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Title: Is it possible that the 1% group want to kill us intentionally with covid ?
Post by: spy100 on August 24, 2020, 11:41:05 PM
I have a theory why covid plague started :

Now the world population is around 8 billion people ...

What if a group a people started this plague intentionally do to fact technology/ai etc will replace human labor  so they do not have to deal with humans going on strike ,pensions ,health,riots,food,water,salaries etc..

It's also easy to do land grabbing if the owner is dead.(" The death of many Aztecs at the hands of the plague led to a void in land ownership, with Spanish colonists of all backgrounds looking to exploit these now vacant lands" --https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocoliztli_epidemics)

Is it possible that the 1% group want to kill us intentionally (get rid of the people they don't need)?


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Interesting facts about plagues/epidemics

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_epidemics

...the catastrophe was so overwhelming that men, not knowing what would happen next to them, became indifferent to every rule of religion or law.”
— Thucydides, History of the Peloponnesian War

Thucydides states that people ceased fearing the law since they felt they were already living under a death sentence. Likewise, people started spending money indiscriminately. Many felt they would not live long enough to enjoy the fruits of wise investment.

 The plague is thought to have caused widespread manpower shortages for food production

Even then, he did not refrain from demanding the annual tax, not only the amount at which he assessed each individual, but also the amount for which his deceased neighbors were liable


As a result of the plague in the countryside, farmers could not take care of crops and the price of grain rose in Constantinople.

By 736, many land tenants in Kyushu were either dying or forsaking their crops, leading to poor agricultural yields and ultimately famine.

 The epidemic not only killed a large segment of the population, it triggered significant dislocation, migration, and imbalance of the labor throughout Japan. Highly affected were construction and farming, especially rice cultivation.

With such a large population decline from the pandemic, wages soared in response to a labour shortage.[104] On the other hand, in the quarter century after the Black Death in England, it is clear many labourers, artisans, and craftsmen, those living from money-wages alone, did suffer a reduction in real incomes owing to rampant inflation.[105] Landowners were also pushed to substitute monetary rents for labour services in an effort to keep tenants.

The effects of the outbreak extended beyond just a loss in terms of population. The lack of indigenous labor led to a sizeable food shortage, which affected both the natives and Spanish

A 2019 study found that the plague of 1629–1631 led to lower growth in several cities affected by the plague and "caused long‐lasting damage to the size of Italian urban populations and to urbanization rates. These findings support the hypothesis that seventeenth‐century plagues played a fundamental role in triggering the process of relative decline of the Italian economies."


. It struck the areas of Andalucía and Valencia particularly hard. In conjunction with the poor harvest of 1682-83 which created famine conditions, the effects killed tens of thousands of the weakened and exhausted population. When it ended in 1685, it is estimated to have taken over 250,000 lives.


Trade and business had dried up, and the streets were empty of people except for the dead-carts and the dying victims, as witnessed and recorded by Samuel Pepys in his diary: "Lord! How empty the streets are and how melancholy, so many poor sick people in the streets full of sores… in Westminster, there is never a physician and but one apothecary left, all being dead."[44] That people did not starve was down to the foresight of Sir John Lawrence and the Corporation of London who arranged for a commission of one farthing to be paid above the normal price for every quarter of corn landed in the Port of London.[45] Another food source was the villages around London which, denied of their usual sales in the capital, left vegetables in specified market areas, negotiated their sale by shouting, and collected their payment after the money had been left submerged in a bucket of vinegar to "disinfect" the coins


The plague in London largely affected the poor, as the rich were able to leave the city by either retiring to their country estates or residing with kin in other parts of the country.


On 26 February, Grand Master Nicolás Cotoner and the committee met and decided to increase the measures being taken. Movement of people was restricted from 24 March, and all suspected cases were isolated. Residents of areas of Valletta with high infection rates, including the Manderaggio, Arċipierku and French Street, were forbidden to leave their homes and they were provided with food. Barbers were told not to cut the hair of infected people or their relatives. When the disease spread to the countryside, the entire island was declared as infected, and international quarantine measures were adopted.[3]


While the plague faded out during the hard winter, food became scarce due to war contributions and conscription, and the cordon sanitaire and the respective restrictions were lifted by edict on 12 July 1709.
While it had so far avoided participation in the war, the conflict had affected it indirectly by a reduction of its trade volume, rising taxes[28] and food shortages.


