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Title: Someone who believed virus not real had wife dead to Covid-19
Post by: Charles-Tim on August 25, 2020, 07:28:09 AM
Brian Lee Hitchens and his wife, Erin, had read claims online that the virus was fabricated, linked to 5G or similar to the flu. The couple didn't follow health guidance or seek help when they fell ill in early May. Brian recovered but his 46-year-old wife became critically ill and died this month from heart problems linked to the virus. Her husband explained that the couple did not follow health guidance at the start of the pandemic because of the false claims they had seen online. Brian continued to work as a taxi driver and to collect his wife's medicine without observing social distancing rules or wearing a mask.  They had also failed to seek help as soon as possible when they fell ill in May and were both subsequently diagnosed with Covid-19. Brian told BBC News that he "wished [he'd] listened from the beginning" and hoped his wife would forgive him.  This is a real virus that affects people differently. I can't change the past. I can only live in today and make better choices for the future," Brian explained.

The full news at
BBC News - Man who believed virus was hoax loses wife to Covid-19
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53892856

Also I noticed people like to undermine covid-19 until they fall victim or they know someone that fall victim. Please, prevention is better than cure, let us all, all the time be using facemask and hand sanitizers. And at home, soap is better. We should also try as possible to maintain social distance.


Title: Re: Someone who believed virus not real had wife dead to Covid-19
Post by: franky1 on August 25, 2020, 08:01:15 AM
they say its fake and the government is stepping in too much
they get sick
they say its real and the government didnt do enough to stop it at the beginning

more on the story above
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edx7r54GrR0
(as charles-rim reveals. his wife eventually died due to covid after weeks on ventilater)


Title: Re: Someone who believed virus not real had wife dead to Covid-19
Post by: Charles-Tim on August 25, 2020, 08:15:43 AM
they say its fake and the government is stepping in too much
they get sick
they say its real and the government didnt do enough to stop it at the beginning
You are very right, humans are so complicated. They always blame the government while the government are trying their best to eliminate the disease. Itis good to be wise in life as humans are not perfect. I maintain social distance, have my hand sanitizers and do all other precautions in order to stay healthy. All these take nothing from me, while ain't all people not thinking this way.


Title: Re: Someone who believed virus not real had wife dead to Covid-19
Post by: akram143 on August 25, 2020, 09:36:00 AM
The virus is real and there is no denying in that but it not a deadly one like ebola or something we had in the past, everyone wish to save their life by wearing mask and using hand sanitizer for every few minutes but in this world millions of people are not sure how they are going to get their next meal then how it is possible for them we buy disinfectants and sanitizers.


Title: Re: Someone who believed virus not real had wife dead to Covid-19
Post by: Kuffy on August 25, 2020, 10:27:29 AM
If he was collecting medicine for her, then that probably killed her, or the disease that required the medicine. It wouldn't be the virus, although many people try to blame all deaths on the virus


Title: Re: Someone who believed virus not real had wife dead to Covid-19
Post by: BADecker on August 25, 2020, 10:40:18 AM
Dead wives aren't proof for a virus.

We are sorry for all loss of life, but it isn't loss of life that proves it was a virus that did it.

For example, someone might die in a car accident. Some virus didn't do it.

For example, doctors make all kinds of mistakes in what they say and do. If they didn't, people would stop dying.

So, how does anyone know that it was a virus that killed anyone? And even if it was, how does anyone know which virus it was?

You are believing the doctors. After all, they wouldn't lie to you, would they? They can't make mistakes, can they?

Well, let's see them prove what they say. If you don't get proof, you are simply believing... like you would if you went to church.

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Title: Re: Someone who believed virus not real had wife dead to Covid-19
Post by: Mauser on August 25, 2020, 10:57:02 AM
they say its fake and the government is stepping in too much
they get sick
they say its real and the government didnt do enough to stop it at the beginning


This sums it up pretty good. As long as everything is alright people are just focused on them self's and their own family. But once infected with corona everything changes. That's probably also why so many people fight against the safety procedures like wearing masks or social distancing. If we would all think more about the good for everyone and follow rules, corona wouldn't be so serious.


