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Title: ☆ DE Altcoin Chat ☆
Post by: dewdeded on March 23, 2014, 11:12:37 AM
Hier ein allgemeiner, deutscher Altcoin Talk-Thread - mancher würde sagen Plauder-Thread - rund um Altcoins, die deutsche und internationale Altcoin-Szene, sehr altcoin-nahe Bitcoin-Themen, relevante Links & Co.

Regeln:

- on-topic bleiben (og. Themen), also alles rund um BTC und was sonst so im alten Kursthread besprochen wurde, dh. keine Gespräche über Kinofilme, Konzerte, neue Spielkonsolen usw.

- keine Privatgespräche

- es gelten alle allgemeinen Boardregeln, sowie alle Regeln die BitLex und phantastisch noch ergänzen

- bei Links immer wenigstens den Titel der Seite angeben/nennen, soweit möglich und noch besser wäre immer ihr schriebt kurz was zum Inhalt (kopiert zb. den Teaser-Text von Nachrichten) und falls nicht aufderhandliegend ergänzt bitte, warum etwas (der Link) interessant ist, bei Links zu technischen Abhandlungen oder neuen Analysen/Einschätzungen von Experten oder ähnliches

- zusätzlich: wenn ihr Links zu Videos postet, bitte nennt immer gleich die Stellen wo es interessant wird (alá "startet bei 3:05 mins")

- wenn ihr Links zu Nachrichtenartikeln postet, versucht diese gleich zu kommentieren und einzuordnen soweit sinnvoll (um neuen relevanten Content zu schaffen)

- Kurz-URL-Dienste zur URL-Verschleierung sind verboten (aus Sicherheitsgründen)

- auf saubere Rechtschreibung, freundlichen Umgangston ist zu achten, keine Beleidigungen


Viel Spass!


Title: Re: ☆ DE Altcoin Chat ☆
Post by: dewdeded on March 24, 2014, 07:53:15 AM
Darkcoin hat Potential:

klare Innovationen (Privacy, Security) + 11 verschiedene Hashing-Algos (was Asic realitischerweise unmögich macht) + aktive Community & Devs + riesige Möglichkeiten (neue Darknet-Currency, statt BTC).


Ich denke, ich streich meiner Ehefrau heute das Mittagessen und kauf mir von dem Geld etwas DRK.


Title: Re: ☆ DE Altcoin Chat ☆
Post by: dewdeded on March 24, 2014, 05:58:48 PM
Kann jemand was zu Blackcoin schreiben? Meinungen?


Title: Re: ☆ DE Altcoin Chat ☆
Post by: dewdeded on March 25, 2014, 01:11:06 PM
Präsentation

Hard Problems in Cryptocurrency
Vires in Numeris

- Vitalik Buterin, March 21, 2014 -

http://vitalik.ca/files/problems.pdf


Title: Re: ☆ DE Altcoin Chat ☆
Post by: randombit on March 25, 2014, 03:03:04 PM
Wollt mal Hallo sagen damit du dir nicht so alleine hier vorkommst dewdeded   ;D  ;D ,


Also zum Blackcoin kann ich nicht viel sagen,  aber mir ist aufgefallen das der Vertcoin im Vergleich zu allen anderen älteren Altcoins überdurchschnitlich performed hat obwohl der BTC Preis stetig nach unten geht (für mich jedoch nur ne Atempause bevor der große run startet) .   Der stabile Preisverlauf bei Vertcoin könnte ein Indiz sein für eine Preisexplosion welche beim Anstieg des BTC Preises entfacht wird.

Hier der MonatsChart auf Cryptsy

https://www.cryptsy.com/markets/view/151


Warum sich Vertcoin aber so gut schlägt ist mir noch ein Rätsel.


Aber wenn wir schonmal dabei sind, wir könnten ja darüber spekulieren welche der Altcoins evtl. in New York in Zukunft gehandelt werden. (Evtl. sogar in diesem Jahr??  :) )

Folgende sehe ich aufjedenfall in den regulieren Exchanges:

Kathegorie 1.

 -   Bitcoin    ( ist klar  ;D )
 -   Litecoin    ( dürfte auch fesstehen)
 -   Peercoin  ( für mich mitlerweile zu Bronze mutiert  ;D )


Mögliche weitere Kandidaten

Kathegorie 2.

 - Ripple
 - Bitshares/Protoshares

Folgende Kandidaten haben Potenzial aber der Markt dürfte sehr skeptisch sein zu beginn

Kathegorie 3.

 - Dogecoin
 - Nxt
 - Namecoin

Hochspekulativ aber evtl. sehr interessant für den Markt

Kathegorie 4.

 - Megacoin
 - Vertcoin
 - Copperlark
 - Terracoin

In 'Kathegorie 4 bin ich in keinem der Coins investiert, aber jedesmal wenn ich diese Coins sehe auf CCM (CoinCapMarket) stechen sie mir ins Auge, mein Bauchgefühl sagt mir da ist was im Busch  ;D , echt eigenartig


Title: Re: ☆ DE Altcoin Chat ☆
Post by: LordShanken on March 25, 2014, 03:10:56 PM

Warum sich Vertcoin aber so gut schlägt ist mir noch ein Rätsel.


Kein Premine, GPU-Miner von Anfang an zugänglich (und nicht nur den Devs vorbehalten), vorläufig keine Asics.  Die GPUs suchen sich einen neuen Coin, da Scrypt-Coins nicht mehr wirklich profitabel sind. In einem Post vor ein paar Wochen habe ich schon gesagt, dass Vertcoin ein heißes Eisen ist, wenn die Scrypt-ASICs kommen.





Title: Re: ☆ DE Altcoin Chat ☆
Post by: randombit on March 25, 2014, 03:19:05 PM
Danke für deine sehr friedfertige Antwort  LordShanken  ))   ;D    Scherz nicht gleich an die Decke gehen ja?))

