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The ClipX (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5268068) project, another bounty, managed by the Bounty Detectives' team early today let down bounty hunters gently in what seems a soft exit by announcing that it would no longer continue with the project. The announcement was made here: https://t.me/clipXchannel/13

That was after it had cunningly collected KYC documents from hunters (even though that wasn't explicitly on the bounty thread). ClipX insisted it was going to be a passport document for KYC or nothing. It was really a suspicious move but anxious hunters neglected it. Why ask for only a passport for KYC and not any other document.

My advise to bounty hunters:
1. Don't participate in any bounty without escrowed rewards.
2. Don't be in a rush to participate in every bounty that comes up.
3. Follow only trusted Bounty Managers.
4. DYOR on any project and don't rely on BMs. Most of them don't even research a project before going into contract with project team.

Anyone else got any advice for bounty hunters, especially the noobs among them?

agree, do not provide your documents to everyone, there is a lot of scammers that just want to collect passports and other personal documents

one should follow only trusted BM, but that is obviously not enough, you should always do your own research, or otherwise you can send you personal documents to non-trusted persons, that can use it for some frauds

Better not trust any platforms that requires KYC upon registration or in any investment. It is common even back then whereas projects often tend to manipulate nor pay bounty hunters but not most of them then those hunters would be their living proof of legitimacy, hence with their promotions on a project, they also didn't know that they're just being fooled, then comes right after such hideous activities such as stealing KYC's data and customers identity.

To all bounty hunters out there, better not trust other people's opinions, but rather search and investigate for yourself.

If a bounty asks for a KYC, bounty hunters don't have a choice but to follow it or leave their rewards. They are in the midst of it having no other choice but to be forced to pursue the KYC just for the sake of the rewards. Well, if this has happened already not just this time and probably from some other projects in the past. For the bounty hunters, be always careful when choosing a bounty and the bounty manager. You can be on the same situation if you will not apply DYOR.

The clipX bounty was run by Bounty Detective - they guarantee thedistribution of awards, there is an inscription at the beginning of each program. I wonder what kind of compromise they will find between the hunters and Bounty Detective in this case.

This is an ongoing threat that bounty hunters are exposed to, and there is nothing you can do about it except for doing your own research initially and hope for the best. This is the cost of getting crypto for free.  

I'd disagree
It seems BountyDetective (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2695747) is very popular manager due to handle many bounties. Also most of bounty hunters said he's good and trusted manager even though he's pretty new [1] So, trusted nor new bounty managers won't prevent this kind issues... especially on Bounties.

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[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5264285.0

This is highly unfortunate, I was also going to participate in their campaigns because the project looked good but skipped because i was busy.
I think Bounty Detective should ramp up their due diligence before accepting a project as they were trusted initially but now they should feel under pressure because we have already seen some scam projects from them so if they want to stay competitive they need to come up with the best projects only.
Bounty hunters should be careful also and only select top quality projects to promote.

After kingcasino scam this is really bad from bounty detective to be honest, someother projects or campaigns they are doing also seem suspicious because they are delaying distribution and their exchange value is continuously decreasing on the exchanges due to high chance of team selling.
Definitely bounty detective needs to improve project selection criteria if they want to sustain and exist in this market for long time.

And now they are going to sell those documents and earn more money for themselves. Sad people just go around and throw their identity documents for just few bucks. It is like they don't really care if their identity gets stolen as long as they get paid!
It was already a red flag alert when they were asking for only passports as a valid document.
They can still runaway with your documents even if they have escrows. It is not about the rewards, it is about the safety of your identity.

Bounty hunters should observe and read all the rules, because some projects might abuse this particular rule including not to pay hunters. Like what happen to Payaccept the team sound suspicious and has a lot of excuses not to pay hunter after 3 months campaign.

The best rules should be:
Funds are escrowed or they should pay on weekly basis would be fair for everyone.

Thank you for bringing this up, it is already a repeat of what had happened to 2017:

1. Projects pulling an exit scam
2. Projects getting hack, resulting to investors losing their money
3. Projects asking for KYC and then exiting, taking all the personal info that could be sold in the dark web
4. Projects asking for ETH just to withdraw your so called bounties.

And there's more, so let this be another expensive lessons to bounty hunters, and too bad for those who have participated in this bounty. One day you might find out your data are being leaked and being used by cyber criminals.

I'm concerned about bounty projects that require KYC provision. It is worth mentioning that the value of the bonus, as well as the potential of that project, is worthy of sacrificing our KYC work.
Clipx is backed by  Bounty Detective, he's a reputable bounty manager. The mistake of stealing KYC belongs to the project.

Most often, rewards are not escrowed. And there is no use escrowing unknown tokens. Even if the team will stick it out with the project if they don't have any products developed those tokens will still be worthless.


Most bounty hunters are not doing due diligence, so whether they are in a rush or not does not matter because they are not doing research.
 

Bounty managers sometimes are also like bounty hunters. They are not doing careful research. As you said in your number 4.

It is not the fault of BM. He doesn't know the ulterior motives of those project owners. If they were asking for passport only, then something was really wrong. A legit project asking for KYC can accept even the Driver's License. Seems that they will sell those docs to the highest bidder. To the bounty hunters, please make sure that your sending your vital docs to legit companies. But sometimes, it is really hard to determine the status of the project at the start. Because even if they have licenses, they can still disappear, especially substandard licenses.

This is not good. Clearly a bad sign foe detective since asking kyc is not good. But let the hunters decide on their own. However, knowing they keep insisting on passport details are likely suspicious. For a bounty campaign, kyc isone thing I hate. Why the hell, needed it even you dont invest on the project? It does not make sense to ask for kyc and this is only applicable on investors to avoid money laundering.

I'd also try to read the project Terms and Conditions before joining them.
Don't give out your private information to strangers in the name of kyc. It's dangerous thing to do. If you must give, make sure they are accountable and "cannot" misuse or even access the information. There should be ways to verify people's identities without having full access to such sensitive information.

But they aren't exactly getting it for free, this is simply payment for a job well done for weeks some may last for months

I agree with you on that note,
I once had a friend whose wallet balance was emptied because she sent her sensitive informations to a guy she met on telegram since she was trying to sign up on a platform and he offered to help completes the process. And when she told me about it, there was nothing I could do since she already sent him the phrase code.

That's is the reasons why you need to protect your self and do not give any of your important  document to any company  or websites that asking it, just because you want to earn money its not secured  thinking and your identity is at risk and can also be use for  illegal activities .

Now we don't have any idea what they are planning to do for documents they collected  . Even how you trust the manager or the owner of  the project it doesn't mean you can also trust your details to them. There are many warnings already given by many professionals member here for the KYC procedure and give warning that is not secured.

When we want to join in one campaign, we need to ask about KYC, and if they require us to fills KYC, we don't need to join with them because we don't know if they can protect our document or not.
It is about the private document that we will send to them, and once we send it to them, we don't know what will happen later.
Checking everything will be necessary before we join with them, so we know if they can be trust or not, and we can avoid the scam.
But still, we might get another scamming project in the future, and we need to be careful.

Yes, but the problem is that it was not announced from the start of the campaign even though the hunters researched it very thoroughly, the KYC was implemented when the project was over, so hunters were forced to complete it in order to get their reward.

there was already the information from the start that the campaign did not require KYC from the bounty manager. but from the development team if asked then it's beyond the control of the bounty manager.
It is very unfortunate that finally, a project ran again with KYC data from campaign participants. Looking at the spreadsheet, it turns out that many participants also joined the campaign, surely many were disappointed by one month's wasted work.