Title: Re: Someone who believed virus not real had wife dead to Covid-19
Post by: franky1 on August 25, 2020, 11:41:32 AM
they say its fake and the government is stepping in too much
they get sick
they say its real and the government didnt do enough to stop it at the beginning


This sums it up pretty good. As long as everything is alright people are just focused on them self's and their own family. But once infected with corona everything changes. That's probably also why so many people fight against the safety procedures like wearing masks or social distancing. If we would all think more about the good for everyone and follow rules, corona wouldn't be so serious.

i totally get it. people dont like wearing seatbelts in cars and they prefer to text while they drive because it saves time. but when these idiots then claim car accidents dont exist as their lame excuse not to think about their own safety while driving or the other road uses they come near.. is more idiotic then their own lack of self care

i totally get that people dont like to chargrill their beef and prefer it raw. but there is a difference between a personal choice to risk stomach aches due to food poisoning. vs being an idiot trying to claim bacteria doesnt exist as their excuse to never cook meat

i totally get it. not wanting to wear protection whie having sex. but being an idiot pretending sexually transmitted diseases or pregnancies dont exist just so you can have sex without a condom is just foolish
if you think saying 'dont worry you wont get pregnant' is the excuse to ride bareback. your an idiot

i totally get that some idiots want to take risks and not care about consequences to themselves or others. but can they atleast understand there is a risk to many things in life including viruses. and then just announce that they personally are an idiot that doesnt care about risks. then they can get on with their life and people can learn who to stay away from and be aware of


Title: Re: Someone who believed virus not real had wife dead to Covid-19
Post by: fortunecrypto on August 25, 2020, 01:47:42 PM


The full news at
BBC News - Man who believed virus was hoax loses wife to Covid-19
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53892856

Also I noticed people like to undermine covid-19 until they fall victim or they know someone that fall victim. Please, prevention is better than cure, let us all, all the time be using facemask and hand sanitizers. And at home, soap is better. We should also try as possible to maintain social distance.

This is not an isolated case so many people still believe that CoVid is fabricated and not real, this is very risky behavior when even people who are very careful and follow the protocol can get the virus, people should watch and check what is happening today and don't act like a superhuman being that they are not vulnerable to the virus, repenting is very late.


Title: Re: Someone who believed virus not real had wife dead to Covid-19
Post by: BADecker on August 25, 2020, 11:59:13 PM
Come on! Now we have to prove viruses aren't real? Since nobody has proven that they ARE real, this should be easy.


Chromosome 8 w/ David Icke and Dr. Kaufman (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/289333-2020-08-25-chromosome-8-w-david-icke-and-dr-kaufman.htm)



David Icke lays it down on the Fake False Positive Covid-19 PCR Test! He's on fire!! ???? And on this show he's got Dr. Kaufman on who knows the PCR Test inside out and used it for years. Chromosome 8 is discussed! Boom!


Chromosome 8 w/ David Icke and Dr. Kaufman
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/APMLDOR_fAU/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEjCPYBEIoBSFryq4qpAxUIARUAAAAAGAElAADIQj0AgKJDeAE=&rs=AOn4CLA5s8kuVuKg2RzMS4ogMYnbgWLoFg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APMLDOR_fAU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APMLDOR_fAU)


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Title: Re: Someone who believed virus not real had wife dead to Covid-19
Post by: BADecker on August 26, 2020, 02:28:00 AM
Come on! Now we have to prove viruses aren't real? Since nobody has proven that they ARE real, this should be easy.


Chromosome 8 w/ David Icke and Dr. Kaufman (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/289333-2020-08-25-chromosome-8-w-david-icke-and-dr-kaufman.htm)



David Icke lays it down on the Fake False Positive Covid-19 PCR Test! He's on fire!! ???? And on this show he's got Dr. Kaufman on who knows the PCR Test inside out and used it for years. Chromosome 8 is discussed! Boom!