Kannst du einen ungefähren Zeitraum nennen? wann die Scryptasics ihre Arbeit aufnehmen?  und hast du ne Einschätzung zum Kursverfall (verlauf  ;D ) ? wieviel Prozent wird es deiner Meinung nach nach unten gehen?

Die Nachricht sollte doch bereits im Kurs enthalten sein oder? dennoch hällt sich Vert recht gut.



Title: Re: ☆ DE Altcoin Chat ☆
Post by: pas1991fan on March 25, 2014, 04:48:11 PM
Wieso Preisverfall? Wenn die Scrypt Asics kommen sollte doch der Kurs noch höher steigen...
Da sich die GPU Miner darauf stürzen...
Oder sehe ich das falsch?


Title: Re: ☆ DE Altcoin Chat ☆
Post by: randombit on March 25, 2014, 04:58:20 PM
Steigt durch die Asics nicht das Angebot??

Oder habe ich jetzt einen Denkfehler?


Title: Re: ☆ DE Altcoin Chat ☆
Post by: dewdeded on March 25, 2014, 05:01:43 PM
Generell kann das Angebot nicht steigen, weil die Block Rewards sind ja fest definiert.

Du kannst jetzt nur noch überlegen: wer kurz- und mittelfristig prozentual mehr dumped. Der Datacenter-Inhaber (der mit jedem Diff-Anstieg Marktanteile gewinnt) oder der kleine, private (Ex-)Miner der aus dem Mining-Markt gedrängt wird.

Geschmacksfrage, ob das überhaupt das Angebot auf den Exchanges beeinflusst und wenn ja wieviel.


Title: Re: ☆ DE Altcoin Chat ☆
Post by: randombit on March 25, 2014, 05:28:01 PM
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Generell kann das Angebot nicht steigen, weil die Block Rewards sind ja fest definiert.

Das ist klar soweit, aber wenn ich weniger Leute habe die mehr minen sind die Abschläge größer die in den Markt von den wenigen plaziert werden.     Also in diesem Fall der Datacenter Inhaber der ja seine Kosten decken muss.

me Konfused  ???
 


Title: Re: ☆ DE Altcoin Chat ☆
Post by: LordShanken on March 25, 2014, 05:50:21 PM
Danke für deine sehr friedfertige Antwort  LordShanken  ))   ;D    Scherz nicht gleich an die Decke gehen ja?))

Kannst du einen ungefähren Zeitraum nennen? wann die Scryptasics ihre Arbeit aufnehmen?  und hast du ne Einschätzung zum Kursverfall (verlauf  ;D ) ? wieviel Prozent wird es deiner Meinung nach nach unten gehen?

Die Nachricht sollte doch bereits im Kurs enthalten sein oder? dennoch hällt sich Vert recht gut.



Heißes Eisen war in dem Fall positiv gemeint... GPU bilden immer noch die große Masse an Minern. Die wenigsten haben ASICs und viele, die bis heute keine gekauft haben, werden das auch in Zukunft nicht machen. Ein Coin braucht Unterstützung durch Miner - und zwar nicht durch reine Hashleistung, sondern durch eine möglichst große Anzahl. Miner sind der entscheidende Faktor, aber von denen hörst du halt im Forum nichts. Dort geben die Träumer und Marktschreier den Ton, die dir erzählen wollen wie toll Coin X und Coin Y ist, weil sie selbst die Taschen davon voll haben. Meine langfristigen Prognosen sind eigentlich bekannt. Die kommen hier aber nicht so gut an...


Title: Re: ☆ DE Altcoin Chat ☆
Post by: randombit on March 25, 2014, 06:25:30 PM
Liegt vielleicht an dem Verkäufer der sich kurz vor dem Verkauf nochmal ins Fäustschen lacht ?   ;)  ;D

Und ja, ich habe heißes Eisen in diesem Zusammenhang wohl falsch interpretiert ).


Title: Re: ☆ DE Altcoin Chat ☆
Post by: dewdeded on March 25, 2014, 07:36:40 PM
Wisst ihr was die Steigerung von Nation Coins ist? City Coins

Kann man mit Sicherheit von ausgehen, dass bald sowas kommt wie:

"New York Coin", "LondonCoin", "BerlinCoin", ...

Ich frag mich nur, was kommt nach City Coins? Heheh.


Title: Re: ☆ DE Altcoin Chat ☆
Post by: randombit on March 26, 2014, 01:16:45 PM
Ich sag dir was kommt

der Brooklyn Coin, Brixton Coin, Tempelhof oder Marzahn Coin    ;D ;D


Title: Re: ☆ DE Altcoin Chat ☆
Post by: dewdeded on March 26, 2014, 01:24:02 PM
Und ist mit Kreuzberg? :)


Title: Re: ☆ DE Altcoin Chat ☆
Post by: randombit on March 26, 2014, 01:26:20 PM
Die haben den Bitcoin   ;D   das reicht den erstmal ))


Title: Re: ☆ DE Altcoin Chat ☆
Post by: blizzen on March 26, 2014, 01:31:53 PM
Fischkopf, Badenser, Saxonian, Swabian,
allgemein Markencoins (rechtlich vermutlich bedenklich)
Fußballclubs, Baseball, Basketball, etc.
halt alles, wo ne Menge fanatische Leute dahintersteckt
und erst mal dabei sein will


Title: Re: ☆ DE Altcoin Chat ☆
Post by: dewdeded on March 27, 2014, 08:09:11 AM
Sexcoin Top 100 Rich List

http://sxcexplorer.com/static/richlist.html

Na ist das fair oder ist das fair? :-)




Title: Re: ☆ DE Altcoin Chat ☆
Post by: dewdeded on March 28, 2014, 01:09:04 PM
The coming demise of the altcoins
(and what you can do to hasten it)

http://themisescircle.org/blog/2014/03/14/the-coming-demise-of-the-altcoins/

Innovation Is Overrated

http://cryptofrenzy.wordpress.com/2014/03/26/innovation-is-overrated/


Title: Re: ☆ DE Altcoin Chat ☆
Post by: dewdeded on March 28, 2014, 05:05:17 PM
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Hello, my name is DogeyMcDoge, I worked support for Cryptorush.in.

