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I would just like to ask you to throw off all sorts of groups( not channels) with traders, where there are discussions of trading and all this.

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I have been involved with many many groups that eventually does this and I can tell you that there is no way that people could make a lot more money than they can with these groups versus without these groups. These groups are just regular people like you and me and they have no special powers that can predict the future, they are not doing it because they know anything special, they are in fact doing it for the attention and to look like they know what they are doing so that other people could respect them and continue this ruse until finally they fail too many times in a row to be taken seriously.

So believe me, when you are not in any of these groups and just individually doing your trading without getting consulting anyone, you are actually better off if you ask me.

I just want to communicate with the threaders.

 I do have different groups that I have joined since last year. But it's a local traders. I know you just wanted to share conversations about trading in a particular group. Usually, those trading groups I've joined has something to do to promote their own business like trading signals, etc.
 
 Try to search some of your local trading group via telegram or discord. Or ask in your local board if they have a group (like in our local boards because we have discord group with trading infos), so you can join and participate in active discussions about trading.

I've been following Dudesignals chat since a few months ago. Some good stuffs but obviously it's full of trading one-liners like you can expect in any trading chat. At least it's not a paid group (for now).

Mostly they are in the telegram community, just like Binance, they had a local community where you can talk about trading but exclusively on Binance. I don't particularly interested in that group, sometimes I realized they are fooling newbie with the pump and dump coins.

But comment above was right, as long as it is free to join, that is good but the paid signal, I don't think if they are real.

I do understand your point but think about it if trader was doing really well then they wouldn't waste their time in these groups will they? When instead they could be earning a lot of money.

Therefore, it depends why you want to join these groups, if it's to meet other like minded people who are trying to understand what trading is about and which strategies might work or not then I think that's fine. However, if the reason is to get insight into their own winning strategies then, all I can say is 'Good luck with that'.  Time is valuable, and to most time is money!

I would just be very careful with what you seek, "trading groups".  I don't doubt that some of these "groups" are legitimate and are a good place to meet decent people and to learn how to trade.. but I would stay as far away as possible from any trading groups that you actually "invest" money in.  The vast majority of these groups are not legitimate and are often a good way to lose your money.  Read, study, learn about investing and do it on your own.  If the money is burning a hole in your pocket then put it in the stock or gold or something other than some shady trading group.   

It was good to have groups that are willing to give their hands and knowledge to guide you but then, we also have to remind ourselves that not all the time we just rely on them. Of course, we must have to bring ourselves and tried to be independent, we can learn a lot of things if we gonna make it alone and a thing that we can apply in the future.

You should have to be careful in participating in trading groups, not all members have of good intention, some uses this as a tool to scam people and could this be the reason why we can't give you a specific group that might fulfill your needs. It was disappointing but that is the truth.

Being a trader at your own is one of the hardest things we could do and one of the best things is to ask some hand to other people but the problem is it's too hard to find some people that will help you because nowadays there are a lot of people pretending to help you but at the end of the day will scam you.

Also, I have some circle of friends who are good at trading I'm not talking about they are professional but we have some discussion about the what are the coming trend if this will become profitable to us or not. Still, we have some mistakes but most of the time we earn with this.

Also one of my source of knowledge is the forum because there are a lot of members asking questions and giving some opinions what are the next coming move still it's your choice if you will follow them or not.

In business a lot of information is known through trading groups helps to know the latest updates. You're right it's not right to trust all kinds of channels. Telegram Group used to be very good but now its demand has come down a lot through scams. That's why you should try to follow professional trading chats which are very reliable and will not change in the case of trading signals.

Im not really that fan on joining groups when it comes to trading and picking up some analysis but pretty much aware into those groups that do exist
and if you do ask me on which one is worth to put up some time to look on then these this place would be a good place to hang out.
https://www.tradingview.com/ideas/chat/
https://www.tradingview.com/ideas/groups/
Lastly, dont get yourself hooked up too much or shall we say that you do fully rely your decisions on what they had predicted because everything will still vary or depend into you.

As a newbie, or perhaps someone interested in trading crypto currencies. You need to first know that to succeed in crypto currency trading and investment, You must learn to do it by yourself. To do this, you need to learn and understand the concepts related to trading, master the arts and offer continuous practice until you can confidently trade crypto currency tokens.