Chromosome 8 w/ David Icke and Dr. Kaufman
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/APMLDOR_fAU/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEjCPYBEIoBSFryq4qpAxUIARUAAAAAGAElAADIQj0AgKJDeAE=&rs=AOn4CLA5s8kuVuKg2RzMS4ogMYnbgWLoFg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APMLDOR_fAU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APMLDOR_fAU)


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As you can see, the above video is down as listed. Youtube has dumped it because it shows the truth about the Covid lie. If you want a video location for this video, PM me with the title of the video in the subject and the body "Chromosome 8 w/ David Icke and Dr. Kaufman" and I will PM the video location back to you.

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Title: Re: Someone who believed virus not real had wife dead to Covid-19
Post by: xenon131 on August 26, 2020, 06:12:08 AM
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Unfortunately, many people cannot assess the threat themselves ,  for various reasons  either of their ignorance and low level of education or because of the fact that they are easily accessible to propaganda that offers the most easy but not always right way of behavior  in pandemic atmosphere like world has right now. Really sorry for him.


Title: Re: Someone who believed virus not real had wife dead to Covid-19
Post by: tvbcof on August 26, 2020, 07:52:53 AM
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The full news at
BBC News - Man who believed virus was hoax loses wife to Covid-19
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53892856
...

Lol!  Same corporation who brought us the news about Saddam's WMDs.  The outfit exists to propagandize in support of corp/gov projects and they are under no obligation to tell the truth about anything.

A person would have to be a pretty lame simpleton to believe anything out of the BBC, or any other mainstream media outlet for that matter.  Especially anything about someone 'dying of covid-19' since the tests are still meaningless even if they wanted to report honestly.



Title: Re: Someone who believed virus not real had wife dead to Covid-19
Post by: Charles-Tim on August 26, 2020, 09:31:21 AM
If he was collecting medicine for her, then that probably killed her, or the disease that required the medicine. It wouldn't be the virus, although many people try to blame all deaths on the virus
The husband was a taxi driver or something, there were evidences that the man contracted the disease first, and later spread it to his wife. The man was healthy before the disease, and was later healed. But the wife had pneumonia, as well know such disease (pneumonia) likely can make covid-19 to have its way until the victim is dead. The man even wishing for forgiveness from his dead wife.


Title: Re: Someone who believed virus not real had wife dead to Covid-19
Post by: Kuffy on August 26, 2020, 11:37:14 AM
So once again we have a fake report of a Corona virus death. So far nobody seems to have claimed the reward for reporting a genuine death of a healthy person from the virus. With no deaths anywhere in the world from the virus, why are we treating it with such panic?

It seems that the definition of a healthy person has changed. You have to be taking the recommended pharmaceuticals to be considered healthy now. A person with no illness, and who takes no drugs or medicine, and who refuses crippling vaccinations, is no longer considered to be healthy. It's the same as reporting banks who are well under water with toxic debt as healthy.


Title: Re: Someone who believed virus not real had wife dead to Covid-19
Post by: squatz1 on August 26, 2020, 04:21:20 PM
If he was collecting medicine for her, then that probably killed her, or the disease that required the medicine. It wouldn't be the virus, although many people try to blame all deaths on the virus
The husband was a taxi driver or something, there were evidences that the man contracted the disease first, and later spread it to his wife. The man was healthy before the disease, and was later healed. But the wife had pneumonia, as well know such disease (pneumonia) likely can make covid-19 to have its way until the victim is dead. The man even wishing for forgiveness from his dead wife.

Horrible to see. There's really nothing that can be done for someone that works in an industry like that to properly protect his/her family though. The best thing is to ensure that you have the little Plexiglass barrier between the front and back, use hand sanitizers, and make the people in your cab wear a mask as it's not possible to socially distance in a cab.

Even though this person thought it is a hoax (was a hoax I guess for that matter) it's still horrible to see someones loved one die either way.

But even if they didn't think it was a hoax, it's impossible for a cab driver to work from home so they'd be forced to work either way. It's either that, or make no money -- and that's not a possibility.