As far as I know when bounty detective said if that was guaranteed that means if the reward has already distributed to the manager and I know that from the arcs bounty too as the reward has already escrowed to the manager but the problem is when the project didn't wanna to continue the development progress and how the token will be valuable? it will be a worthless token too.

I'm glad I have not joined in this scam project. So many members have sent their passport.

This will definitely damage the reputation of the Bounty Detective bounty management service, I was just reading in their telegram group and there were a lot of complains, some people complained of not updating spreadsheets for a long time while some campaigns are taking a longtime for distribution or sending in small batches which is annoying the hunters.
Looks like they are losing the way or have lost interest somewhat in campaigns now. They have to protect the interest of the bounty hunters to stay in the market.

This is very unfortunate results for a bounty promotion, ClipX is collected our KYC data and suddenly shutting down the project, In the first place, if they are planning to discontinue the project they should not require any KYC for its participants, I believe its a planned execution of events Bounty Detective should be partly blamed for this incident.

I am also a participant in the campaign for only one week. but I don't think that's part of the bounty manager's fault. wrong when they promote a scam project. However, from the situation that appeared, a big mistake was deliberately made by the team by bringing away KYC documents from campaign participants.
I have not had time to fill out KYC, because I am still confused and not sure if someone filled out KYC with personal documents, some filled in with passports. I am grateful that I didn't have the chance to fill in KYC when the project was finally stopped.

When I'm still participating in altcoin bounty campaign, I remember one project where I gave my personal information (at least an ID and a selfie of it) in order to get the rewards and it was Quarkchain bounty campaign. Luckily there is nothing wrong happened (at least for now) :D.

We don't know what can they do with this personal details that ClipX did but one thing is for sure, bounty hunters who fell to this trap will never do KYC again for a small bucks. I hope that other bounty hunters will not do the same that they will give personal information to some random shits for a few cents.

As for the Campaign Manager, even though he don't know this to happen or he know it his reputation as a campaign manager will affected by what happened.

Cilpx has issued a notice regarding the cancellation of their distribution and the continuation of their project. This is a valuable lesson for managers in this case Bounty Detective.

The basic question is, why do Bounty participants send their KYC data? because they have to follow the terms and conditions that have been set to get a reward for their work and this is inseparable from the Bounty Detective statement regarding payment guarantees for each campaign they manage. My opinion, confirmation and explanation from the owner are also important to know related to this campaign in the Channel Information&Announcement.

yes, I hope this will provide a valuable experience for all of us bounty hunters in providing our documents. a project that could just as easily go and carry the documents we provide. of course we will not know what the document will be used for in the future. be careful.

for the bounty manager of course this will affect his reputation. Moreover, some of the projects he has worked on look scam.

to be honest I am also disappointed with the bountydetective manager for bringing scamed projects into this forum, such as Clipx, terracredit, kingcasino some of these projects ended with scams. but all of this comes back to each of us because we choose, so, I no longer depend on the famous gift manager.

I think it is better to join a project that the reward is a guarantee to receive like escrow. If a bounty reward is escrowed, the manager has right enough but where the reward is with the team, then they can keep introducing new stuff not included in the contract. I believe the bounty managers are learning.

The bounty section need to be cleaned up, scam is increasing.

Deeply we can not differentiate between Good and Bad projects. In start KYC was not needed but at the end of the projects they asked for kyc. Even the project is looking Good we should not go through kyc. Mainly Hunters do work most on sharing etc and  do not Research on own.

There's only a problem with the bounty detective as the team was calculating the reward based on the ico price which can be considered as a very bad thing for sure.
So far, some of their bounties are legit and they have already distributed it to the participants too. '

Those projects have become scam projects at the middle of the campaign. that's the risk as a manager when you are working under new companies who have already tried to start its journey.

Fully agree with you and thanks to concern us. Nowadays many bounty programs scam after collecting personal documents. I have betrayed by a couple of bounties. After those harassment I am completely conscious before joining any bounty. Hope you all do that same.

In every new project of bountydetective promise that distribution is confirmed by bountydetective. There is another problem after the Kingcasino campaign. For a huge hunters bountydetective campaign distributed only a few dollars. Right, bounty detectives should escrow for a new campaign and limit for hunters. I think bounty detective manager is trusted enough.

This is the first bounty campaign managed by BountyDetective that becomes suspicious.

To the escrowed funds, do not fall into an idea, that bounty managers are good in escrow. When they receive 2-3000USD for managing bounty campaigns and now they escrow funds worth more than 100 000USD, what would you do?  :)

I received a message from ClipX to my email address, stating that my documents that I provided to KYC were removed and, in addition, they accordingly wrote thanks for participating in their company. I understand that this message is not trusted, as there is no guarantee that they deleted my personal information.

I also heard complaints from my friends about the ClipX bounty being handled by the bounty detective, they asked for KYC when the campaign was over and it was very sneaky. I advised him not to do KYC because it really didn't make sense. Bounty detective was also seen defending bounty hunters but they couldn't do it any further. Everything is left to the project team.

I already thought this would be a bad thing, they asked the bounty hunters to do KYC when the bounty was done. I protested and asked their group why they did that, but no one responded and I was immediately blocked

What is important is the credibility of the project, even if the bounty manager pays the project coins in full it will look like a landfill. No investor wants to invest in a project with a bad reputation.

Yes this is not fault of BM but one of their admin also emphasize that hunters need to take KYC as per the project team required so I think there is also a liability in the part of bounty detective because you know hunters work hard to earn and if a project required KYC then they have no choice either to take it or leave their rewards. It's really so sad that there are projects that does't care about the hunter. Hoping that those documents will not be use in a dark web and the people behind it will have fear and conscience.

Don't take their word for it. I guess the scumbag ClipX guys sent that out because someone from the Bounty Detective team wrote them with a threat of a lawsuit for their misdemeanor. A lot of people got that same message as reported on the telegram group but I am cocksure the submitted KYC documents are still in the scammer's database. It's a common practice with fraudulent projects. They steal KYC documents and then sell them to the darknet for money. If until September 15th the ClipX gang still asked hunters for KYC, knowing well that they weren't going on with the project, what then makes you still think they've wiped off your data from their database?

Did ClipX raised something? Just curious what was their plan on the first place. Grab some ethereum from silly investors or to get user personal data.

This is like third or fourth scam campaign under Bounty Detective management? Guess there will be more. That is why BD do not run new campaign, because they wait what will be the result of their past campaigns and how it will reflect on reputation.

Correct. Even the token rewards will be distributed there's still no
value for any project once there's no investors that will be 'willing to
support the project.

Always do your DYOR not even the project was handled by known BM the chance of not wasting your tie still possible.

I am personally sad to read this news Again, the bounty handled by the bounty detective ended in disappointment maybe a lot of people are attracted to ClipX bounties because of the large allocation and short bounty duration fortunately for me not interested in ClipX and spared this danger

Many bounty hunters have put their trust in the Clipx project. And now the project team can use the data of the bounty hunters. It is very difficult to immediately define a project, and you need to trust all projects. Bounty hunters can always fall into the hands of scammers and must be very careful with their passport details.

This is bad news for bounty hunters. We worked four weeks but results zero. Personally i research many times before joing any bounty campaign. I did many project of Bounty Detective group. I think they have no fault. it's not easy to say a project  will scam or successful.  Example many people said Hex project is scam. But at the end Hex was a successful projects.

This is really not good to crypto at this point. They came up as a very good platform and even involved Bounty Detective to handle the marketing aspect. They also didn't even explain what exactly happened.

