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I started using zefinex.com,And it just says to me "Protection from bots, Your new account is temporarily restricted in withdrawal, deposit 0.12 btc so your account will be activated"
something like that.
now I wanna know if its a scam or is it legit site?
thank you

Do not deposit anything. It's scam.
I have not heard about this website, never used them but from the experience it is clear that this is a scam. When a site ask you to deposit money first to be able to withdraw, it surely is fishy. No legit business will ask you such thing.

I wonder how you can know this platform because this sites created just 2 days ago. If you looking for trusted and popular centralized exchanges you can choose Binance, Kucoin or Coinbase. You won't be asked to deposit xxx amount like this scam exchanges.

someone send me a message that I won and I received 0.41 BTC on that site.
I sign up and then on the balance I do see 0.41 BTC.
I know it stupid to believe this
but I had 0.1% of hope that I might, maybe ,somehow got free money and the site looks so legit and on .com
so I had to check before I might lose my "free BTC".

Won on what? Contest? Giveaway/raffle? The thing is you even didn't ever sign up and knew about the site, how the ways you able to win? It does not make a sense. Obviously a scam attempt, if you follow that instruction you just ended up losing your money.

Anyway, from where you got the messages? Telegram or email?

Don't be hooked on that. It''s just a typical way of some fraudsters. Leading their victims to deposit large amount(if they are really desperate) of money on their site, you'll just lose your money, you are hoping to gain money right? Next time, don't even bother registering on their website. Report the site if you have time.

The websites seem to be legit when you visit it because the design of the websites seems to be good looking but still.


Having a website that is 2days old is always sketchy, no one is going to trust a website because it doesn't have the trust one the users and investors yet.

In my opinion, there is a high chance that the website is a scam, for me, I will not take the risk of investing in this kind of website because there are so many options exchanges in the market that are available that is trusted than this websites.

The method of depositing first to activate your account already suspicious, looks like a classic way of scam websites.

Don't be deceived. A site being on .com doesn't prove it to be legit or not. After all, BTT (this site we're on) is on .org, and not .com yet it's as legit as it can be. The .com thing is an old trick of scammers. Flee, bro. BTW, always use coinmarketcap or coingecko to access any exchange you want to make use of to ascertain level of authenticity.

More such websites are found commonly, all that required is the patience to go through and find the real working of the website. When I'm new to cryptocurrency, without any research just used to invest on multiplier schemes/softwares that are developed to scam the people. Later on learned the truth about cryptocurrencies and the increased number of scams getting promoted in the name of cryptocurrencies. Based on my understanding the mentioned website is a pure scam.

It's my first time hearing this site..  don't believe it, this site was just created.  be careful in the present, don't easily believe the lure like this.  This dirty method does not only happen 1 or 2 times in crypto space..

Thank you guys
I really appreciate your help 3>
It really do good when the world have people like you guys to help prevent a scam and things like that.
thanks again. ;)

This question is very technical because know one knows better investment sites,but i will like to advice you not to invest there because it might be scam. Before we adventure into investment websites we have to enquire very well because scammers have no conscience to any one.

Sounds like a scam, no? That strategy always came from untrusted website/party who wants to fool users, unless you're one of them, kidding.

Avoid such site that asks payment before you can do something on your account. You can use other reputed exchange such binance, kucoin, etc. if your only concern is trading.

Any person/website/service which tells you to deposit before you are allowed to withdraw is a scam, 100% of the time.

This particular scam is a cookie-cutter website which crops up repeatedly with a new name, but the exact same content and scam attempt. For example:

https://10altcoins.com/
https://tradecoins24.com/
http://www.viral.kz/
https://coinvus.com/

Since you say you have registered an account on this scam site, if you have reused a password which you use anywhere else (especially your email account), then I would thoroughly recommend changing it immediately since it is now in the hands of scammers.

It's safe just to use a popular or trusted exchanger than this one that is just made 2 days ago basically. The websites are obviously a scam and no need to risk your funds if you could just use a better website like Binance, Coibase at other more popular exchanges. They are always trying to scam people in the community so something like this is not new already investing in an exchange like this? I just cant see any benefit about it.

It's a form of scam that has been here for ages. It requires common sense sometimes. Who on this earth is going to randomly send you a telegram message offering you free BTC worth over $4K?

Check this thread by Royse777 List of (un)known methods scammers user to scam users with honorable mention (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5171618.0)

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An exchange appearing on coingecko or especially coinmarketcap does not guarantee that it's legit. Many scam and volume faking exchanges are still listed on coinmarketcap

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More of the scam exchanges with similar design
- https://bitvux.com/
- https://bitwave.ltd/
- https://www.tiqex.com/
- https://bitextrum.com/
- http://144.76.183.47/
- https://cryptonetus.com/
- https://coinmarketc.com/
- https://fexcoins.com/
- https://coinetus.com/
- https://vuxbit.com/
- https://coinax24.com/

I cant really blame myself on why sometimes i do think that these people do end up on using these unknown or shady platforms from nowhere.Do they able to make some google search or just totally get or read
it from someone online as suggestions?

