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Title: Received message from "Bitcoin SV" via PM
Post by: Quickseller on September 10, 2020, 12:08:53 PM
Hello, I am BSV representative. Please help us against the trolls, we needs a merits for reaching full member and have ability to wearing official BSV avatar. In the future, we promise you full support and to returning a half of the merits you sent. Let's make these trolls shit with bricks (nutildah, BitcoinFX, Piston Honda & others)

I received the above message from a "BSV representative", unsolicited. I won't be sending this person any merit.

I am not sure how wearing a BSV avatar will make anyone "shit with bricks".

This is being posted for transparency and to request that "BSV representative" stop sending stupid PMs, or PMs that you think are not stupid. 


Title: Re: Received message from "Bitcoin SV" via PM
Post by: efialtis on September 10, 2020, 12:13:43 PM
They should just launch a signature campaign and ask their participants to merit their posts - that's easy enough and obviously working and business as usual for some...  :D


Title: Re: Received message from "Bitcoin SV" via PM
Post by: mocacinno on September 10, 2020, 12:46:21 PM
Bitcoin SV opened a topic that actually accuses you of sending unsollicited PM's:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5274890

Just giving you both a heads-up


Title: Re: Received message from "Bitcoin SV" via PM
Post by: efialtis on September 10, 2020, 12:49:08 PM
Bitcoin SV opened a topic that actually accuses you of sending unsollicited PM's:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5274890

Just giving you both a heads-up

Yeah - showtime, I actually didn't visit this section for quite some time and now I remember why... this is kindergarten at its best! :D Some people really do have too much time, don't they...


Title: Re: Received message from "Bitcoin SV" via PM
Post by: AB de Royse777 on September 10, 2020, 12:50:26 PM
Bitcoin SV opened a topic that actually accuses you of sending unsollicited PM's:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5274890

Just giving you both a heads-up
I will believe Quickseller over Bitcoin SV on his claim. However, I asked him to report the message to mod/admin to prove the legitimacy.

Anyway, report the post to the mod/admin to prove the legitimacy. It's hard to believe you considering the trust wall you have.
It's not easy to believe.

They should just launch a signature campaign and ask their participants to merit their posts - that's easy enough and obviously working and business as usual for some...  :D
LOL
Considering the reputation, this will be a failed project.


Title: Re: Received message from "Bitcoin SV" via PM
Post by: Quickseller on September 10, 2020, 12:52:13 PM
Bitcoin SV opened a topic that actually accuses you of sending unsollicited PM's:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5274890

Just giving you both a heads-up
Send 0.05 BTC to bc1q95tq42s3d5pjx9k5aszh5vvg6wkf5kp8xu4pw8 if you need to full support on this forum. Or we will troll you every day

He created a self moderated thread and I will respond here. The PM quote he posted is fake, I have never asked him for payment, I don’t believe I have ever sent him a PM.

He appears to be a professional troll.


Title: Re: Received message from "Bitcoin SV" via PM
Post by: marlboroza on September 10, 2020, 12:53:06 PM
Lol, that scam should be banned on this forum.
Bitcoin SV opened a topic that actually accuses you of sending unsollicited PM's:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5274890

Just giving you both a heads-up
Time in both messages is the same:
Send 0.05 BTC to bc1q95tq42s3d5pjx9k5aszh5vvg6wkf5kp8xu4pw8 if you need to full support on this forum. Or we will troll you every day
My best guess is that scammer Bitcoin SV made this up after seeing quacky's topic.


Title: Re: Received message from "Bitcoin SV" via PM
Post by: AB de Royse777 on September 10, 2020, 12:55:55 PM
Lol, that scam should be banned in this forum.
And game-protect please :-P @Mr. Thermos / theymos :-D

Quote
My best guess is that scammer Bitcoin SV made this up after seeing quacky's topic.
After reading the response from Quickseller above (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5274882.msg55168792#msg55168792), I do not doubt much with this quote.

The development was poor lol.



Title: Re: Received message from "Bitcoin SV" via PM
Post by: efialtis on September 10, 2020, 12:57:48 PM

They should just launch a signature campaign and ask their participants to merit their posts - that's easy enough and obviously working and business as usual for some...  :D
LOL
Considering the reputation, this will be a failed project.