Isnt this one a new thing as of today? This isnt something new and we had been telling this thing over and over again that KYC shouldnt really be asked in bounty hunters yet
these arent investors but only promoters or advertisers on such project and with that alone then you can say that its irrelevant to ask out such very important document.
This is why doing your own research is always suggested.Follow good and known Bounty managers rather than considering on joining into a bounty which only handled by
the project team itself.You can somewhat tell the difference when it comes to terms and its handling throughout the campaign. Bounty hunting turns out to be shit
wayback in couple of years but im surprised that there are who still get victimized even up to these days.

Well, if you handed over your KYC information willingly, I'm not quite sure how it's considered stealing?

For the most part, simply completing KYC doesn't mean you're going to get your tokens or be able to participate in the token sale—so how exactly were the bounty hunters robbed?

That said, the project should destroy their records, and provide evidence of this if not moving forward with their token sale. Otherwise I'm sure it will violate GDPR and the Data Privacy Act.

People are forgetting that data worths soooo much money that it is by itself a huge sector and you are the thing thats being sold. Look at facebook, twitter, instagram and all other places like that, they do not sell anything to you, you do not spend money using those platforms at all, but what do they do? They take all your information and sell it to marketing people so that you could see ads that are related to you. Google was the godfather of this, but facebook perfected it.

Basically all your info worths a lot of money to the right people who could utilize it to make more money from using that data. So, this company, stealing KYC data worths a ton of money, if they can find the right buyer for it they could sell it for countless amount of money and get super rich.

I am very surprised that bounty scams still exist today and what's worse, they had time to take data from the bounty hunter what a cruel ClipX project
they don't realize what the fate of bounty hunters will be if the data is misused of course it will harm them

Very sad to hear this happen to hunters, imagine wasting your time and money and still end up losing your personal data in the process, this method is similar to digitalbits, jinbi tokens,  this project also demand for hunters kyc even though they knew they won't pay hunters,  very bad behaviour from the team of this project.

I always skip any bounty that requires kyc for their hunters.  Since bounty hunters are not investors, authority does not ask about its KYC, only investors.  There are several legit and successful bounty campaign that does not require their bounty hunter to submit KYC because it is actually not needed unless this project is collecting people's identity and aim to sell them on the black market.

I heard that news today morning. few days ago saw that they are asking for KYC and I didn't submit the KYC. Because I don't want to share my personal identity. So my advice will be before submitting KYC try to think again. But bounty managers should take steps because he ran the campaign.

The exit scam is obviously the main case among the new altcoin projects, bounty hunters are the second group of people who deceived by the team after investors. Thinking twice before entering any projects as a participant no matter you are a bounty hunter or real investor can save the time&money in the long run.  Saving time and having a emotional stability will let the bounty hunter make a correct decision with a clean mind, otherwise jumping from X bounty to Y bounty will ruin his day.

Very solid advice but you probably left out the most important taking into account the topic at hand, do not give out your personal information to anyone over the Internet, and if they ask for it vehemently like this project then just forget about them and try to look for another bounty, and if you find out that now all bounties are asking for this kind of information then you need to stop bounty hunting and do something else because the risk your information is sold in the black markets is incredibly high if you keep doing this.

this is why sometimes kyc is so bad. it's our most important data that is handed over to these stranger and once they turn they could sell our data.
people should not hand over their important data if they don't trust or don't know about the project that demand KYC because big chance they gonna sell our kyc later on and we couldn't redo that once our data being sold at deepweb which is a very very bad news.

Bounty detectives were one of the most liked campaign managers in the BCT forum. It's really sad to see that they got scammed but, again that's the game in crypto because in every 10 projects 8 are turned out to be scams or dead projects.

I participate in almost every project of Bounty Detective; Most of their projects are successful. I don’t blame them for the ClipX Bounty project; But I think the reputation of Bounty Detective has been ruined just as much as we have been damaged.

That is one of the reasons I would never sacrifice my personal info for a meager reward. Everyone are worried that your personal information would be hacked from a centralized database and then you get projects like this that will legally collect the data and then just use it for the wrong reasons.

People do not understand the risk when they willingly give their KYC information to these projects.  >:(  <<TIP>> What I usually do to protect myself, is to make a copy of my original documents and then write the website details of the service that required it onto those documents, before I submit it.  (That way I can trace it back to it's source, if it was used illegally)  ;)

Funny because this kind of excuse is already used by so many people making bounty. asking KYC after the bounty was done I mean why don't ask it from the beginning of the campaign.

Scam will always exist but to steal personal information that's crucial is simply criminal. Imagine having our passport floating around in dark web this kind of scam, should be hunted down by cyber police tbh.

I will never believe in such things that they did "delete the KYC data" permanently. For me, I think they can just assume it to the community, but they have actually collected all personal data (including passport details) separately and may compile them to the dark web market.

It's a lesson learn to all bounty hunters. It's really ugly that after bounty campaign is over, they suddenly require them to submit KYC. Identity theft is really hard for us to manage, especially that you are wrongfully accused in doing fraudulent stuff.

What is most often done is when the beginning of the project was carried out in the rules it was stated the absence of KYC but again this mischievous behavior has often been done. after it is almost finished or finished, just provide information that KYC is needed, which is of course very dilemma as a bounty hunter because finally the deception occurs. I regret that there is no BM to provide assistance so that this is not done.
It is very regrettable that BM, which has quite a number of projects, can not think of things that can help bounty hunters by selecting accepted projects, not only because quantity takes precedence but quality is ignored and many are disadvantaged.

It's a shame that there is another scam against bounty hunters and investors. whereas, bounty detectives are quite selective in choosing bounties. however, I totally agree with the creator of this thread, that the safest way to avoid being scammed from something like this is to find a bounty that uses escrow for it. it's just that, at first glance, I see Clipx as a promising project. however, once again a project like this is quite difficult to identify.

I obviously agree with what you said that it is not easy to identify a project that can be successful or even become a scam. For the Clipx project, it seems a lot disappointed because many have given KYC but what was given did not reach the target because of the scam project, of course it will create confusion and separate questions with the KYC.

I actually disagree, BD seems to want to catch up on quality, many of the resulting projects are not satisfactory because the rewards given are not in accordance with what we have contributed.

 It's really sad that scam project are still operating in crypto space. Hope those who are behind those scam project will be punished. ClipX are based on Germany and I think Germany is strict in such activities. Hope ClipX team will be punished so that they can't use the data of the hunters and investors on their evil plan. I think it can be reported to the cyber crime department before they can proceed to their plan ,whatever is it. Even though they emailed that they already deleted all the documents but for me it was not 100% guaranty that they don't have copy of those documents before they send email. They are really smart!!!

to analyze the project it is difficult to distinguish a scam or not. the simplest is choosing the ones already on the market. it also doesn't necessarily get paid. it could be that the team breaks the promise or agreement that has been made.
In the case of Clipx, the bounty hunter should have realized because the KYC request was not done from the start. they announced after the campaign was over and told everyone to move to a new group and then disappeared. Moreover, the requested document is only a passport, of course, it makes a suspicion from the start.

^ we can't stop a scam project in the crypto space, we can just avoid it. even though the bounty detective is at the top but still can't escape the scam.

If it is true that this project is a scam, I am sorry about the participants. hopefully, they can patiently accept reality.

