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Hello betting friends,

we are bet4freedom and have been profitably active in the betting business for a long time.

Now we have decided to build a community, together we are strong!

In 19 days, we were able to generate tickets worth € 90,000 + of which € 50,000 + net profit.

We have plenty of proofs of our bets on Instagram.
Check it out yourself. If you don't want to miss the train to a profitable future, you can get on now

Instagram: ( @bet4freedom)
https://www.instagram.com/bet4freedom

bet4freedom

Just checked your Instagram and checked your video proof and you were using 1xbit which have a pretty bad reputation here but I also see other sports betting sites on your proof I think. You can create a new thread for free prediction tips in order to attract more gamblers anyway welcome to the forum!

Using 1xbit as the platform you are using for the bets will put you a tough spot in this forum since they do have unresolve scam accusations against them. There is a better sports betting site that is far better than the betting site you are currently using. I really encourage you to switch, You potential customer here in this forum will surely don't want their money to go at an unreliable betting site.

Btw welcome to the forum and Goodluck finding your market.
I agree, Considering free prediction tips is one of the free and common ways to advertise and to prove your skill to your potential clients.

Thanks for hearing our feedback. You can also edit and improve your original post I think this is your official Announcement thread you can upgrade your account to copper member in order to post images here and you can edit and redesign your original post it also good for advertising your service. Best of luck bet4freedom!

Is that the gambling site that should have supposedly sig campaign that got halted because they have unresolved scam accusations? They closed the campaign but I wonder if they started resolving their issues. I doubt they will get players from the forum without addressing their past issues.

19,99 € to get access to your Telegram group? One time payment?

But still this is very expensive though, we have seen some tipster here who offered their services for free initially and then if you are satisfied then you can subscribe to them.

Using shoppy.gg as platform and then Instagram? Nah, sorry I'll skip. And involving yourself to 1xbit is also not that good to be honest. Anyhow, goodluck!!!

If that is the case then it is very expensive for me to pay one time just to join their telegram group. It is good that they listen to people's feedback and it is indeed not good for you guys to use such platforms that have issues, problems or accusations regarding to their site.

When I'm checking on their Instagram account and see at their Instastory yes that for one time payment, to be honest.  have never joined the channel which gives predictions tips, but when need to pay fee to get acces to telegram group for free predictions then isn't fully free.

Yes you are right

1xbit must have been open sourced their code for people to use or sell it to them.

This is the third time 1xbit codes used by another name. Careful depositing your funds there.

Well, good for you and you're in luck if you haven't had problems with 1xbit. Don't you want to start a prediction thread on the forum? you'll garner a lot of visitors if you do it here so that prediction followers will see the actual bets you have and how good they are. I'm only here to suggest.  :)

Why would anyone pay 19,99 € to join the telegram group when we have no proof if the tips provided in it are correct or not. Its better if you can provide your services free here so everyone is confident that you are skilled and it would be worth to invest money to join his telegram group.

When you can generate €50000+ profit, why can't you have your own gambling platform. In particular, you can create your own gambling website and generate revenue out of it rather than just making the bets on other platforms and accepting bets through instagram.

You should quote a list of your previous betting to understand where your bets and what is the odds.
I can't see your previous bet history in instagram (I haven't any account) . But I am a bit skeptical about this numbers... since you're claiming a such high volume/revenues ... why you should waste your time selling your good tips for a pizza/beer? Sounds time wasting for. me...

Using 1xbit as bookmaker is not a good sign since they have a very bad reputation.
Selling stuff with shoppy.gg is another not good sign since there you have 0 feedback and anyone can make any type of claims (NO ESCROW AT ALL/NO HISTORY / NEWBIE ACCOUNT)

That is what I think because, with €50000+ profit, I am sure that he can create a gambling site.
But I think if he wants to invite people to this forum, he needs to show what he did before, so we can see that he can give what we search.i
I hope you can be careful because you can not always have luck with gambling games, and I think that it will be challenging for you to have a better prediction.
Maybe you can lower the subscription fee because I think even if you promise a big profit in a short time, we might not think that it is good to be true. After all, we will follow what we see. And if that is right, I am sure that many people will join your telegram channel.
No offense @OP.

So people pays you and you place bets on their behalf? I don't know why someone would do something like this. You probably got really lucky to make such net profit. High risks still exists. There is still a chance of losing every bet/lottery.
And it kinda feels like it is a lure group. Why add a "fee" of 10 EUR? Aren't you already generating profit? Or this is your only way to earn "risk" free?