True... they might be better off with fiverr, I think merits sell for around $15-$20 each... LOL


Title: Re: Received message from "Bitcoin SV" via PM
Post by: mocacinno on September 10, 2020, 12:59:33 PM
--snip--
And game-protect please :-P @Mr. Thermos / theymos :-D

--snip--

AFAIK, game-protect was banned a while ago... To bad his reputation spam remains on the trustwall of dozens of users... Man, i seriously disliked this individual (game-protect).


Title: Re: Received message from "Bitcoin SV" via PM
Post by: AB de Royse777 on September 10, 2020, 01:04:46 PM
True... they might be better off with fiverr, I think merits sell for around $15-$20 each... LOL
I heard things about fiverr but gosh this is expensive!

AFAIK, game-protect was banned a while ago... To bad his reputation spam remains on the trustwall of dozens of users... Man, i seriously disliked this individual (game-protect).
Sorry not the game-protect account, yes it is banned. I was meaning the new account he is handling recently. It's pretty clear that behind that new account (hero rank), we have the same person (game-protect)

I'm just a harmless user troll
FTFY. :-D


Title: Re: Received message from "Bitcoin SV" via PM
Post by: suchmoon on September 10, 2020, 01:20:30 PM
I'm just a harmless user troll
FTFY. :-D

I wouldn't call him harmless. A quite disruptive troll, promoting scam projects, making unfounded accusations, sockpuppeting like crazy (may seem like poetic justice for Quicksy but still I wouldn't wish it on anyone).


Title: Re: Received message from "Bitcoin SV" via PM
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on September 10, 2020, 01:33:15 PM
I will believe Quickseller over Bitcoin SV on his claim. However, I asked him to report the message to mod/admin to prove the legitimacy.
I seriously doubt QS sent BSV an unsolicited PM trying to extort bitcoin from him, especially since QS started this thread first, and BSV started what looks to be a revenge thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5274890.0;topicseen).  Given how BSV has acted previously, I'm 99.99% confident in my assessment here--but hey, if the mods care to step in and verify the facts, I'm all for that.

They should just launch a signature campaign and ask their participants to merit their posts - that's easy enough and obviously working and business as usual for some...  :D
Hopefully that's sarcasm, but it's hard to tell on the interwebz.  I also hope you're not referring to Chipmixer or Foxpup's avatar thing, because nobody's asking anybody to send merits to fellow campaign participants in either one.  Just sayin'.


Title: Re: Received message from "Bitcoin SV" via PM
Post by: rhomelmabini on September 10, 2020, 02:36:50 PM
Why not throw some screenshots of your own inboxes rather than posting a quoted messages. That way we'll find the one sending unsolicited PMs but I bet I know who's the one lying here.

By the way I think I found a plagiarism-trolling here. Sounds a ban in me.

The quote in the OP is fake.
The quote in the OP is fake.


Title: Re: Received message from "Bitcoin SV" via PM
Post by: suchmoon on September 10, 2020, 02:41:50 PM
Why not throw some screenshots of your own inboxes rather than posting a quoted messages. That way we'll find the one sending unsolicited PMs but I bet I know who's the one lying here.

Screenshots can't prove anything. About as easy to fake as a quote. Reporting to admins could prove it but I'm sure Bitcoin SV wouldn't do it and would just keep trolling.


Title: Re: Received message from "Bitcoin SV" via PM
Post by: mole0815 on September 10, 2020, 02:49:53 PM
Why not throw some screenshots of your own inboxes rather than posting a quoted messages. That way we'll find the one sending unsolicited PMs but I bet I know who's the one lying here.

Screenshots can't prove anything. About as easy to fake as a quote. Reporting to admins could prove it but I'm sure Bitcoin SV wouldn't do it and would just keep trolling.

That was also my thought about it. I ask you both (or just the one who is telling the truth) to click on the "Report to moderator" button in the PN.
This will provide the proof. As long as this hasn't happened, all further postings are unnecessary ;)


Title: Re: Received message from "Bitcoin SV" via PM
Post by: Quickseller on September 10, 2020, 02:56:30 PM
I have reported the PM to all the admins asking them to confirm the above message in this thread.  I cannot control if they actually take my requested action.

If there is any question as to if the message in the OP is real, you can review the merit history of Bitcoin SV. His merit history reflects him doing effectively the same thing he is proposing.