I have previously participated in a bounty program that he managed and managed to pay, although not much, but I was concerned after hearing that Kingcasino Scam and now ClipX. hmm, and what I don't like the Clipx team is really sneaky about getting KYC documents from bounty hunters without paying for their efforts that long. This case can be an important lesson for bounty hunters to always research again before joining the bounty program.

you do something good. it can be used as a warning to everyone or bounty hunters who want to join all existing campaigns. not all projects held by the manager can be successful. however, how to handle and manage regulations must be well enforced and can be followed by all campaign participants.

That escrowed bounty rewards should be mandatory if we really want to have a fair campaign where everyone will benefit. When the rewards are escrowed, the only thing you need to hope for is the price of the token when it listed in the crypto market. Because even though we secured the rewards we won't really know if the project will reach the market after the sales. Because there are some scenarios where those tokens won't even have a price after so many years have been passed after it sent to our wallet.

After this bounty manager had successfully managed some good project, it is normal to promote such fake project because at the beginning of the negotiations, you can't really tell if they telling the truth or not because they when they talked, you really think that they are serious with their projects until something like this will happen. Good luck for the participants and tell the manager to consider escrowing the rewards next time to avoid loss such as this one.

Well, honestly I don't think the BM deserved to be tagged for that (at least not now, except we can prove a case that BD is a part of the ClipX team). Otherwise, tagging BD is for me too harsh a decision. From BD's claim, said to have argued it out with the ClipX team to drop the idea of a KYC. It's also a loss for them. I think BD also innocently fell prey to ClipX too. However, I believe it should've stood its ground and warned hunters not to go ahead with the KYC

Nevertheless, I opened that thread so that innocent participants can be brought to the knowledge of what dangers lie in exposing their private data to bounty projects and also of what a scam the ClipX team turned into. Nobody should expose their passports, no matter how enticing the bounty seems. As hunters, we should avoid any bounty that demands a KYC that is more that a validation of email addresses.

Bounty detective remain respectful to me, even though CLIPX deceived many community in crypto space. Even Bounty Detective has nothing to do with it. And We cannot blame most bounty hunters if they submit their KYC due to they gave trust on it. Only the problem is that the CLIPX theft the identity of most of the bounty hunters. This was a learned a lesson to me.

I'm still waiting to get concrete information on them, I don't think that project has an iota of truth. I was participating on there Bounty campaign, I noticed some things on their social channels.

• The Admin don't respond on the Telegram group.
• Refused to update their Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn for months and wanted Bounty/marketing to be effective
• ICO without update
• They decided to launch KYC at the end of Bounty

Another one story of exit scam in bounty. Looks like it's much safer to not participate in them at all

promise upon promises yet no payment, that is how he has been guaranteeing us about his bounties.
he has managed so many project but refuses to pay the hunters.

I was always surprised when, at the slightest problem, they start writing as if the end of the world had come. And I also don't like it when they start blaming the bounty participants. You write that there is no need to rush, but how do you know that the project is a scam? correctly, only when you yourself take part in it or read the news. I think I need to say thank you to the bounty participants who took part in the ClipX bounty and were able to bring this project to clean water. It seems to me that this situation has once again shown that the work of the bounty participants is not appreciated and every time they try to blame. Why isn't anyone looking for ClipX organizers? Why are there not enough accusatory words against them? It seems to me that in such a situation you need to be more objective.

It would be nice to actually sue ClipX. Perhaps this would be a precedent for similar situations. Perhaps due to this, we have become less likely to meet scammers and theft of personal information. But it is very difficult to predict how much this idea has come true.

They are somewhat making a way that every bounty participant will hate him. The bounty manager can't be solely to blame because he/they are just the manager but they should also have to take care of their participants. Though things like this aren't new to us but it was of desperation to see that many we've still become a victim to this kind scheme. What they are doing now, is literally showing that they can't be trusted..

Well, I have little sympathy for those who throw around their own data as if it were candy at carnival...

At best, never give your data anywhere... because that is not the aim of Bitcoin and Co.
And everybody who does it nevertheless, and completes as many bounties as possible (many of them with KYC) should not be surprised, that his sensitive data will end up in the hands of criminals...
These SCAM bounties never get less, they become more sophisticated and professional!

Watch your money and BEFORE EVERYTHING watch your data...

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Best Regards

Another project exist scam this is very unfortunate for those participants who participated in this bounty and did kyc too now bounty participants will have to be more aware and they must choose those bounties very carefully in which kyc is required or it's better don't participate in this kind of bounties where kyc is required because these days it's very difficult to find out the difference between genuine and scam projects.

I knew there was something fishy going on when they came up with the KYC idea for every participants. That's why though being a good stake holder of that campaign, I didn't went through the KYC. If they were genuine, they would not have called it off a failed fundraising after gathering KYC info of users.

you know in bounty, it's optional for us to run our research about the project we are going to participate. In main time, we don't have to lay blame anyone or bounty manager as he may communicate well with them at the starting but later run the team might compromise causing the BM not trustworthy of his words concerning the project. some project may lately request for KYC after some much reasons. so if the project runaway doesn't from the bounty manager because he was given assurance based on recent communication with project team etc.

I really hate the bounties that require a KYC just to get the reward that hunters work for,
I know it is part of their policy and hunters could always ignore it and they are implementing it to lessen the bounty abuse but I still feel uneasy about it,\
And this is the main reason why I don't trust KYC now what would happen to those personal information that has been sent to them we don't even know where would they use it,
Maybe instead of earning in bounty we might be indebt because they would use our personal information to borrow or scam on other people.

This can be the problem in joining the bounty as there is no assurance that the project is legit in the end. Even the bounty manager assured by the team that’s not a hundred percent true. Also, this is why I’m not joining bounty that requires kyc.

This is very unfortunately, why did they accept the KYC submissions in the first place if they planned to shut down the project ?
They should announce that they won't continue the project and not requiring hunters to submit KYC docs.
And now, hunters who submitted the data are afraid if the team use their data or sell it on dark web.

Maybe because they raised not much during sales and decided to obtain and sell hunters private data on black market. Generally there was nothing behind that project and the team decided to squeeze maximum from it.
They simply can use hunters data and participate in airdrops that pays around 5$ to participant. 

Very unfortunate for those who submitted their KYC docs. This is the problem with projects asking for KYC, we don't know what they will do with the docs, they can easily sell it to the black market or use it for other purposes where they can rake money. For users out there, don't just send your KYC to a project especially if it is only for airdrop or something.

I've made a post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5254282.msg55217606#msg55217606) about my deep check in this ClipX project.

However, it would be difficult once they participate in other project that requires KYC, they can't just simply upload the passport, but requiring them to take a selfie with or without the passport with a bond paper mentioning the company name and date.

Although they've stolen passport data, but it would be difficult for them to cloning the passport as it was equipped with RFID, etc., that would be impossible for them to replace our photo.

It's kinda worrying that they are gonna sell the stolen identities potentially to the black market. I don't know if there's an existing identity theft protection services in any country. If we are too worried about it, we could seek consultation to the Department of Foreign Affairs telling them everything that our passport details are stolen.

I’m more than sure that photoshop professionals can use any kind of passport to make them fake and use for cheating. I would suggest to add watermarks to passport scan. This wont help for 100%, but it will take editors more time to make your passport “clean” and cheaters might not even use your passport to safe time.

I was already suspicious of the high bounty allocation ClipX project and its short duration made me ask questions what's up with the ClipX project
and all have been proven the goal is only to steal the bounty hunter data and then just walk away, My advice is to be more careful before joining the bounty don't let this incident happen again

you are right these bounty management companies looting bounty hunters and sell there KYC to other companies and risk the privacy of bounty hunters. we must consider bounty which comes with escrow system.

