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Just saw this
https://i.ibb.co/VTJMhRP/FB88-E0-F1-378-A-49-E2-BC41-FAB4-DE93678-F.png

I was looking for something and I happened to see both user and the post?
Just only looking by it they’ve been one of the good Gambling site,...
Anyone knows about them?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1153726.0

This topic had its last post in 2015 and the OP (also the owner of luckyflop probably) has sent his application to another sig camp today.
https://archive.is/tjYfc

My guess is, it didn't go well for luckyflop and they are not in the business anymore.

The domain "https://luckyflop.eu" don't respond neither. (tried with a VPN too.)

yeah, as I tried to visit them I think they shutdown long time ago,... I just happened to see them when I was looking on some posts of Carra which is said to be one of the respected managers that time,...

anyways, it might be some issues on the past that they haven’t solved. But it’s a waste actually,...

Managing a casino is a serious business. Most people think it as a passive income where you just set up your money printer and forget but it is nowhere close.

and now there is great competition in this casino market, every month new casinos appear that offer the same games and the same promotions. This year alone, there were many signature campaigns run by casinos that were unable to stay longer than 1 month and now use the strategy of running signature campaign for 1 month and then stop and return months later for the campaign to resume for 1 month. I see this as a sign that the competition in this niche must be very large to the point that casinos are not able to survive. In summary I believe that people who run casinos know that they should be serious because they invest a lot of money, but the problem must be in the fact that they don't do a market research to see how the demand is going and if the market is not saturated.

2015 it's an eternity, another century in the crypto industry. They've certainly closed down before the 2017 wave.

I haven't known a single one who hasn't made  debut after the management of yahoo or hhampuz, perhaps this was handle by othe CMs?  would you give us an example?

You are right mate. Nobody understands that a business needs too much patience and dedication to succeed, and when it is about casino, it is all about money the company has in their hands. I felt very sad seeing this thread as we are obviously discussing someone's failure. @cabalism13, no offense, don't get me wrong for my words but there were many businesses I know of, which were popular in early days but went missing due to funding issues.

well, my perception is different towards the user, Am really amazed for his guts for joining a competitor's campaign despite of having a failed Project, or maybe he was long doing this after that,... it takes a lot of guts IMO, and setting aside the pride that you have to start once again. But i think he doesn't plan to.

I think Blackjack.fun suits the above description. The signature campaign was managed by Sujonali. They initially had like 3 weeks then went off-grid and came back last month with another campaign. They even tried to promote in Games and Rounds but it didn't get much traction.

They shut down their casino in early 2016. Most likely because they couldn't attract enough players to keep their business running and from their latest posts back then, it is obvious that there were too many bugs on their platform.
By googling their name, this is the only relevant result I could find:
https://forum.bitcoingambling.io/threads/has-the-luckyflop-eu-bitcoin-poker-site-shutdown.23/

What if the account changed hands?

End is not a failure, but a new beginning and if he has got the guts to turn his failure into a finding, get up again and move ahead with a new beginning, then nothing else can be better than that. I know that finding a reputed and established business owner working for some other business some day and then we come to know about their circumstances, we have nothing but 👏

Actually that's quite possible too but we cannot really know without an evidence or as long as the (new) owner doesn't do something stupid. (like starting to post in a local board which he didn't post before)

Or even start asking for loans?
Can't they be asked to sign a message with an old address just so to let them prove their ownership of the account (not necessary but it will remove doubts from our minds). Now you will ask that who are we? Consider ourselves as common people.

The account definitely changed hands. Members should keep and eye on it.
The last post before the account when into along period of inactivity was on March 07, 2016. According to BPIP, the account woke up on 12/15/2019 after the password got reset by email, this is a very common sign if the account has changed hands either through being sold or hacked.

https://i.imgur.com/Rc6TSQW.png

After 3 years of Inactivity, the first post was made on the very day the account woke up (December 15, 2019 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5181778.msg53354530#msg53354530)) and posting style has been totally different since then.

Even if a casino service failed back then why would someone come back to post for bounties using the same profile?

Theres no doubt with this matter because we can eventually compare the posting styles and the behavior of such user on just looking up into his profile.
After being inactive for a long time and made out some post.Well this doesnt precisely or automatically considered on changing hands but you can
make presumptions specially if we can see that it do have some status or change password or emails.

About on the gambling site then i havent seen this one which is understandable yet this had been on 2015 which im not still on this forum
but as other mentioned this doesnt able to get some attraction and eventually failed.

Lastly, a gambling site owner wont really just woke up again and tend to join bounties for him to earn pennies.

It is really nowhere close to that if an operator thinks that way he will find himself eaten by the competitor, for them to earn money they need to spend money and a lot of effort, yea there is money to be made for operator but with so many gambling sites vying for the big slice of the market, they are not resting they set up massive promotion and a lot of giveaways to keep the gambling site always in the limelight.

What I really like about that kind of strategy by now is what Roobet is doing they really are spending lot of effort to giveaways and promotion and in return they get noticed, don't know how long they'll come up with it but the longer the better for much exposure.