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This is just a common scam that had been known in the past on anything that do ask out for some payments or deposits before you do able to have again access into your account is a big SCAM!
Its just really an alibi for them to fool out people.

Thx for your advice, that shows it all...we were sceptical as we won and should first deposit 0.014 BTC (classic Nigerian Prince scam), but the design and TOS, Adress etc, looks really good...damn i really could use that 0.41 BTC ^^'

Both of you, do not post direct links to these scammers. Remove https: and www in front of the domain. That way we will all understand the message and your good intentions will not be able to have a negative effect. this is how it looks like a promotion of these websites, linking to the site such as Bitcointalk can positively affect the future authority of websites.
I guess we will not help them in their work.

I doubt such websites ever plan to have increased their domain authority at all. What they do is registering domain every now and then and try to get one or two noobs with that domain and trap them. They never use one domain more than couple of times I think as using couple of times would mark their website as fake.

You should run from this website if you have not done so. 0.12btc is a huge amount of money and for them to have requested for this in confidence it means many people have been dumped.

If there's a word above the link given well it cannot mislead and give a positive to the given link of scam site beside it will give an accurate information on which site we need to avoid and for sure people will find the information relevant and since there's a discussion about those scams here for sure people will notice that.


They plan to run in short period of time since this classic tactics has been used and they preceded their depositor before they take there money out on their scam platform, This is their major plan to take a huge money and create a another site to repeat the act again.

Any site asking you to deposit before activating something is 100% scam, so better turn down the thoughts upon depositing at them since after you deposit your money they will never give it back to you. This has been used for many scam sites around and believe us if you push this and deposit you will be left empty handed.


0.12 is huge amount to lose so better not to do so since this scammers are aggressive to get a big money for quick actions.

Can you please elaborate on how sharing links of scam websites can have a negative effect or is some sort of promotion? Maybe I am missing something.
I shared the links to make members aware of all the similar scam exchanges. Anyone who googles about any of those links will end up seeing this thread in the search results and will be able to read the warnings in the thread which I think is something good and not negative as you stated.

He had already stopped going to that scam website if you have read his last post on this thread.


It's still a mystery how these people are ending going to a very unknown website and turns out to be a scam website service when they're already about to withdraw on them. I think there's something to do with google SEO and ads when they search for keywords "bitcoin", "invest".

Not all people know about this site have deep knowledge about those scam site since there are newbies still digesting the information's given here, also we shouldn't be surprise for this incident since referral is the main reason on why they are guys still getting scam by the hype since those people who always promotes hyip are always showing a positive results and for sure newbies get interested since they want to earn a decent money for following the guy who referred him the platform.

"Backlinks" is still one of the strongest factors for website positioning. When someone posts a clickable link on the website with high domain authority, it positively affects his ranking in search engine.
For example, search engines bots and crawlers will connect subject "Someone heard or know about this bitcoin website" and links in the topic, but there is no possibility to review the complete discussion and decide whether it is a scam. the result is all of the linked websites in this topic can be related to "bitcoin website" in a future search.
this can help in finding such sites when someone searches using the phrase "bitcoin website investment". The first result will not lead to this topic, then very possibly to some of the fraudulent sites. I guess everyone knows that most clicks go to the first few results.
one link doesn't mean much, but it is still a help. as far as I have noticed, all fraudsters of this kind do not pay much attention to SEO, it all comes down to sharing across social networks and various community groups.

Also, I guess you know that very few users here read the complete conversation on the forum, sometimes not even the previous post. Much more likely that someone will click that link, and how they have a very solid design, there is a big possibility that they will still believe them, rather than you who wanted to warn them. Even if they need to do more action (copy/paste link), it affects the slowdown all action or giving up for laziness, which in turn affects a smaller number of potential victims. this is more based on human psychology.

in both cases, we are talking about users who are at the beginner level or a little more. Regarding, the average user who does not use advanced searches. in my estimation, there are at least 80% of all internet users.

In the end, negative advertising is advertising after all.
I am just saying, adding scammers websites links in code tag is enough.

I've forgotten about the referral. Yes, the roots and shares could also be the reason why those scam sites are spreading quickly even if it's just recently made. The new investors wouldn't take time to research if it's legit or not, they're blinded by the number it shows.

The mindset of quick money is still there and it's hard to be changed and replaced if the investor just got in to the boat of cryptos. Thanks for bringing up about the referral, I've forgot to think about it which can be the caused of spread by innocent new investors to another innocent.