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Hello,
I'm new here and I want to congratulate all community for the great work you are doing here!


I need your help/feedback with something I can't understand, because if Crypto.games is probably fair, then something is wrong!

1 year ago I've started developing a script with the amazing Seuntjies DiceBot tool, it was a full year developing, testing, testing, testing... developing, testing... until the positive results.
- I've realised 1.000.000.000 bets with the backtest simulation!
- Every 10.000.000 bets from backtest has doubled my balance
- I've tested 100 simulations of 10.000.000 bets and all rounds with profit!

The strange thing:
- When I connect the DiceBot to Crypto.games the strategy not works in the same way as the simulation! And balance goes to zero with the first 5.000.000 bets.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Something is probably wrong with your simulations.
It's impossible to double your balance in every 10 million bets you make. You may be lucky and do that a few times. But that's not always possible.
No strategy can defeat the house. The house edge guarantees that in the long run, the house will defeat you.

do you really think there is such algorithm which you can program and 100% win?  No, in gambling it's all about luck

Don't compare the real thing to a simulation. Not everything that's good when the simulation showed will be applied to the actual casino. Not all of the strategies that we have are working.
It may work sometime but most of the time it won't. There's no issue with crypto.games as what your title indicates, it's the bot that simply don't work at it.

You are definitely right and theres no point on questioning Crypto.games legitimacy just because it did really break out someones Bot setting? Funny.
As you had said and mentioned where simulation is different from the actual thing and if you do really believe that 100% profitability does exist then you must be dreaming because
reality is totally opposite into this one.  :D

Did you test your dicebot to other platforms though? If not, then test it yourself again so see if you can come up with the same conclusion.

It's really hard to accused a gambling website just because your simulation works and it didn't work on crypto.games. Try to other sites and not just to one before making such assumptions. Remember it is a simulation, perhaps you did it in a controlled environment that's why you are getting positive results.

Thanks for your reply!

I'll test with primedice may be, what you think? Primedice and Crypto are the biggest ones, it's correct?

They're both one of the best when it comes to Dice but there are still other sites that you can test which would be Wolf.bet, Bustadice, Windice, Roobet, Stake and lots more.

But dont really expect that your simulation results would go along on what you are expecting because just like what others been saying here that

simulation results doesnt reflects on the actual or in reality but good luck into your test phase.

I don’t think DiceBot supports Bustadice or Roobet casinos. However, I could be wrong, I haven't checked the latest versions...

Cannot speculation the provably fair by the result of total bets, you should talk about the result bet did the result same as the hash or not. No matter how many bet you are made, all based the chance you are winning. So, 10.000.000 bets don't guarantee you always being profit, all will be always depends on how much chance you are set up. If talking about the provably fair, then should talking about the hash bets.

In your simulation, do you have endless resources? I mean did you simulate with finite money amount (for example 100 dollars) or just with no limit?

Because, with a high probability your strategy is a victim to "gambler's fallacy". I think your results is an average that you will double your ballance in 10mil bets, but there is chance that you will lose everything faster.

Also question: How many times you used your bot on Crypto.games? Just one time?

I'm testing with start balance 0,01 Bitcoin only, and my script has stop loss management. Now I will test if casino has intentional house hedge variation, because in my backtest the house hedge is fixed to 1%

It's worth noting that while dice games are provably-fair, the outcomes of each event won't turn out to be the same. Your simulation and tinkering might have resulted in you getting a desirable result, but put that into a different platform and see the variety in the result you just got. Also, provably-fair means that every event outcome is verifiable on your end using known methods such as checking hashes and changing client seeds etc. to make sure that the server is not 'playing with you' using their games. Try it out on different platforms and see that results will vary greatly no matter how 'perfect' your simulation runs.

10 million bets is alot , no wonder why you reached 1 year of testing .  you waste so much time just for testing things only but in the end only the real results dissapoint you  . you dont know what if the gambling site have updated resulting for your strat to not work or the bot do also does the same , it have undergo for an update  .  you can always try again or you can try on other site  too .  make sure you update the version of the bot  to its latest but next time make the bet lesser so that you wont waste so much time .