The plague outbreak caused severe economic disruption as trade links and communication were cut off, both internally and with neighbouring countries.[1] Ties between Malta and Gozo were cut off for a long period of time,[45] although there were instances where limited trade between the islands were allowed.[7] Fearing the disease, a number of foreign business people had left the island by August 1813.[7] Government expenditure also increased during the outbreak.[1]
The plague contributed to an economic depression which lasted until well after the disease was eradicated from the islands. Some ports imposed quarantines on Maltese ships until 1826, negatively impacting trade in the process.

Many lawsuits began, related to wills suspected of being forged by criminals looking to make their fortune at the expense of the true heirs. Other cases involved the abandoned houses that thieves had broken into.

The Dow Jones Industrial Average lost 15% of its value in the second half of 1957.[17] In the United Kingdom, the government paid out £10,000,000 in sickness benefit, and some factories and mines had to close.[3] Many schools had to close in Ireland, including seventeen in Dublin.[19]


Tourism was negatively affected, flights to India were cancelled, and some planes from India were fumigated at airports.[11][15] Many flights from India to the nearby Gulf region were suspended. Some countries also put a hold on the imports from India. Paramilitary forces set up checkpoints to deal with people fleeing Surat. Panic buying and government-ordered closures spread to Mumbai and Delhi.[14]
Economic damage in Surat was estimated at ₹816 crore (₹8.160 billion).

Approximately 20% of the protein consumed in developing countries come from poultry.[14] In the wake of the H5N1 pandemic, millions of poultry were killed. In Vietnam alone, over 50 million domestic birds were killed due to HPAI infection and control attempts.[50] A 2005 report by the FAO totaled economic losses in South East Asia around US$10 billion.[50] This had the greatest impact on small scale commercial and backyard producers relative to total assets compared to industrial chains which primarily experience temporary decreases in exports and loss of consumer confidence. Some governments did provide compensation for culled poultry, it was often far below market value (close to 30% of market value in Vietnam), while others such as Cambodia provide no compensation to farmers at all.
As poultry serves as a source of food security and liquid assets, the most vulnerable populations were poor small scale farmers.[47] The loss of birds due to HPAI and culling in Vietnam led to an average loss of 2.3 months of production and US$69–108 for households where many have an income of $2 a day or less.[50] The loss of food security for vulnerable households can be seen in the stunting of children under 5 in Egypt.[14] Women are another population at risk as in most regions of the world, small flocks are tended to by women.[51] Widespread culling also resulted in the decreased enrollment of girls in school in Turkey.[14]

During the first week of November reports told of a worsening situation due to intense transmission in Freetown. According to the Disaster Emergency Committee, food shortages resulting from aggressive quarantines were making the situation worse,[123] and on 4 November media reported that thousands had violated quarantine in search of food in the town of Kenema.[124
Movement of people away from affected areas disturbed agricultural activities.[456][457] The FAO warned that the outbreak could endanger harvests and food security in Western Africa,[458] and that with all the quarantines and movement limitations placed on them, more than 1 million people could be food insecure by March 2015.[459] By 29 July, the World Bank had given 10,500 tons of maize and rice seed to the 3 hardest-hit countries to help them to rebuild their agricultural systems.

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History is the best teacher: what it tells us from does facts is that land and labor will be very important, and famine will come with this plague ...



Title: Re: Is it possible that the 1% group want to kill us intentionally with covid ?
Post by: jackg on August 24, 2020, 11:44:45 PM
But they do need them. The reason the 1% are the 1% (at least the most powerful of the 1%) is down to exploitation of many workers and the size of the population..

Billionaires and millionaires cna make their money either directly or indirectly from factories employing people in countries like China, India and Thailand where its less cost to live and more demand for jobs than availability so people are forced to work in poor conditions (afaik).