Title: Re: Someone who believed virus not real had wife dead to Covid-19
Post by: Chrystora123 on August 26, 2020, 07:07:46 PM
snip..
very touched by his story..  A husband should be a good example for his wife, not the other way around, now all he has is a big regret that can't be turned back.  for someone who has a history of other diseases, COVID-19 is very dangerous, almost 90% of positive patients with COVID-19 who died because of other diseases that triggered it.  protect and always supervise the healthy way of life of your family who have a history of other dangerous diseases or who get sick easily because they are very vulnerable to COVID-19.


Title: Re: Someone who believed virus not real had wife dead to Covid-19
Post by: BADecker on August 26, 2020, 07:26:33 PM
^^^ Except that nobody knows it was Covid, since the virus hasn't even been isolated, yet... and since the RNA in the virus is the same as the DNA in our cells, in chromosome 8. She died of something, obviously, but it is totally an unknown.


More Experts Concede: Covid Lockdowns Were A Disaster (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/289373-2020-08-26-more-experts-concede-covid-lockdowns-were-a-disaster.htm)



Quote from:
From mainstream publications like the Wall Street Journal to top government health advisors in the UK, a consensus is building that the sledgehammer of Covid lockdowns has been an unmitigated disaster. It's good news that more mainstream sources are coming our way, but the dark forces of authoritarianism are not about to release their grasp so easily. Also today - Plasma treatment is getting the HCQ treatment in the MSM and New York sees introduction of mandatory detention and vaccine bill.


More Experts Concede: Covid Lockdowns Were A Disaster
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/uWt2hkDaQV8/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEjCPYBEIoBSFryq4qpAxUIARUAAAAAGAElAADIQj0AgKJDeAE=&rs=AOn4CLBTx4_VIKKJspqOytGXpDCzbs6mQg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWt2hkDaQV8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWt2hkDaQV8)


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Title: Re: Someone who believed virus not real had wife dead to Covid-19
Post by: franky1 on August 26, 2020, 09:49:20 PM
the virus has been isolated
it passed the koch, rivers, bell tests.
so that debunks your kaufman claims. yep i already told you this several times you ignorant idiot

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also the french method of isolating the virus is to have the whole bodily fluid sample and identify the human elements and disgard them
the 'chromosone 8' as you buzzword is it a HSC which is used to disgard the bits they dont want (human dna)
if you read the table of sequences the french use there are like 7 of them.

it separates the human from the viral. where it first just uses known human pattern and know general sars pattern
then concentrating on the sars family. it then checks which variant it is to make sure its the covid-19 and not previous generation of sars

consider yourself debunked yet again.

think of it as having a house party. with people bringing their pet dogs.
you know one of the dogs bit you. but in a busy house party its hard to know it that particular dog is there
 
first you tell the humans to leave by knowing what to look for(looking at the humans and telling them to leave). and then you see if you can find the dog breed your looking for now all the humans are not in the way


Title: Re: Someone who believed virus not real had wife dead to Covid-19
Post by: BADecker on August 26, 2020, 10:09:21 PM
the virus has been isolated
it passed the koch, rivers, bell tests.
so that debunks your kaufman claims. yep i already told you this several times you ignorant idiot
Oh yeah? Where? Between your two front teeth? Find us a test that was done correctly. Find us some test subjects that were infected intentionally. Hey, buddy. Such tests might be there... somewhere. But where? Lol. :D



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also the french method of isolating the virus is to have the whole bodily fluid sample and identify the human elements and disgard them
the 'chromosone 8' as you buzzword is it a HSC which is used to disgard the bits they dont want (human dna)
if you read the table of sequences the french use there are like 7 of them.
Well, that makes sense. If you don't want anybody to see the C-8 DNA, go ahead and discard it. What better way to hide it? That way you can shout "Covid" all day long, and nobody will be the wiser.

Oh, btw, the CDC is the one that shows that Covid RNA is the same as some of the C-8 DNA. Let the Frenchy's do it their way. Doesn't change anything at all.



it separates the human from the viral. where it first just uses known human pattern and know general sars pattern
then concentrating on the sars family. it then checks which variant it is to make sure its the covid-19 and not previous generation of sars

consider yourself debunked yet again.
Lol. Who is talking about a general pattern? The C-8 DNA segment perfectly matches the Covid RNA segment.