Actually it isnt really necessary for them to ask out specially if they havent prove out anything.Do you really believe that someone will really be willing to throw out 20 euro for sub fee?

We can see lots of free tipster of this forum and they are trying to prove out themselves first in the community that they are good to follow on and thats the time they do ask out for some fee where this one should really
be considered for new people who do tend to jump or seek out subscribers into this forum.

He didnt even bother to post up some proofs on what he's betting into.

I had previously joined one of the paid groups in the past, but I did not benefit from it, because most of the predictions were wrong. This made me lose all bets!! Now I no longer trust anyone who claims to be making correct predictions, but I can trust him if he gives me some correct hints for free then I can change my mind.

So you can offer some free prospects and then you can get clients.

If you are sure about your bets and services, why don't you prove your abilities by providing free bets along with sharing your bet slips here from platforms like nitrogensports or sportsbet? Instead of speaking, your work will do the job for you and you will get many more followers than you have right now.

I visited your instagram but I see that you have a very less followers, I thought I will be expecting like tens of thousands of followers
as you will able to profit that amount €50k plus is a huge amount of money already.

May I know if you are also offering free tips to those who cannot afford a VIP pass? And with regards to your statement "1xbit we found that you are not entirely wrong",
are thinking already in switching to a more repuatable platform? because who knows that you will be facing some problem in the future if you keep using 1xbit.

Who knows if those bets are real or not. There is a way for your to remove all the doubts whether you actually made those bets or if the video is fake.
You can allow someone access over teamviewer. A trusted member of the forum who would be willing to verify if what you are saying is true. You initiate a teamviewer session, you login to your account, and the other person can check your betting history. That way we will know whether or not you made those bets.

Is that something that you would do?

Does 1xbit provide bet slips? If they do, can you share your live bet slip among us so to let us verify that you have betted on the match you (will) have given us, or not? If 1xbit does not give a betslip, it is my humble request to you to please try with a different casino where betslips are provided!

It would be excellent if you could make your prediction, then you show your account and your bet, all in one capture, and then you show us your results, that way it is the safest way to show that you are telling the truth.

You are just making the things complicated for yourself. You should start by showing us the proofs where you have successfully predicted the match.
Make a post about a match with your predictions, also archive it so you can't alter it later and then post the results at the end of the match. This way everyone can see if your predictions are worth or not.

The problem is that you did not explain the bet4freedom well, what kind of bet is this?
Does it base on soccer or casino?
The link were people will read and have the pre-knowledge of the bet.
This are thing people have to know,because your post is avenue for advertising the platform's.

I guess so. I think we don't want to spend 20 euro on the sub fee, but I don't know.
If someone wants to give their tips to this forum, I guess that he can provide free tipsters as beginners, so we can see if they are really good or not.
Later, if they can have many people who use his service and they can get a nice result from his tips, I think he can ask them to pay a subscription or discount to try his paid service, but he needs to give differently than the free tips.
I think people will consider trying his paid service after they see his tips.

You only need to visit their Instagram and see the story section. Yes, this is a kind of sports match prediction service on the 1xbit site. I don't know whether they charge a rate or take a% of the winnings, that should also be explained here so that you can make sure all members/customers feel fair.

Is Instagram the best place for such a service? Why not make your own website and make timestamped posts which cannot be deleted and cannot be edited (or for which edit/deletion history is necessarily public)? You can make some of these posts public (free tips), and others only accessible by those who paid for subscription and made public after the bet is settled. This way it would be easier for everyone to see your betting history and whether the service is worth it. Instagram and Telegram are not used by everyone, whereas a website is something anyone can have a look at. And given what's been pointed out about 1xbit, why not switch to a more reputable sportsbook such as Sportsbet.io? This would help with your credibility as well. Good luck!

going deeper in OP post there are some hints that suggest that something isn't working properly.
I mean if someone is able to earn 50k EUR net profits, it's like he played:
500k EUR *@1.10 odds
or
50K EUR * @2.00 odds 
you can imagine by your self how it's hard achieve this turnover. there are NO PROOFS!

So if some one is able to generate 50K eur in 19 days, grossly he has earned 2600 EUR DAILY!
To achieve the same amount he should sell 136 (!) subscriptions daily in ONE DAY just to earn the same amount of money.

If you are able to earn a good monthly salary, in ONE DAY:
you will waste your time by selling useless subscriptions at 19 bucks ;D ?

As already said there is not bet history, no proofs, nothing! just another newbie that want to demonstrate the ability making incredible claims.

As you are new, it is not possible for any of us to follow you and pay you immediately without watching your track record here. Be patient and share some betslips with some intervals and if your bets prove to be wins, why will people hesitate buying your premium membership that you are willing to sell? And good luck with your bets today.