Have you ever heard of the trolly/train dilemma?

The general form of the problem is this: There is a runaway trolley barreling down the railway tracks. Ahead, on the tracks, there are five people tied up and unable to move. The trolley is headed straight for them. You are standing some distance off in the train yard, next to a lever. If you pull this lever, the trolley will switch to a different set of tracks. Unfortunately, you notice that there is one person on the side track. You do not have the ability to operate the lever in a way that would cause the trolley to derail without loss of life (for example, holding the lever in an intermediate position so that the trolley goes between the two sets of tracks, or pulling the lever after the front wheels pass the switch, but before the rear wheels do). You have two options: (1) Do nothing, and the trolley kills the five people on the main track. (2) Pull the lever, diverting the trolley onto the side track where it will kill one person. Which is the correct choice?

I write this today because I am pulling the second lever. I am releasing info regarding CryptoRush's Insolvency.

My hands shake as I write this. These past two weeks have been hell for me. I have not been sleeping well. I get gut wrenching pains anytime I think about this. It's time to put it to rest.

I started working for CryptoRush in late Febraury. I was excited and intrigued by crypto, and upon finding this new exchange I joined their channel. LinkandZelda was looking for a support. I volunteered, and offered help to the users in the channel for a few days without even having access to the tools to the admin site. I was hired a few days later, and was put to work. I was to be paid a flat amount of BTC weekly, and upon getting past the learning curve of CryptoRush's backend, I was well along answering tickets. The owners became like friends to me. As the workload got harder as time went on, we began getting too many tickets for me to handle alone. We hired another support. Around the 11th of March, I received a message from Devianttwo: "had something bad happen. all I'm saying." I was brought into a Skype call and told that we had been hacked. I was shocked. They told me the amount, and I did not sleep well that night.

For some reason my brain stuck 30 BTC lost in my head. Upon consulting LinkandZelda I was informed of the losses again. ~950 BTC and ~2500 LTC. Gone. Someone with an IP from Ukraine. They were looking into it, thought they found the guy. Thought they could get the BTC back. Maybe it was shock. Maybe it was just me being naive. But I believed them.

I was informed of the plan to announce CryptoRushShares, a currency that would pay % fees to holders. And the kicker? Fyrstikken would announce 60% ownership of them. But in the back room?

[3/14/2014 10:48:15 PM]
":basically
 : he's helping me gain capital back from share buyers
 : he started by announcing 60% shareholding
 : but he actually owns only 10%"

I never got a clear answer as to whether we received any money from him, or were just using his internet "fame" for advertising. I put it out of my mind, this could help save us right?

The next couple weeks seemed to fly by.

And so time goes on, and things look OK at first. But then the BTC wallet runs out. Alex123 and fraggyb did not know of our insolvency. Daemon problems we were told was the answer.

The guilt was starting to build up inside of me. I answered very few tickets the week of the 16th. I was conflicted, but I worked at my full time job >40 hours that week, so it kept my mind off of things a little. The issues continued. I kept suggesting ways we could maybe get some BTC back, arbitrage, etc. We didn't even have enough funds for that. I wanted so bad for the exchange to stay afloat, thinking "Maybe tomorrow will bring us back our volume!" But alas, the problems with Zeit, and BTC withdrawals killed our volume. There was no coming back.

We saw some volume on Blackcoin, until the blockchain freeze. I stayed up as late as I could, but saw no update. I woke up the next morning, to panic. People were placing ridiculous buy orders in the market. I had just the night before been given permissions to access functions such as enabling/disabling markets, or putting a coin in maintenance mode. I quickly assessed what I could, and closed the markets, canceled the orders, and put the wallet in maintenance mode. I called Devianttwo on the phone # I was give for emergencies only, and he told me he was not going to be able to fix it at the moment. This was at 10:30AM EST on the 24th. I went to work, already late from the mess I had to help resolve.

Upon returning home I learned that my worst fears were true. Blackcoin Daemon was empty besides ~53 coins. The same bug that affected Zeitcoin I assume.

I was broken. Everything was falling apart. I tried to talk to Link into closing the site, but he keeps resisting it. It was futile.

Then Fyrstikken exploded on rat4. Chat logs were flying. I tried to contain the FUD but it was useless. Fyrstikken had done his damage. Devianttwo couldn't keep a good PR face on for more than 3 minutes.

I confided in my best friend and roommate all that I knew, and he said that I knew what I had to do. And I did know. And so here it is. I feel so bad writing this, Link has become a friend to me. But I cannot let the community suffer anymore with this exchange.

So to everyone at CryptoRush  I am sorry. To all the users who have, or will lose funds here, I am sorry. I don't think you can understand how heavy this whole situation weighs on my heart.

There is a lot of money in crypto, and Fyrstikken is an angry guy. I don't know if I should fear for my safety or not.

But what Snowden did was right, and what I am doing is right.

My sincerest regrets,

DogeyMcDoge.

http://imgur.com/sfhgQgV

Quelle: http://pastebin.com/eLkPxLWi


Title: Re: ☆ DE Altcoin Chat ☆
Post by: randombit on March 29, 2014, 01:49:04 AM
Naja ich habe glücklicherweise niX bei cryptorush liegen lassen,

deshalb tangiert mich das peripher,

dennoch ist es insgesammt negativ für die Crypto Börse und den Handel insgesamt jede Woche von ner Exchange zu hören die "hacked" wurde  ::) .  Wenn Cryptsy und / oder BTer auch noch dicht machen wars das dann meiner Meinung.

Wie ist das eigentlich mit BTEr ? wenn China den Handel voll verbieten will wäre ja BTer auch betroffen.

Hoffe das die China Story langsam ein Ende findet, auch wenn China jetzt voerst verschwindet, die werden in einigen Jahren sicher wiederkommen. Man kann sich so einer Technology nicht ganz verwehren.


