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Bounty hunter, join PayAccept new bounty telegram https://t.me/PAYOfficialBounty and read the pin message.

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This is the last week of PayAccept bounty campaign.
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This is the message from Bounty manager.
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This news was shared on their social media Aug 20.
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After a huge success on IEO, they don't want to pay bounty hunters as well as Bounty manager. What kind of mentality is it? Is their any solution of this?

Bounty thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5255787.0

That's not new for bounties.

Whoever is the owner of that project doesn't respect the efforts and time by the manager and as well as the bounty participants that helped them gain exposure through the forum and social media if they have a dedicated bounty on those platforms.

Opening a scam accusation will help you to get help from the forum members, it is obvious fact CEOs convince the bounty managers to launch the bounty campaigns without escrow, and such worst cases happen. I doubt the bad news will not prevent the investors to invest more and the bad reputation will affect them in exchange listing too. Bounty participants should demand their rights ASAP.

What it can be other than exit scam! :-[

Sometimes these kind of scams cannot be ignored, if we want then we have to completely stop the bounty related activities.

All we can do now is to damage the reputation of that project but they already raised the money so there is nothing to lose on their side.

Is is true? I know that they are legit project and the owner owns the next exchange. Anyway I will investigate on this one to know the details.

Damaging their reputation wouldnt solve any issues at all. What is better is to talk with them and clear the matters. I just read some few details like there is a marketing that has been cheated or made a mistake that result to trust issues. Anyway I will be certain on the details about them and update everyone on this case.

After reading the conversation posted in the bounty thread it looks like the CEO have no intentions of paying the bounty. 

Anyway they're only harming the reputation of their project by prolonging the payments even further. I agree it's better to negotiate if they couldn't pay the entire reward but the damage is already done with how the CEO handled the situation in a bad way instead of opening up on what really happened with the sales of the project.

Looks like a classic "hey someone cheated, so we're lazy to check further and not gonna pay everyone" tactic. Sorry for anyone involved, but I don't see any good ending in this case.

Hi mate, Ive seen the announcement of their CEO they will pay the bounty participants.

This message was pinned on their bounty group.


So I guess they will pay and check all submitted response from the participants. Dont know about the schedule. But the tension is likely lowered now.

Why they are not ready to announce this on their Bounty thread or in any other sections of bitcointalk?

Why people have to keep wearing if the bounties are completed,its their responsibility to complete the posts counts ASAP! And I don't really trust their promises because bounty manager himself warned about their shady activity.

I feel sad for the bounty hunters who give thier best,effort  and hardwork to advertise the project but in the end they wont get anything. This is one of the saddest thing that will happen when you join a bounty.

Exactly, call me a paranoid if you want but there is a certain percent this is just a rush to delay or don't want to pay. Thank god I almost consider to join in their bounty campaign. This is why we're serious in need trusted bounty managers.

I can't find any pin message in their bounty group. Maybe it was but not now. Admins have restricted all bounty hunters from sending messages in the bounty group. Also all admins left PayAccept bounty group.
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Hello as I investigated the case, its look like that the ceo and their bounty manager has some sort of negative negotiation resulting to this. Im not sure but the conflict lies between them, so when I check on the telegram where it was announced. I saw only few members so I think some hunters are not aware of it. So I posted the link here so they can be notify.

Thats because the ceo created a new telegram for bounty official. Check the link of my quoted part. Thats the group of the new bounty. The previous one probably is handled by the BM but due to conflict of course they are not in good terms to discuss that on the first bounty group.

Thank you for your investigation. I changed my topic title.

Maybe you will be wrong in upcoming days. Do you think that they have so much time to look for bounty hunters all works. No. They are doing this because bounty hunters can not bothering their official telegram group. Investors doesn't worry 4 that. That is the reason they created fake telegram group so that bounty hunters can wasted time on this group. So obviously it is a huge scam project for hunters and let's see what it brings  for investors. Maybe I m wrong if they paid bounty hunters than you will receive small portion of it. Hope that it is not a scam project & they will pay full money to the bounty hunters. Thanks.

