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Title: Purchased account?
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on August 25, 2020, 07:51:19 AM
Purchased account?

yhiaali3 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2168312)

The account is written in Arabic. Registration date May 31, 2018, 01:01:19 AM
All previously written messages have been deleted.
Account woke up
11/10/2019 9:04:40 PM password reset via email
11/10/2019 9:05:05 PM woke up

On the awakening day, the account asks a very strange question about the merit and activity system.
The question arises, after a year and a half, the account does not know about the merit system or about the activity.

السلام عليكم
أنا عضو جديد بالمنتدى ولا أفهم بعض الأشياء في هذا المنتدى على سبيل المثال:
ماذا تعني Activity: 9
Merit: 0
ماذا يعني ذلك؟ ما هي Activity وما هي Merit؟ وماذا تفيد وكيف أزيدها؟
من لديه معرفة بهذه الأمور فليساعدنا لوسمحتم وجزاكم الله كل خير.

I am a new member of the forum and do not understand some things in this forum. For example:
What does Activity: 9
Merit: 0
mean? What does that mean? What is Activity and what is merit? What does it benefit and how do I increase it?

Whoever has knowledge of these matters, let him help us, please, may God reward you

(Archive (https://archive.st/exfv))
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5177328.msg53046259#msg53046259
https://archive.st/t167

But immediately after he woke up, he began to write very actively

The account does not belong to the original owner????


Title: Re: Purchased account?
Post by: Little Mouse on August 25, 2020, 08:17:42 AM
While he has 460 merits on his profile  :D
I just have checked that most of his received merits are from deleted posts. It seems like the account belonged to account farmar may be and now sold. Asking such a question despite having a lot of merit on profile is definitely shady looking.
Did you google translated the arabic text? Sometimes, google translation can be totally different than the actial meaning.

Edit- It seems like I misunderstood. The post was from last year.


Title: Re: Purchased account?
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on August 25, 2020, 08:23:56 AM
I don't think the very context of the message will be completely opposite.


Title: Re: Purchased account?
Post by: LoyceV on August 25, 2020, 08:51:20 AM
I just have checked that most of his received merits are from deleted posts.
That's not true. The posts may be off-limits to you if you blocked the board, but they aren't deleted.


Title: Re: Purchased account?
Post by: Little Mouse on August 25, 2020, 08:55:07 AM
That's not true. The posts may be off-limits to you if you blocked the board, but they aren't deleted.
My bad, I have totally forgotten than I have ignored all the local board other than Other Language only. That's why I can not see them there.


Title: Re: Purchased account?
Post by: TalkStar on August 25, 2020, 09:46:16 AM
But immediately after he woke up, he began to write very actively

The account does not belong to the original owner????
After creating the account he made his first post on May 31, 2018 but didn't continue his activity from June 28, 2018 to November 11, 2019. So its clear that his account was inactive for nearly 17 month and started to make post again. I will suggest you to visit his post history again and specifically check the difference between his last (June 28, 2018) and new post (November 11, 2019) .

I want to let you know that after creating the account he made all posts in English until he get inactive on June 28, 2018 but surprisingly started to make all posts in Arabic from November 11, 2018. It seems to me that during 17 month inactivity account ownership has been changed and new owner is using the account from last November.


Title: Re: Purchased account?
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on August 25, 2020, 10:09:49 AM

I want to let you know that after creating the account he made all posts in English until he get inactive on June 28, 2018 but surprisingly started to make all posts in Arabic from November 11, 2018. It seems to me that during 17 month inactivity account ownership has been changed and new owner is using the account from last November.


It will be very interesting for me to listen to the account owner himself. I asked him a question about it. Perhaps he will tell us the truth, although I very much doubt it.


Title: Re: Purchased account?
Post by: hacker1001101001 on August 25, 2020, 11:25:33 AM
I want to let you know that after creating the account he made all posts in English until he get inactive on June 28, 2018 but surprisingly started to make all posts in Arabic from November 11, 2018. It seems to me that during 17 month inactivity account ownership has been changed and new owner is using the account from last November.

I don't think that is the case, as the username sound's like Arabic or from an Arabic person.

I even see his Twitter and Telegram profiles mentioned in the first message posted by him on May 31, 2018 still active. The telegram id was last active today.

1.Telegram username: @yhiaali
2.Twitter username: @yhiaali

Could be the same owner discovering merits in 2019 a bit late, after which he started receiving merits generously from his fellow Arabic community.


Title: Re: Purchased account?
Post by: Rizzrack on August 25, 2020, 12:07:58 PM
Telegram Username: @yhiaali

Telegram username: @yhiaali

Was curios and also skimmed through his post history but everything seems legit.
Same telegram user since 2018...