There was supposed to be a 2 PM free tip today, what happened to it?
Why did you delete some of your posts, like the one where you said that you would post a tip today? I took a look at the modlog and the mods didn't delete any of your posts. That means you did it.

Have you considered showing some proof that you made those bets and a €50.000 profit?

It's pretty obvious if you think about it. Op is trying to fool people through screenshots etc in order to draw in investors and run like crazy after accumulating a decent chunk of cash. Deleting posts in this manner is usually a clear red flag.

His promise of a profitable future is another dead giveaway. I advise avoiding this scammer completely since he doesn't seem like a legit tipster at all.

We will make a seperate prediction thread for the begining of the big leagues.

How you want that i proof you this winnings? If somebody can make teamviwer via mobilephone you can see how we login transactions and all the proofs guys


why everything flag as scam? I try to delete this thread to begin with a free prediction thread because of this it seems weird.

How can you be a professional tipster and match analyst working only with a mobile phone? Where is your computer/laptop? You research the matches you bet on from a phone? How does that work?

Because in 99% of the cases, if it looks like a scam, smells like a scam, and feels like a scam, it usually is!

Another thing. Why is your Instagram profile now on private? It was publicly available yesterday. 

Well, because we are prone here to scam. As a part of an old member here, there are too many scams I encountered and most of them are newbie. So don't blame them, they are asking proof, and proof shows legitimacy of your service or business. If you are legitimate, you will not hesitate your self to show your proof. However, you can also purchase a ^{[Copper Membership]} for your ann thread, this can allow you to post images which look better in showing proof as an screenshot.

Proofs are on Instagram a lot.
But if the User Pmalek is ready soon to proof our proofs with teamviewer than you guys will see that we dont play games.


We will do teamviewer with you  than you can check byself if the proofs are real or not its possible with tablet i make research about.( i will write you a message when we do the setup if you are ready to make it for us)

the Instagramprofil is private for the moment because some people think its funny to buy followers on our Account they have the target to close our Account i think but soon it will be again public.

have patience and we will start with the Preditction Thread soon. stay tuned

You can do itself https://community.teamviewer.com/t5/Knowledge-Base/Connections-From-Mobile-to-Mobile-Devices/ta-p/280 and asking if he receives your request.

But be careful of everyone. Someone has lost Bitcoin because Teamviewer he had was hacked. https://community.teamviewer.com/t5/General-Questions/I-was-hacked-by-teamviewer/td-p/51408

And the point is, can people believe you?, 2 pages I have read, only find 1 word (scam)

At this point, I advise locking this thread since the majority including me believe that you are a scammer no matter what you do which is why I feel it's pointless trying different methods like using TeamViewer etc. Instead, if you really want to prove yourself, start a new thread offering free tips.

Keep offering these free tips over time and win gamblers over with your predictions after which you can start offering paid tips. This is the best path in my opinion.

@bet4freedom
If you are really able to made around 2600 euro DAILY just with betting: why are you interested to get 19 euro from one monthly subscription?
You need to convince around 2600 people to join and then renew monthly their subscription just to get the same amount. It's a non-sense.
If only one-third of people make a question each week, and assuming 5 minutes to read and reply a question, you need around 72 hours weekly for managing these activities!
2 full time jobs! It's pretty clear that you can earn MUCH MUCH MUCH MORE and easily just with your betting ability (if these are true abilities) .

It sound like people that are selling ebooks to "become rich". They are not rich, and maybe they will never get rich. Meanwhile they are just receiving some fresh money in exchange of their "suggestions"

There was no proof on your Instagram account whatsoever. Just a few custom images that were all liked by a the same Instagram user. A new account just like yours. Whatever you have added to your profile now we can't know because it's private. There was a video that shows someone allegedly logging into an account and showing a betting history. Whether that is you or not, remains to be seen.

I suggested that you could use Teamviewer as a method to prove that your bets are real, but I never said that I would do it. I don't have positive trust or an extensive trading record that would suggest that the community should listen to my advice or suggestions.

If you are serious about the Teamviewer thing, you can make a request on the Services forum.  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=52.0) Mention that you want a trusted member of the community to verify your betting history over Teamviewer or some other way of verification.

hello betting friends,

we follow your advice and make a new free prediction thread also in this thread we add a new videoproof of our Account. We dont want to scam anyone you can benefit from our knowledge in betting with a one time payment lifetime!

here is the thread follow it that you dont miss any game in the future:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5271113.new#new

stay tuned!