Title: Re: Is it possible that the 1% group want to kill us intentionally with covid ?
Post by: spy100 on August 24, 2020, 11:46:51 PM
But they do need them. The reason the 1% are the 1% (at least the most powerful of the 1%) is down to exploitation of many workers and the size of the population..

Billionaires and millionaires cna make their money either directly or indirectly from factories employing people in countries like China, India and Thailand where its less cost to live and more demand for jobs than availability so people are forced to work in poor conditions (afaik).

Yeah but technology/robots/ai will replace human labor ...so if you don't need people you got to "get rid of junk" ,as human without work are dangerous ...


Title: Re: Is it possible that the 1% group want to kill us intentionally with covid ?
Post by: odolvlobo on August 25, 2020, 01:27:28 AM
I have a theory why covid plague started :
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Is it possible that the 1% group want to kill us intentionally (get rid of the people they don't need)?

Considering that the 1% are just as vulnerable as everyone else, that wouldn't make sense.


Title: Re: Is it possible that the 1% group want to kill us intentionally with covid ?
Post by: Darker45 on August 25, 2020, 02:27:42 AM
This is possible, of course. There is around 0.000000000001% possibility that this is indeed the reason behind this pandemic.

If it is, then that 1% must have tiny brains and have already failed. Well, it is infectious but not as deadly as they must have wanted. It only kills old ailing people most of the time. And there is no point killing all these lonely senile grandmas and grandpas so that "technology/robots/ai will replace human labor."


Title: Re: Is it possible that the 1% group want to kill us intentionally with covid ?
Post by: bitmover on August 25, 2020, 03:14:22 AM

Is it possible that the 1% group want to kill us intentionally (get rid of the people they don't need)?


Nah.
Rich people is dying from this plague as well.

This disease targets is specifically dangerous for old people (which are the most part of that "1%".)

Diseases which are related to sanitation or things like that are much better to kill poor people.

We are all hearing a lot about COVID because that 1% is dying from it.


Title: Re: Is it possible that the 1% group want to kill us intentionally with covid ?
Post by: Lorence.xD on August 25, 2020, 03:22:55 AM
But they do need them. The reason the 1% are the 1% (at least the most powerful of the 1%) is down to exploitation of many workers and the size of the population..

Billionaires and millionaires cna make their money either directly or indirectly from factories employing people in countries like China, India and Thailand where its less cost to live and more demand for jobs than availability so people are forced to work in poor conditions (afaik).
This is what I thought too. Why would you kill your unique resource? The so called 1% will not be at the top without the help of the other 99%. This theory is just a complete BS because they have been killing people ever since. This conspiracy theory is just OP's justification on why there are people at the top.


Title: Re: Is it possible that the 1% group want to kill us intentionally with covid ?
Post by: jackg on August 25, 2020, 03:31:03 AM


Yeah but technology/robots/ai will replace human labor ...so if you don't need people you got to "get rid of junk" ,as human without work are dangerous ...

You can't leave AI alone though. Someone has to be watching the robots/machines to ensure they haven't brocken down or got stuck on a job.

If the 1% killed off everyone else, they themselves would be poor and innovation would reduce..



As pointed out the virus generally attacks older people and the 1%, if they wanted to maintain dominance, would likely kill the current zoomers instead since some seem to be forming large pressure groups against them - and rightly so in cases.


Title: Re: Is it possible that the 1% group want to kill us intentionally with covid ?
Post by: Lorenz_Dolorido on August 25, 2020, 04:16:48 AM
we will not die because they dont have the virus


Title: Re: Is it possible that the 1% group want to kill us intentionally with covid ?
Post by: DoubleEdgeEX on August 25, 2020, 05:16:20 AM
Chances are higher to die from the overrushed and forced vaccination. I´m very well connected all over the world and I don´t know someone that knows someone that had Covid! However, there are many countries that are already installed laws that they can send a group of people to your home, even allowed to break the door and vaccinate you against your will. Australia, Denmark and Finnland already have that, Germany and Austria are close to pass a similar law. I´m certainy a similar law is in progress in your country too.