Sadly for bounty hunters working on the clipX project they tried to support the project and ended up getting nothing.
Personally, I have had many of the same experiences, I worked on bounty programs for many weeks and eventually they disappeared.

It's still unfortunate that projects are asking for Passport verification from the bounty participants as there are many more ways to verify the their identity. And in the case of Clipx, the already knew they were below the cap and yet they went through collecting data from users. It would be no wonder if there's a news that they didn't returned any money to the investors. Users ans investors themselves needs to be aware to protect themselves from such scam attempts.

Me, myself was part of that campaign and do that KYC and I am hoping that clipx project developer will not use the data they gathered to every bounty hunters. I strongly agreed to the following advise that you have said and I will take note of it for future references.

That is why I am hesitant on joining anything or doing anything that requires KYC. Your personal information and even Identification can be used in fraud without you knowing. Better DYOR before joining any projects and make sure to read all the requirements and rules. Protect your identity as much as possible.

our personal document not worth to substitute with our bounty reward, moreover at this moment bounty token reward have less value . most of them now below $100 and even some of less. personal document must kept carefully cause if this on wrong hand could sold in darkweb or abused for bad goals.

Yes I agree. If I have choice to ignore them even the campaign have huge amount of reward in their pocket. I will not hesitate to not to join them. I just give my personal data if I know that its already registered in our country. Its hard to trust in a project especially if their own project team are not even present in their website and whitepaper.

all bounty and airdrop hunters must have thoughts like you. but sometimes many people are looking for fake data to do KYC. but if what is requested is a passport I think it will be difficult to manipulate. It's a shame that some bounty hunters have been tricked and filled their KYC for a scam project.

The rules/advice you have stated here is enough already, people have to be careful with the kind of bounties they are participating in. And newbies should always try to do their research and know they are getting themselves into, some of them are usually in a hurry to make money through bounty campaigns and they forget to calm down and learn everything that’s really happening in the forum.

There are always lots of scammers and they never stop, they keep on coming up with new ideas everyday to scam people, it’s the work for them and they are always doing it, so it’s left for us to be careful and avoid them.

Project that requires participants his bounty are accustomed to kyc to avoid a duplicate account , if not kyc then participants will not find his right a gift , so how does get around him if like that ?

yes, but in this case the bounty hunters were not to blame either. usually a project can change the rules at any time even if it includes about KYC to claim their token at the end of the project. otherwise, bounty hunters won't be able to get the project token reward either.

This is one of the reasons many people stops hunting, denying hunters their due rewards even after stealing their information is something very bad, working for a month, also undergoing KYC process and all to no avail shows how cruel this crypto space is becoming. I just hope escrow will be introduced for all new bounties soon, that's the only thing I think can stop all this.

I knew something wasn't right when I learnt of their request for KYC documents, it was obvious that they had an ulterior motive when the document required for KYC was passport specifically. Its quite unfortunate especially for those who were willing to give out their kyc documents for such a dubious project.

Thank you very much for your precious information .I did not participate in those bounty campaigns who wants kyc verification to receive rewards because kyc verification can be too risky for anyone as our submitted document can be used in bad way and we can be trapped. I was also participated in ClipX bounty, as there were no kyc first But after campaign ends they asked for kyc to have our rewards .It feels suspious to me and i did not submit my document.

It's true. Almost every campaign stipulates that the team can change the rules at any time, and very often this applies to KYC verification. And then the bounty hunters find themselves in a desperate situation - either submit documents and pick up the rewards, or following several months of work be left with nothing.

looks bad if a project requires participants to send their personal data (KYC) to get a project token reward, especially if it turns out that the project ended with scams or didn't pay after submitting KYC, this is disappointing. I think bounty hunters should be wise in choosing a project and not just look at it from the point of view of big rewards.

I don't think bounty detective team has ever managed any hugely successful project, most end up a scam or fail. Most of the time I don't blame the development team but the bounty hunter, some people just join campaign because of the promise of huge returns, there are only few good bounty manager left in the space the remain are just chasing shadows

Really sad development.
Clipx seemed to be good project, I actually liked their website and all the fine details about the project there.
It is unfortunate that we still have to face such scam projects and definitely greed and bad intentions from people behind these projects result in such things.
The bottom line is that we have to face such projects no matter how good you are at due diligence, so just move on and try to find a better project.

Well if a KYC is necessary for a bounty than it's always a little bit worrying for me, but if you want to be a part of such a bounty there is nothing you can do about it.
But i would never join a bounty of a shitcoin that i never heard of before if a KYC would be mandatory there.
The bounty im in right now also demands KYC but at least it's a old and well known project. Still a little worrying but well it is like it is.

Honestly what annoys me most is requesting for kyc from hunters even when they already know they won't pay, I think before a team will organize a project and conduct a bounty they already evaluate the pros and cons of the project, incase no success what will happen to hunters or no need for kyc incase project fails to achieve the goal, such a terrible thing to do.

yes, That is one of the reasons I would never sacrifice my personal info for a meager reward. Everyone are worried that your personal information would be hacked from a centralized database and then you get projects like this that will legally collect the data and then just use it for the wrong reasons.
and again, bountydetective is getting another scamed project besides Kingcasino and Terracredit. now ClipX

it was obvious that clipx was a scam with no intention to develop their project. they claimed they have sold ALMOST 60% of their token but all is Fake just to draw attention and people failed for it. i did the airdrop and they requested for kyc for airdropers. that was where i knew something was wrong. they are not sincere. although i did the bounty i did not participate in the KYC.

we don't have to lay blame anyone or bounty manager as he may communicate well with them at the starting but later run the team might compromise causing the BM not trustworthy of his words concerning the project. some project may lately request for KYC after some much reasons. so if the project runaway doesn't from the bounty manager because he was given assurance based on recent communication with project team etc.

There is a risk when you give your ID to the third party, no matter it is an exchange, bounty manager or any other crypto service. That´s why many people do not participate in KYC required bounty campaigns, but there is no other option on how to reduce the number of multi account bounty abusers.

This is becoming a recurring issue. This used to happen too much for my liking during the 2018 run and it seems to be popping up now again. Be vary careful if a bounty asks for KYC and don't provide it unless you are very sure about the legitimacy of the project.

I agree with the given negative trust. They were blinded by money and forgot to research and manage only high-quality campaigns. The paradox is that you can´t join their campaigns when you have negative trust.  :D It would be nice to watch closely how they behave in the next few weeks - if they do not exit scam.

Whatever the current perception, what is clear is that they have experienced a scam and regarding KYC for bounty participants, the team never informed the bounty manager about this from the start, so the participants felt a little depressed when suddenly the KYC problem was implemented which eventually experienced a scam

Well I do not see a compelling reason for asking bounty hunters to be KYC, they are not the investors in the project so it is completely pointless to KYC (whose purpose is mainly to prevent money laundering). . And there are hundreds of ways to get a fake profile for KYC. So always consider before participating in such projects.

I participated in ClipX bounty program and for eligibility of the bounty rewards I have completed my KYC. I couldn't understand they are steeling my information. I am afraid of this incident. I have lost my rwards as well as disclosed my personal information.  It is one of my lessons.   

Obviously this is a very good lesson for you, because in the past there has also been this kind of thing and not even just once, I have seen in the past many projects that made KYC requirements for campaign participants which in the end they experienced a scam, and to make matters worse, the project team did not provide KYC information at the start of the campaign.

