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Title: As a 17 year-old libertarian:
Post by: ALPHA. on November 24, 2011, 05:59:27 AM
https://i.imgur.com/wq85p.jpg


Title: Re: As a 17 year-old libertarian:
Post by: netrin on November 24, 2011, 07:16:59 AM
I might send that to my parents. Thanks Atlas.


Title: Re: As a 17 year-old libertarian:
Post by: rainingbitcoins on November 24, 2011, 07:24:52 AM
Hey Atlas, I thought you didn't believe in segregating people into meaningless groups like race or what year they were born.


Title: Re: As a 17 year-old libertarian:
Post by: ALPHA. on November 24, 2011, 07:47:45 AM
Hey Atlas, I thought you didn't believe in segregating people into meaningless groups like race or what year they were born.

Culture can unfortunately be an objective exception; however, just as there are species and breeds its representatives can be quite diverse.


Title: Re: As a 17 year-old libertarian:
Post by: onesalt on November 24, 2011, 05:56:36 PM
Actually it's the republicans and the rise of right wing conservatism that did that. Reagan did nothing but spend money that the country didn't have and it basically set the prescedent for every other president (except clinton, who understood that you need to actually have money before you can spend it) to do exactly the same thing.


Title: Re: As a 17 year-old libertarian:
Post by: Kilmyos on November 24, 2011, 07:38:39 PM
http://www.craigsteiner.us/articles/16


Title: Re: As a 17 year-old libertarian:
Post by: ALPHA. on November 24, 2011, 07:54:53 PM
Actually it's the republicans and the rise of right wing conservatism that did that. Reagan did nothing but spend money that the country didn't have and it basically set the prescedent for every other president (except clinton, who understood that you need to actually have money before you can spend it) to do exactly the same thing.
Try FDR and Theodore. The New Deal era was a precursor to the further damage.


Title: Re: As a 17 year-old libertarian:
Post by: neptop on November 24, 2011, 08:56:19 PM
Can someone get me a list of countries without debt?


Title: Re: As a 17 year-old libertarian:
Post by: Hawker on November 24, 2011, 09:04:34 PM
Actually it's the republicans and the rise of right wing conservatism that did that. Reagan did nothing but spend money that the country didn't have and it basically set the prescedent for every other president (except clinton, who understood that you need to actually have money before you can spend it) to do exactly the same thing.
Try FDR and Theodore. The New Deal era was a precursor to the further damage.

Not strictly true.  The New Deal worked until 1937 when FDR lost his nerve and cut public spending throwing American back into recession.  The UK was embarking on re-armament at the time and was saved by that extra boost of cash.


Title: Re: As a 17 year-old libertarian:
Post by: FreeMoney on November 25, 2011, 07:08:25 PM
Actually it's the republicans and the rise of right wing conservatism that did that. Reagan did nothing but spend money that the country didn't have and it basically set the prescedent for every other president (except clinton, who understood that you need to actually have money before you can spend it) to do exactly the same thing.
Try FDR and Theodore. The New Deal era was a precursor to the further damage.

Not strictly true.  The New Deal worked until 1937 when FDR lost his nerve and cut public spending throwing American back into recession.  The UK was embarking on re-armament at the time and was saved by that extra boost of cash.

What made him lose his nerve, what did he think would happen if he continued?


Title: Re: As a 17 year-old libertarian:
Post by: ineededausername on November 25, 2011, 08:52:09 PM
Can someone get me a list of countries without debt?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_external_debt


Title: Re: As a 17 year-old libertarian:
Post by: crawdaddy on November 26, 2011, 02:54:24 PM
Actually it's the republicans and the rise of right wing conservatism that did that. Reagan did nothing but spend money that the country didn't have and it basically set the prescedent for every other president (except clinton, who understood that you need to actually have money before you can spend it) to do exactly the same thing.

Thats right. FDR and Wilson (among others) didn't spend money. They spent magic fairy dust!


Title: Re: As a 17 year-old libertarian:
Post by: Hawker on November 27, 2011, 11:54:48 PM
Actually it's the republicans and the rise of right wing conservatism that did that. Reagan did nothing but spend money that the country didn't have and it basically set the prescedent for every other president (except clinton, who understood that you need to actually have money before you can spend it) to do exactly the same thing.

Thats right. FDR and Wilson (among others) didn't spend money. They spent magic fairy dust!

They balanced their budgets over the economic cycle.  Reagan and Bush were both unusual in that they borrowed when times were good.


Title: Re: As a 17 year-old libertarian:
Post by: ALPHA. on November 28, 2011, 12:45:21 AM
The only president that has successfully balanced the budget was Andrew Jackson. Of course that was torn apart very soon.