The day you begin to search for trading groups for signals, is the day you betray the blockchain ideology.

Even you join different groups in trading it is still not the basis for us to earn big in it. Because in the end, the profit will depend on our hand
and in the situation of the actual moving price in the graph. That's why I don't believe trading seminars that have an entry price or slot for it, that obviously showed a business wherein the more people who will attend is the more profit they get.

I cant give you one. Cause based on my experience with these signal they are just I dony know maybe guessing with the price market. Ive tried to follow one signal and guess what, the market moves to the opposite side of the prediction. Of course I know the risk, but as a client who wanted to see the effectivity of your signal it should at least give me a not so high good result at least. Means the signal arent really that efficient.

Anyway, try to learn trading alone instead so you wouldnt have to blame them in case you lose your money. Also no fee unlike joining there.

They are not difficult to seek out but I would suggest against it.

The groups are often filled with shitcoin shills promoting their bagholded coins for nothing and will lead you to buy them with promises that it will be the next bitcoin or so. Then there are dictator admins who will spam their own referral links while forbidding anyone else to post their referral links.

These groups are nothing but added mental stress. If you wish to trade then do it by yourself, develop your own charts and work your own TA.

But of course if you are one of those shills then my advice is useless to you. ::)

Everyone has a different perspective on trading groups, I used to be in a group like that but decided to leave because I was quite annoyed by other members who promote scam coins, promotions like this are very dangerous for newbies who could be interested and stuck on these coins, the advantage of joining a trading group we can get the latest news about crypto although still need to re-check the truth of the news.

you could tell the reason why people leave their trades groups (honestly I just want to laugh about it because all these groups are a waste of time and money).

Your thread reminded me of TradingView where there are so many people posting those charts with lots of drawings and some very optimistic analyzes and others that are analysis of apocalypse prediction for bitcoin that the person thinks: "it really will be that someone can do analysis without putting feelings and what will be the degree of correctness of the analysis ... "I ask myself this question constantly and I look for many groups of telegrams and I only see pump and dump or I see someone who bought an altcoin and keeps telling other people to buy it because they want the price to increase much

You need to continue doing your research before following those tips coming from the group, not all have the intentions to help, most are there to advertise the project that they already holding trying to make some good profits from those newcomers who are lack in knowledge in terms of market movements.

If you want to take advantage, don't stop enhancing your knowledge always do your DYOR and keep being updated from how the things are moving around the market, you'll be able to gained from this group by taking all the advise as basis and not just to follow it right away.

On teligram you can find many trading group, signal providers group. some of them charge you paid subscriptions and some are free. Some group is really interesting for latest update and news regarding crypto market.

I guess that trading group is un-moderated since is free I will assumed. And good choice to leave that group. Personally, I've just joined a local trading group so it's not for everyone. And the first sign that there is a spammer he is immediately kick out of the group.

And so I will echo the sentiments here, it's really hard to find a decent and free trading signal groups right now. All of them has some bad intentions behind, to scam specially newbies. So If I'm the OP, I won't look for one specially if you are a beginner.

Yes, a lot of them, but the sad news is that even the paid subscriptions and free are the same, both are being ran by scammers behind. So not advisable to join this groups, perhaps it's better if we go traditional, learn everything by yourself and don't rely on this so called groups to give you signal, worst you can lose big money following them, the dreaded pump-and-dump groups.

Maybe it will better to start with local groups on your country, usually each country have groups that contains a lot of type of people who involved in crypto. Like traders, bounty hunters, airdrop, or maybe who only exchange fiat into crypto. And that can be our chance to start make friends according to what we want to do in crypto.

You just have to be careful though as most time when a particular coin starts getting attention in the group due to it getting hyped by different set of group members they aren't what they present themselves to be. Shilling of particular coins has become a normal thing this days which lead many new Investors into thinking positive about the coins been shilled and will result to it getting pump which a dump usually follows.

I'm in many of this so called trading group and it's not as juicy as you presume them to be from the outside. The coins getting recommended are usually overpriced or in most cases just clear scam that great marketing is making it look legit.