Hello Im not sure if they are planning to rug the payment its not my call anymore. I just shared here the information I knew to prevent the fud on bounty payment issue. Of course I care cause Ive participated on their blog campaign and also looking forward to get paid by them.

Regarding the bounty budget lets just hope that they consider the rate and not just because there is something wrong.

This is not a scam project. You can see listing on many exchanges soon. They will pay but the full payment Im not sure about that.

I am not blaming you for anything! Its just the question to the admin of the project why they are not ready to announce this on their ANN section.

Don't keep your hope on the project which are postponing the rewards with no perfect time frame is what I learned from the mistakes of bounty hunters.

All you can is contact both of bounty manager with PayAccept and waiting. Or creating scam accusations if you think this is scam.

That's the risk become a bounty hunter, if you don't want to take the risk... just ignore bounty section and don't join it.

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Anyway the bounty manager (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=388927) is online for 4 days after this thread created, but he doesn't reply anything here ::)

from the way i see things the ceo is very kin on settling the payment of bounty hunters because he knows what is at stake, the reason why they create a new bounty group since the bm have lock up the old one, honestly i think the bm handle the matter very immature,
already he was not very active in the spreadsheet update, (the reason why i didn't join the campaign) he was busy doing the work of the team instead of concentrating on the work he was employed for, at some point i thought the bm is part of the payaccept team not knowing he is a hired bm to handle bounty case but he couldn't do that,
at least the team are working towards resolving the issue so there is no need for scam accusation, not yet.

If this is true then I advice the project admin to create a thread regarding BM's action on Reputation section so community members can give the right solution to end the problem but it will be possible only if the admin is ready to pay the hunters.

I didnt expecting though even I submitted my content on their campaign. As I visited their telegram now they are closing in the forms for reporting the needed details for receiving funds. That was fast indeed. Now wait for the real distribution.

Not a good option to do. For me let them settle first their own issue. Both parties will only cut the chase and keep babbling on one another. But who knows the right aide of the story? The only crucial here is the hunters who promoted are the one being pinned. I think the project admin hired the BM to do all forum related so thats why they cant do on their own.

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What made you think this will go any other way? :D

It is not up to me to make such suggestions, mine was a personal observation on the behavior of the bm, it is let for the team and perhaps the bounty participants to take further steps if they see it necessary, but in my opinion there is no need for such drastic measures, besides this is not the first we have seen a bm behave like this, if the team sees it necessary then they should take those steps.

If admin is having issues with the bounty manager and still want to pay the hunters then they should approach to the community or else they will keep blaming each other and nothing is going to change.Project admin just hired BM but doesn't mean they can't do anything if BM is not going with their terms.

With these things alone then you can already presume out on where it would be heading but who knows that even if everything is almost been copied they do still able to pay but the big question is

would they succeed and do get some marketshare nor do get some support from the community? It all vary with relevance which i dont see for this project to have one.


BM cant do anything yet they wont really receive the pay together with the bounty hunters if the project admins or owners itself did really intend not to pay on the first place.

They can give out fake stats or sales infos just to hook up possible investors and when the truth comes in where they havent almost no-sale at all then they neither be lying or not

for that kind of reason on why they arent paying but overall this kind of situation is pretty common on todays project bounty hunting program where there are ones which

doesnt really get their pay in spite of their hardwork for advertising.

If that's the actual thing that happened. It's hard to judge depending on my basis comparing it with other projects. But if the fault is really at the developers, the manager can't pay the hunters. So, there's always two side of the story.

But the bottom line is that participants, didn't received their stakes/payments which they should receive.

They did approached the hunters only on the telegram. I think they announced the process by filling up the forms. I guess everyone should follow this, since joining on the telegram is required on the bounty requirements. Now I see that the form is closed and strictly being imposed on the new telegram. Hunters should pay attention since there are quick decision happening sometime.