As for the 1%, e. g. a person like Bill Gates is a business man. He invested 4B USD in the WHO and he wants to get his money back .If you think for a second that he is a philantrop you might want to reconsider. Money rules the world and human lifes aren´t traded on the stock markets.

Eventually you can dismiss all that as a conspiracy theory and believe in the mass media, which again have an agenda if misinformation and subliminal directing you into a fearfull and axious mood. Heavy emotions sell best and love and happyness isn´t available so trigger panic increases the chances for people to leave their common sense behind and follow the masses.

We are heading towards a Brave New World, a 1984 or a Fahrenheit 451 direction. Pretty sad.


Title: Re: Is it possible that the 1% group want to kill us intentionally with covid ?
Post by: leyton11 on August 25, 2020, 05:40:23 AM
This Covid-19 virus is actually thought to be man-made, and it is a biological weapon to sabotage the economy. The United States is the country most affected and also the country with the most deaths. But one more good thing is that this virus is contagious but it will kill the old but not the young. This shows that this is a pre-programmed virus and it is too dangerous for the general economy. Besides, it doesn't mean anything in killing people. This is just an economic virus.


Title: Re: Is it possible that the 1% group want to kill us intentionally with covid ?
Post by: NeuroticFish on August 25, 2020, 05:48:38 AM
Actually humans are cheaper on long term than robots. Look at the 3rd world countries.
And the virus did hit bad those countries.
So no, this theory doesn't stand.


Title: Re: Is it possible that the 1% group want to kill us intentionally with covid ?
Post by: davis196 on August 25, 2020, 06:58:13 AM
The so called "1% group" isn't a united elite.There are at least several different rich elites that sometimes can fight against each other.
Such conspiracy theory might have been true,if COVID-19 was a really deadly virus,which isn't the case.
Coronavirus isn't that deadly and millions of people have been cured so far.
Rich people are like wolves and wolves need sheep.If there aren't enough sheep,the wolves will starve to death and start killing each other.That's how mother nature works.Rich people actually need poor people.


Title: Re: Is it possible that the 1% group want to kill us intentionally with covid ?
Post by: Mauser on August 25, 2020, 08:30:51 AM
This Covid-19 virus is actually thought to be man-made, and it is a biological weapon to sabotage the economy. The United States is the country most affected and also the country with the most deaths. But one more good thing is that this virus is contagious but it will kill the old but not the young. This shows that this is a pre-programmed virus and it is too dangerous for the general economy. Besides, it doesn't mean anything in killing people. This is just an economic virus.

There is still no independent research team looking in how the virus originated in Wuhan. Also the internet is full of people trying to spread the virus. There is plenty of footage from elevator security cameras where people are spitting on the buttons or coughing in their hands and wiping the doors. There is probably more than 1% of the population with many evil thoughts, trying to harm others, especially if they think no one else is watching. But this group is not the 1% richest people of the world. It's just average people. Why would want the richest people in the world kill everyone? We are working for them for a very low wage and help them to get richer. If they would kill us, who would buy their products?


Title: Re: Is it possible that the 1% group want to kill us intentionally with covid ?
Post by: Oasisman on August 25, 2020, 09:42:00 AM
But they do need them. The reason the 1% are the 1% (at least the most powerful of the 1%) is down to exploitation of many workers and the size of the population..

Billionaires and millionaires cna make their money either directly or indirectly from factories employing people in countries like China, India and Thailand where its less cost to live and more demand for jobs than availability so people are forced to work in poor conditions (afaik).

Yeah but technology/robots/ai will replace human labor ...so if you don't need people you got to "get rid of junk" ,as human without work are dangerous ...

Nah, IMO we are not in that era yet. Manpower are still the most essential function in the production floor from any business model today. Though we have some advanced robot who can multiply the productivity and efficiency than humans, but these robot still needs human to operate.
Lets put that to the long list of the conspiracy theory of Covid-19.
But, I am more inclined into believing that Covid was created to attack and destroy the economic state of each countries.