Title: Re: ☆ DE Altcoin Chat ☆
Post by: randombit on March 29, 2014, 02:02:58 AM
So jetzt mal zu einem Altcoin,

ich habe Vertcoin die Tage genauer angeschaut, trotz der negativen Handelstage hat sich Vertcoin ganz gut gehalten im Vergleich zu allen anderen.

Vor einer Woche noch stand Vert auf Platz 24 im Marketcap Ranking, gestern auf 18 und heute bereits auf 16. Liegt natürlich auch daran das der Cap bei anderen gesunken ist, ist klar,  nichts desto trotz, auch das Handelsvolumen ist stark.

Ich bin jetzt in Vert investiert und schaue mir an wie es mit diesem Coin weitergeht. Vertcoin ist nicht einfach zu minen und hat im Verhältnis zu anderen Coins einen relativ niedrige Gesamtanzahl max. 84 Mios die gemint werden können, wobei gerade einmal derzeit nur 3 Mio gemint wurden.

@Amigaman,  denke mitlweile auch das ist ein ganz heißes Eisen und einer der wenigen Altcoins die ich noch als investitionsfähig sehe.


Title: Re: ☆ DE Altcoin Chat ☆
Post by: dewdeded on April 11, 2014, 01:59:47 AM
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Adam Back: Sidechains Can Replace Altcoins and ‘Bitcoin 2.0′ Platforms

Kyle Torpey  10/04/2014  

Bitcoin Sidechains
Bitcoin sidechains could be used to replace that hundreds of altcoins and “Bitcoin 2.0″ platforms that have popped up over the past few years.
It’s no secret that I’m not the biggest fan of altcoins, and I’ll try to hold back my excitement about this new project from Adam Back, the creator of Bitcoin’s proof-of-work system, and Austin Hill that could be the perfect way to finally achieve “Bitcoin 2.0“. There are plenty of projects out there today, such as Mastercoin, Counterparty, BitShares, and others who are trying to create the second generation of cryptocurrencies, but these two gentlemen seem to believe that there’s no reason to create a new altcoin when we already have Bitcoin. While there are a few other niche coins that have gained value due to some pretty cool added features, none of them can take down the main value proposition of Bitcoin, which is its network effect. Altcoins have been an amazing area of innovation for cryptocurrency over the past few years, but it makes sense to combine all of these new features into one ecosystem instead of creating a situation where you have to buy a new coin if you want to use a certain feature. For example, you shouldn’t need to use Mastercoin if you want to use a distributed asset exchange, and you shouldn’t need to switch over to Zerocoin if you want some extra anonymity in your transactions. This latest concept of Bitcoin 2.0 would keep all of these new features inside the Bitcoin network through the use of sidechains.

More Innovation, Less Altcoins
With this new system of sidechains, innovation would be able to take place on the Bitcoin network without having to worry about the entire system collapsing. One of the main reasons that there aren’t more features added to Bitcoin on a regular basis is that introducing one new bug could take down the entire $6 billion market. Sidechains allow innovation to take place in the Bitcoin network without putting the entire system at risk. If something goes wrong on one of the sidechains, only the bitcoins in that sidechain are lost, and the entire Bitcoin network can continue to flourish.

Altcoins have actually been quite suitable for testing new innovations in the cryptocurrency space, but the main issue with these new cryptocoins is that they break up the overall network effect of this new technology. You shouldn’t have to buy into a new altcoin just because you want faster confirmation times or the ability to use some new, unique smart contracts. It’s possible to bring all of these features to Bitcoin by using a two-way peg system. This means you could move your bitcoins from the original blockchain to a new sidechain in order to gain the added features of that sidechain without having to switch into a completely new currency. For example, you may have your savings in cold storage on the original Bitcoin blockchain, but it could make sense to pay for your morning coffee on a sidechain that focuses on enabling microtransactions. Bitcoins retain their original value on each one of the sidechains, and this system also preserves the idea of having a hard limit on 21 million bitcoins that can be sent through all of the different sidechains rather than inflating the total number of cryptocoins with each new feature.

The Real Bitcoin 2.0?
I’ve been following the Bitcoin 2.0 space for quite some time, and the projects that usually get me more excited than anything else are the ones that are coin agonstic. This is why Colored Coins and Open Transactions have been two of my favorite new platforms in this space. The main issue with other types of projects is that users will have to buy into a new cryptocurrency to use some of the new features involved in those platforms. For example, you need to purchase XCP if you wish to issue assets or place financial bets on the Counterparty platform. The main issue here is that the bitcoin is the cryptocurrency with the largest network effect and most liquidity. This means it also comes with the most stable price. When it comes to using new features in the cryptocurrency space, people will still want to use the currency that comes with the least amount of volatility. There is no point in trying to do contracts for difference or microtransactions in a currency that is much more volatile than the bitcoin. Due to the fact that this project is coin agnostic and is being put together by Adam Back, Austin Hill, and a number of different Bitcoin core developers, I have to think that we are finally looking at the project that deserves the title of “Bitcoin 2.0″.

Make sure to listen to Adam B. Levine’s full interview with Adam Back and Austin Hill from episode 99 of Let’s Talk Bitcoin. You can also find a breakdown of some of the main points made in the interview from Tim Swanson’s blog.
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Quelle: http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/news/adam-back-sidechains-can-replace-altcoins-bitcoin-2-0-platforms/2014/04/10


Title: Re: ☆ DE Altcoin Chat ☆
Post by: TwinWinNerD on April 11, 2014, 04:42:29 PM
Falls jemand nen Spekulations Instrument sucht: NAScoin ;)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=523187.0


Title: Re: ☆ DE Altcoin Chat ☆
Post by: burning94 on April 18, 2014, 02:51:19 PM
Falls jemand nen Spekulations Instrument sucht: NAScoin ;)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=523187.0

Auf NAS bitte nur spekulieren, wenn man Geld verlieren möchte. Der Trend ist bereits nach den ersten Pump& Dumps nach unten gerichtet.
Heißt also Ausverkauf an dumme Newbies, die glauben mit dem Coin durchstarten zu können, wobei andere bereits das große Geld abgesahnt haben.
Pump&Dump in seiner klassischsten Form also.