I dont know about the case of the BM but he should be paid even his work isnt expected by the owner. But of course this doesnt mean hunters would not get paid. I followed their instruction as per their form. Filled up and waiting for next announcement. If they would not pay it, of course that comes the issue. But a project tied up with huge projects with digibyte, ferrum and confirmed listed on mid tier exchanges will not run away from this unless they wanted their reputation shattered in pieces.

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Anyway, will update you guys here. Its still on process whether they will actually run or pay so better to stick for those who joined. What I dont like is their way of closing early the form for receiving payment since some hunters( who dont pay attention on social group) are left hanging and shocked ops its closed.

After BM managers locked the thread PayAccept CEO created the bounty group and they posted a google form. where they asked for the work link. Thought the form was closed on Friday. They gave notice that signature stakes will be announced within two days and social media sheets will be updated within two weeks. We can't do anything just need to watch, they are going to pay the hunters or not.

Well, they will probably harden the rules, and reduce the bounty pool.
That's how they usually do it. And they'll find any and all reason to disqualify a hunter

This isnt good cause cheaters can use the work link of some participants and use them to get the reward. The action that they made will only produce misunderstanding on the part of the hunters.

With lots of participants missed the timeline, I guess that youre right. They will probably reduced the budget since most werent able to do the form. Thats what dissapointing on such scenario. They dont have a convincing arguement but this should have been noted by the participants especially there are projects who will really take advantage on such act.

This is possible, but we should wait and check whether they have accurate checking of the result.

I dont think they will distribute rewards at all. And you are right about finding a reason do disqualify.

First they made a very inconvenient google form to place all social media links for 12 weeks. Hunters must manually place all link to separate line. I'm sure someone will make mistakes, did not post something or post with error - that one reason to reduce number of stakes or participants. Why even do it, when hunters simply can send links to reports?

Second - on the telegram they said "not all bounty hunters joined PayAccept official telegram channel", which is a great reason to disqualify a hunter. Of course, those who is interested in a project will definitely join official telegram channel and will follow news on the page. But in the rules it was not mentioned that joining is a must.

Third - they are checking end rechecking everything manually. As I understand, this work is managed by someone who has no experience in bounty management. I'm not sure that he will do this work perfectly.

why they do that if they arent going to pay ? its like they only waste time and some effort  . they can disqualify because they wana make sure that they are only paying for the real workers and to those who do the job fairly and  maybe its right that they decrease the payments

  but that was still okay if ever im one of the participant that are going to get paid  because atleast i know that my efforts on the past are worthy .

I still think they will distribute the reward to bounty hunters. And even if they don't distribute the reward, bounty hunters have no way of disobeying their rules. A few days ago, they posted a news in their telegram that 450 people have joined their telegram but 700 people have filled up the form. So they will manually check all the applications and eliminate the scammers.

That what I was talking about. Now (as I think) they are manually and slowly checking all the reports. Maybe someone will initially leave official telegram channel and that will be the reason to remove that person from distribution like.

They are already complaining that people did not join PayAccept telegram channel, while in there rules no one asked to do it. We dont know how they gonna use that information. Remove everyone who did not join, or simply warn them. Spreadsheet is not available still.

They can change the rules and distribute all the rewards to their dashboard, instead of eth address. Or ask to pass KYC. Nobody knows what is in new BM's head.

Stop saying what you have zero knowledge about, who says the hunters won't get paid! Maybe you should visit the new Telegram bounty group and see what actions has been taken towards ensuring that hunters get their payment fairly, I agree the bounty was not the smoothest bounty but there is hope that hunters who submit their work using the Google sheet provided by the team will get their reward eventually, the only thing I can see left is for the final spreedsheet to be out for payment.

So what exactly from your point of view does PayAccept made to ensure "that hunters get their payment fairly" ? So far it is "just wait till we check and recheck everything and wait for announcement". Creating a google form for hunters to post their campaign results does not insure that they will be paid. Those who wore signature are in worst position so far, bounty ended 10 days ago, but they still need to wear signatures.