Was luckyflop really that a good gambling site? 2015? I've never been in this space from that time but I guess 0.08 for a monthly pays isn't that big and in the year 2015 bitcoin's price was really not that high.

Such suspicion is reasonable, because some gambling sites were popular in their era so that they closed sites like Directbet and even Rollin opened an auction for the site, but after they closed the site they no longer had any activity here. So, even if they wake up and then start their activities again here, I think it will be something to look forward to, because maybe they have a new project to develop and not about a different style of posting and it's only natural that suspicions arise.

They may have closed their business or maybe gone bankrupt. No one cares know what happened with them. There are many gambling sites which comes and go. Only the few trusted ones are able to continue their business for long term.

However the admin of the luckyflop  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=393201) is still active and he has made a post to participate in Re: Tower.bet Signature and avatar campaign (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5276603.msg55216888#msg55216888)  8)

You're rude dude. I think there was still some users here that cares and atleast wanted to know what happened as what cabalism13 was asking. It's true that the competition on each gambling sites are tight but I guess it does not mean that the casino mentioned above is a poor one, but it's possible because they've lost their site. But yet, there's other possibilities.

Seems that the owner already lost his business. If you look at the last post of the luckyflop account, he tried to enroll in tower.bet campaign, a new campaign of yahoo. I don't know if he is the original owner or already changed hands.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5276603.msg55216888#msg55216888

I think it does not matter if he applied in any campaign. Someday I could open up my casino and close it later due to any financial problems. Then if i apply in any campaign this does not mean that I changed the hands  ???

Base on my understanding the possible main reasons is they don't earn enough in that gambling websites that's why he decided to close it. It sad but in reality if your business doesn't work or you never earn any you need to close it even you don't like it And find other business that you think will fit for you.

It is not easy to maintain gambling sites, only a few gambling sites can survive for a long time. So there are lots of good gambling sites
that can't survive and have to close the business. One of them is Luckyflop which has been closed for a long time. Especially now that
the competition for gambling sites is very tight, every gambling site must be well promoted, if it wants to attract users to play on their
website. And for promotion costs are also not cheap, must require large capital.

Very few old gambling websites are in use till date, while lot many have got shut for various reasons. In the gambling business to stand long in the market needs big plan and backing. Majority of the gambling site closure will be based on the economic issues while very few shut down for other legal issues. Same as luckyflop one of the gambling site that got closed in recent days is directbet.eu

That's how it goes with the life of the others, some times the one at the top will experience what it means to be in the bottom. Well, what happened here is the user got nothing to do with his account anymore, why not join any existing campaign that has something to do with his hobby or everyday work. in that case, he can share his experience and earn some decent amount at the same time.

True enough. Gambling casinos have a lot, and by a lot I mean A LOT of competition, and if they can't get customers in and make them stay? Closing down is only a matter of time. I'd rather close a gambling casino early if I see that there's no possibility of actually profiting off of it since customers aren't staying. There'd be more instance of the casino actually losing funds by trying to stay alive just to hope that customers would stay. It's either they didn't really plan on staying open for long, or they failed in marketing for the long run and instead actually just spent their time rushing to open their casino. Online casinos are a lot more easier to open than physical ones after all, hence the carelessness of some owners.

I never heard about luckyflop  casino but I think member luckyflop should get some feedback because it is clear that account is probably sold and owner is different.
His email address was also changed recently and maybe this should be examined better more in Reputation.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=393201

agree . no problem to that but it will be questionable at first because you manage to open up a casino business which is costy enough . before you open it up you should be aware that you can lost or be succesful on your business therfor you should prepare a secure funds if ever unfortunate events happened .  you wont become poor as in really poor that you will only join campaigns to earn an income  .  account can also be control by thier representative and not really by the owner of the site so seeing that account apply in other campaign isnt a big deal .

This was when signature campaigns are still paying users BTC0.05 - BTC 0.1 per month, and this was long ago. The luckyflop casino, as I recall it, didn't really gain much traction and has since been closed since early 2016 due to lack of players in their platform. The account may have also changed hands due to it having its email changed and being active again after a long hiatus, see post history on page 23 of the user's post. There had been a surge of gambling platforms on those days and I guess that particular platform just didn't make the cut unfortunately.

Its a possibility that this account is held neither by the owner itself or by its representative but since theres a change of email then possibility that it changed hands which do people on this thread do talk about.When it comes to business then it will really be neither on both if its fails or not but this one really flops and we know that not each site do launch
would really be having that expected or anticipated success.About on the account possession then just let them be as long they do no harm to the forum.

its also possible that its still him. running a casino i guess is easy when you have the ready script, a server worth $25/month and a domain. if he just end up losing it all i guess its time for him to pick up and stand again. if he happen to apply for a campaign like the rest of us, it only means he needs something to start with. i can see good to it than just scamming through a casino he had made.

pandemic is getting worse too, i don't think its unusual anymore. we see celebrities these days are selling ornament plants.  ;D

Business has ups and down,we cannot predict the future but we can stand still in future.
the Said account has change Email from long time from running that gambling site so either that is for security or for changing hands.