Title: Re: có thể là nhóm 1% muốn giết chúng tôi cố ý với covid?
Post by: ilovealtcoins on August 25, 2020, 10:04:39 AM
I have heard about 1% of the world, they are the richest people in the world and can control the world economy and politics. I also have the same suspicion that they have caused pandemics, war, and other threats to the entire world. I noticed that in the last pandemic the countries in Southeast Asia that have fought the pandemic very well are Laos, Cambodia, Thailand, Vietnam ... They have controlled the pandemic quickly and gone. into production. I have traveled to these countries and I find the people here very happy and sociable. They have a unique culture and people are very united.
How are we going to win 1% of the world? I think that the love between people and economic autonomy is the most important thing.


Title: Re: Is it possible that the 1% group want to kill us intentionally with covid ?
Post by: tabas on August 25, 2020, 10:56:59 AM
Conspiracies. Rich or poor, this virus is killing everybody. I've heard several conspiracies regarding this covid19 is just a man-made virus and there's a lab that's made it and before spreading it, they already have a vaccine so that their people will be safe from it.
But that conspiracy is just a conspiracy, this virus doesn't know how to choose because it's killing everyone that can't survive to recover.


Title: Re: Is it possible that the 1% group want to kill us intentionally with covid ?
Post by: bitsurfer2014 on August 25, 2020, 12:36:39 PM
I have a theory why covid plague started :

Now the world population is around 8 billion people ...

What if a group a people started this plague intentionally do to fact technology/ai etc will replace human labor  so they do not have to deal with humans going on strike ,pensions ,health,riots,food,water,salaries etc..

It's also easy to do land grabbing if the owner is dead.(" The death of many Aztecs at the hands of the plague led to a void in land ownership, with Spanish colonists of all backgrounds looking to exploit these now vacant lands" --https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocoliztli_epidemics)

I beg to disagree! Your conspiracy theory may sound interesting but it looks ridiculous based on your argument that this pandemic was intentionally started by a group of people for the sole purpose of replacing human labor and its related issues and at the same time taking advantages of anyone's possessions.

I would like to point out that if your theory is indeed true, then those conspirators should have developed a virus that is able to target only the labor force around the world to be able to enforce their agenda but that is not the case right now since this virus don't discriminate nationality, occupation, age, gender, etc.

I mean it could possibly infect almost everyone else whether or not he or she had a job or he or she  had any real estate or any other assets for takeover and worthy of such horrifying acts. Imho. :)


Title: Re: Is it possible that the 1% group want to kill us intentionally with covid ?
Post by: tyz on August 25, 2020, 12:51:48 PM
Such theories are absolute non-sense. Think about it, the 1% would be 80 million people where there must be no traitor, otherwise the whole plan would be ruined. That is simply impossible. If it is, then it would have to be 0.0001% or less. But as said, it is quite well proven (DNA-technically) where the virus comes from.


Title: Re: Is it possible that the 1% group want to kill us intentionally with covid ?
Post by: Harlot on August 25, 2020, 01:21:44 PM
With various talks I had with several people related in the Science industry both doctors and scientist most of them believe that the new strain of Coronavirus is man made for the reason of how it mutates fast as well as infect rapidly which isn't in the nature of this family but for us to assume that the whole 1% is doing this is simply not convincing. The 1% are rich because of us 99% if they decide to wipe us all then their business will be the ones affected which is really showing now where a lot of companies are going bankrupt or at least downsizing. Other than that you will see in the news that even notable people with power and money are also getting infected by these virus, they aren't really immune to this like we are.


Title: Re: Is it possible that the 1% group want to kill us intentionally with covid ?
Post by: Ozero on August 25, 2020, 02:14:55 PM
I have a theory why covid plague started :
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Is it possible that the 1% group want to kill us intentionally (get rid of the people they don't need)?