Local trading group is good choice for OP, the advantage of joining the local community we can meet them face to face and also the language will be easier to understand.

For me, trading groups will only mislead many traders, especially newbies who will experience big losses by joining trading group.
I say that based on my own experience while joining several trading groups on telegram platforms. The group owner usually buys
first the coins that will be shared in the group, so when buying these coins usually coins will be dumped immediately. My advice is
better learn how to analyze the market, so you can choose coins according to your own analysis, it is much more accurate.

It is good for you, you can make a discussion to all trader in the group your analyst and even you can compare with their strategy. I just think that trading will be depend on the trader, I mean all of price movement will be caused by the trader who behind it, it mean if the trader and most trader has the same strategy then we will have a chance to gain more profit.

I have been involved with trading group when I take a decision to be a trader several months ago, with these groups I'll push myself to make more analyst as much as I can. So as when there is a member who reveal his analyst and he has a different analyst with me I'll make a discussion and surely I'll have many consideration to entry to the market. But, I don't think that it is good idea when you join with a premium signal, I myself will tend to lazy to many an analyst because I'll be depend on someone else suggestion.

i'm in two trading groups as of now on telegram: CryptoKingdomTraders and SultanCamp.
both are free, not a p&d or shill group, and they have experienced chartists who always give their ideas.
if you are into trading competition, i think CryptoKingdomTraders is for you since they often do collaboration with big exchanges and their admin sometimes give capital to trade to selected traders.

Local groups have a better impact on the marketing, no doubt about it because when people talk in their local language it becomes more closer to them and more likely to be a shill group in the end too because they are easier to manipulate in buying shitcoins. ;D

Of course that is what these groups are created to be, shill the paid for altcoin and then promote them in such groups to the brainwashed shills to make them buy it. All for profit of the advisors who are bagholding those coins.

If you ask me, stay away from trading groups. Develop your own TA, like I said above and do not trust someone else's charts to make your investments. Above all, be happy with your trading decisions.

Trading groups are to be careful, some are pump and dump, mostly the ones that do the most is based on only Alts technical analysis, and very few are those who analyze bitcoin movements and give bitcoin advice. Actually for these groups it is better to have your own arguments before reviewing them.

The thing about groups is that they think they can actually manage to make as much profit as they can using their users and that is the trouble. If you see a group that is super high in number, believe me that creator is definitely making more profits than the userbase.

I have dealt with plenty of these groups when I was working in marketing and we paid the owners to pin a lot of messages and they took the money and didn't even cared, they just sold the tokens and moved on with their way while they were throwing all those users to us, and by all accounts we could have been scammers and in many cases we were actually not a good investment, price went down, so all in all they do not care about anything but how much money they would make from something like this.

Trading groups are a great way to get updated in which tickers you should look out for. However, high number trading groups also move like a cult and can manipulate the market. You can earn through this way following their indications, however, it is not good for your individual trading skill, you will not improve relying on this group. In addiction, Only the head of the group always profit the most since they are the ones controlling how the market behaves.

Its on manipulative side and making that group as a source of income for its owners.Some might really be interested on joining up these groups yet it do become beneficial for them
but to think that there would be always someone who lost up when theres someone who do make profit.For self learning purpose or talks then this doesnt really help for you to become a
better trader unless if you dont really rely too much on the information that you do able to get from these kind of groups which are just totally speculators itself just like you.
Also, most of the time these groups do deal with low cap coins which is really very risky for you to put up some money just for you to have the ride.

There are many trading groups to join as for me it’s not reliable though some gives tips and signal on your journey in trading but it's not accurate. You also have to study the charts to conduct a trades. As what others said, it's best that you do some analysis this way it could lessen the risks by joining some groups.

Joining in some groups that have good and legit members around can help you to become a good trader in the making but if you end up participating in groups that will only steal your money, then don't bother joining anyways. Just focus on your own trading strategies and keep learning on your different trading experiences. You can still be good and profitable enough even without these groups around.

I don't think if there is still a legit group of trading that legitimate to join. All of them creating a group for their own self interest not by the entire group, even those paid signal group wont really give assurance that you will earn profit on trading, unless if you will make you own proper research regarding your trading activity or which crypto that has a potential to invest.