Nowadays bounty hunters are been taken for granted,after they completed all the required task for the project bounty for about 4weeks or so, it turned out to be a scam, and the worst part was stealing the identity of so many bounty hunters," why would they ask for a kyc when they were not gonna continue with the project", I really feel for those bounty hunters, I think its high time bounty hunters stop participating in bounties that require kyc to receive the project token, and they should only participate when the bounty is been organized by a reputable BM.

The lesson here is that when entering these MMOs, especially this crypto market, personal information is one of the very important data that you must keep secret. We don't know what purpose they'll use it for. So for those bounty that require KYC I will ignore it.

I have participated in the maximum projects managed by bounty detective. They are so cooperative, quick updater, friendly telegram support group. I have received maximum payment from the projects managed by them whether it is small or few dollars. Clipx project cheated with us as they didn't mentioned kyc from the first and after the completing bounty, they asked kyc from the hunters and finally they shut down the project. Bounty detective support in the telegram advised us kyc is your own risky and they cut relation with the project for such new rules. Now it is very sad that they got in trapped unfortunately.

They are worst. They should not asking for KYC data to bounty hunters because they want to shut the project later.
Im afraid that they will use the data for something bad, hopefully it won't happening.
My suggestion is, don't join the campaign that have some unclear rules. KYC rule should be announced at the beginning of the campaign.

Wow!
This bounty detective needs to be stopped, They could do nasty things with those IDs , poor people didn't get anything and left their KYC here?
I would not join any campaign without a trustworthy bounty manager with at least a hero member rank , And some weak bounty managers need to be stopped.

It's unfortunate that I also participated in this bounty.

I agree, do not provide your documents without verify, there is a lot of scammers that just collect our personal documents and data and sell it for money.

LOl! Haven't you seen some bm with red trust and still apply the rules of not accepting hunters with red trust in their campaign, I don't think having a red trust will make any difference to them, they will simply carry on the same way they use to operate even before the tag. Although I don't think they are entirely to blame since it is not very easy to fully know a project.

see the rule, if there is kyc, I suggest canceling the join first and looking for a bounty that doesn't use kyc. Then, I have a suggestion if you want to find a bounty with a trusted manager, namely Bubbalex and Bounty Detective. it can be taken into consideration and comparison.

I dont really trust a project who require the participants to comply in kyc (specially this one with passport document only rule) unless it is proven to be legit and has a working product and trusted transparent team with reputable manager managing their bounties.

This should be a lesson to hunters who often look for the potential rewards they can get and not looking for the whole project itself. Dont trust easily by complying to their kyc because it might get compromise if you happen to participate in a scam project.

Yes, personal documents are things that must always be maintained properly, so if a project team asks for personal documents for the shitcoin reward they will give, the participants also have to think twice about this, especially if the project is a scam and a token have no value at all.

I knew it all along that this ClipX is just another scam project. Good thing I did not put myself into greed in joining multiple bounties.

Also, I notice with Bounty Detectives that they just accept any projects that applies to them and they don't care at all to the bounty hunters who suffers the most.

Those stolen KYC information will probably be sold to third parties for many uses.

The good part is that ClipX did return the investors funds as stated. (But not sure if they have fully refunded every investor.)

This should serve a lesson to all bounty hunters, newbies and oldies, that one must do intensive research before joining a bounty campaign.

If we actually talk about the Clip X Project, then from the very beginning of the Bounty Company nothing foreshadowed trouble and no information was in this project a fraud. In addition, at first the Bounty Company was mentioned about the absence of KYC. Everything happened very quickly, when, after the end of the bounty, the companies quickly demanded to provide KYC and immediately after the end of this period they announced the closure of the project. Many people say that the purpose of these scammers was to steal the user's passport data, but was it really necessary to choose such a too complicated path in order to steal personal data?

there could be two issues to address, first, he wanted to save data, each participant did not know what to do, but behind that he actually wanted to see how many decided they would indeed give KYC, because usually when it comes to KYC, many have resigned, but maybe this is nothing backwards so that the goal to dredge from resigning is not achieved and it is better to cancel the project that is the safest.

Highly agree, especially to number 1.

Bounty hunters should always participate only to bounty with the escrowed rewards, most of the time, bounty campaigns always try to run before they even launched without giving the rewards of the bounty hunters. They always take advantage of their work and continue doing it over and over again.

It's fishy in the first time, I was sending same Picutre on the KYC Telegram Bot and get accepted. Lucky me didn't send whole document to them, Even i receive email and i think you guys too about Delete document, I'm not sure if that document it's entirely deleted. Well, I hope they didn't use that for bad purpose, Be careful!

they cant milk the hunters so the hardwork of promoting and the kyc is the only thing that they can scam but not for the investors because they got scammed double  . that is money and kyc .

obtaining a kyc is hard , they cant think of other ways apart from this and its worth it because kyc is verry valueable . changing rule can be an indication for hunters that there is something thats not right and by that they should not give what the team is asking for  .

Previously, I had planned to join the ClipX project, but I didn't because I was suspicious of their project, after asking a few questions about the project but ended up getting banned by the project team. this made me go and avoid the ClipX project.

when you decide not to proceed to the project then it is a very smart move because you can avoid such a scam and suspicious project, make this an important lesson for you so that in the future you can determine a potential and very good project that can provide you profit.

This is very sad, after ClipX managed to collect KYC data for Bounty Hunters and suddenly closed the project. supposed, if they are planning to stop the project, they shouldn't need any KYC for the participants, I believe it was the execution planned from the start. Bounty Detective's reputation begins to tarnish.

Overall the bounty from the Bounty Detectives team was very disappointing, I was part of the campaign and they delayed distribution for no apparent reason. It seems that they also do not have specific criteria in selecting projects that are managed and rely solely on "guaranteed payment". For KYC, give only for legitimate projects or keep your identity, don't give it to anyone.

Bounty detectives are not connected with KYC and IDs. ClipX are the one to blame. They asked to pass it, while in BD bounty topic they wrote that hunters don't need to pass KYC.

It was said like thousand times, bounty managers rank is not a guarantee of success. Its account can be hacked, bought or BM itself can be seduced with money.

Hunters could join any project, managed by bounty manager of any rank, with out without escrow. But before joining they must do a research of a project they are going to promote.

I don't think it's all bad. yes, I did participate in the manager's failed campaign too. but some still pay and are even listed on exchanges. because of the failure of some projects you think the whole project will be bad. when we decided to join the project then we had to accept all the consequences. I realized I also made mistakes, I was also disappointed. but I was more aware that it was a risk I had to accept.

As a bounty hunters, we should be wise especially in times where our credentials are in the stake. I really hate KYC even if the bounty managers or project
owners are doing it just to get rid of spammers and cheaters.

There are many ways to get rid of them but asking for KYC is too much especially if the project is still 50/50 whether it can reach to an exchange or not.
We should learn from this and make sure that we should be wiser in the upcoming bounties that we like to participate with as there will be more project that are the same to ClipX project. 

Its too disappointing especially when I join this bounty for a month and without telling us that KYC process is needed for this bounty from the very start we, bounty hunters feel safe but the moment when the bounty is near to end it suddenly as for KYC process when many of us have done because we thought that they well pay us. Only to find out they are a scam, bogus and fake project. I am totally angry but I hope they are true to what they have said that all our informations from the national ID we use are deleted from their database.

I feel sorry for fellow bounty hunters who sent their KYC documents in to them.
This is why we should not join bounty which requires identification of the hunters.
The rules about KYC requirements must be clear, so the hunters who accept the risk can proceed to join the bounty.