Considering that the 1% are just as vulnerable as everyone else, that wouldn't make sense.
It seems that the deliberate actions of the same 1 percent that rule the world in the shadow mode are still there. I do not know if they wanted to reduce the number of the world's population through mortality, but there is an artificial excitement around the coronavirus pandemic. In my country, more people died from common colds last year than this year from coronavirus. In fact, people die from various concomitant diseases, and indicate that death was from the coronavirus. Famous doctors speak with us and say that they are forced to diagnose death from coronavirus, even if it came from other causes. Based on this, such tough measures are being taken that simply destroy the economies of all states. Maybe this is intentional? After all, the bulk of the population is destitute from this. Maybe this one percent is doing it?


Title: Re: Is it possible that the 1% group want to kill us intentionally with covid ?
Post by: ethereumhunter on August 25, 2020, 02:23:11 PM
I think we are not ready to use AI to replace humans to work in many business fields. We still need to have employees work, and many people willing to work offline. We may need more years to see the AI because I think the AI needs to develop more before the AI can be used to replace human work. But I don't know if 1% of the group can use their power to do anything they want, but it could be possible because we don't know how strong they are.


Title: Re: Is it possible that the 1% group want to kill us intentionally with covid ?
Post by: plvbob0070 on August 25, 2020, 04:13:39 PM
The theory that this pandemic is intentional might be true but we can't be sure of the real reason behind it. And I doubt that the reason is to replace human labor. Just like what others said, the virus does not choose people to infect and even rich people get infected by it. If ever this is a planned pandemic, maybe it's for a different reason.

I think we are not ready to use AI to replace humans to work in many business fields. We still need to have employees work, and many people willing to work offline. We may need more years to see the AI because I think the AI needs to develop more before the AI can be used to replace human work. But I don't know if 1% of the group can use their power to do anything they want, but it could be possible because we don't know how strong they are.
I agree with you that most businesses are still relying on human labor. Perhaps they can afford AI because they are rich but they will still need human labor in a lot of cases and that 1% group of people are also benefitting from them.


Title: Re: Is it possible that the 1% group want to kill us intentionally with covid ?
Post by: jaysabi on August 25, 2020, 04:37:43 PM

Is it possible that the 1% group want to kill us intentionally (get rid of the people they don't need)?


Snipped all the garbage out of this post to get at the only relevant question worth addressing here, which is an economic question at heart.  The answer is no and the reason is basic economic principles about the creation of wealth.  More people means more economic activity, and more economic activity makes those at the top of the socioeconomic ladder more wealthy.  If you have less people you have less total wealth in the world because there is less economic activity, which means less wealth accumulates at the top rungs of society in absolute terms.  The more people there are, the more consumers of everything there are.  The idea that the "wealthy" want less people in the world is an idiotic idea just for the economics of it, but you've gone and made the idea even dumber by turning it into a conspiracy theory about the wealthy wanting to cull the world's population.


Title: Re: Is it possible that the 1% group want to kill us intentionally with covid ?
Post by: AicecreaME on August 27, 2020, 05:26:53 AM
I don't think it makes sense at all. If they want to eradicate those people that aren't useful to introduce new technology to the production industry which you said is AI, human guidance and work is still needed.

The production of robots and other machines would be very complex and more COSTLY and it can't be created by mere technology without a human interacting with it. The coding, designs, and concepts would all be done by human to produce such. And it would really time a long time to be fully developed since we aren't really that close in developing an almost perfect AI yet.

Another thing is that the virus doesn't recognize which one to kill. It can be anyone else. Rich, poor, powerful, famous, or average person, it really doesn't matter.

What i think is much more believable conspiracy is this virus is actually a man-made and was produced to be a bio-weapon to shut down America so that China could rule and top the world. Well, it's just me and my silly mind for this thought.


Title: Re: Is it possible that the 1% group want to kill us intentionally with covid ?
Post by: peter0425 on August 27, 2020, 07:22:19 AM
You have a Broad imagination But how could this be true having group of people that wanted to destroy humanity just to have a robotics labor system?
lol they can do even better even when there is humans because Robotics is more accurate and faster than humans so what is the need for virus spreading when there is no reason to do such?
Such theories are absolute non-sense.
Yups all is crap and also a thinking of elementary student lol

we will not die because they dont have the virus

Nice one ,so where is the virus after all?