Trading group isn't bad to join, but don't rely and expect to them on making profit. There are also some instances that this trading group you've joined will mislead you from trading and this might the distraction of your research. Trade your own and have research your own, at least you don't have anything you blame once you have failed.

We have so many groups online which is not just about trading signal but a good conversation about the market. I suggest that you look to social media for a group specifically a group on your place. We have local Binance group, other exchange group and of course you should not depend on that and you should still know how to trade on your own, its ok to ask for questions but never to follow any trading signal because its risky.

Yes binance trading group is very good for trading the risk is lower here and it is easier to get new updated information about the market not just trading groups but exchanges are very reliable telegram group was much better at crypto. But now these are more scams not being able to give accurate information about the market is causing many traders to suffer it is also better to review different groups before doing business.

thats a lesson that its not good to depend on groups because once the group gone your left on your own and if you still dont know how to trade well you will loose and its not thier fault anymore  but how can the group of binance turned unto scam ? if that is really owned by binance they wont do that . i wonder why binance is still there in near a perfect condition if your saying was true or  maybe your talking about the other groups  . what op wants is also impossible , he cant just say throw all groups because there are tons of groups now , now that crypto trading is now a normal thing  .

I haven't try any yet joining some of the trading groups because I don't get comfortable it gives more pressure to me. Recently someone invites to my telegram its an unknown local groups and they are stating about

"Invest here"
"Invest to this coin "
"Buy now"
"Sell now"

This is not a good thing they are saying but I leave on this immediately because one of the best source of mine is the forum because this is more knowledgeable members they are one of the eldest  you can trust but you need to have a good information to identify it this is real.

   Serious475 I get a couple messages on Telegram every day! And most of them are about investments and trading signals, others
are people who beg for money because they have a huge problem, usually health problems!
   I think who wish to trade will learn by reading all the stuff that can be found on internet and applying them in trading. It takes time
and energy, it will take some money for the learning process, but it's the best way to learn how to trust your own instincts.

No one is really going to give ajy valuable information on such groups,most of the messages will be just soam content about referral or shit projects returns.We have bitcointalk whete speculation section exist which can be useful for you especially the analysis threads started by different individuals to post their own analysis but don't take it as a reference for your trading just use it to get the idea and learn it by yourself only.

Right now, I don't try to join in the telegram channel or other group because I don't think that I have much time to discuss with them or share what I have. I prefer to analyze by myself while I can search for other people. Besides that, I already have some friends in my group that I knew from a long time ago, and we always give interesting news or some info that we have. From that, I can gather more information that will useful to my analysis. But if you want to join in the telegram group, you need to be careful because there are so many scammers searching for the new target that they can steal the money.

This is the reason why I don't want to open my telegram because it consists some of the groups I really didn't join but I'm a member of it and its really annoying and also some of the member right there are beginners and the common question "How can I earn with this coin","I want to earn but I don't have any knowledge regarding with this...","I want to become a professional on this field someone helps me.".This is the problem of the people right now they become dependent on the group they have and this is not a good thing instead this is a toxic culture of the newbies would like to reach a million dollar immediately by just investing a small amount. Why not start right here on our forum there are a lot of ideas right here but the problem is we are preventing having a spam threads. The only group that I've join right here on our forum is the discord I don't think so they have a group related on trading.

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How about this, for each project you intend engaging with either through investing or trading you're better off joining their trading group directly (that's getting the link from their main group) than joining any group out there as these days all the supposenly trading groups out there are just pump and dump groups and in the case when that isn't noticed then you'll see all kind of shilling ongoing. From those creating fud by spreading fake news or those trying to decieve people on how great the project is by spreading fake positive news for FOMO.

But if you join the trading group for eacg project, sure you'll still see some shilling ongoing but it'll be reduced compared to the general groups for trading. And since you must have been familiarize with the project itself you'll easily identify fake information when you come across them.

If you want to discuss trading, you should not join a trading group. I have tried several times to join various trading groups,
I even joined a premium trading group that had to pay dues. None of these groups provide benefits, it only shares inaccurate
signals or promotes scam projects. If you want to discuss trading and learn about trading, you can have a discussion in this forum.
I also get a lot of information related to trading on this forum. Or you try to take a trading course, it is much more useful.