I'm also losing confidence from some bounty managers, although we don't rely on bounty managers. Bounty detective manager is losing trust in this kind of situation like kingcasino and Clipx. Clipx is now almost failing projects. Actually bounty detective manager should follow the escrow process.

Lucky for you mate But honestly I was afraid that my data was used for something bad, but thanks to the Bounty Detective Team immediate action once and for all they prove that they are competent by pushing hard the ClipX team to delete all of the KYC data that they were collected from us and finally I received an email from ClipX and saying that my KYC data was deleted for me it was a relief.  

Bad news is they are not going to delete those documents they are now their possession, they can do anything on these documents even selling this in the black market 

You can never tell you have no control on this people on what they will do because these documents are worth a lot could reach thousands of dollars in the black market.

Yes, i agree with you. ClipX bounty ended all their activities. And then they told us to  do KYC. When the KYC was over, they Said their bounty  wouldn’t  continue. They cheated on us.

Hmm, I'm feeling a little bit skeptical regarding this matter. You know, it was so easy make a public apology and tell that they already deleted it. But in reality, you can't get rid of the possibility that they made an extra copy of it and just waiting for the issue to be forgotten before using it on their advantage. Don't get me wrong, I'm not spreading hate, scaring you or whatsoever; I'm just not fully convinced that they really erased all the vital info they gathered from you and all of the participants. I hope I'm all wrong, I hope I'm just overthinking :-\.

Next time don't ever join a bounty which requires sensitive info like that for you to be safe when things get f*cked up. Or much better if you will finally stop chasing sh*tcoins.

ClipX was escrowed by bounty detective team, I remember turning away from the project because it looks like a scam project to me, bounty detective isn't very good with legit project and I don't blame the BM, it's hunters duty to do research and make the right choices, the only reliable bounties from bounty detective this year so far is ARCS and HEX, you need to be careful with projects from bounty detective

Bounty detective is a trusted bounty manager but still have a lot to learn, there is assurance of getting paid if you join any projects from bounty detective, the only problem is they don't choose projects carefully.

There was a time where I gave up on my rewards from bounty projects because they asked for KYC which wasn't part of the rules right from the start, im sure that all data will be sold online to others, bounty detective isn't a good bounty manager, most of their projects failed this year, you need to do deep research before promoting any bounty project or you will easily end up wasting your time and energy

All the advise you gave are really helpful I just hope they will heed to them, well here's my advice to them, never disclose or share your personal information with any project in order to receive rewards after you have participated in their bounty campaign, don't give out your private data in the name of kyc.

If it's about following a trusted bounty manager, just so you know the bounty was handled by bounty detectives,and we all know their reputation precedes them,it's not their first bounty campaign here either, cus they have managed so many bounties on this forum, they slipped out this time, thats why I no longer trust them "fully", they should at least paid those bounty hunters who did all their best to make sure the project was successful :-\.

That's the danger you always have to accept when you give your KYC. I also do mine at a very limited set of sites, mostly because I really need them and have no choice, BUT I know no matter what they say about security I know one day if they decide to they can steal it, and I can't do nothing about it.

Not to mention all the sites we do use and who probably steal our data without us knowing. Things really need to change we need a GDPR replica for Asia!

When he joined ClipX bounty campaign under Bounty Detective management, it was mentioned in rules that passing KYC is not necessary. So he joined bounty without any allusion it would turn to be scam.

But what he did wrong, was to pass KYC when bounty ended. Team asking to pass KYC to get bounty reward is the first sign of scam. He might still continue "chasing sh*tcoins", as according to Does bounty still kind of worth on 2020? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5263914.0;topicseen), bounties still can be profitable. But one must really dig in to find a gem.

This is the importance of doing research first before deciding to take part in bounty projects, because you cannot always rely
on the Bounty Manager. And it is also not recommended to take part in bounty projects that apply KYC, because it is very possible
for data theft to occur as has been done by the ClipX project. Moreover, airdrops that require KYC procedures are clearly avoided
in my opinion. Because very small rewards are obtained from Airdrops, it is not worth it to be exchanged with our personal data.

It's already a sign of scam but he won't accept it and he still believe that the project was still legit so he continue doing a kyc but unfortunately the suspicion of scam is really true . Now he lost his data along with his rewards ,it's a double loss now.  People are so obsessed on shitcoins because they think that they can be rich with it , well we all wanted to get rich but we can do it in a safer way or a surer way  . The other user received an email ? And he is confident that what the email are saying was true ? What if they are lying and they still have the users data .

Asking for kyc at the end of the campaign (despite its not in rules) just to get the rewards are really shady. Now you're turn to comply or forget your rewards, but ask yourself if this project is worth to give your details in order to get your rewards.

We know its not easy to find a good project as well as not easy to earn but dont risk your personal details for a small amount and still not certain if they will really give it or if it has value once become listed in exchanges.

It is really funny because the whole idea of ClipX was silly. In short, what ClipX really wanted to be? Another clone of youtube basically. Where users pay for watching content without ads. Even free-to-watch youtube clones die. But they wanted to create a paid one, and raise funds via token sale? So they have only the idea and not working project? And people believe in this and agreed to pass KYC.

*sigh"

i participated in Clip X airdrops and they made it clear in the airdrop that they will demand for KYC. I pulled out from the airdrop because of the KYC. when they launch their bounty with bounty detective, i sense there will be a misunderstanding due to the KYC issue and it happened. they requested for KYC after Bounty and i pulled out again.

1. Escrowed bounties are still not that common today
2. Not all escrowed bounty projects are safe, you can still get cheated or scammed
3. The best advice is to follow bounty managers that are very reliable ,high reputations are very important to BMs like Bubbalex, Hhampuz etc
4. The Main problem about bounties are inexperienced bounty managers, they are the right cure standing between promoters and the project team

This is hard to the ones who already submitted their documents. Bounties nowadays are not so lucrative and having to subject to kyc for some start ups is kinda scary.

While uncommon, some bounty manager have been doing it for a long time. Escrow is necessary to secure payment for all participant and seem fair to everyone. There are many complaint coming from bounty hunter that they are not being paid as promised during the campaign, which is not very good to sustain. Although the fund held by the escrow (token or coin) do not necessarily have a price, at least the participant has received a guarantee from the manager or escrow to be paid.

All bounty hunter must consider all aspect before they join the bounty. Reliable manager often manage good and potential campaign. They carry out due diligence before inviting participant to promote, and BM positive reputation is believed to help many bounty hunter find potentially successful project.

I know this bounty rules 'not kyc required' then why later finish bounty team want kyc system. I can say that the project team here has implemented the kyc idea to cheat because the hunter will not get their token. However I was skeptical of this project from the beginning so i did not participate in their bounty.

Very very disappointed to hear the news that the Bounty participants were victims of project fraud.  But this is not the only Bounty participants have become victims of fraudulent projects, because previously there was a Jinbi project that ended in fraud where the Jinbi team was able to take many personal documents of Bounty participants when participants had to pass KYC to receive tokens.  I agree with the opinions of friends above we should not participate in Bounties with KYC requirements.  Forget about the Bounty with KYC requirements

I still don't know why some bounty hunters are still giving out their details just to get rewards that are less than nothing, it is high time for hunters to learn their lesson. I cannot give out my details for anything, not even now that the rewards of bounty hunting are nothing to write about. Bounty Managers should also stop taking projects that require hunters to do kyc.