Title: Re: Received message from "Bitcoin SV" via PM
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on September 10, 2020, 05:31:53 PM
I'm just a harmless user

Nobody who publicly promotes Bitcoin SV is harmless. You’re a shit posting, troll who enjoys annoying people.

There’s lots of evidence that you’re actually a perma banned former poster.


Title: Re: Received message from "Bitcoin SV" via PM
Post by: The Cryptovator on September 10, 2020, 05:53:36 PM
I have reported the PM to all the admins asking them to confirm the above message in this thread.  I cannot control if they actually take my requested action.
This is pure unsolicited PM, if it's true then it's also a merit begging which isn't allowed on the forum. Because begging is against forum rules. Either any admin respond here or not, the reported user is supposed to get a ban. It seems Bitcoin SV has created a counter self-moderated topic after you made this post. By reading both posts and by considering all the replies made by both of you, I am assuming your accusation is right.

I will suggest both of you report to admins about unsolicited PM's. So someone from you will get a ban and we can avoid necessary arguments. We know all Bitcoin SV is a pure & well-known troll and trust abuser, I don't believe in his statements without proper evidence. Posting quotes about unsolicited PM prove nothing.


Title: Re: Received message from "Bitcoin SV" via PM
Post by: marlboroza on September 10, 2020, 07:25:07 PM
By the way I think I found a plagiarism-trolling here. Sounds a ban in me.
Whole topic is more or less copy/pasted but it is more like a parody. I wouldn't call that plagiarism.
I'm just a harmless user
CW is fraudster, BSV is scam, you are shill account. It is in your nature to lie so fuck off.


Title: Re: Received message from "Bitcoin SV" via PM
Post by: rich conq bonq on September 11, 2020, 03:40:06 PM
Quickseller is such a scammer, he even has flags.

"Warning: One or more bitcointalk.org users have reported that they believe that the creator of this topic displays some red flags which make them high-risk. (Check their trust page to see the detailed trust ratings.) While the bitcointalk.org administration does not verify such claims, you should proceed with extreme caution."


Title: Re: Received message from "Bitcoin SV" via PM
Post by: actmyname on September 11, 2020, 04:06:49 PM
Quickseller is such a scammer, he even has flags.
And this relates to the situation... how? I fail to understand how any of it is relevant when the nature is that someone made a claim without evidence, and is continuing to say so again and again. Ad hominem attacks and character evidence do not distract from that core issue.

Are sockpuppet accounts being made now, @Bitcoin SV?


Title: Re: Received message from "Bitcoin SV" via PM
Post by: Quickseller on September 11, 2020, 04:35:04 PM

Are sockpuppet accounts being made now, @Bitcoin SV?
My guess is that he was temp banned for bumping a lot of old QS threads with similar posts. It wouldn’t be the first time something like that happened.


Title: Re: Received message from "Bitcoin SV" via PM
Post by: LoyceV on September 11, 2020, 05:22:32 PM
Quickseller is a famous scammer on this forum. Liar and very experinced extortionist

I'm just a harmless user
I'll give you a chance to prove Quickseller lied in this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5274882.msg55168792#msg55168792) if you let me verify your PM history by providing access to your account. I've done something similar before, and I have no interest in stealing your account.

If your post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5274890.msg55168678#msg55168678) about Quickseller sending you a PM asking for 0.05 BTC is true, your topic deserves Merit and I'll Merit it.

However, and here's the catch: if there is no such PM and thus you lied, I'll change your password into a very large random number which I won't tell you and won't remember. Deal?


Title: Re: Received message from "Bitcoin SV" via PM
Post by: AB de Royse777 on September 11, 2020, 05:29:36 PM
However, and here's the catch: if there is no such PM and thus you lied, I'll change your password into a very large random number which I won't tell you and won't remember. Deal?
I actually like this creative proposal. Let's see what he responds.
- I deleted the PM?
- I do not trust you?
- LoyceV is asking my account password to steal my account?

I can not be more creative :-D

PS: What if they false claim against you sending or asking something? Who will prove that :-P


Title: Re: Received message from "Bitcoin SV" via PM
Post by: logfiles on September 20, 2020, 08:58:19 PM
Here we go. Looks like the mission to wear that much needed BSV avatar about to be accomplished.