Wenn ihrs wie die großen Absahner machen wollt, dann müsst ihr einen Coin kaufen, der taufrisch ist!
Nebenbei gibt es noch Coins bei denen ein Langzeitinvestment möglich ist.

Mein heißer Tip für ein Langzeitinvestment ist NEM.

Einfach meinen letzten Beitrag dazu durchlesen.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=554328.msg6282011#msg6282011



Title: Re: ☆ DE Altcoin Chat ☆
Post by: danielsamba on April 22, 2014, 11:36:25 PM
Falls jemand nen Spekulations Instrument sucht: NAScoin ;)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=523187.0

Auf NAS bitte nur spekulieren, wenn man Geld verlieren möchte. Der Trend ist bereits nach den ersten Pump& Dumps nach unten gerichtet.
Heißt also Ausverkauf an dumme Newbies, die glauben mit dem Coin durchstarten zu können, wobei andere bereits das große Geld abgesahnt haben.
Pump&Dump in seiner klassischsten Form also.

Wenn ihrs wie die großen Absahner machen wollt, dann müsst ihr einen Coin kaufen, der taufrisch ist!
Nebenbei gibt es noch Coins bei denen ein Langzeitinvestment möglich ist.

Mein heißer Tip für ein Langzeitinvestment ist NEM.

Einfach meinen letzten Beitrag dazu durchlesen.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=554328.msg6282011#msg6282011




Ich verfolge NAS schon ein bisschen länger.
Respekt!
Kennst du vielleicht auch EXOCOIN?




Title: Re: ☆ DE Altcoin Chat ☆
Post by: dewdeded on April 23, 2014, 01:17:51 PM
WTF is NAS?


Title: Re: ☆ DE Altcoin Chat ☆
Post by: fred.81 on April 23, 2014, 10:00:15 PM
WTF is NAS?

Öffne mal den Link von Twinwinnerd; dann weißt du es  ;)

Ist aber eigentlich nicht weiter erwähnenswert. Purer Pump and Dump Coin, der schon seine Hochs hatte und nun in der Klon-Nische verschwindet, aus der er hergekommen ist.


Title: Re: ☆ DE Altcoin Chat ☆
Post by: dewdeded on June 01, 2014, 10:25:07 AM
CoinGecko.com
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360 Degree Overview of Cryptocurrencies
Confused Over a Coin's Prospect? Don't Be.

CoinGecko collects thousands of data points and uses these data to quantitatively rank the world's top cryptocurrencies based on key aspects such as Developer Activity, Community and Liquidity. We are still in Beta and have plans to include dozens more metrics in the coming weeks.

Ist eine Seite die Altcoins ranked nach erzielten Scores in drei Wertungskategorien (Developer, Community, Liquidity). Siehe: http://www.coingecko.com/methodology

Ist eine gute Seite und der richtige Ansatz um mittelfristig Altcoins zu zuverlässig vergleichen, bewerten und ranken zu können. Die Methodologie muss und wird sich mit der Zeit weiter entwickeln, so bald weitere Erfahrungswerte vorliegen sowie sich in der Szene weitere Konsenspositionen zur relevanten Altcoin-Themenstellungen gebildet haben, deren Erfüllungsgrad man dann scoren kann.


---> http://www.coingecko.com/


Title: Re: ☆ DE Altcoin Chat ☆
Post by: Momimaus on June 01, 2014, 11:32:54 AM
CoinGecko.com
Quote
360 Degree Overview of Cryptocurrencies
Confused Over a Coin's Prospect? Don't Be.

CoinGecko collects thousands of data points and uses these data to quantitatively rank the world's top cryptocurrencies based on key aspects such as Developer Activity, Community and Liquidity. We are still in Beta and have plans to include dozens more metrics in the coming weeks.

Ist eine Seite die Altcoins ranked nach erzielten Scores in drei Wertungskategorien (Developer, Community, Liquidity). Siehe: http://www.coingecko.com/methodology

Ist eine gute Seite und der richtige Ansatz um mittelfristig Altcoins zu zuverlässig vergleichen, bewerten und ranken zu können. Die Methodologie muss und wird sich mit der Zeit weiter entwickeln, so bald weitere Erfahrungswerte vorliegen sowie sich in der Szene weitere Konsenspositionen zur relevanten Altcoin-Themenstellungen gebildet haben, deren Erfüllungsgrad man dann scoren kann.


---> http://www.coingecko.com/


Seite aufmachen, Liste anschauen, Seite zumachen weil komplett lächerlich.


Title: Re: ☆ DE Altcoin Chat ☆
Post by: Jonasbarmer on June 02, 2014, 04:37:03 PM
CoinGecko.com
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360 Degree Overview of Cryptocurrencies
Confused Over a Coin's Prospect? Don't Be.

CoinGecko collects thousands of data points and uses these data to quantitatively rank the world's top cryptocurrencies based on key aspects such as Developer Activity, Community and Liquidity. We are still in Beta and have plans to include dozens more metrics in the coming weeks.

Ist eine Seite die Altcoins ranked nach erzielten Scores in drei Wertungskategorien (Developer, Community, Liquidity). Siehe: http://www.coingecko.com/methodology

Ist eine gute Seite und der richtige Ansatz um mittelfristig Altcoins zu zuverlässig vergleichen, bewerten und ranken zu können. Die Methodologie muss und wird sich mit der Zeit weiter entwickeln, so bald weitere Erfahrungswerte vorliegen sowie sich in der Szene weitere Konsenspositionen zur relevanten Altcoin-Themenstellungen gebildet haben, deren Erfüllungsgrad man dann scoren kann.


---> http://www.coingecko.com/


Seite aufmachen, Liste anschauen, Seite zumachen weil komplett lächerlich.


Musst mal etwas genauer begründen warum du das so siehst.. ich habe mir die Seite auch angeschaut; aber das wie du das siehst, verstehe ich nicht.