Bounty manager BountyDetective lost his reputation because of what happened with ClipX. He should be aware next btime before working with unknown project.
Just Yesterday, he started a one month bounty campaign promoting his service (claiming to be a gift for participants who joined shut down project bounties managed by him) :  🔴[BOUNTY DETECTIVE]🔴 BOUNTY - $5000 WORTH OF BNB REWARD POOL 🔴 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5281562.0)
And with the same mistake to not escrow the pool amount dedicated for the campaign :

I think those who manage these projects should manage the projects with a little caution most kyc projects are scammed i also joined clipx but during the bounty there was no such condition that kyc is mandatory but they change their rules. This is a new strategy to scam them it's better to stay away from such sites they do not reward anyone and close everything when most bounties are over.

I agree with point No. 4
Currently, there are so many bounty managers who only care about themselves and their team, regardless of the safety of their hunters. Therefore doing research first is very important.
View from the easiest such as website views, teams, partners, and white papers

Even how good you are in searching its hard to avoid scam campaign ,mostly now that there are a lot scam project that we have here  . Other problem also is the late announcement of having a KYC ,which they make it mandatory when the campaign is ended already, which is wrong .There are a lot hunters afraid to give thier personal data to a website or project owner  so instead of claiming it ,if the project asked for mandatory kyc they leave and forget about thier payment instead.

I think if that happens then it is our own risk and it can be a risk of the steps chosen, but I have suggestions for bounty campaign participants so they can avoid scam projects so we can give suggestions to secure allocations for the participants. bounty campaign participants first, after that it can be shown that the allocation has been given and payment for the participants will definitely be given so that it will not disappoint the participants.

We both know that only very few bounty managers cares about reputations but one thing is very certain here, such bounty managers will always be respected in this space, I'm presently promoting a bounty project from Hhampuz, I would have easily turn away but this BM has very big reputation on this forum, more than that of bubbalex, I wish we will see more bounty managers like bubbalex and Hhampuz in future.

Yeah, when they're asking only specific personal documents that's definitely suspicious, i never seen any project where just passport is only option for submit KYC. Another things a lot of hunters will never meet this requirement. I following number 3, but we didn’t get enough projects from trusted bounty managers. Even though also mostly reputed BM's cannot managed escrowed campaigns.   

why wait for confirmation of their project terminated? they intended to cheat, so there was clearly no need to expect anything more from a project like that. BM handled too many projects at that time, and we can see, the handling would not be optimal, especially if there were problems like this. communication with the project team clearly did not go smoothly.

Well, the most reliable is the use of escrow when conducting a bounty campaign. Although there will not be a 100% guarantee. The project can refuse tokenization altogether and distribute money to investors.

Bro, i think the clipx team said they already deleted the hunter's KYC data.
Although we don't know for sure they really deleted those data or not, we should confirm with the team again.
It is dangerous to submit our identity docs especially passport indeed, therefore we shouldn't join the campaign that requiring the participants to submit the passport document.

This is a very good advise to each and every one of us knowing that we cannot really eliminate and eridicate this kind of scam/fake bounties we just really need to be wiser and be more intellectual in looking for a legit bounties.

Many where fooled that kingcasino team will return investors fund but till today it's all empty words, and ClipX team said they've get rid of bounty hunters data but how true is this? I don't believe such words, KYC data is big money especially if it's many, I'm happy I never joined any of these bounties because I felt that they aren't good enough.

I agree we should never blindly submit our KYC data to anyone.
The truth is we will never be able to verify that they truly deleted the KYC data or not and, if they didn't ClipX can definitely fetch a good price for those data.

This news was not very surprising to me. The KYC scam is going on for many years and very few have raised any objection to it. It amazes me that people are ready to send the scanned copy of their passports and national ID cards to unknown people, so that they could earn $10 or $20 from the bounties. Given the level of identity theft going on these days, any such step sounds suicidal for me.

It's not a new thing that projects are collecting people's KYC for unclean reasons, even Airdrops are doing it, there is nothing anyone can do about this, ClipX project is no more so learn from your mistakes and find other bounty project to promote, stay away from KYC bounties and Airdrops if you know how important your identity is.

Currently I can easily buy KYC information and documents for only 3 ~ 5 $, so I think the KYC required bounties are not a big deal. Also, in my opinion that the KYC requirement for bounty is unnecessary, there is no reason to crawl crab huntes other than the purpose of taking advantage of it.

It's mainly target those who don't know how important are their personal info. And as you described, KYC information costs 3-5 $ so why not to get thousands of them for free. I prefer encourage bounty managers to get bounty rewards under their controle or in the held of a reputed third part escrow, rather then call for hunters not to join bounties asking for their docs. Simply because the great majority of bounty hunters are newbies with none to little knowledge about what is this all about .

It's a pity for those who participated with clipx bounty campaign. I agree with what you've said that bounty hunters now shouldn't participate any bounty projects unless sit is being escrowed to the bounty manager, because in that way it is surely would give rewards in the long run. It's so sad that many kyc documents were given in that project. We just hope it wouldn't use to any irrelevant or malicious activities.

It's clearly stated that the bounty detective didn't expect this to happen as the team was shutdown its project instantly while there is so many id that has already sent to the clipx platforms.
Idk what will be happening with these ID from the bounty participants but just hope the scammers will not do that for the criminal purpose.

The bounty detective has made a clarification regarding this but I think that's not the best thing that I have seen as the result from this case.

Bounty Hunters should consider more if want take part in KYC mandatory bounties. And pay more attention does the bounty project legit or not. The reason is KYC scaming is not the first incident for bounty participants.
If it has already happened, I think the participants have the right to give a negative tag to the manager As punishment for lead mistakes.

First, I think hunters should already understand the consequences of participating in bounties when there are such rules like "we reserve the right to make any changes" which means you have agreed to the future changes the team will introduce at the end of the campaign (and this can very well be kyc)

Secondly, if a team stop the continuation of their project, how is that the bounty management fault? I think the work a bm is hired for is to manage the marketing aspect of the project which is bounty campaign, whether team decides to continue with project or not should not be the problem or fault of the bm,

Thirdly, you and I know that 90% of alt campaigns don't escrow their campaigns, maybe before making this suggestion, you should take a good look at all the previous and present alts campaign and tell me how many have escrowed their tokens, even the Great alts bounty managed by reputable bm's were not placed on escrow, this has been the modus operandi of many alts campaign and will continue to be so, you should put the blame on the team and not the bm. Between such act has occurred in some previous bounties.

The problem has begin when ClipX bounty announce the KYC mandatory at the end of the campaign.
I think if they announced it on the start of the campaign, there would be less hunters joined the campaign.
To prevent case like this, an agreement or contract should be made between bounty manager and project team regarding KYC before the campaign start.

KYC is indeed a risk if you do that in an unclear project, Clipx is one of the scam projects out there,
my only advice is one, never do KYC on a new project! It's very risky and if you are still doing, then you have to be tough.
I know Clipx is indeed a scammer, because I've been following an airdrop from them and finally they asked to transfer first before get the airdrop.

They asked for KYC in the end of campaign, so those participants can't have other choice. It's either leave the project without a single reward or risk your identity by uploadint the KYC data. If it was at the beginning of the bounty and then people would probably think really hard before joining any campaigns.

So bounty hunter must think clearly before do it, don't just think about the reward but must do research, if you cant make sure it's was legit 100% so better to skip it. In the crypto world, we can take the risk, but in real life that's mean our identity, we should not take a risk

Be careful with your personal data because your personal data is important if later your personal data is held by someone else. I am afraid will be made for evil. to commit fraud or other negative things. and later the one who is accused must be you and of course, the one who is caught is you.