But whatever happens still good that he find way to come back in this forum.

either they did not earn or they have internal problem thats why they need to separate ways,many things can happen ourtside our knowledge.

Luckyflop never heard of them, but the signature campaign offer seems to be, too good to be true. Better wait and see on some users update about them in other sections if there are issues.
Surely, there are players who will try gambling their probability percentage and soon enough we'll be able to learn their legitimacy.

he already removed the signature.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1153726.0

nothing wrong if he started it back from the bottom.
also, maybe his account is not a personal account.
it can be a sharing account, owned, and managed by the former Luckyflop team.

Nothing is wrong if the account user started from the bottom after the casino was shutdown but looking at the account activities and the reputation of the account that just sent him merits so he can participate in singature campaign theres a chance that it a change hand account.

I agree into your point as long this account doesnt really show any harm or abuse then theres no point on arguing.When it comes to business then failure is part of it and starting out to the bottom
isnt always a thing to be frowned upon.
Recenty he had posted on a new bounty signature campaign.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5278153.msg55262650#msg55262650
which do tends for him to get interested to join up that one.

If theres some merit abuse then everyone can really check it out but proving out these kind of abuse is hard rather than on seeing directly connected address compared on justifying the suspicion of merit abuse.
Why we cant just move on and let the guy do things on his own?

I really don't think there are still be able to remember a dead project from a long time ago, also if the said project has more issues to be settled (but I doubt it, for thebuser is quite still active these days)

It is totally not the real owner anymore judging from the last post. Besides, it was 5 years ago and the price of Bitcoin during that time was $300 to $500 mostly. They didn't seem to survive in this battlefield of gambling industry. And I don't think that he has a plan to continue the dead project but he had a choice if he wants to start all over again with a new project but that would require a right funding.

Atleast they have paid or provide payment as indicated in their last page of their bounty thread, crypto and gambling may not that popular much in investors yet that did made their website works well or to last longer but if they can offer a much better games now maybe they can have a chance for return as online gambling is too popular now, so they can give it a try, plus they were not tagged red or create problem before so they can start again if they wanted too, same with the campaign manager but he seems not active here anymore.

This is business that sometimes you need to put out because it does not make an income. But if they were just persistent to it then high chance that their gambling platform would be one of the best gambling platform now. It just need patience to work out and if it was being establish then I can sense that would be one of the best gambling platform now.

I have never heard of Luckyflop gambling site, but if it turns out Luckyflop decided to close the business.
There must be a reason, I don't want to speculate. But the possibilities are no longer profitable to maintain.
Because business competition at online casinos is very hard, if they don't promote properly, will definitely
lose to compete with other online casinos.

I never heard about this gambling site also. I am wondering why did the owner of this site decided to shut their own site if it is famous and profitable? Are they experienced having a hard to on competing with the other gambling sites? Or is there any other reason? I am still puzzled. Is there anyone here who can answer my questions?

Are you aware on the date of the last post that had been made? Be careful on such behavior because this is really some violation of forum rules which bumping out old threads that had been inactive for a while even though  this one is just almost 2 months since the last reply so it isnt really that necessary to bump it up.About on the site, well its already down and its pretty obvious that
this site didnt really get any players and decide not to continue and yet their forum account had been tagged out negative yet its a scam casino and its ownership had changed.

you are registered on this forum earlier than that sites campaign have been posted . where are you that time , arent you checking the service section and the gambling section before .

 the year was 2015 but they can be registered earlier than that but year 2015 was still an early time for cryptos and crypto gambling so the competition that time are not heavy as today but anything can happen on any business , you can get bankrupt if you dont know to handle it properly .

Neither I it's because the site existed in 2015, I do not know anything about Cryptocurrency that time and many if us here too, I guess there are a lot of popular and not popular gambling sites that are not operating now for one reason to another, the gambling industry is one of the hardest industry to survive.

What's with that gambling site, gambling site just come and go and only those who can keep up stays, I am not yet active in the gambling discussion when the site was up, back then the most attractive and probably profitable are the crowdfunding sections, but gambling sites although one of the emerging market in the Cryptocurrency is a very stiff business, there are a lot of competition and every gambling sites wants a huge piece of the pie.

Maybe it is closed this year due to some reason maybe because of pandemic? but I really don't know. They run for 5years, and it is already long, I wonder why they close, and how about the fund of the gamblers? did they get it or not? who knows right, there are some better site to gamble, OP can find some in ann thread .

according to khaled0111 from the link he provided. the website has been closed since early 2016.



just like what khaled0111 said the most probable reason was there were not enough gamblers playing on their website and can't get enough funds to continue running the gambling site. as for the funds of the gamblers. according to the last post on their ANN thread. the shutdown was sudden and no notice was given to the players so it is most likely that gamblers on their website lost their funds when they suddenly shut down.