After creating the account he made his first post on May 31, 2018 but didn't continue his activity from June 28, 2018 to November 11, 2019. So its clear that his account was inactive for nearly 17 month and started to make post again.

Just a guy making an account, was inactive for some time and then came back to ask about mining. After a few replies started to notice some weird things like "activity", "merit" and asked around about them and remained active since. Pretty straightforward IMO.


Title: Re: Purchased account?
Post by: yhiaali3 on August 25, 2020, 04:08:38 PM

I want to let you know that after creating the account he made all posts in English until he get inactive on June 28, 2018 but surprisingly started to make all posts in Arabic from November 11, 2018. It seems to me that during 17 month inactivity account ownership has been changed and new owner is using the account from last November.


It will be very interesting for me to listen to the account owner himself. I asked him a question about it. Perhaps he will tell us the truth, although I very much doubt it.

Well, I am the owner of the account that you have put under trial in absentia, and I will confess everything
In the beginning, I am surprised when all this scrutiny and suspicion of my account
The story is very simple and never complicated
I started working in cryptocurrencies at the beginning by subscribing to Airdrop and Bounty, and I got to know the Bitcoin Talk forum through that, as they were asking to write there to participate in the bounty campaigns, so I participated for the first time around 2018 and I did not have much experience at the time and did not know the terms of the forum I made a first account and was banned Because it was like spamming that I was writing trivial things to get my bounty only and the first account was blocked, then the second one, I also created the third account and wrote some posts and then stopped writing because I found that the bounty and airdrop campaigns are all a waste of time (I mean the ones outside the forum).
I left writing on the forum for a long time and worked on many other things, but through one of the groups I learned that there are signatures campaigns in the Bitcoin Talk forum and you can subscribe to it and earn money by upgrading membership and writing well. Then I went back to the forum and actually I did not know anything about the activity system or the merit system, so I entered the Arab section because I am from Syria and I started asking the members there about these things and they answered me.
It was then that I started choosing good topics and writing them well with their explanations and pictures because I have good experience as a result of my long work in Crypto. I began to receive merit points with integrity and as a result of my work, and I really do not know any member of the Arabic section personally. But they started to give me merit when they saw my subjects.
You are right. The account looks really suspicious, but I swear that I am the original owner of the account and did not purchase it, and this is my story exactly as I told you.


Title: Re: Purchased account?
Post by: hacker1001101001 on August 25, 2020, 04:13:44 PM
I made a first account and was banned Because it was like spamming that I was writing trivial things to get my bounty only and the first account was blocked

The only wrong thing in your story. You are ban evading according to forum rules.


Title: Re: Purchased account?
Post by: yhiaali3 on August 25, 2020, 04:16:46 PM

The only wrong thing in your story. You are ban evading according to forum rules.

Well yes, I admitted that I broke the forum rules the first and second time but then I learned from my mistakes and started writing really well. The result is now visible to you.


Title: Re: Purchased account?
Post by: Jawhead999 on August 25, 2020, 04:26:46 PM
Well yes, I admitted that I broke the forum rules the first and second time but then I learned from my mistakes and started writing really well. The result is now visible to you.
To be honest I appreciate your effort to change your behavior from a spammer to a good poster. But rules is rules, you will be banned sooner or later since you're evading ban now :)


Title: Re: Purchased account?
Post by: yhiaali3 on August 25, 2020, 04:39:13 PM

To be honest I appreciate your effort to change your behavior from a spammer to a good poster. But rules is rules, you will be banned sooner or later since you're evading ban now :)

Thank you, but isn't creating more than one account allowed within the forum rules? My goal was not to evade the ban, but my goal was to create a new account and start over well and differently from the previous one after I realized my previous mistakes.
If I had wanted to evade or cheat, I wouldn’t admit my mistakes in front of everyone now


Title: Re: Purchased account?
Post by: Pffrt on August 25, 2020, 04:50:10 PM
Thank you, but isn't creating more than one account allowed within the forum rules? My goal was not to evade the ban, but my goal was to create a new account and start over well and differently from the previous one after I realized my previous mistakes.
If I had wanted to evade or cheat, I wouldn’t admit my mistakes in front of everyone now
Let me share you thata ban of an account is a ban personally, you as a person is banned from using this forum, not your account only. There may exception if you can make mods understood your point but the chance is zero for sure.


Title: Re: Purchased account?
Post by: mindrust on August 25, 2020, 04:57:54 PM

The only wrong thing in your story. You are ban evading according to forum rules.