Hey, man. Why do you want to debink debunk yourself like that all the time... right in the words you say.

EDIT: Separating the human from the viral only confirms that there isn't any viral, but that it all is human... exosomes.



think of it as having a house party. with people bringing their pet dogs.
you know one of the dogs bit you. but in a busy house party its hard to know it that particular dog is there
 
first you tell the humans to leave by knowing what to look for(looking at the humans and telling them to leave). and then you see if you can find the dog breed your looking for now all the humans are not in the way

First, in the lockdowns, they don't let us have house parties.

Second, you don't say that you can't find the dog without an examination of the dogs and the bite. And that is exactly what the DNA/RNA molecules are. Exact identification.

You been to a house party in the last few days or something? Still hung over, right? :D

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EDIT: Btw, if you can find a properly done test, that'd be great. Dr. Andrew Kaufman would truly like to see it.


Title: Re: Someone who believed virus not real had wife dead to Covid-19
Post by: samputin on August 27, 2020, 12:23:46 AM
Of course, it's real. Though it's not as deadly as those other virus we've encountered before, it's still dangerous and can cause death especially when the person affected has already an illness, or have a weak immunity system. It's just sad that those mentioned in the op didn't take it seriously as early as possible. They had to experience the virus itself, and worse, death, before they realize that it's real.

For those who still don't take the virus seriously, maybe they should think twice or thrice or even more before breaking the rules before its all too late. Better safe than sorry.


Title: Re: Someone who believed virus not real had wife dead to Covid-19
Post by: BADecker on August 27, 2020, 01:35:27 AM
Of course, it's real. Though it's not as deadly as those other virus we've encountered before, it's still dangerous and can cause death especially when the person affected has already an illness, or have a weak immunity system. It's just sad that those mentioned in the op didn't take it seriously as early as possible. They had to experience the virus itself, and worse, death, before they realize that it's real.

For those who still don't take the virus seriously, maybe they should think twice or thrice or even more before breaking the rules before its all too late. Better safe than sorry.

What rules? We are finding out that there was never any proper analysis done to prove that there is a virus.

This means that good nutrition and toxin control are the rules.

Dentists are complaining about mouth diseases in people who wear masks and come in for dentist work on their teeth.

Lockdowns are killing the economy. The question is starting to become one of enough food for the coming winter.

Playing sissy to the imaginary Covid virus is breaking the rules of life.

Fear of the imaginary virus is pushing vaccine makers to make more vaccines which are dangerous for everybody, and never necessary.

The people in the OP were analyzed for their own DNA, and it was called Covid. But really, nobody knows what she died from.

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Title: Re: Someone who believed virus not real had wife dead to Covid-19
Post by: franky1 on August 27, 2020, 12:23:19 PM
lockdown is not killing the economy
if you care more about money than health then your an idiot

money can be created in an instant on computers. so the economy can look after itself. government can just create new money and the call it a write off to cancel the 'debt'

yep new laws can be made that creating money doesnt come with a 'debt' afterwards
so stop caring about the economy


Title: Re: Someone who believed virus not real had wife dead to Covid-19
Post by: mindrust on August 27, 2020, 12:31:08 PM
Natural selection.

This is  best outcome of this pandemic.

Those who are smart enough to protect themselves have higher chances to survive than the morons who think they are invincible or the virus is some kind of hoax.


Title: Re: Someone who believed virus not real had wife dead to Covid-19
Post by: BADecker on August 27, 2020, 04:30:01 PM
There might really be a so-called Covid virus (really, some exosomes that are trying to do their job of cleaning up toxins in heavily poisoned people).

But disregarding the idea of viruses (which the best medical researchers disagree on), there are probably a few more deaths from something newish, than would have happened without the newish thing.

But there is no death pandemic. Way more people die of heart disease, cancer, or diabetes.

The one sort of good thing that New York did, was to try to get people to live and eat healthier. Of course, they weren't doing it for the people. They were only farming their herd, so that they could get more tax money out of them.

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