Title: Re: ☆ DE Altcoin Chat ☆
Post by: Momimaus on June 02, 2014, 05:22:44 PM
CoinGecko.com
Quote
360 Degree Overview of Cryptocurrencies
Confused Over a Coin's Prospect? Don't Be.

CoinGecko collects thousands of data points and uses these data to quantitatively rank the world's top cryptocurrencies based on key aspects such as Developer Activity, Community and Liquidity. We are still in Beta and have plans to include dozens more metrics in the coming weeks.

Ist eine Seite die Altcoins ranked nach erzielten Scores in drei Wertungskategorien (Developer, Community, Liquidity). Siehe: http://www.coingecko.com/methodology

Ist eine gute Seite und der richtige Ansatz um mittelfristig Altcoins zu zuverlässig vergleichen, bewerten und ranken zu können. Die Methodologie muss und wird sich mit der Zeit weiter entwickeln, so bald weitere Erfahrungswerte vorliegen sowie sich in der Szene weitere Konsenspositionen zur relevanten Altcoin-Themenstellungen gebildet haben, deren Erfüllungsgrad man dann scoren kann.


---> http://www.coingecko.com/


Seite aufmachen, Liste anschauen, Seite zumachen weil komplett lächerlich.


Musst mal etwas genauer begründen warum du das so siehst.. ich habe mir die Seite auch angeschaut; aber das wie du das siehst, verstehe ich nicht.

Weil die Bewertungen lächerlich sind. Typische pump coins in den top ten.


Title: Re: ☆ DE Altcoin Chat ☆
Post by: Jonasbarmer on June 02, 2014, 07:15:39 PM
Achso, ok. mir war mit deinem letzten Post nicht ganz klar, was du damit gemeint hast.


Title: Re: ☆ DE Altcoin Chat ☆
Post by: ChekaZ on June 03, 2014, 08:59:59 AM
Hey Leute! :)

Ich persönlich gehe im Moment mit Feathercoin, kurze Erklärung hierzu, weil die meisten denken es wäre ein LitecoinClone, was aber nicht stimmt ;)

Feathercoin hat in über 1nem Jahr existenz jetzt so einiges geändert, war es zu Anfang ein LitecoinClon, ist jetzt kaum noch was davon zu sehen.

Blocktime: 60 Sekunden (Zuvor 150 Sekunden - /2.5)
Blockreward: 80 Coins   (Zuvor 200 - /2.5)
Total Supply 336m
Eigener Schwierigkeitsanpassungs Algorithmus

-Magic-Numbers wurden neu entwickelt. (Noch nicht implementiert)

-Neuer Hashingalgorithmus ist im Development, sollte diesen Monat fertiggestellt werden (NeoScrypt)

-Viele Händler sind vorhanden, die bereits Feathercoins akzeptieren.

-Monatliche Meetups in Oxford mit Developern und CommunityMitgliedern.

Der Preis ist im Moment trotzdem ziemlich niedrig, was aus der unterdrückung von Litecoinwhales resultiert, welches Problem aber mit dem neuen HashingAlgorithmus behoben werden sollte.

Mein GeheimTipp ist im Moment Orbitcoin:

- ScryptAlgo
- LowDiff
- Neues Development unter Ghostlander, führender PoS Developer in der CryptoSzene.

Grüße,
ChekaZ


Title: Re: ☆ DE Altcoin Chat ☆
Post by: Prototyp on June 04, 2014, 04:48:23 AM
Ich denke und hoffe der (DCM) Digital Commerce sollte bald massiv steigen.

1.35 Mio Coins Max und die IPO Phase auf Bittex ist gerade vorüber. Gutes und vor allem transparentes Dev Team. Guter Launch und und Konzept.
Ich denke auf dem Coin sollte man ein Auge haben.


Title: Re: ☆ DE Altcoin Chat ☆
Post by: Vladimircook on June 05, 2014, 12:47:11 AM
Ich denke und hoffe der (DCM) Digital Commerce sollte bald massiv steigen.

1.35 Mio Coins Max und die IPO Phase auf Bittex ist gerade vorüber. Gutes und vor allem transparentes Dev Team. Guter Launch und und Konzept.
Ich denke auf dem Coin sollte man ein Auge haben.

Hallo.
Kannst du mal den Link zu DCM posten? Ich suche und suche, finde aber nicht den passenden Thread.


Title: Re: ☆ DE Altcoin Chat ☆
Post by: Prototyp on June 05, 2014, 04:44:27 AM
Hier ist der Tread mit allen Infos.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=636470.480


Title: Re: ☆ DE Altcoin Chat ☆
Post by: BlackFor3st on June 05, 2014, 08:39:53 AM
Ich denke und hoffe der (DCM) Digital Commerce sollte bald massiv steigen.

1.35 Mio Coins Max und die IPO Phase auf Bittex ist gerade vorüber. Gutes und vor allem transparentes Dev Team. Guter Launch und und Konzept.
Ich denke auf dem Coin sollte man ein Auge haben.

Hallo.
Kannst du mal den Link zu DCM posten? Ich suche und suche, finde aber nicht den passenden Thread.

Kleiner Tipp für die Zukunft: DCM (oder andere Abkürzung für einen Coin) + bitcointalk in Google. So kommst eigentlich immer zu dem gesuchten "Main"-Thread -> Forensuche ist viel zu langsam und schlecht  :)


Title: Re: ☆ DE Altcoin Chat ☆
Post by: dewdeded on January 18, 2015, 08:30:20 PM
Bump.


Title: Re: ☆ DE Altcoin Chat ☆
Post by: dewdeded on January 19, 2015, 07:30:17 PM
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Title: Re: ☆ DE Altcoin Chat ☆
Post by: dewdeded on January 24, 2015, 09:47:47 AM
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BITCOMSEC and the Tracking of a Hacker

This is the story about how one hacker was able to infiltrate an up-and-coming exchange, steal its coins, and essentially leave it in ruins.

No, it’s not Mt. Gox, unfortunately.