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/07/19/ZxZXw.png
Isn't this guy a merit source; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=112208?

If he is then it looks like clear abuse to me by an MS, trying to push the scammer's agenda.


Title: Re: Received message from "Bitcoin SV" via PM
Post by: suchmoon on September 20, 2020, 10:12:00 PM
Isn't this guy a merit source; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=112208?

Yes. You might want to send a PM to theymos and ask him to take a look at it. Vlad2Vlad tends to send tons of merits to his shitcoin thread and now promoting a hypertroll... not a good look.


Title: Re: Received message from "Bitcoin SV" via PM
Post by: AB de Royse777 on September 21, 2020, 06:33:19 AM
Yes. You might want to send a PM to theymos and ask him to take a look at it. Vlad2Vlad tends to send tons of merits to his shitcoin thread and now promoting a hypertroll... not a good look.
Is he a merit source? I think somewhere I read if a merit source abuse his sMerits the theymos will revoke his merit source status but if anyone do anything with his earned sMerits then he (theymos) does not have a problem.


Title: Re: Received message from "Bitcoin SV" via PM
Post by: LoyceV on September 21, 2020, 08:04:02 AM
Is he a merit source?
It must be, up to last Friday (https://loyce.club/Merit/history/112208.html), Vlad2Vlad has sent 3281 sMerit, which is far more than he could have sent without being a source:
https://loyce.club/Merit/history/img/112208_red.gif

I checked the posts, and although I don't agree with Meriting them, I don't expect him to be removed as a source over this.


Title: Re: Received message from "Bitcoin SV" via PM
Post by: AB de Royse777 on September 21, 2020, 08:38:16 AM
I checked the posts, and although I don't agree with Meriting them, I don't expect him to be removed as a source over this.
I just check his merit sending history too and the posts he merited for Bitcoin SV (shitcoin). It's clear that Vlad2Vlad is one of the honest user defined by Bitcoin SV.
Bitcointalk is forum of scammers. Only me and several users here are honest

Good thing.

But after going through the other merited posts I would say it's okay. I will also not want him to be removed. It's just some emotion he responded other than that he is doing fairly good.


Title: Re: Received message from "Bitcoin SV" via PM
Post by: suchmoon on September 21, 2020, 01:07:30 PM
theymos rarely revoke merit source status, i only remember it happened one time (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2827596.msg47229755#msg47229755 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2827596.msg47229755#msg47229755))

There was at least one other case:

Is stingers still a merit source?

Not anymore. That's clear abuse, awarding merit for political reasons rather than any idea of quality. Only because he was a source, I effectively undid those merit sends. If he had not been a merit source, I still would've blacklisted anyone who got into DT1 through that type of shenanigans.

Meriting predominantly your own shitcoin and a known scammer/troll with source merits seems about as bad as "political reasons" since it's not really about post quality.


Title: Re: Received message from "Bitcoin SV" via PM
Post by: efialtis on September 23, 2020, 06:59:16 AM
I will believe Quickseller over Bitcoin SV on his claim. However, I asked him to report the message to mod/admin to prove the legitimacy.
I seriously doubt QS sent BSV an unsolicited PM trying to extort bitcoin from him, especially since QS started this thread first, and BSV started what looks to be a revenge thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5274890.0;topicseen).  Given how BSV has acted previously, I'm 99.99% confident in my assessment here--but hey, if the mods care to step in and verify the facts, I'm all for that.

They should just launch a signature campaign and ask their participants to merit their posts - that's easy enough and obviously working and business as usual for some...  :D
Hopefully that's sarcasm, but it's hard to tell on the interwebz.  I also hope you're not referring to Chipmixer or Foxpup's avatar thing, because nobody's asking anybody to send merits to fellow campaign participants in either one.  Just sayin'.

Sorry for late response - hum, not sure I'd call it sarcasm - there are campaigns where participants merit each other's posts or to be exact, merit their client's posts no matter what - funnily, even when posts are written in a language they don't even understand. So what's the stand when it comes to something like this here in the forum? I see people complaining about other's doing merit giveaways etc. but this is fine? Couldn't care less but the double standards (forum ethics/moral) are pretty annoying.

And no, I wasn't referring to Chipmixer or Foxpup cycling crew.  :D