Well yes, I admitted that I broke the forum rules the first and second time but then I learned from my mistakes and started writing really well. The result is now visible to you.

Looks like the mods/admins don't care about the ban evaders anymore.

It was a shitty rule anyway. You can't really ban a person completely if he is dedicated to post here with his alts. A basic TOR setup would be enough probably.



Title: Re: Purchased account?
Post by: sujonali1819 on August 25, 2020, 05:00:21 PM
Thank you, but isn't creating more than one account allowed within the forum rules?
Yes, it allowed and many user have their alt accounts here. Even many most reputed users have more than one account(for example Loycev). But you have to give a neutral trust to your alt account that the account owner is you. And you can not join any bounty/campaign with the alt account.

Again you can not create alt account when your old account will be banned here. So if your old account got banned means you have no permission to alive in this forum. BTW I appreciate your honesty.


Title: Re: Purchased account?
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on August 25, 2020, 05:52:55 PM
The moderator will always decide whether to ban or not. But let's treat everyone the same. A temporary ban and a ban on signatures would be fair, wouldn't it?
And after the end of the ban, we will see whether the forum is really dear to you or not.

I applied for a ban.


Title: Re: Purchased account?
Post by: TalkStar on August 25, 2020, 07:38:22 PM
My goal was not to evade the ban, but my goal was to create a new account and start over well and differently from the previous one after I realized my previous mistakes.
Thanks for accepting your mistakes and no doubt that its quite rare to find people who don't hesitate to accept their fault. Usually people try to play hide & seek game after getting caught but you haven’t followed that way. Sorry to say that your intention of creating new account was your own choice but its not supported by forum rules.

 
If I had wanted to evade or cheat, I wouldn’t admit my mistakes in front of everyone now
Forum rules is equal for everyone and we can't blend our own thoughts with that. Its moderators turn now and they will take the step from their end.



Title: Re: Purchased account?
Post by: yhiaali3 on August 25, 2020, 08:27:58 PM
My goal was not to evade the ban, but my goal was to create a new account and start over well and differently from the previous one after I realized my previous mistakes.
Thanks for accepting your mistakes and no doubt that its quite rare to find people who don't hesitate to accept their fault. Usually people try to play hide & seek game after getting caught but you haven’t followed that way. Sorry to say that your intention of creating new account was your own choice but its not supported by forum rules.

 
If I had wanted to evade or cheat, I wouldn’t admit my mistakes in front of everyone now
Forum rules is equal for everyone and we can't blend our own thoughts with that. Its moderators turn now and they will take the step from their end.



Thank you. Yes, I told the truth and admitted my mistakes in front of everyone. Of course it was not in bad faith, but because I did not understand the forum rules well.
I said honesty, and I do not regret saying the truth, and I bear the responsibility and decision in the end to moderators the forum.


Title: Re: Purchased account?
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on August 26, 2020, 12:05:25 AM
Thank you, but isn't creating more than one account allowed within the forum rules? My goal was not to evade the ban, but my goal was to create a new account and start over well and differently from the previous one after I realized my previous mistakes.
Well, that's pretty much the textbook definition of "ban evasion". 

Let me share you thata ban of an account is a ban personally, you as a person is banned from using this forum, not your account only. There may exception if you can make mods understood your point but the chance is zero for sure.
OP, take heed of the above post (if you can understand it clearly).  When you're banned from the forum, you--the person behind any and all bitcointalk accounts--are banned, so the result is that you're not allowed to post here anymore.  Those are the rules.

The moderator will always decide whether to ban or not. But let's treat everyone the same. A temporary ban and a ban on signatures would be fair, wouldn't it?
Let's see, there was the reason for the original ban and now he's guilty of ban evasion.  If you keep giving rule breakers like this guy multiple chances, why even have the rules in the first place?


Title: Re: Purchased account?
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on August 26, 2020, 09:01:38 AM

The moderator will always decide whether to ban or not. But let's treat everyone the same. A temporary ban and a ban on signatures would be fair, wouldn't it?
Let's see, there was the reason for the original ban and now he's guilty of ban evasion.  If you keep giving rule breakers like this guy multiple chances, why even have the rules in the first place?

As you can see, I applied for a ban. The further decision will be for the moderators. I just didn’t want to be tough and suggested the softest solution. You understand that it's not for me to decide ...
Yesterday I applied for a ban for 2 more participants in the Arabic locale, there was obvious plagiarism.
What the mods will decide, we can only guess. Although I agree with you 1000 percent. The rules must be followed, otherwise, why are they needed?