This is the story of the demise of CyrptoRush.in as told by BITCOMSEC (Bitcoin Community Security Project), a group of developers who seek to improve the reputation of Bitcoin by improving security across the community. During the spring of 2014, CryptoRush was thrown into disarray as the result of a hack (actually two) and the good people at BITCOMSEC decided to do what they could to figure out what happened and expose the perpetrator. We thought it would be helpful to give what BITCOMSEC found out to show that there are people out there working for better security in Bitcoin and to publicize the lessons of what they discovered.

The Founding of CryptoRush.in

In 2013 there was a rush to create altcoins to mimic the success that Bitcoin was experiencing. Some of these were serious attempts to find better ways to do things that Bitcoin was attempting, some were frankly pump-and-dump operations that crypto-enthusiasts still need to be aware of and avoid, and some were tongue-in-cheek attempts to have a bit of fun and which gained some measure of success due to the fun-loving nature of the communities that grew up around them. One of these was CoinyeCoin, named after the noted rapper Kanye West.

Kanye, unfortunately, didn’t see the humor in having his face used as the emblem for the coin. Admittedly, the image, his head merged with a fish tail, was not very attractive. Kanye issued a cease-and-desist order and, after a short time, the creators of the coin abandoned it rather than face legal action. The creators might have abandoned it, but the community didn’t, and a number of members of the community tried to keep it alive. Finding no place to exchange the coin, CoinyeCoin enthusiast LinkandZelda decided to create an exchange to handle the sale of this and a slew of other less-than-prime altcoins in addition to Bitcoin and Litecoin. At first, the new exchange gained some popularity and trading volumes began to rise.

The Hacker Begins

The hacker didn’t start by targeting CryptoRush, but about the same time as LinkandZelda were mining CoinyeCoin and starting to plan their new exchange, the hacker was setting up an altcoin mining pool called extrapool.com. In the altcoin mania of the time, this site, like many others, got a number of users wanting to maximize their mining returns. Unfortunately, the owner of the site was a Pilipino from Cebu island named Jimmy Bluey Amatong. The site soon amassed a score of accusations of being a scam for non-payment. When the accusations hit critical mass, the site went off line, taking all the coins mined by its customers with it.

It would have been bad enough if this had been the end of the story, but unfortunately Amatong was not finished. All the time that his mining site was running, a script he had installed was collecting the login credentials of all his customers. After the demise of his site, Amatong set scouring exchanges, email accounts, Dropbox accounts, etc. for anyone who was lax enough to use the same password across their accounts. One would think that people savvy enough to be using Bitcoin in 2013, or technically skilled enough to start an altcoin exchange, would know enough to use good password hygiene, Amatong apparently found a lot of good coins just lying around to be picked up.

The Hacker Strikes

One of people whose password was exposed on extrapool.com was LinkandZelda and Amatong soon found himself with access to CryptoRush’s backup servers. Amatong began a very crafty slow-leech of coins from the CryptoRush wallets. He probably would have been able to get away with this for much longer than he did, but only a month or two after his initial breech, another hacker cracked into CryptoRush and swept more than 800 BTC from their wallets. Amatong, panicked that his golden goose was about to expire began a mass sweep of all the altcoin wallets on the CryptoRush servers.

According to BITCOMSEC, Amatong was able to use his ill-gotten gains to move his family out of an apartment that had been threatening his family with eviction into a much nicer place on Cebu and posts a very nice white Ford truck Amatong bought. I won’t go into the specifics of how BITCOMSEC discovered all this here, but if you are interested, and especially if you want to see the logs that BITCOMSEC was able to follow, you can read their original post here.

The Aftermath at CryptoRush

This part of the story is documented on BitcoinTalk.org and Reddit. After the loss of the exchange’s coins, the management decided that they would try to issue CryptoRush shares which would pay out a percentage of fees to holders. Their story was that one of the CryptoRush staff, a person who went by the name Fyrstikken, would hold 60$ of the shares, building trust in their value because of his significant stake. In reality, he would hold only 10%, meaning that the exchange would be trying to recapitalize with this sale and would (initially, they probably though) make payouts with sales.

I’ve heard it said that most Ponzi schemes do not start as Ponzis, but rather are legitimate businesses that find themselves in trouble for one reason or another, try to make good on the back of increased investment, and them find themselves in a vicious cycle wherein they pay off old investors on the proceeds of new. Before this nascent Ponzi really got its chance to get off the ground, infighting within Cryptocoin and a very public battle between the developers of Darkcoin and Fyrstikken brought the exchange down.

CryptoRush Reborn

If you go looking for any of the sites associated with Jimmy Amatong, you’ll find them down – probably due to the negative exposure given them by BITCOMSEC. If you go looking for CryptoRush, you’ll find that it’s still up and running, now under the management of King Dragon. They have been posting on their blog since December of last year, and as of January 12 were posting the addition of 2FA for withdrawals. From what we can tell, volumes are low, but given that we are still at the early stages of the cryptocurrency revolution, there’s nothing to say that it couldn’t build a reputation for honesty and security despite (and perhaps even because of) its troubled start.

The Takeaway

As BITCOMSEC note in the conclusion of their own posting on this, people need to take responsibility for their own security:

Do not use the same password for multiple sites, especially login credentials to servers.
Pay attention to your account on third party services, and never leave extra funds in online accounts.
Even if the SSL certificate looks and seems legit – click on the Lock icon next to the domain and confirm the domain, name and contact information of your destined company.
To this we’ll add a couple more:

Never trust a site that is run with a pseudonym. Bitcoin Warrior learned this lesson the hard way when we trusted TradeFortress at CoinLenders. CoinLenders used lent depositors coins to exchanges or other businesses that needed Bitcoin liquidity and paid handsome interest rates. This site is another one that was probably honest at the start and that would have likely turned Ponzi had it not been for a hack. Due to the rising price of Bitcoin (November 2013) and the reduced value of the ‘mining shares’ that TradeFortress used as collateral, the economics had turned against the business model. It may be that TradeFortress, seeing the trend, decided to hack himself, or it may be that he legitimately got hacked. In either case, after the hack, there was no holding TradeFortress accountable, or even getting reliable information from him. Eventually he ran away to China.
Never invest in businesses that offer returns that seem too good to be true. Again, CoinLenders falls in this category, but we are also seeing various crypto-investment opportunities advertised – arbitrage, cloud mining, etc. What really strikes us about many of these opportunities is that even casual research will turn up many people calling out these opportunities as scams. This research will often also turn up people who invest knowing that these business are scams. The rationale is that if you get in early, you can get big returns that the sites pay as ‘proof’ of their legitimacy to pull in even more suckers. The trick is simply getting out before the site disappears. There are several problems with this rationale: First, you are feeding the beast and allowing it to grow instead of starving it as should be done. Second, you are an accessory to the crime since you are knowingly accepting profits you know are intended to be stolen from the bag holders when the site disappears. And finally, these sites disappear quickly, so you may very well be the one holding the bag.
Our thanks to the good people of BITCOMSEC for their good work.
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Quelle: http://bitcoinwarrior.net/2015/01/bitcomsec-tracking-hacker/


Title: Re: ☆ DE Altcoin Chat ☆
Post by: dewdeded on February 21, 2015, 09:34:15 AM
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CAVIRTEX News
Feb. 19, 2015, 4:46 p.m. - Update on withdrawals

Since announcing our intention to shut down we have received an incredible amount of positive feedback from our users, partners, and community members, and we would like to say thank you for your kind feedback and years of patronage.

For clients looking to withdraw CAD we are experiencing delays due to the volume of withdrawals. Due to payment provider limitations, we currently cannot process direct deposits in excess of $150,000 per day. Given the current withdrawal requests we expect withdrawals to take at least 5 days longer than usual. We appreciate your patience.

Bitcoin and Litecoin withdrawals will begin soon. Again, we are concerned over the safety of your funds, so we want to be extremely careful confirming that the user withdrawing is actually the owner of the account. We assure you that we want to return funds as much as you want to withdraw them.

Please inform us immediately if you get a browser confirmation email from us that you did not initiate. For those of you who have not changed your passwords, please do so. Please fill out your return addresses under settings > user preferences.

Feb. 17, 2015, 12:12 p.m. - CAVIRTEX shutting down

Effective immediately, CAVIRTEX intends to cease carrying on an active Bitcoin business and will be winding down its operations in an orderly manner. As a result, effective immediately, no new deposits will be accepted by CAVIRTEX. Trading on CAVIRTEX will be halted effective March 20, 2015. Effective March 25th, 2015, no withdrawals will be processed. CAVIRTEX will communicate with any account holders that continue to hold balances after March 25, 2015.

We have maintained 100% reserves. CAVIRTEX is solvent and remains in a position to accommodate all customer withdrawal requests received prior to March 25, 2015. However, On February 15, 2015 we found reason to believe that an older version of our database, including 2FA secrets and hashed passwords, may have been compromised. This database did not include identification documents.

Because security and the safety of customer funds are paramount to our mission and the success of Bitcoin in general, CAVIRTEX has determined to cease active operations in the Bitcoin business and to return all customer funds. We believe that the damage to the company's reputation caused by the potential compromise will significantly harm our ability to continue to operate successfully.

As a result of the potential compromise of our database we cannot be certain of the confidentiality of account credentials. Please log into your account and change your password immediately. Please also clear your CAVIRTEX browser cookies. BTC and LTC withdrawal will remain temporarily disabled.

We ask that customers please fill in their Bitcoin and Litecoin return addresses on their user preferences. These fields have been cleared for all users and will need to be filled in once again. This page is accessible under Settings then User Preferences. Your BTC and LTC will be sent to that address. CAD withdrawals remain enabled.

CAVIRTEX continues to believe, as we have over the last three and a half years of operation, that cryptocurrency is here to stay. We appreciate all the support from our amazing customers who have been on this journey with us. You are the true Bitcoin pioneers and with your help we have imprinted Bitcoin in the Canadian conscience.

Even with this latest development, we are proud to say that we have never lost customer funds. To our knowledge, our production environment has never been breached.

CAVIRTEX intends to communicate with its loyal shareholders regarding this announcement in the near future.

Thank you to our loyal customers and all of our supporters who believed in us but more importantly trusted us.

Sincerely,

The CAVIRTEX Team

Feb. 15, 2015, 5:57 p.m. - Deposits and withdrawals disabled

BTC and LTC wallets have been disabled due to a known issue. All customer funds are safe. Please be patient while we address the issue.
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Quelle: https://www.cavirtex.com/news


Title: Re: ☆ DE Altcoin Chat ☆
Post by: dewdeded on May 18, 2015, 03:15:23 AM
http://tuckfheman.com/post/119218150749/worlds-first-atomic-cross-chain-transfer


Title: Re: ☆ DE Altcoin Chat ☆
Post by: dewdeded on April 01, 2018, 08:18:17 AM
Vorbildliche Projekte/Netzwerke
https://riat.at/cryptoeconomics/laboratory-for-future-cryptoeconomics/
https://www.paralelnipolis.cz/koncepty/cryptoanarchy-institute/
http://nakamotoinstitute.org/
https://ifca.ai/  

Lesenswert
https://github.com/tombusby/cypherpunk-research
https://anarplex.net/ [Dort gibt es neuen, uniquen, relevanten Content, wie https://anarplex.net/hosted/files/secondrealm/secondrealm.pdf , für Leute die sich (heute noch) ernsthaft für die originalen Beweggründe & Ideale hinter Bitcoin & einbringen möchten.]
https://monoskop.org [ Bspw.: https://monoskop.org/images/4/42/Ludlow_Peter_Crypto_Anarchy_Cyberstates_and_Pirate_Utopias.pdf , siehe zuvor]
http://hackingdistributed.com/ [Mit Ausnahmen]
http://ledgerjournal.org/ojs/index.php/ledger