can I Cancel a transaction if the confirmations are still climbing?
Post by: BitMaxz on August 17, 2020, 10:25:30 PM
No, I was not aware Helix was down.  I have always clicked the link for it at the top of the Grams Search Engine.  Unless I somehow grabbed a bad URL for Grams...
Can you share the helix URL here that you recently use? It can help everyone to spot those fake mixer and to avoid scam.

Recently there are many clone mixers pop up on the search engine sample this image below.

https://i.imgur.com/ZNcodWE.png

https://i.imgur.com/OFkni1n.png

Don't click any sites from ads they are most likely scam/fake sites.
Be careful next time because there are many scammers out there due to price increase.


Title: Re: Can I Cancel a transaction if the confirmations are still climbing?
Post by: ranochigo on August 18, 2020, 05:57:08 AM
No, I was not aware Helix was down.  I have always clicked the link for it at the top of the Grams Search Engine.  Unless I somehow grabbed a bad URL for Grams...
The way SEO works could allow the sites which are not legitimate to be ranked higher than the actual sites.  That,  or scammers pays for their sites to be promoted.  It's hard to trust search engine with all the results and its better to do some cross referencing before using the site.


Title: Re: Can I Cancel a transaction if the confirmations are still climbing?
Post by: Lucius on August 18, 2020, 09:59:18 AM
Grams also shutdown back in December 2017. The search engine and mixer you are using are both scam imitation sites.

It’s amazing that someone is falling victim to something that hasn’t existed since 2017, and that there are still people who don’t realize that one shouldn’t believe the ads that appear at the top of the search results. Somehow it seems to me that the OP was activated after 3 years of hibernation, because how else to explain what happened to him ???

As usual when the price of BTC rises, we have more and more people who will try to sell their BTC - which means that bad guys can expect a lot of catch in the coming period.